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JerrySeinfeld
08-21-2015, 06:38 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13459486/2015-summer-forecast-most-valuable-player

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

305Baller
08-21-2015, 06:40 PM
LeBron is still the best player in the game.

LoneyROY7
08-21-2015, 06:41 PM
He won't win it.

JerrySeinfeld
08-21-2015, 06:41 PM
LeBron is still the best player in the game.

Did anyone ever find out what his secret motivation to win the Finals was?

Marchesk
08-21-2015, 06:42 PM
Curry and Durant still around last I checked. So are Davis, Harden and Westbrook.

GIF REACTION
08-21-2015, 06:43 PM
Top 5 MVP voting for 2015-2016
1. Lebron
2. Kev D
3. Steph Curry
4. J Hard
5. Demarcus Cousins the best center in the league

305Baller
08-21-2015, 06:43 PM
Did anyone ever find out what his secret motivation to win the Finals was?

I would also like to know.

JerrySeinfeld
08-21-2015, 06:46 PM
I would also like to know...

While the coughing and joking by Wade and James annoyed Nowitzki, he said it wouldn't influence his demeanor during Game 6.

"It's over to me," Nowitzki said. "It's not going to add anything extra to me. This is the NBA Finals. If you need extra motivation, you have a problem."

GIF REACTION
08-21-2015, 06:46 PM
Just think about how epic it would be if Lebron won another MVP

That's 5 Big ones!

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 06:47 PM
just another reason why the MVP is a joke, the season hasn't even started yet and the people who vote for it already have their favorites :oldlol: :oldlol:

talk about being biased, this dude gets so much love from the media who just happen to be the people voting for the award

305Baller
08-21-2015, 06:49 PM
just another reason why the MVP is a joke, the season hasn't even started yet and the people who vote for it already have their favorites :oldlol: :oldlol:

It's just early speculation for fun. Not a big deal.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-21-2015, 06:50 PM
This dude's marketing campaign is unreal

http://rs1096.pbsrc.com/albums/g322/Sugarsandrainbows/GIFs/e6u4ok.gif~c200

ShawkFactory
08-21-2015, 06:50 PM
Is this news? Seems logical that at worst a top 2 player in the game on a loaded team would be an MVP favorite

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 06:51 PM
It's just early speculation for fun. Not a big deal.

except that the people speculating are the people who are also voting for the award.. they are going into the season with a biased opinion.. ESPN drives the entire MVP media campaign.. so many MVP voters work at ESPN..:confusedshrug:

how does the reigning MVP come in at #5 after leading his team to a championship.. like what in the actual fucc.. :oldlol:

GIF REACTION
08-21-2015, 06:53 PM
This will be Lebron's strongest, most well rounded team yet. He can easily get 60 wins, 1st seed, and probably put up something along the lines of 26/8/8 on 50%

Trollsmasher
08-21-2015, 06:53 PM
seems logical - if things go as expected, Cavs are primed for 62-64, maybe even 66 wins... even if he plays less minutes, it could still be enough

JerrySeinfeld
08-21-2015, 06:55 PM
This dude's marketing campaign is unreal

http://rs1096.pbsrc.com/albums/g322/Sugarsandrainbows/GIFs/e6u4ok.gif~c200

yup. from the media using the return to cleveland to paint him as a hero, to him shooting sub 40% in the finals while playing like shit in crunchtime and getting handed another Finals L and getting praised as if he's MJ, the media's love and affection for LeBron will never cease to amaze me.

Like last year, when over 90% of basketball analysts pick LeBron as the MVP favorite and he's not even one of the top 3 players during the year, it's clear that the media is in bed with Bronny Bron

JerrySeinfeld
08-21-2015, 07:04 PM
seems logical

I mean kinda, but just because he's the only MVP candidate not in the Western Conference doesn't mean he's the favorite.

Do you really see LeBron having an MVP type of regular season again? With how much we've been hearing these past 2 years about how it's crucial that he saves himself during the regular season and all of that.

raprap
08-21-2015, 07:16 PM
It must suck to hate a guy much better at you in every facet of life. #LeBronMVP2016 :applause:

JT123
08-21-2015, 07:19 PM
For someone who thinks ESPN is so full of shit OP seems to spend a lot of time on their website. :lol
Keep making them boys rich Simon. :cheers:

Rocketswin2013
08-21-2015, 07:20 PM
Davis will be the NBA's best player next year and possibly league MVP.

kennethgriffin
08-21-2015, 07:21 PM
LeBron is still the best player in the game.


a) he didnt have the best stats

b) he didnt have the best PER

c) he didnt win mvp

d) he didnt have the top record

e) he didnt win the title

f) he didnt win finals mvp

g) he didnt win the scoring title

h) he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals



yet lebron fans will tell you that beyond a shadow of a doubt lebron james is the best player in the nba



funny... i remember year after year lebron fans would always say one of the fallowing






a) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best stats

b) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best PER

c) kobes not the best because he didnt win mvp

d) kobes not the best because he didnt have the top record

e) kobes not the best because he didnt win the title

f) kobes not the best because he didnt win finals mvp

g) kobes not the best because he didnt win the scoring title

h) kobes not the best because he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) kobes not the best because he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals





but when lebron does any of these things. its the reason hes the best


when kobe does any of these things. it doesnt matter


when both dont do either of these things .... lebrons the best anyway.






these f*cking f*ggots


:lol

stalkerforlife
08-21-2015, 07:21 PM
Durant.
Harden.
Curry.
Davis.


















































Bran

stalkerforlife
08-21-2015, 07:22 PM
a) he didnt have the best stats

b) he didnt have the best PER

c) he didnt win mvp

d) he didnt have the top record

e) he didnt win the title

f) he didnt win finals mvp

g) he didnt win the scoring title

h) he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals



yet lebron fans will tell you that beyond a shadow of a doubt lebron james is the best player in the nba



funny... i remember year after year lebron fans would always say one of the fallowing






a) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best stats

b) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best PER

c) kobes not the best because he didnt win mvp

d) kobes not the best because he didnt have the top record

e) kobes not the best because he didnt win the title

f) kobes not the best because he didnt win finals mvp

g) kobes not the best because he didnt win the scoring title

h) kobes not the best because he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) kobes not the best because he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals





but when lebron does any of these things. its the reason hes the best


when kobe does any of these things. it doesnt matter


when both dont do either of these things .... lebrons the best anyway.






these f*cking f*ggots


:lol

That ETHER will obliterate souls.

And the full denial will absolutely kill them for a lifetime.

:applause:

k0kakw0rld
08-21-2015, 07:23 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13459486/2015-summer-forecast-most-valuable-player

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Well he is still the best player in the league. Outshined the MVP of the league in the finals as well.

Akrazotile
08-21-2015, 07:25 PM
If youre playing the odds, you have to pick Lebron if for no other reason than his history of being nearly impervious to injury. He sat out a couple weeks last year with a supposed injury, but I think that was more from the emotional fatigue/exhaustion of the huge whirlwind around his return. Other than that, the dude NEVER goes on the DL.

Curry is one ankle twist away from missing months. Durant is coming off injury. You could even argue guys like Harden and Davis are statistically DUE for an injury.

But not Lebron. He is too BIG. He has the right kind of size. Hes an alpha where it counts, and thats what keeps him on his feet :pimp:

Rose'sACL
08-21-2015, 07:27 PM
except that the people speculating are the people who are also voting for the award.. they are going into the season with a biased opinion.. ESPN drives the entire MVP media campaign.. so many MVP voters work at ESPN..:confusedshrug:

how does the reigning MVP come in at #5 after leading his team to a championship.. like what in the actual fucc.. :oldlol:
tell me again, why should anyone place curry in top 3 with kd, lebron and davis most probably healthy going into the season?
Go and check votes for mvp last season. did lebron win because he was supposed to according to these guys? most of these guys voted for curry or harden so why are you so angry?

GIF REACTION
08-21-2015, 07:27 PM
If youre playing the odds, you have to pick Lebron if for no other reason than his history of being nearly impervious to injury. He sat out a couple weeks last year with a supposed injury, but I think that was more from the emotional fatigue/exhaustion of the huge whirlwind around his return. Other than that, the dude NEVER goes on the DL.

Curry is one ankle twist away from missing months. Durant is coming off injury. You could even argue guys like Harden and Davis are statistically DUE for an injury.

But not Lebron. He is too BIG. He has the right kind of size. Hes an alpha where it counts, and thats what keeps him on his feet :pimp:
Agreed!

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 07:34 PM
tell me again, why should anyone place curry in top 3 with kd, lebron and davis most probably healthy going into the season?
Go and check votes for mvp last season. did lebron win because he was supposed to according to these guys? most of these guys voted for curry or harden so why are you so angry?

Best player on the team with the best record in the league coming off an MVP and NBA championship..

but I guess the criteria has changed again this year.. :oldlol: :oldlol:


KD barely played last year and what exactly has Davis done to be ranked ahead of Curry.. does he get pity points for allowing Curry to drain game winning shots in his grill..

what have they done to be ranked ahead of Curry..

kennethgriffin
08-21-2015, 07:39 PM
westbrook, harden or anthony davis will win mvp this year

Rose'sACL
08-21-2015, 07:39 PM
Best player on the team with the best record in the league coming off an MVP and NBA championship..

but I guess the criteria has changed again this year.. :oldlol: :oldlol:
how has criteria changed when criteria is not even filled yet?
cavs record after lebron's rest and trades was right there with warriors, kd is back and pelicans might win 50 games. you also have to remember that spurs got stronger and might be number 1 seed by end of the season.


According to you, no website that has writers who vote for mvp should be allowed to have season forecast about mvp, dpoy, roy etc.

Magic 32
08-21-2015, 07:42 PM
Still have to play a western conference team at some point.

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 07:49 PM
how has criteria changed when criteria is not even filled yet?
cavs record after lebron's rest and trades was right there with warriors, kd is back and pelicans might win 50 games. you also have to remember that spurs got stronger and might be number 1 seed by end of the season.


According to you, no website that has writers who vote for mvp should be allowed to have season forecast about mvp, dpoy, roy etc.

ok cool but Curry didn't need a mid season vacation to lead his team to the best record in the league :confusedshrug:

how is the criteria not even filled yet.. shouldn't the MVP have a criteria that doesn't change season by season.. :confusedshrug:

Pelicans possibly winning 50 games.. how does that put him over a guy who led his team to 67 wins, won the MVP and won the championship.. all of those things actually happened too, no "ifs" or "might" LOL

how are any of the arguments you just gave for either guy supposed to put them above the reining MVP/NBA champion playing on a 67 win team from last year..

when half of the MVP voters work for ESPN they shouldn't be already trying to create the narrative to favor either player.. literally what are they basing this off of.. what they except each player to do..

that is confirmation bias.. they should wait for the season to begin and games to have been played and then make predictions based off what they've actually seen transpire on court for that year..

Rose'sACL
08-21-2015, 07:58 PM
ok cool but Curry didn't need a mid season vacation to lead his team to the best record in the league :confusedshrug:

how is the criteria not even filled yet.. shouldn't the MVP have a criteria that doesn't change season by season.. :confusedshrug:

Pelicans possibly winning 50 games.. how does that put him over a guy who led his team to 67 wins, won the MVP and won the championship.. all of those things actually happened too, no "ifs" or "might" LOL

how are any of the arguments you just gave for either guy supposed to put them above the reining MVP/NBA champion playing on a 67 win team from last year..

when half of the MVP voters work for ESPN they shouldn't be already trying to create the narrative to favor either player.. literally what are they basing this off of.. what they except each player to do..

that is confirmation bias.. they should wait for the season to begin and games to have been played and then make predictions based off what they've actually seen transpire on court for that year..
why should it?
don't you think that lebron even with his lower that usual stats would have won if cavs had won 62+ games?
curry wouldn't have won if durant was healthy even if thunder won fewer games than warriors.
All these espn "experts" are expecting thunder, pelicans and cavs to win a lot more games and at least in this case i can't say that they are wrong. go and put a poll up asking who would win mvp next season and durant, lebron and davis will be number 1, 2 and 3.

Akrazotile
08-21-2015, 08:09 PM
Still have to play a western conference team at some point.


Luckily for Kobe it wont be his team. Wouldnt wanna have to see him shoot for another hour after the game at this age to distract the media from the egg he laid. Dude needs to kee his legs fresh for all 10 games he'll be playin this year :oldlol:

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 08:10 PM
why should it?


are you seriously asking why the MVP should have a consistent criteria..

Akrazotile
08-21-2015, 08:11 PM
ok cool but Curry didn't need a mid season vacation to lead his team to the best record in the league :confusedshrug:

how is the criteria not even filled yet.. shouldn't the MVP have a criteria that doesn't change season by season.. :confusedshrug:

Pelicans possibly winning 50 games.. how does that put him over a guy who led his team to 67 wins, won the MVP and won the championship.. all of those things actually happened too, no "ifs" or "might" LOL

how are any of the arguments you just gave for either guy supposed to put them above the reining MVP/NBA champion playing on a 67 win team from last year..

when half of the MVP voters work for ESPN they shouldn't be already trying to create the narrative to favor either player.. literally what are they basing this off of.. what they except each player to do..

that is confirmation bias.. they should wait for the season to begin and games to have been played and then make predictions based off what they've actually seen transpire on court for that year..


Kobe stans of all people should be thanking GOD espn votes on a narrative. Otherwise how would Kobrick ever have gotten his 1 lifetime achievement MVP??

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 08:11 PM
don't you think that lebron even with his lower that usual stats would have won if cavs had won 62+ games? I don't know I don't go off fuccing hypotheticals when determining who should be MVP
curry wouldn't have won if durant was healthy even if thunder won fewer games than warriors. again another hypothetical this time just in your opinion
.

..

Smoke117
08-21-2015, 08:12 PM
just another reason why the MVP is a joke, the season hasn't even started yet and the people who vote for it already have their favorites :oldlol: :oldlol:

talk about being biased, this dude gets so much love from the media who just happen to be the people voting for the award

So bitter because Kobe was rarely up for any serious MVP consideration and the one he did get was gifted. Stay mad.

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 08:14 PM
So bitter because Kobe was rarely up for any serious MVP consideration and the one he did get was gifted. Stay mad.

yeah the guy who won less games with more All stars on his team should have definitely got it over Kobe that year..

and this other guy cemented that fact in the playoffs where he lost in 7 to the team that Kobe dismantled in 5 games..

JT123
08-21-2015, 08:17 PM
Luckily for Kobe it wont be his team. Wouldnt wanna have to see him shoot for another hour after the game at this age to distract the media from the egg he laid. Dude needs to kee his legs fresh for all 10 games he'll be playin this year :oldlol:
:roll:

blablabla
08-21-2015, 08:32 PM
except that the people speculating are the people who are also voting for the award.. they are going into the season with a biased opinion.. ESPN drives the entire MVP media campaign.. so many MVP voters work at ESPN..:confusedshrug:

how does the reigning MVP come in at #5 after leading his team to a championship.. like what in the actual fucc.. :oldlol:
It actually makes perfect sense if we look at the MVP criteria. Its based on wins, performance and subjective criteria like marketability, the sensation of someone new stepping up or someone improving considerably. Voters fatigue plays a part too. Now LeBron being first now makes perfect sense, as the Cavs are expected to tear thru a once again weak east, LeBron putting up MVP like numbers was never a huge problem so that part is irrelevant for him. He is also in my opinion and i think many others will share that opinion the best player in the league, so someone like James Harden winning it over him if they have a similar record is unlikely as we all know that James is the better basketball player. He is also by far the most marketable guy in the League and with the Cavs improving from 50 odd wins to around 65 which many are expecting there is going to be that sensation of improvement which is necessary. Now with Steph being 5th its just the fact that no one is expecting him and the Warriors to improve considerably, as it is damn near impossible, also he is not a transcendental talent like Bron or KD and can you really justify giving him the MVP if he plays a similar or slightly worse season than last year which is to be expected. KD at 4 is of course because of injury concerns otherwise he'd be at 1 or 2, Westbrook who i am surprised didn't get any votes here also plays a part if he can continue his production from last year. So i really don't see any problem or media propaganda with this very reasonable list.

guy
08-21-2015, 08:36 PM
except that the people speculating are the people who are also voting for the award.. they are going into the season with a biased opinion.. ESPN drives the entire MVP media campaign.. so many MVP voters work at ESPN..:confusedshrug:

how does the reigning MVP come in at #5 after leading his team to a championship.. like what in the actual fucc.. :oldlol:

You're acting like the media making MVP predictions before the season is a fairly recent thing. That's been going on for at least 20 years.

Pretty sure Lebron was ranked higher than Steph last season and Steph wasn't ranked that high in general going into the season as far as MVP predictions go. But Steph still won. Not sure what the problem is. I'd probably be considered a Lebron hater, but I can at least admit that he was clearly the logical choice for MVP in the seasons he won. The only argument might've been Durant in 2012.

Megabox!
08-21-2015, 08:38 PM
after leading his team to a championship.
Lol

GrapeApe
08-21-2015, 08:45 PM
At Lebron's age and with his mileage, I don't see him winning any more MVP's. That's not to say he isn't capable, but he's reached the point in his career where he knows he needs to preserve himself to some degree during the regular season. I think he's all about winning titles at this point.

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 08:47 PM
It actually makes perfect sense if we look at the MVP criteria. Its based on wins, performance and subjective criteria like marketability, the sensation of someone new stepping up or someone improving considerably. Voters fatigue plays a part too. Now LeBron being first now makes perfect sense, as the Cavs are expected to tear thru a once again weak east, LeBron putting up MVP like numbers was never a huge problem so that part is irrelevant for him. He is also in my opinion and i think many others will share that opinion the best player in the league, so someone like James Harden winning it over him if they have a similar record is unlikely as we all know that James is the better basketball player. He is also by far the most marketable guy in the League and with the Cavs improving from 50 odd wins to around 65 which many are expecting there is going to be that sensation of improvement which is necessary. Now with Steph being 5th its just the fact that no one is expecting him and the Warriors to improve considerably, as it is damn near impossible, also he is not a transcendental talent like Bron or KD and can you really justify giving him the MVP if he plays a similar or slightly worse season than last year which is to be expected. KD at 4 is of course because of injury concerns otherwise he'd be at 1 or 2, Westbrook who i am surprised didn't get any votes here also plays a part if he can continue his production from last year. So i really don't see any problem or media propaganda with this very reasonable list.

the bolded is just ridiculous..

marketability and being a "transcendental player" shouldn't matter when picking the best player for the season..

If Curry wins another title while continuing the play a style of basketball that is changing the way teams draft players and coaches game-plan offense how would he not be considered a transcendental player..

again MVP voters are going into a season where they expect something to happen and they are already crafting a narrative to follow as they did last year, and even a 2 week mini vacation during the worst year he's had statistically in like 6 years didn't stop the MVP talk..

confirmation bias plays a huge role in this unfortunately..

and there isn't any criteria for MVP, they just make that shit up as the season goes.. the MVP history is littered with inconsistencies going all the way back when guys like Kareem were winning an MVP with a losing record after being healthy all year..

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 08:53 PM
You're acting like the media making MVP predictions before the season is a fairly recent thing. That's been going on for at least 20 years.

Pretty sure Lebron was ranked higher than Steph last season and Steph wasn't ranked that high in general going into the season as far as MVP predictions go. But Steph still won. Not sure what the problem is. I'd probably be considered a Lebron hater, but I can at least admit that he was clearly the logical choice for MVP in the seasons he won. The only argument might've been Durant in 2012.

so what that doesn't make it right, the MVP voting criteria has been fucced up for years :confusedshrug:

and i was saying this same thing last year when the media was crafting the "coming home" narrative and labeling bran as the MVP favorite and he still finished in 3rd place even though he took 2 weeks off in the middle of the season and statistically wasn't as good as he had been for the previous 4 years

it'd be totally different if this was predictions from a company that didn't have like 60% of the MVP voters on the pay roll..

and as with previous years, I don't see how the guy who won MVP while leading his team to a title isn't an absolute favorite to win the MVP again just based off the fact that he's still playing on the same team, and is only getting better at his current age..

guy
08-21-2015, 08:59 PM
so what that doesn't make it right, the MVP voting criteria has been fucced up for years :confusedshrug:

and i was saying this same thing last year when the media was crafting the "coming home" narrative and labeling bran as the MVP favorite and he still finished in 3rd place even though he took 2 weeks off in the middle of the season and statistically wasn't as good as he had been for the previous 4 years

it'd be totally different if this was predictions from a company that didn't have like 60% of the MVP voters on the pay roll..





Right, he was third. Seems about right. My point is despite the narrative and their predictions, they seem to still get it right. Doesn't sound like some conspiracy like you're making it out to be.

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 09:02 PM
I'm still wondering how The Disel got MVP votes taken away because "he plays with Kobe" while these days the best player on super teams don't have that held against them..

The big catcus consistently finished behind Duncan and Jason Kidd in MVP voting during what some on ish claim he was the "MDE" mainly because he played with another really good to great player.. he wouldn't have that held against him these days..

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 09:07 PM
Right, he was third. Seems about right. My point is despite the narrative and their predictions, they seem to still get it right. Doesn't sound like some conspiracy like you're making it out to be.

i'm not screaming conspiracy, i'm just saying that

by doing this the voters open themselves to fall to confirmation bias..

and the MVP criteria changes year to year which really shouldn't be the case..

that's all

Rose'sACL
08-21-2015, 09:07 PM
I'm still wondering how The Disel got MVP votes taken away because "he plays with Kobe" while these days the best player on super teams don't have that held against them..

The big catcus consistently finished behind Duncan and Jason Kidd in MVP voting during what some on ish claim he was the "MDE" mainly because he played with another really good to great player.. he wouldn't have that held against him these days..
only one year in which shaq deserved the mvp but didn't get it: 2000-01 season.

guy
08-21-2015, 09:20 PM
i'm not screaming conspiracy, i'm just saying that

by doing this the voters open themselves to fall to confirmation bias..

and the MVP criteria changes year to year which really shouldn't be the case..

that's all

Eh, it's usually a combination of wins, stats, quality of teammates, games played. That's been pretty consistent through at least the last 30 years. Based on that criteria they usually get it right. Of course they aren't perfect. Confirmation bias is only an issue if they don't get it right mostly. I've never heard of a situation where a guy who was the favorite going into the season but clearly didn't end up deserving it still won it.

guy
08-21-2015, 09:29 PM
only one year in which shaq deserved the mvp but didn't get it: 2000-01 season.

Maybe 05 as well. But yes, the big reason he didn't win more is cause he usually missed too many games.

Hey Yo
08-21-2015, 09:31 PM
ok cool but Curry didn't need a mid season vacation to lead his team to the best record in the league :confusedshrug:

how is the criteria not even filled yet.. shouldn't the MVP have a criteria that doesn't change season by season.. :confusedshrug:

Pelicans possibly winning 50 games.. how does that put him over a guy who led his team to 67 wins, won the MVP and won the championship.. all of those things actually happened too, no "ifs" or "might" LOL

how are any of the arguments you just gave for either guy supposed to put them above the reining MVP/NBA champion playing on a 67 win team from last year..

when half of the MVP voters work for ESPN they shouldn't be already trying to create the narrative to favor either player.. literally what are they basing this off of.. what they except each player to do..

that is confirmation bias.. they should wait for the season to begin and games to have been played and then make predictions based off what they've actually seen transpire on court for that year..
Yet Curry did sit out twenty 4th quarters during the regular season and without looking it up, I'm guessing they went 20-0 in those games.

Could AD or LeBron sit out that many 4th quarters during the reg. season and still collect W's?

JT123
08-21-2015, 09:36 PM
Yet Curry did sit out twenty 4th quarters during the regular season and without looking it up, I'm guessing they went 20-0 in those games.

Could AD or LeBron sit out that many 4th quarters during the reg. season and still collect W's?
ether

I<3NBA
08-21-2015, 09:41 PM
I'm pulling for AD to win it. if the Pels make playoffs and get a seeding higher than 5, i think he'll be a lock.

TheMarkMadsen
08-21-2015, 09:42 PM
Yet Curry did sit out twenty 4th quarters during the regular season and without looking it up, I'm guessing they went 20-0 in those games.

Could AD or LeBron sit out that many 4th quarters during the reg. season and still collect W's?

So Curry shouldn't be rewarded for destroying teams so badly through 3 quarters to the point where it's a blow out and the starters are no longer needed..

That's uh, solid logic..

305Baller
08-21-2015, 10:00 PM
a) he didnt have the best stats

b) he didnt have the best PER

c) he didnt win mvp

d) he didnt have the top record

e) he didnt win the title

f) he didnt win finals mvp

g) he didnt win the scoring title

h) he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals



yet lebron fans will tell you that beyond a shadow of a doubt lebron james is the best player in the nba



funny... i remember year after year lebron fans would always say one of the fallowing






a) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best stats

b) kobes not the best because he doesnt have the best PER

c) kobes not the best because he didnt win mvp

d) kobes not the best because he didnt have the top record

e) kobes not the best because he didnt win the title

f) kobes not the best because he didnt win finals mvp

g) kobes not the best because he didnt win the scoring title

h) kobes not the best because he didnt win the espy for best nba player

i) kobes not the best because he couldnt even hit over 40% in the finals





but when lebron does any of these things. its the reason hes the best


when kobe does any of these things. it doesnt matter


when both dont do either of these things .... lebrons the best anyway.






these f*cking f*ggots


:lol

How do you spell unintelligent, bitter troll?

KENNETHGRIFFIN

Hey Yo
08-21-2015, 10:51 PM
So Curry shouldn't be rewarded for destroying teams so badly through 3 quarters to the point where it's a blow out and the starters are no longer needed..

That's uh, solid logic..
Implying that he did all himself the first 3 quarters and was then taken out?

Starters (plural) were taken out also and 6-10 reserves played the entire 4TH FTW?

Cocaine80s
08-21-2015, 10:59 PM
TheMarkFagsen melting down over lebron as usual

J Shuttlesworth
08-21-2015, 11:11 PM
lol why do you guys take what ESPN says so seriously? most of you guys complain about how ESPN is garbage and shouldn't be taken seriously, and then you go on and take it seriously

OP is the biggest offender of this

Heavincent
08-21-2015, 11:16 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Curry repeated.

FLDFSU
08-21-2015, 11:16 PM
TheMarkFagsen melting down over lebron as usual

This. The man is clearly obsessed with a person who doesn't even know he exists.

Smoke117
08-21-2015, 11:20 PM
yeah the guy who won less games with more All stars on his team should have definitely got it over Kobe that year..

and this other guy cemented that fact in the playoffs where he lost in 7 to the team that Kobe dismantled in 5 games..

Rent free. You are just too easy...

J Shuttlesworth
08-21-2015, 11:24 PM
MarkMadcuck really trying to turn this into a LeBron vs. Kobe thread? :biggums:

Lebron23
08-21-2015, 11:28 PM
TheMarkFagsen melting down over lebron as usual


True

Cavaliers are going to get the best record in the league. and LeBron would average his usual 26-27 ppg. Jesus Christ. Chipmunk Curry won an MVP Award averaging 23.8 ppg because the Warriors had the best record in the league.

WayOfWade
08-21-2015, 11:34 PM
In my opinion, he probably is the favorite and probably will win it. If his Cavs get the #1 seed in the east, he's got it locked up even if other guys deserve it more, because that's just how the voting works.
The league should let the players vote for the MVP, considering the fact that they play against the best players regularly. For instance, the players voted Harden the MVP over Curry, but the media voted Curry over Harden.

Lebron23
08-21-2015, 11:43 PM
Chipmunk didn't even average 24 ppg. He averaged 23.8 and 7.7 apg. I am sure Bron is going to get better numbers than him, and with the Current Roster of the Cavaliers right now. They are capable of winning more than 62 or more games next season.

Heavincent
08-21-2015, 11:56 PM
tell me again, why should anyone place curry in top 3 with kd, lebron and davis

Because he literally just won MVP and led his team to a title :hammerhead:

knicksman
08-22-2015, 12:06 AM
These dummies never learn after 2/6

knicksman
08-22-2015, 12:11 AM
True

Cavaliers are going to get the best record in the league. and LeBron would average his usual 26-27 ppg. Jesus Christ. Chipmunk Curry won an MVP Award averaging 23.8 ppg because the Warriors had the best record in the league.

Yet he played better than your boy in the playoffs. I mean .487 TS in the playoffs. Lol

Lebron23
08-22-2015, 12:19 AM
Yet he played better than your boy in the playoffs. I mean .487 TS in the playoffs. Lol


Lebron had better all around numbers than him. And he's playing without Love and Irving for most of the playoffs. Are you scared that the Cavs have a better bench right now?? The Lebron or even Irving with the 2nd unit would even beat the Knicks, but we all know you are not even a knicks fan.

knicksman
08-22-2015, 12:19 AM
If i were dumb, i would definitely go for bran

Lebron23
08-22-2015, 12:22 AM
If i were dumb, i would definitely go for bran


You are dumb, and stupid at the same time.

knicksman
08-22-2015, 12:25 AM
Lebron had better all around numbers than him. And he's playing without Love and Irving for most of the playoffs. Are you scared that the Cavs have a better bench right now?? The Lebron or even Irving with the 2nd unit would even beat the Knicks, but we all know you are not even a knicks fan.
Bla bla bla stats. Stats means nothing if you cant fit. So only result is what matters. Bran +/- is 0.3 while curry 6.3 and 1/1>2/6

Hey Yo
08-22-2015, 12:25 AM
If i were dumb, i would definitely go for bran
:biggums:

If???

You've provided many examples that you and your trolling is really dumb.

knicksman
08-22-2015, 12:33 AM
:biggums:

If???

You've provided many examples that you and your trolling is really dumb.
If i pretend to be dumb, i would definitely go for bran.:lol

Lebron23
08-22-2015, 12:39 AM
If i pretend to be dumb, i would definitely go for bran.:lol

Go F*ck yourself. I hope you disappear like Real14.

TheMarkMadsen
08-22-2015, 02:32 PM
Implying that he did all himself the first 3 quarters and was then taken out?

Starters (plural) were taken out also and 6-10 reserves played the entire 4TH FTW?

are you implying that he wasn't the main reason why his team won 67 games and were able to begin a lot of 4th's with the game already finished...

TheMarkMadsen
08-22-2015, 02:33 PM
Rent free. You are just too easy...

the only thing rent free about you is the fact that your mom doesn't charge you to stay in her basement

you brought up Kobe, not me..

TheMarkMadsen
08-22-2015, 02:36 PM
MarkMadcuck really trying to turn this into a LeBron vs. Kobe thread? :biggums:

I haven't said anything about Kobe in this thread you fuccing idiot :oldlol:

it's bran stans like you who constantly bring him up when i'm talking about totally different subjects :confusedshrug:

Hey Yo
08-22-2015, 02:55 PM
are you implying that he wasn't the main reason why his team won 67 games and were able to begin a lot of 4th's with the game already finished...
Part of the reason, yes. Main reason, no.

What other no.1 options could sit out twenty entire 4th quarters and still win the game comfortably this past season?

AD couldn't. LeBron or Harden couldn't. They didn't have the teammates for them to do so.

TheMarkMadsen
08-22-2015, 03:07 PM
Part of the reason, yes. Main reason, no.

What other no.1 options could sit out twenty entire 4th quarters and still win the game comfortably this past season?

AD couldn't. LeBron or Harden couldn't. They didn't have the teammates for them to do so.

ffs why even argue with somebody who thinks the MVP of the entire league isn't the main reason his teams have such large leads going into the 4th and isn't the main reason for his teams success ..


lebron was sitting out so many fourth quarters in 2012 that he went to the media to complain about it

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252847

I guess he wasn't the main reason his teams had such large leads going into the fourth since guys like KD & Kobe couldn't sit in the 4th quarter of games since they didn't have the teammates for them to do so

:facepalm :facepalm

guy
08-22-2015, 03:58 PM
Oh cool, another "who has worse teammates" pissing match. And what a coincidence, Lebron is at the center of it. Same old bullshit, different day.

SpecialQue
08-22-2015, 04:05 PM
Did anyone ever find out what his secret motivation to win the Finals was?

Someone here said that he promised a dying kid that he'd bring a championship to Cleveland. When they lost, the kid died.