Anyone else actually like Illegal Mexican immigrants?

[TonyMontana]

My opinion is rare.

But I love the illegal Mexicans, first generation Mexicans.

The Mexicans that I hate are the 2nd generation ones. The kids of those mexicans. And California, Arizona has a shit load of these ones. They have the same entitlement as other Americans, yet harp on and on about their skin color and other bullshit like that giving them some kind of "we are oppressed!" belief. Na kid your just a fukn chode. Then you have the ones that grew up in the ghetto since their parents were poor and they adopted ebonics culture.

The mexican immigrants should only be allowed to work here, and then send the money they make to families back home. Not bring them all here.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm a second generation Mexican, parents were born in Mexico, I was born in California. I don't feel entitled at all, I grew up in a bad neighborhood and there are alot of Mexicans who adopt the hip hop culture and sag their jeans and glorify the street life, but I was always smart enough to see past that ignorance. I've been to Mexico a bunch of times and grew up with my mexican culture always around me.

The type of people who really bother me are the ones who are born in good families with money, but they somehow adopt the hip hop culture and glorify the street life and believe selling drugs and pimping is the way to go, I know people like this, they also feel entitled because they were spoiled their whole life by their rich parents.

[BigNBAfan]

if america wants to better themselves, throw em all out, first second and third generations.

[Cocaine80s]

My opinion is rare.

But I love the illegal Mexicans, first generation Mexicans.

The Mexicans that I hate are the 2nd generation ones. The kids of those mexicans. And California, Arizona has a shit load of these ones. They have the same entitlement as other Americans, yet harp on and on about their skin color and other bullshit like that giving them some kind of "we are oppressed!" belief. Na kid your just a fukn chode. Then you have the ones that grew up in the ghetto since their parents were poor and they adopted ebonics culture.

The mexican immigrants should only be allowed to work here, and then send the money they make to families back home. Not bring them all here.
Are you saying you also hate black kids too since they adopted their culture?

[RidonKs]

oh look nick young remembered another of his alts

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I'm a second generation Mexican, parents were born in Mexico, I was born in California. I don't feel entitled at all, I grew up in a bad neighborhood and there are alot of Mexicans who adopt the hip hop culture and sag their jeans and glorify the street life, but I was always smart enough to see past that ignorance. I've been to Mexico a bunch of times and grew up with my mexican culture always around me.

The type of people who really bother me are the ones who are born in good families with money, but they somehow adopt the hip hop culture and glorify the street life and believe selling drugs and pimping is the way to go, I know people like this, they also feel entitled because they were spoiled their whole life by their rich parents.

I'm guessing you grew up in East LA?

[yobore]

Where I live in SC the ones I know are family folks who work their asses off so their kids can have a better life. It may be a different story closer to the border or where they make up a bigger proportion of the population, I don't know.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm guessing you grew up in East LA?

Bay Area

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't like illegal immigrants of any country. If you do not belong here, then get the **** out.

[NumberSix]

Do any Mexicans ever immigrate to Spain?

[andgar923]

The type of people who really bother me are the ones who are born in good families with money, but they somehow adopt the hip hop culture and glorify the street life and believe selling drugs and pimping is the way to go

This.

Some of us that grew up in a shitty environment are the way we are due to our environment.

If most of us had the option to grow up differently we would.

Most people from my neighborhood really are the way they are in order to survive... literally. It always sounds easier for people looking in to judge, but it aint as easy when you live in it.

It takes that much work, that much determination, that much disciplined, that much will than for those living outside of it. And it also takes the right circumstances for some of us to get ahead in life.

I've met people that grew up in a nice area that try to be hard, and I just shake my head cause they have no idea.

Now that I live in Ottawa I see that shit all over. People acting 'hood' and they have NO clue what it's actually like... no clue at all. Even some of the tough areas here in Ottawa and Toronto don't compare... not close.

[BigNBAfan]

Is there a group worse than fat mexicans?

[TheMan]

Do any Mexicans ever immigrate to Spain?
Yes, they do. A lot of them, but they're mostly well off. I know a few, one girl, the sister of the husband of my wife's oldest sister married a dude from Barcelona a currently she's living out there. Her mother makes such a big deal of him being Spainard. She's one of those fake personality types, trying to pretend like she's upper class and while she is upper middle class, she's far from being in the high society of the city we live in (Queretaro). Her big ticket (at least in her mind) is that he's Spanish and married to her daughter, even tif the dude works in a shipyard as a crane operator :lol. He's really nice and a big BF4 junkie like me so he's chill as **** but he is far from being "upper class".

A great example would be of that of a pompous and arrogant American chick wanting to potray being more cultured by brown nosing British folks amd always wanting to hang out with them. :lol

BTW, Mexicans can claim Spanish subjects status if they can prove an ancestor was Spanish, in my case, I've kinda explored that option, being that my great grandparents were Spanish. It would be cool as **** having US, Mexican, Spanish citizenship. I could practically go anywhere in the world :rockon:

[MMM]

i like the people

the people out there working, surviving

[Patrick Chewing]

BTW, Mexicans can claim Spanish subjects status if they can prove an ancestor was Spanish, in my case, I've kinda explored that option, being that my great grandparents were Spanish.


I would think we all would have Spanish ancestors if we have a Spanish surname. I have a very Spanish name. In fact, it is one of the Provinces in Spain.

[RidonKs]

it would suck if you were a 15 year old kid and you really like mexico for whatever reason and your parents made you move and then you had to spend the next 20 years supposing to be ashamed of being an illegal immigrant when you had nothing to do it and would rather forget the english language altogether!

IM JUST A KID AND LIFE IS A NIGHTMARE

[TheMan]

I would think we all would have Spanish ancestors if we have a Spanish surname. I have a very Spanish name. In fact, it is one of the Provinces in Spain.
True, but keep in mind that many Latin Americans, especially the more natives ones, most likely adopted a Spanish surname or was given one, kind of like black Americans and Anglo surnames. You have to prove by birth certificates and birth registries etc, to prove Spanish ancestry.

Edit:I meant to say all Latin Americans, not just Mexicans, can claim Spanish citizenship if they have a Spanish ancestor.

[stalkerforlife]

No one chose where they were born.

If they're here and not harming you by breaking serious laws, then let them all come.

People are people.

[Vaniiiia]

People complain about jobs they steal, but from my perspective, as a boss, I love them.

I am able to negotiate low salaries and in turn get great production. They really work hard.

Obamacare. :applause:

[NumberSix]

No one chose where they were born.

If they're here and not harming you by breaking serious laws, then let them all come.

People are people.
I actually wouldn't care about illegal immigration if there was a law that illegals can never collect any government benefits, can't send money outside the country and have to pay for using any public service that is paid for with tax money.

[imdaman99]

I have no problem with anyone that is hard working, regardless of their race or status. If they are not a detriment to society, than they should be accepted. This doesn't mean collecting handouts though.

[senelcoolidge]

Just enforce the rules. It's really unfair for people that go through the legal route. Having to wait long periods and the money that it takes. Throw the illegals out.

[Canelo_Griffin]

http://ideas.time.com/2014/02/25/dont-tell-amy-chua-mexicans-are-the-most-successful-immigrants/

People like to talk shit about Mexicans but as the article states, Mexicans are the most successful minority in that we quickly improve from the situations we are born/raised in. My parents came here with a 2nd grade education and all five of their children have graduated from University including 3 of us with Masters degrees. Many of my neighbors, cousins friends etc share similar situations. Same can't be said about other struggling minorities (unfortunately, actually)

[highwhey]

it would suck if you were a 15 year old kid and you really like mexico for whatever reason and your parents made you move and then you had to spend the next 20 years supposing to be ashamed of being an illegal immigrant when you had nothing to do it and would rather forget the english language altogether!

IM JUST A KID AND LIFE IS A NIGHTMARE
This would be a one in a million situation. Most mexicans that migrate to the US are dirt poor. If you have money in Mexico, you can afford a visa so as to enter the country legally.

As a Hispanic in the southwest, I've met many illegal kids, pretty sure all of them were happy af for being in the US. Having a $12/hr job is heaven for them.

[DeuceWallaces]

Cheap produce and good restaurants; don't bother me.

[UK2K]

it would suck if you were a 15 year old kid and you really like mexico for whatever reason and your parents made you move and then you had to spend the next 20 years supposing to be ashamed of being an illegal immigrant when you had nothing to do it and would rather forget the english language altogether!

IM JUST A KID AND LIFE IS A NIGHTMARE

Or you could let everyone know you're an illegal, and get free food, and education, and this, and that, and have easier than anyone else actually born in the states.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315115/Shocking-US-government-leaflet-tells-Mexican-immigrants-collect-food-stamp-benefits-admitting-theyre-country-illegally.html


A Spanish-language leaflet that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has provided to the Mexican Embassy in Washington advises border-crossing Mexicans that they can collect taxpayer-funded food stamp benefits for their children without admitting that they're illegal immigrants.


We're basically begging them to take our money. What a joke.

[QUOTE]

[NumberSix]

Or you could let everyone know you're an illegal, and get free food, and education, and this, and that, and have easier than anyone else actually born in the states.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315115/Shocking-US-government-leaflet-tells-Mexican-immigrants-collect-food-stamp-benefits-admitting-theyre-country-illegally.html



We're basically begging them to take our money. What a joke.



We all know ^^this^^ is why.

"If we cant get them out, we'll breed them out"

-Democrats
Can you imagine if the republicans had an official policy of importing all Russia's right wingers? Libs would be endlessly screaming about rigged elections.

It's funny, the dems entire political strategy for elections is...

1. Import people who will vote democrat
2. Bribe voters. Vote Dem, you'll get $20 of Bill Gates' money.

[niko]

Can you imagine if the republicans had an official policy of importing all Russia's right wingers? Libs would be endlessly screaming about rigged elections.

It's funny, the dems entire political strategy for elections is...

1. Import people who will vote democrat
2. Bribe voters. Vote Dem, you'll get $20 of Bill Gates' money.
Everyone does these type of things to affect elections. That's why electoral district maps in NY look like puzzle pieces cut up by an insane person. This enormous circle with tentacles extends into republican areas so you get that tone, and I get this one that looks like a whale with a long tail so this district is democrat, etc.

Anyone who acts like cheating is one sided has their slip showing.

[NumberSix]

Everyone does these type of things to affect elections. That's why electoral district maps in NY look like puzzle pieces cut up by an insane person. This enormous circle with tentacles extends into republican areas so you get that tone, and I get this one that looks like a whale with a long tail so this district is democrat, etc.

Anyone who acts like cheating is one sided has their slip showing.
Well, the establishment wing of the Republican Party is guilty too. They know money wins elections, so they'll militantly argue for subsidizing industries like big oil that don't need it so that they will in turn get campaign funding from these industries, as the Dems also do with planned parenthood.

Both parties definitely do pay for donors.

[UK2K]

Well, the establishment wing of the Republican Party is guilty too. They know money wins elections, so they'll militantly argue for subsidizing industries like big oil that don't need it so that they will in turn get campaign funding from these industries, as the Dems also do with planned parenthood.

Both parties definitely do pay for donors.

Look at the Abrams tanks made in Ohio.

We keep making them even though the military says they dont want them.

Just because Congressman X promised to deliver an order for however many tanks.

[bdreason]

Work hard and have some manners and you're okay with me.


If you're an American citizen, and you're worried about an Illegal immigrant taking your job... you're doing something wrong.

[TheMan]

Look at the Abrams tanks made in Ohio.

We keep making them even though the military says they dont want them.

Just because Congressman X promised to deliver an order for however many tanks.
Let's sell them to Cuba and Iran now that they're buddies of ours :applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

If you're an American citizen, and you're worried about an Illegal immigrant taking your job... you're doing something wrong.


Wow you're something else. You're going to steal that line from a very famous comic and not even have the decency to give him the credit for saying it first. You piece of crap.

[NumberSix]

Work hard and have some manners and you're okay with me.


If you're an American citizen, and you're worried about an Illegal immigrant taking your job... you're doing something wrong.
Yup. Just tell all the poor jobless black Americans "sorry, but the law requires me to give you certain benefits that I'm not required to give these illegals. You were born in the wrong country. You shoulda been born anywhere but here than illegally came here".

Ain't it grand being at a disadvantage in your own country?

[G-Funk]

I'm all for good people, I don't like to classify anyone, if ur a good human being, u alright with me. Everything else is just bullshit

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Very likable people in general.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Is there a group worse than fat mexicans?

You and ignorant people with sick hearts like yourself, you filthy f*cking scum.

You will fail whatever the f*ck ENT residence thing you have and mark my words.

Parading around like you've accomplished something soft Belgian little sh!t and advocating the deporting of first, second, third generation Americans; perhaps 100% of them superior to you in every way. Now attacking fat Mexicans. Luckily, your utterly powerless and worthless soul, BigNBAFan, is in a position where you will be the recipient of the hatred you've wrought on this world.

What's worse the fact that attention has been given to such a lowlife like you or your own horrendous character.

Nothing has been learned or gained from any of your idiot juvenile comments on these boards and therefore the best course of action, for the health of your soul, is to cut off your fingertips and/or sew your mouth shut.

In those moments while you're not spouting off completely false opinions or misdiagnosing the origins of vertigo, perhaps then you'd stop to ponder the meaning of Tafakkur.

You make me sick.

[iTare]

:lol

[TheMan]

Damn

[NumberSix]

Does Mexico like illegal aliens? What does Mexico do with Central American illegals?

[Patrick Chewing]

What does Mexico do with Central American illegals?


They're taking the jobs that the Mexicans don't want.

[UK2K]

Does Mexico like illegal aliens? What does Mexico do with Central American illegals?
Send them on north.

[UK2K]

You and ignorant people with sick hearts like yourself, you filthy f*cking scum.

You will fail whatever the f*ck ENT residence thing you have and mark my words.

Parading around like you've accomplished something soft Belgian little sh!t and advocating the deporting of first, second, third generation Americans; perhaps 100% of them superior to you in every way. Now attacking fat Mexicans. Luckily, your utterly powerless and worthless soul, BigNBAFan, is in a position where you will be the recipient of the hatred you've wrought on this world.

What's worse the fact that attention has been given to such a lowlife like you or your own horrendous character.

Nothing has been learned or gained from any of your idiot juvenile comments on these boards and therefore the best course of action, for the health of your soul, is to cut off your fingertips and/or sew your mouth shut.

In those moments while you're not spouting off completely false opinions or misdiagnosing the origins of vertigo, perhaps then you'd stop to ponder the meaning of Tafakkur.

You make me sick.
Are you a fat Mexican? Is that what this is?

[TheMan]

They're taking the jobs that the Mexicans don't want.
:lol

[ALBballer]

Why would anyone hate any individual that comes to this country and busts their ass to make a living? If I was in their position I would do the same. Don't blame the illegal immigrants that come to make a better life...blame the system in place that incentivizes employers to hire cheap labor that put the social costs of illegal immigrations (ie healthcare, education, etc) on the middle class taxpayer.

[NumberSix]

Why would anyone hate any individual that comes to this country and busts their ass to make a living? If I was in their position I would do the same. Don't blame the illegal immigrants that come to make a better life...blame the system in place that incentivizes employers to hire cheap labor that put the social costs of illegal immigrations (ie healthcare, education, etc) on the middle class taxpayer.
Nobody. It's the POLICY that people dislike.

[Lebron23]

Most of these guys are Lakers Fans.

[warriorfan]

Most of these guys are Lakers Fans.

Can you blame the illegal immigrants for liking Kobe?

[Lebron23]

Can you blame the illegal immigrants for liking Kobe?


KObe is a B1tch. Just like you.

[RidonKs]

Does Mexico like illegal aliens? What does Mexico do with Central American illegals?
well they used to deport them en masse

but in the last few years...

[QUOTE]Prior to May 2011, Mexico's immigration policy was regulated by the highly strict General Law of Population of 1970, which had been portrayed in hypocritical light when compared to immigration policies as in the US states of Arizona or Alabama. [B]However, on May 24, 2011, President Felipe Calder

[warriorfan]

KObe is a B1tch. Just like you.

Pipe down short stack

[Lebron23]

Pipe down short stack

I'll Knock your midget @$$ back to Burger King.

[9erempiree]

The problem with these illegal immigrants is that they are mostly drug dealers or criminals. Why I say this? It is 2015 and the American dream doesn't exist. The world is globalized. There is nothing in American that Mexico doesn't have.

I understand if you hate your birth country and want to move. If I wanted to move to Canada then I would do the proper procedure to move there. The only reason why I would be illegal is if I sneaked over there. By sneaking over there, I am almost admitting how much of a loser I am in America. Like I mentioned, it is 2015, Canada isn't going to give me something America hasn't already.

In a nutshell, these people coming over are more likely to be in poverty and their country doesn't offer the benefits like America, therefore they sneak in illegally. A family that is 'well off' and just want to move here would most likely go through the proper procedures.

That doesn't mean poor immigrants can't come here for a better opportunity, it just means if they want to genuinely be an American then they better respect the laws of the country. What do we call people that don't respect the laws of the country? Not-very-genuine Criminals.

[NumberSix]

The problem with these illegal immigrants is that they are mostly drug dealers or criminals. Why I say this? It is 2015 and the American dream doesn't exist. The world is globalized. There is nothing in American that Mexico doesn't have.
Well, that's obviously not true. Maybe 1% or 2% might fit that description, but that's a ridiculous characterization.

The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in the United States for a simple reason. It's because it's a more financially beneficial situation than the countries they come from. That's understandable. They know it's against the law, but they also know that those laws are NOT enforced. It's de facto allowed.

The problem is the government, not the aliens.

[UK2K]

Well, that's obviously not true. Maybe 1% or 2% might fit that description, but that's a ridiculous characterization.

The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in the United States for a simple reason. It's because it's a more financially beneficial situation than the countries they come from. That's understandable. They know it's against the law, but they also know that those laws are NOT enforced. It's de facto allowed.

The problem is the government, not the aliens.
Exactly.

Our welfare system is more reliable, and pays more.

[9erempiree]

Well, that's obviously not true. Maybe 1% or 2% might fit that description, but that's a ridiculous characterization.

The VAST majority of illegal aliens are in the United States for a simple reason. It's because it's a more financially beneficial situation than the countries they come from. That's understandable. They know it's against the law, but they also know that those laws are NOT enforced. It's de facto allowed.

The problem is the government, not the aliens.

That's crap and you know it. Like I said, how genuine are they in becoming Americans? Not so genuine to me. You cannot hop into someone's backyard and eat their BBQ and drink their beer and swim in their pool. You knock on the door and politely ask and if there is enough burgers than sure or bring some beer to the party.

To think you can eat my BBQ before I give some to my neighbors is ridiculous.

[KellhitEmup15]

That's crap and you know it. Like I said, how genuine are they in becoming Americans? Not so genuine to me. You cannot hop into someone's backyard and eat their BBQ and drink their beer and swim in their pool. You knock on the door and politely ask and if there is enough burgers than sure or bring some beer to the party.

To think you can eat my BBQ before I give some to my neighbors is ridiculous.

Brah what are you talking about. How is it their fault their government is corrupt as **** and works with drug cartels. Most are poor ass people not criminals and drug dealers. You watch to much TV.

[NumberSix]

Brah what are you talking about. How is it their fault their government is corrupt as **** and works with drug cartels. Most are poor ass people not criminals and drug dealers. You watch to much TV.
This^ is not a relevant point. Bad circumstances is not a license to break laws.

[DeuceWallaces]

This^ is not a relevant point. Bad circumstances is not a license to break laws.

Easy for you to say from your parents basement. If you actually had something to lose, something to work for, you might think and feel otherwise.

[KellhitEmup15]

This^ is not a relevant point. Bad circumstances is not a license to break laws.

I was not saying its a license I was just saying that they are not all criminals or drug dealers. I think if we fix the corruption problem in Mexico and latin america their would be less illegal immigration ad drug crime.

[NumberSix]

Easy for you to say from your parents basement. If you actually had something to lose, something to work for, you might think and feel otherwise.
Oh, so bad circumstances DOES give you immunity from the law? Damn, I didn't know that.

[NumberSix]

I was not saying its a license I was just saying that they are not all criminals or drug dealers. I think if we fix the corruption problem in Mexico and latin america their would be less illegal immigration ad drug crime.
Who is we?

Are you suggesting that the United States should overthrow the government of Mexico?

Mexican corruption is Mexico's problem to fix.

[ThePhantomCreep]

The problem with these illegal immigrants is that they are mostly drug dealers or criminals. Why I say this? It is 2015 and the American dream doesn't exist. The world is globalized. There is nothing in American that Mexico doesn't have.

I understand if you hate your birth country and want to move. If I wanted to move to Canada then I would do the proper procedure to move there. The only reason why I would be illegal is if I sneaked over there. By sneaking over there, I am almost admitting how much of a loser I am in America. Like I mentioned, it is 2015, Canada isn't going to give me something America hasn't already.

In a nutshell, these people coming over are more likely to be in poverty and their country doesn't offer the benefits like America, therefore they sneak in illegally. A family that is 'well off' and just want to move here would most likely go through the proper procedures.

That doesn't mean poor immigrants can't come here for a better opportunity, it just means if they want to genuinely be an American then they better respect the laws of the country. What do we call people that don't respect the laws of the country? Not-very-genuine Criminals.


Thanks for bringing the stupidity early in your post.

That saved me from reading the rest of this shit.

[DeuceWallaces]

Oh, so bad circumstances DOES give you immunity from the law? Damn, I didn't know that.

If you were ever faced with that kind of adversity you'd do the same. Well, you'd probably be dead.

Anyway, open borders are what made this country great. The only reason we're all here. No reason we should change that now because a bunch of xenophobic racists are scared dirt poor immigrants with a 5th grade education will take their jobs.

[ThePhantomCreep]

This^ is not a relevant point. Bad circumstances is not a license to break laws.

Crossing illegally is a victimless crime. And before you start claiming you're a victim because "mah taxes", illegal immigrants pay taxes. Billions of dollars worth, often for services they don't qualify for, like SS. Call it even.

[NumberSix]

If you were ever faced with that kind of adversity you'd do the same. Well, you'd probably be dead.

Anyway, open borders are what made this country great. The only reason we're all here. No reason we should change that now because a bunch of xenophobic racists are scared dirt poor immigrants with a 5th grade education will take their jobs.
Isn't it weird how these "xenophobic racists" are completely cool with legal immigrants? I guess all the legal ones must be a different race from the illegal ones.

[DeuceWallaces]

Isn't it weird how these "xenophobic racists" are completely cool with legal immigrants? I guess all the legal ones must be a different race from the illegal ones.

They're not really cool with the legal ones either.

[Patrick Chewing]

If you were ever faced with that kind of adversity you'd do the same. Well, you'd probably be dead.

Anyway, open borders are what made this country great. The only reason we're all here. No reason we should change that now because a bunch of xenophobic racists are scared dirt poor immigrants with a 5th grade education will take their jobs.


We're not changing anything. We are asking that people simply follow the rule of law. Something you are not familiar with. There's a right way to enter into this country. You're celebrating the wrong way. You're what's wrong with this country, not the people opposing illegal immigration.

[UK2K]

Crossing illegally is a victimless crime. And before you start claiming you're a victim because "mah taxes", illegal immigrants pay taxes. Billions of dollars worth, often for services they don't qualify for, like SS. Call it even.

:lol

What liberal website convinced you of this?

[DeuceWallaces]

We're not changing anything. We are asking that people simply follow the rule of law. Something you are not familiar with. There's a right way to enter into this country. You're celebrating the wrong way. You're what's wrong with this country, not the people opposing illegal immigration.

It's clearly changed from the time I was referring to. And that particular rule of law is inconsequential, which is why it's hardly enforced, because no one gives a shit except for a bunch of xenophobes worried about poor immigrants taking their jobs.

If you had real skills and an education you would not be concerned with immigrants, legal or otherwise.

[UK2K]

They're not really cool with the legal ones either.

My stepmother is a legal immigrant. From Bogota. I kinda like her.

Keep trying though DW, one of these days, you'll claim someone was racist and may be partially correct.

[UK2K]

It's clearly changed from the time I was referring to. And that particular rule of law is inconsequential, which is why it's hardly enforced, because no one gives a shit except for a bunch of xenophobes worried about poor immigrants taking their jobs.

If you had real skills and an education you would not be concerned with immigrants, legal or otherwise.
The Texas DPS report says well over 100,000 individual criminal aliens have been booked into Texas jails:

From October 2008 to April 2014, Texas identified a total 177,588 unique criminal alien defendants booked into Texas county jails. These individuals have been identified through the Secure Communities initiative, in which Texas has participated since October 2008.


Yeah, no big deal. See people with real jobs dont want to pay for that shit. Or their welfare. Or free education. Especially when they shouldnt be here to begin with.

Let me ask you something though, DW, seriously. Should we eliminate the borders all together? In your opinion, you seem to be all about open borders. So why not have a 'this way to free welfare' line that we can just expedite the process and allow everyone from all over the world come here? I think several hundred million Chinese would like to come over too. Pick em up!

[Patrick Chewing]

If you had real skills and an education you would not be concerned with immigrants, legal or otherwise.


I am concerned. I'm concerned that my parents migrated to this country LEGALLY, and there are millions of others cheating the system. The same system that blessed my parents with American citizenship. The only way I would be here today to own your sorry ass on a consistent basis. Someone has to make fun of your rosy cheeks, and that someone is me. So I'm concerned that my parents, apparently to you, wasted their ****ing time spending money on becoming citizens because your degenerate ass thinks anyone and everyone can come over here and just lay claim to something.

What makes America great is law and order. Otherwise, we'd be no better than those countries we bomb overseas for not having their shit together.

You seriously need a refresher course on American History.

[DeuceWallaces]

My stepmother is a legal immigrant. From Bogota. I kinda like her.

Keep trying though DW, one of these days, you'll claim someone was racist and may be partially correct.

That doesn't make you right, it just makes you a hypocrite.

Now if you could only find the same compassion for the ones who aren't ****ing your dad.

[DeuceWallaces]

I am concerned. I'm concerned that my parents migrated to this country LEGALLY, and there are millions of others cheating the system. The same system that blessed my parents with American citizenship. The only way I would be here today to own your sorry ass on a consistent basis. Someone has to make fun of your rosy cheeks, and that someone is me. So I'm concerned that my parents, apparently to you, wasted their ****ing time spending money on becoming citizens because your degenerate ass thinks anyone and everyone can come over here and just lay claim to something.

What makes America great is law and order. Otherwise, we'd be no better than those countries we bomb overseas for not having their shit together.

You seriously need a refresher course on American History.

The ones coming here illegally don't cheapen or invalidate those who did it legally or were born here. Just like gay marriage and civil rights, which I'm sure you're also against.

[UK2K]

That doesn't make you right, it just makes you a hypocrite.

Now if you could only find the same compassion for the ones who aren't ****ing your dad.

I don't have any issues with people who came here the legal way.

Perhaps I could find the same compassion for those if they followed in her footsteps and, I dont know, filled out the paperwork to come here? As opposed to hiding in the weeds and sprinting across the border to the nearest welfare station?

[DeuceWallaces]

It shouldn't matter how they crossed the imaginary line.

[9erempiree]

Brah what are you talking about. How is it their fault their government is corrupt as **** and works with drug cartels. Most are poor ass people not criminals and drug dealers. You watch to much TV.

I watch too much TV? How do you know they're not?

Do you honestly think a well-off family would come here illegally? Are they more likely to sell drugs? Probably not to both.

Now some of you have mentioned, desperate times calls for desperate measures, even sneaking over to America. Do you know how dangerous it is to come across the border? It's desert climate on foot and chances of death are high. You're going to tell me these people have a sane mind? Heck, it's insane not to sell drugs.

These people are borderline criminals and if they are crazy enough to risk their life in harsh climates with children, then they should not be granted citizenship unless they properly and safely get over here.

Here's another take on it.....I don't want illegal immigrants to come over here because the climate is too dangerous and you guys don't care if they die, as long as they keep your produce prices low.

....and I am the one that is a supposed racist?

I am more compassionate than those that want cheap food.

[UK2K]

It shouldn't matter how they crossed the imaginary line.

But it does.

Because one pays their dues, and one cheats the system. Would you care if you took a test and studied and got an 90 while your classmate didnt study shit, cheated, and got an 85? I would. Maybe you're just nice like that. Especially if the teacher said 'Now DW, you have to give some of your points to the guy who cheated cause, hes at a disadvantage'.

The system isn't designed for you to sneak across the border with your hand out. It's a land of opportunity, or used to be. Now its a land of dependency.

[Patrick Chewing]

The ones coming here illegally don't cheapen or invalidate those who did it legally or were born here.

Who the hell are you to say that? Of course they invalidate it. Both my parents assimilated to the culture, speak English, listen to the Beatles, and make over 6 figures a piece. Of course illegals cheapen it.

You have no basis in which to talk about this subject. You're probably an 8th generation jabroni Wallace that has built his white guilt over the years for no apparent reason whatsoever other than to just be different.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I am concerned. I'm concerned that my parents migrated to this country LEGALLY, and there are millions of others cheating the system. The same system that blessed my parents with American citizenship. The only way I would be here today to own your sorry ass on a consistent basis. Someone has to make fun of your rosy cheeks, and that someone is me. So I'm concerned that my parents, apparently to you, wasted their ****ing time spending money on becoming citizens because your degenerate ass thinks anyone and everyone can come over here and just lay claim to something.

What makes America great is law and order. Otherwise, we'd be no better than those countries we bomb overseas for not having their shit together.

You seriously need a refresher course on American History.

You act like dirt-poor migrants are choosing to enter the country illegally. :lol

Few visa categories, high expenses and processing times that can stretch decades put several obstacles along the legal road to immigration especially if you're poor.

I'd wager the vast majority of our illegal population would enter legally were it a feasible option.

[KellhitEmup15]

Honestly I can see both sides of these issues points but I don't like how some people can generalize others as drug dealers and criminals when they probably have the same rate of doing crimes as americans. I know a lot of people who parents immigrated here illegally and legally both of them are not terrible people just because of the way they came here. You can say being here illegally is bad but not that they are bad people for other reasons.

[KellhitEmup15]

Are the children from central america running from gang violence and civil conflicts criminals. No they are running away from their country because its as ****ed as the middle east.


[QUOTE] Although some have traveled from as far away as Sri Lanka and Tanzania, the bulk are minors from Mexico and from Central America's so-called Northern Triangle

[UK2K]

Honestly I can see both sides of these issues points but I don't like how some people can generalize others as drug dealers and criminals when they probably have the same rate of doing crimes as americans. I know a lot of people who parents immigrated here illegally and legally both of them are not terrible people just because of the way they came here. You can say being here illegally is bad but not that they are bad people for other reasons.

I don't consider them drug dealers or criminals (although there are a lot), my issue is the strain on our budgets to feed and house and provide healthcare for 30,000,000 people who shouldn't be here in the first place.

I ask DW already, why not open borders? Why not have a big boat drive around all over the world and pick up anyone who wants to come here and then drop them off, and let them apply for welfare and food stamps.

Why not? Because he knows its not financially feasible, thats why. He likes to use this debate to try and paint anti-illegal immigration pushers as racist, when in reality, he knows he couldn't accept everyone in the world who wants to live here. So he simply chooses to defend the ones he can try and yell racist at people when they disagree.

[ThePhantomCreep]

That 30 million figure parroted by the Fox News shills is as phony as a three dollar bill.

[KellhitEmup15]

I don't consider them drug dealers or criminals (although there are a lot), my issue is the strain on our budgets to feed and house and provide healthcare for 30,000,000 people who shouldn't be here in the first place.

I ask DW already, why not open borders? Why not have a big boat drive around all over the world and pick up anyone who wants to come here and then drop them off, and let them apply for welfare and food stamps.

Why not? Because he knows its not financially feasible, thats why. He likes to use this debate to try and paint anti-illegal immigration pushers as racist, when in reality, he knows he couldn't accept everyone in the world who wants to live here. So he simply chooses to defend the ones he can try and yell racist at people when they disagree.

I understand you issue with immigration. I don't understand why we go to fix countries that are separated by miles of oceans but don't care to fix the central american countries which are probably as messed up as those middle eastern countries.

[9erempiree]

Also....

Please don't mistake these people as refugees. I think this is the part where people get it mixed up.

A lot of you guys seem to be arguing that they are. They are not refugees because their country has actually allowed them to make something of themselves.

In a recent study done in 2013, The Econmist, Mexicans feel that they rather stay and get a high school education than cross the hot, rattle snake infested desert. They want to obtain a degree before even heading to America.

http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/938/6746992993.jpg

All this talk about not all being criminals is true but why do we allow the bad ones instead of the good ones? Like I said, the good ones usually make something out of themselves while the bad ones have no choice. America should NOT have to take care of the bad ones.

[DeuceWallaces]

But it does.

Because one pays their dues, and one cheats the system. Would you care if you took a test and studied and got an 90 while your classmate didnt study shit, cheated, and got an 85? I would. Maybe you're just nice like that. Especially if the teacher said 'Now DW, you have to give some of your points to the guy who cheated cause, hes at a disadvantage'.

The system isn't designed for you to sneak across the border with your hand out. It's a land of opportunity, or used to be. Now its a land of dependency.

I'm concerned with myself, not so much with what others are doing. Your analogy of giving points is also idiotic. The only reason we're all here is unabated immigration for nearly a couple of centuries.

Worry about yourself, and not so much about others or how you feel their life cheapens your experiences. You'll be a lot less angry and more productive.

[DeuceWallaces]

Who the hell are you to say that? Of course they invalidate it. Both my parents assimilated to the culture, speak English, listen to the Beatles, and make over 6 figures a piece. Of course illegals cheapen it.

You have no basis in which to talk about this subject. You're probably an 8th generation jabroni Wallace that has built his white guilt over the years for no apparent reason whatsoever other than to just be different.

Lol, your parents listen to a British band. Stop the ****ing presses. Maybe they should emigrate to England. I'm sure they'll be welcomed with open arms due to their musical tastes.

You still haven't mentioned exactly how illegals cheapen you or your parents' life.

[UK2K]

I'm concerned with myself, not so much with what others are doing. Your analogy of giving points is also idiotic. The only reason we're all here is unabated immigration for nearly a couple of centuries.

Worry about yourself, and not so much about others or how you feel their life cheapens your experiences. You'll be a lot less angry and more productive.

Unfortunately, the presence of 30,000,0000 illegal immigrants does, in fact, affect me.

[ThePhantomCreep]

REPEAT: The 30 million figure cited by right-wing Fox News shills is as authentic as a three dollar bill.

[DeuceWallaces]

Unfortunately, the presence of 30,000,0000 illegal immigrants does, in fact, affect me.

If only it were true. (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/24/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/)

[bdreason]

I understand you issue with immigration. I don't understand why we go to fix countries that are separated by miles of oceans but don't care to fix the central american countries which are probably as messed up as those middle eastern countries.


Because we already have puppet governments running those (Central American) Countries.