When a country is shitty, why do people blame it on America?

[Nick Young]

When a country is shitty and full of violence and corruption, why do people blame it on America and Imperialism?


Surely this is a xenophobic and patronizing attitude to hold for an entire country and its people. It is basically saying that people in these countries are incapable of governing themselves and not being violent and corrupt.

Shitty countries. It's time to accept responsibility for being shit. Only by accepting your own failure can you dig yourself out of the shit. It is time to stop being helpless victims!

This is a friendly message from my countrymen in my country, Europe.

[UK2K]

When a country is shitty and full of violence and corruption, why do people blame it on America and Imperialism?


Surely this is a xenophobic and patronizing attitude to hold for an entire country and its people. It is basically saying that people in these countries are incapable of governing themselves and not being violent and corrupt.

Shitty countries. It's time to accept responsibility for being shit. Only by accepting your own failure can you dig yourself out of the shit. It is time to stop being helpless victims!

This is a friendly message from my countrymen in my country, Europe.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

We saved the world, twice. Should have just stayed out of WW1 and WW2 and allowed the mass slaughter of civilians on both sides of the planet.

Should just do that now. Pull all our troops back inside our own borders, and let everyone fend for themselves.

That way, we can't be blamed for other's inability to govern themselves. But of course, they will say 'but 120 years ago when you...'.

[kurple]

Ukraine aint blaming America

only the countries that America decide to "help" also called, stealing their oil

[LexiKhan]

Should just do that now. Pull all our troops back inside our own borders, and let everyone fend for themselves.



Lol, America would colapse in like 3 years if it isolates itself.

[MMM]

shitty americans couldn't govern them selves and tanked the world economy with their greed and shortsightedness

[UK2K]

Lol, America would colapse in like 3 years if it isolates itself.
The rest of the world would collapse much sooner than that.

[9erempiree]

America basically built the entire world's infrastructure with the internet.

Don't forget people, you are posting on an American platform.

[NumberSix]

Ukraine aint blaming America

only the countries that America decide to "help" also called, stealing their oil
Who's oil did the United States steal?

[9erempiree]

Who's oil did the United States steal?

I've been waiting for that answer for years.

[Payton2Dipo]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

We saved the world, twice. Should have just stayed out of WW1 and WW2 and allowed the mass slaughter of civilians on both sides of the planet.

Should just do that now. Pull all our troops back inside our own borders, and let everyone fend for themselves.

That way, we can't be blamed for other's inability to govern themselves. But of course, they will say 'but 120 years ago when you...'.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[bluechox2]

if we were to "withdraw our forces" north and south korea would obliterate each other, china would **** over japan and neighboring countries, Russia would **** over europe, india and pakistan would go full armageddon on each other, africa would starve to death, middle east...will you know...middle east itself...

we have enough oil to keep us sustained until the rest of the world comes back begging... tell china to **** off with paying the debt...we save a couple trillion there plus reducing our defense budget ...

[LexiKhan]

if we were to "withdraw our forces" north and south korea would obliterate each other, china would **** over japan and neighboring countries, Russia would **** over europe, india and pakistan would go full armageddon on each other, africa would starve to death, middle east...will you know...middle east itself...

Sure buddy, US of A is the last best hope of humanity and is single-handedly keeping world peace out of the goodness of their hearts.

[9erempiree]

Sure buddy, US of A is the last best hope of humanity and is single-handedly keeping world peace out of the goodness of their hearts.

ISIS anyone?

N. Korea?

...but USA is keeping peace out of humanity. Yea buddy.

[LexiKhan]

ISIS anyone?

N. Korea?

...but USA is keeping peace out of humanity. Yea buddy.

USA protects its economic interests, which is respectable enough, but that's it.

And they aren't doing much against ISIS and it's not like N.Korea couldn't be contained but the other regional powers if necessary.

[NumberSix]

USA protects its economic interests, which is respectable enough, but that's it.

And they aren't doing much against ISIS and it's not like N.Korea couldn't be contained but the other regional powers if necessary.
It really doesn't though. Elected politicians protect the interest of their donors.

[bluechox2]

europe did a swell job containing russia so far and helping ukraine

saudis masterfully keeping the peace

[Payton2Dipo]

Itt: People too stupid to recognize the detrimental effects of imperialism and the ineffectiveness of interventions.

[Dbrog]

USA protects its economic interests, which is respectable enough, but that's it.

And they aren't doing much against ISIS and it's not like N.Korea couldn't be contained but the other regional powers if necessary.

Even if this were true, USA "protecting it's own interests" has the secondary gain of maintaining a safer world for everyone to enjoy. I don't really see how the primary gain matters since the results are positive (yes I know many of the results have been negative).

[rufuspaul]

europe did a swell job containing russia so far and helping ukraine

saudis masterfully keeping the peace


:oldlol:

[Godzuki]

truth is when you're on top there are bound to be people who hate you. its a universal law that applies to every situation where someone is top dog. it can be sports, politics, professions, whatever.

and honestly considering how many people who love us, who want to be us, and desperate to get to us, we're probably the GOAT country :pimp:

[TheMan]

The rest of the world would collapse much sooner than that.
Not if China demanded immediate payment of the US debt they own.

[BigNBAfan]

When a country is shitty and full of violence and corruption, why do people blame it on America and Imperialism?


Surely this is a xenophobic and patronizing attitude to hold for an entire country and its people. It is basically saying that people in these countries are incapable of governing themselves and not being violent and corrupt.

Shitty countries. It's time to accept responsibility for being shit. Only by accepting your own failure can you dig yourself out of the shit. It is time to stop being helpless victims!

This is a friendly message from my countrymen in my country, Europe.

Europe is not a country, don't speak for everyone in europe

[NumberSix]

Not if China demanded immediate payment of the US debt they own.
Why would they? :confusedshrug:

[FKAri]

US fcked up in Somalia for sure. There is really no debate there. They fkced around in Iran. Theyve helped some others. In the end the US is obviously doing what's in their best interest like everyone else. I think France and England have hurt more countries than US overall.

[outbreak]

the countries that blame america are the countries america got involved with to "help them out" because they wanted their resources/position for a base. It's the same as when people were blaming Britain back in the day when they withdrew from colonies and left a mess politically.

[I<3NBA]

i blame America for the financial crash. i still will because the big one hasn't yet happened.

[Nick Young]

USA protects its economic interests, which is respectable enough, but that's it.

And they aren't doing much against ISIS and it's not like N.Korea couldn't be contained but the other regional powers if necessary.
You are retarded. USA is the most benevolent empire in world history. Do you think the Romans would donate $1 billion in aid every time an earthquake hits some shitty island that offers nothing of economic value?

Every time a national disaster strikes, America is there with the most aid, and the world expects it. Every time a war erupts in some shitty country, the world expects America to step in and sort it out, and when they don't, the world yells at America for not helping.

Then when America does intervene in a foreign affair, the world yells at them for playing world police.


Americans are maintaining peace in so many countries it's not even funny. If American soldiers packed up their shit and all went back to USA, WWIII would erupt by the end of the week.


In my country, Europe, we thank god every day that the Americans are there to protect us.

[Nick Young]

Even if this were true, USA "protecting it's own interests" has the secondary gain of maintaining a safer world for everyone to enjoy. I don't really see how the primary gain matters since the results are positive (yes I know many of the results have been negative).
USA's interest is world peace, so it can keep making money.

Maintaining world peace is a good thing for every one. What are you bitching about?

[Nick Young]

Not if China demanded immediate payment of the US debt they own.
LOL this is a message to you and all the other f*cking retards who bring this up as "evidence" to say America isn't number 1.


We will never pay China back shit.

Their threats and demands would mean nothing to us because our military force would be able to destroy China and turn the entire country in to the new Baghdad if they ever did get serious.

China knows not to ever demand the debt payed back because they know what the results will be.


China is never seeing that debt payed back. A "debt" that USA owes to China doesn't mean shit.

[LexiKhan]

USA's interest is world peace, so it can keep making money. Maintaining world peace is a good thing for every one. What are you bitching about?

LOL this is a message to you and all the other f*cking retards who bring this up as "evidence" to say America isn't number 1. We will never pay China back shit. Their threats and demands would mean nothing to us because our military force would be able to destroy China and turn the entire country in to the new Baghdad if they ever did get serious.

:roll: This guy and his funny ass gimmicks.

[Nick Young]

Europe is not a country, don't speak for everyone in europe
In my country, Europe, we Europeans all speak for our country, Europe.


#OneEurope
#OneHeart
#OneLove
#OneEU

[Derka]

Not if China demanded immediate payment of the US debt they own.
A statement like that says to me that you have no idea how the principle behind that works; you just heard it as a talking point somewhere and decided to regurgitate it.

China would be completely and utterly f*cked if they decided to sell off their US holdings.

[Nick Young]

A statement like that says to me that you have no idea how the principle behind that works; you just heard it as a talking point somewhere and decided to regurgitate it.

China would be completely and utterly f*cked if they decided to sell off their US holdings.
It's something butthurt non-Americans say to help them feel good about themselves. Usually butthurt non-Americans that come from countries that used to be big world powers like the UK, France, Germany or Spain.

"Yeah, but you owe China so much money, they are the true super power."

British dumbasses especially are fond of re-quoting this fallacy based on ignorance.

[UK2K]

ISIS anyone?

N. Korea?

...but USA is keeping peace out of humanity. Yea buddy.

I think ISIS is, as Obama put, a JV team.

Their atrocities are unparalleled, but their ability to engage in open combat is a joke.

They are nothing but cave people and goat ****ers. They have only gained what they have gained, because the soldiers that are opposing them are shitter than they are.

Look at the Afghan army run from the Taliban when they outnumber them 40-1. The men in the armies of the middle east have no interest in fighting. None. I saw it in 2010, I see it now. They gave up towns and districts to the Taliban that five years ago, we steamrolled them out of. I mean, Musa Qala? We absolutely destroyed them and sent them running just a few years ago. Soon as we leave, the AA give it right back.

I honestly believe in six months, with a few divisions of Marines, and no 'rules of engagement' to handcuff us, and the media being kept out, ISIS would be an afterthought by Christmas.

[Nick Young]

I think ISIS is, as Obama put, a JV team.

Their atrocities are unparalleled, but their ability to engage in open combat is a joke.

They are nothing but cave people and goat ****ers. They have only gained what they have gained, because the militaries that are opposing them are shitter than they are.

Look at the Afghan army run from the Taliban when they outnumber them 40-1. The men in the armies of the middle east have no interest in fighting. None. I saw it in 2010, I see it now.

I honestly believe in six months, with a few divisions of Marines, and no 'rules of engagement' to handcuff us, and the media being kept out, ISIS would be an afterthought by Christmas.
Wrong. Most of their leadership are highly educated rich guys who grew up/got their university education in the west. Most of their financial backers are highly respected millionaires and billionaires. Many of their recruits are Europeans who were raised and educated in the west.


They wouldn't be an after thought after Christmas. ISIS would use guerilla tactics and stretch this out as long as they possibly can. Their leadership is not retarded. They would not have gotten as far as they have so far if they were nothing but raving religious lunatics with no sense of reality.


ISIS's ultimate plan is to draw USA in to the conflict so that they can go in to geurilla mode and make us waste as many resources and money on them as possible. They will stretch shit out as long as they can. We still haven't "won" in Afghanistan or Iraq and it will be no different with ISIS.


ISIS knows they have zero chance to beat the USA in open combat. Their goal is to draw the USA in to conflict. They will use this to become martyrs and inspire new recruits to join ISIS. This shit will never end if USA goes fully in on them. It will only help to inspire and encourage more retarded radical militants and jihadi brides.

And liberal retard newspapers like the Guardian will begin sympathizing with ISIS and saying they are innocent victims of Imperialism who have no choice but to cut out people's hearts and eat them on TV.


My country, Europe, needs to shut the borders on any of these retarded radicalized assholes and jihadi brides who go to ISIS and then realize it's shit and want to go back to Europe.

It is embarrassing that countries like Denmark and Sweden encourage them to come back and then spend millions to pay for their 'rehabilitation'