Mo Williams will be the Cavaliers starting point guard until January

[Lebron23]

Excellent signing by the Cavaliers. He can play 30-32 minutes per game while Delly is only going to play under 20 minutes per game. Williams is still a better point guard than Dellavedova, and a better shooter.

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[3ball]

The title of your post is incorrect - LEBRON will be the Cavs point guard, just like he has for all his teams (he was the PG alongside Mo Williams, Chalmers and Kyrie).

The NBA's player-tracking data shows that Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie Irving.. If Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie, we know he dominated the ball more than Mo Williams in 2009 and 2010.. Mo Williams is more of a spot-up shooter anyway - a better version of Chalmers.

Being the primary ballhandler is the only area where Lebron is elite - and yet MJ was better than him at this too.. In the playoffs, Lebron averages less than 1 assist more per game than MJ, even though the NBA's player-tracking stats show he dominates the ball more than starting PG's... MJ is the superior passer when playing off-ball and he's been proven the better passer as the primary ballhandler too:

The one time MJ got to dominate the ball like a PG (for 24 games at the end of 1989 season), his 30/9/11 averages and stretch of 10 triple-doubles in 11 games is better than anything Lebron has done in his entire CAREER as a ball-dominator..

Lebron did have a 12 game stretch in 2010, where he was the actual, listed PG - his ball-domination went through the roof, more than his standard, and he averaged 30/7/11 - but it was only for 12 games and it was against teams that average 34 wins (lottery teams), while MJ's 24 game stretch came against teams averaging 45 wins (playoff teams).

[riseagainst]

The title of your post is incorrect - LEBRON will be the Cavs point guard, just like he has for all his teams (he was the PG alongside Mo Williams, Chalmers and Kyrie).

The NBA's player-tracking data shows that Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie Irving.. If Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie, we know he dominated the ball more than Mo Williams in 2009 and 2010.. Mo Williams is more of a spot-up shooter anyway - a better version of Chalmers.

Being the primary ballhandler is the only area where Lebron is elite - and yet MJ was better than him at this too.. In the playoffs, Lebron averages less than 1 assist more per game than MJ, even though the NBA's player-tracking stats show he dominates the ball more than starting PG's... MJ is the superior passer when playing off-ball and he's been proven the better passer as the primary ballhandler too:

The one time MJ got to dominate the ball like a PG (for 24 games at the end of 1989 season), his 30/9/11 averages and stretch of 10 triple-doubles in 11 games is better than anything Lebron has done in his entire CAREER as a ball-dominator..

Lebron did have a 12 game stretch in 2010, where he was the actual, listed PG - his ball-domination went through the roof, more than his standard, and he averaged 30/7/11 - but it was only for 12 games and it was against teams that average 34 wins (lottery teams), while MJ's 24 game stretch came against teams averaging 45 wins (playoff teams).


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[AnaheimLakers24]

2/7

[Trollsmasher]

The title of your post is incorrect - LEBRON will be the Cavs point guard, just like he has for all his teams (he was the PG alongside Mo Williams, Chalmers and Kyrie).

The NBA's player-tracking data shows that Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie Irving.. If Lebron dominates the ball more than Kyrie, we know he dominated the ball more than Mo Williams in 2009 and 2010.. Mo Williams is more of a spot-up shooter anyway - a better version of Chalmers.

Being the primary ballhandler is the only area where Lebron is elite - and yet MJ was better than him at this too.. In the playoffs, Lebron averages less than 1 assist more per game than MJ, even though the NBA's player-tracking stats show he dominates the ball more than starting PG's... MJ is the superior passer when playing off-ball and he's been proven the better passer as the primary ballhandler too:

The one time MJ got to dominate the ball like a PG (for 24 games at the end of 1989 season), his 30/9/11 averages and stretch of 10 triple-doubles in 11 games is better than anything Lebron has done in his entire CAREER as a ball-dominator..

Lebron did have a 12 game stretch in 2010, where he was the actual, listed PG - his ball-domination went through the roof, more than his standard, and he averaged 30/7/11 - but it was only for 12 games and it was against teams that average 34 wins (lottery teams), while MJ's 24 game stretch came against teams averaging 45 wins (playoff teams).
MJ lost half of his games because of his teams below average offensive output caused by his poor ball domination skills

MJ needed other people to run the offense for it to be good

[DukeDelonte13]

Mo Williams is like a very poor mans kyrie.


I will say that the Q will go absolutely apesh*t when he name gets announced.

Mo was pretty beloved when he was here.

[WayOfWade]

Mo Williams has still got it. No doubt he's getting older, but plugging him in at PG until January shouldn't be a problem because it's another shooter LeBron can pass it to. Yeah LeBron's going to dominate the ball, but this will help him do so more efficiently while Kyrie is out

[3ball]

MJ lost half of his games because of his teams below average offensive output caused by his poor ball domination skills

MJ needed other people to run the offense for it to be good
The Bulls had the same win percentage with MJ at point guard as they did when he was at SG, even though they played teams with better records (teams averaged 45 wins during MJ's point guard stretch, compared to 40 wins the rest of the year).
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[SpecialQue]

Mo is a very solid player that it's become popular to shit on. No, he's not great, but he's decent, and the Cavs have enough tools that he'll suffice until Kyrie comes back.

Also, 3Ball needs to rot in hell.

[KembaWalker]

Mo dropped 50 last season, he still has it

[swagga]

MJ lost half of his games because of his teams below average offensive output caused by his poor ball domination skills

MJ needed other people to run the offense for it to be good

3ball eviscerated

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[Lebronxrings]

well at least the cavs finally have a pg that isn't a d leaguer or a choker.

[3ball]

3Ball needs to rot in hell.


The Cavs would've won the Finals this year if Lebron could've shot 50%.. But we should've known beforehand that he wasn't capable of good efficiency at high shot volume, since he's horrible at the additional midrange and isolations required of high volume shooting.. You can't get 27 fga on all 3-and-D..

Of course, there's no danger in letting Lebron shoot 39%, so Lebron's inability to have good efficiency at high volume allowed the Warriors to permit his secluded 1-on-1 clearouts on the strongside all series long.

Lebron's lack of midrange ability didn't just prevent him from good efficiency at high volumes and subsequent double-teams, but it prevents him from being as good in the 80's, when midrange was the primary option remaining in the absence of the 3-pointers necessary to make screen-roll/drive-and-kick mathematically worthwhile.

[KnittingRyu]

MJ lost half of his games because of his teams below average offensive output caused by his poor ball domination skills

MJ needed other people to run the offense for it to be good

You are right. MJ was terrible for his team. They should have traded him.

[KNOW1EDGE]

MJ lost half of his games because of his teams below average offensive output caused by his poor ball domination skills

MJ needed other people to run the offense for it to be good

Yeah. Look up the numbers Jordan put up when Phil experimented with MJ at point guard, horrible statistics.

Also, the Bulls were much better off with Jordan, he sucked. Their franchise was much better off before Michael, and are much better off now that he's gone. That time period that MJ was on the Bulls is a stain on the Bulls legacy.

[RedBlackAttack]

I love how everyone has taken this story and run with it. One "league source" told Haynes that Irving "could" be out through December ... and now everyone just assumes that is the timeline.

I find it interesting that he hasn't been backed up by any of the other Cavs beat writers. In fact, Windhorst (who is wrong more often than he is right, to be fair) tweeted today that Kyrie will be back before January.

[oh the horror]

3ball eviscerated

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Ironically enough that's what I'm doing to my toilet right now while treading this thread