I wonder what the 60's version of this would look like for hoops

[sundizz]

https://instagram.com/p/6xTarWowwy/

Being in the top .03% (99.97% worse) - current

vs

Being in the top .50% (99.50% worse) - 60's

In case you don't understand how huge a difference this is, take a look at the richest 200 people and then take a look at the next richest 201-2000 people.

Without even checking, I'd guess the combined value of those first 200 is way more than the combined value of the next 1800.

That's the difference talent pool makes.

Edit: Right, 99.97, i mindlessly copied it from the instagram. Funny that it is promoting academics lol.

[DatAsh]

Interesting, no idea if the data is correct, but it seems reasonable.

1 - .03 is 99.97 though

[AnaheimLakers24]

I dont even consider the 60s an era of real basketball.

[swagga]

I don't know tbh, but insidehoops of the 60s would surely look like this.

FastMilkDelivery: "Kind sir, could you please give me the phone number of that tall guy that scored 100 points, I hear he works a day job delivering milk"

SouthernBlues: "Oh golly, Betty Sue, that neg*ro runs faster than the robber we chased last week at our KKK meeting"

LAMovies: "Looking for a tall man to play the role of Goliath. Competitive pay."

Ol' Mack: "Back in my day they played a fundamentally sound, intellectual game, these days they are letting even black people play :facepalm "

Minneapolis Post: "We lost our team to politics but we still have five, get that, FIVE, world championships, and the GOAT player. In a hundred years they'll be talking about him :applause: "

Grandpa Cork: "Bob cousy is a shame to the game he is palming every time he touches the ball, back in my day he'd be called for travelling. Every. Single. Play"

BostonDynasty: "Bill Russell is the GOAT. Wilt puts up empty stats"
Wilt20000: "Wilt Chamberlain represents black excellence"

Wilt Fan: "Wilt chamberlain has the most pleasing physique and demeanor, I had a wonderful night with him playing cards while the wife was out of town, I put many posters of him working out in my sons room. Little Lazaruss is already a fan!"

Minny Lakers: "I can't believe people actually think that these young black players like russell or chamberlain can even dream to accomplish mikan's fundamentals. Chamberlain is a loser and russell is a role player at best"

WiltGOAT " Bill russell is a role player, he can't even score 20 points."
RussellGoat "How does 11 rings ring you chocker? There's winners and then there's WILTing under pressure. Get that? Wilting :roll: "

[Lebronxrings]

meh i don't think anyone sane actually believes that 60s players would compete today. Maybe against my local high school around the area sure.

[Marchesk]

meh i don't think anyone sane actually believes that 60s players would compete today. Maybe against my local high school around the area sure.

How would a lineup of the following players in their prime not compete in any era against any starting five?

Oscar
West
Baylor
Gus Johnson
Wilt

You have playmaking, shooting, defense, rebounding, athleticism, size (Other than Gus being a bit short at PF, but he provides spacing with Wilt).

[sundizz]

How would a lineup of the following players in their prime not compete in any era against any starting five?

Oscar
West
Baylor
Gus Johnson
Wilt

You have playmaking, shooting, defense, rebounding, athleticism, size (Other than Gus being a bit short at PF, but he provides spacing with Wilt).

This is literally what you don't understand about simple logic. Just because they are hall of famers/amazing in their time doesn't mean that they would be that way in the modern era. They could be - but we really don't know. So to say someone like Gus Johnson would be a beast today/even in the NBA is completely out of touch with reality.

There are a 1,000+ Gus Johnson physique players in this era that tried to make the NBA in this era and didn't (and he may be another of them in this era). In his era, there weren't too many people like that trying to make the NBA (note I didn't say they didn't exist, just that the exposure/etc was different).

[Stu Jackson]

pro basketball was not as popular as baseball boxing and hockey in the 60s

it didnt take off until the merger and doctor j made flying cool

[swagga]

How would a lineup of the following players in their prime not compete in any era against any starting five?

Oscar
West
Baylor
Gus Johnson
Wilt

You have playmaking, shooting, defense, rebounding, athleticism, size (Other than Gus being a bit short at PF, but he provides spacing with Wilt).

put a man on west and play zone. spacing :lol , that team will build you a house of bricks in no time :facepalm

[swagga]

This is literally what you don't understand about simple logic. Just because they are hall of famers/amazing in their time doesn't mean that they would be that way in the modern era. They could be - but we really don't know. So to say someone like Gus Johnson would be a beast today/even in the NBA is completely out of touch with reality.

There are a 1,000+ Gus Johnson physique players in this era that tried to make the NBA in this era and didn't (and he may be another of them in this era). In his era, there weren't too many people like that trying to make the NBA (note I didn't say they didn't exist, just that the exposure/etc was different).

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[LAZERUSS]

https://instagram.com/p/6xTarWowwy/

Being in the top .03% (99.97% worse) - current

vs

Being in the top .50% (99.50% worse) - 60's

In case you don't understand how huge a difference this is, take a look at the richest 200 people and then take a look at the next richest 201-2000 people.

Without even checking, I'd guess the combined value of those first 200 is way more than the combined value of the next 1800.

That's the difference talent pool makes.

Edit: Right, 99.97, i mindlessly copied it from the instagram. Funny that it is promoting academics lol.

What a refreshingly new topic.

Yep, today's players are far superior.

For instance, compare the skill sets of the towering 6-9 1/2 centers of today (Dwight, DJ, and Drummond)...to those of the 60's (and 70's...since many of them were playing high school and college ball in the 60's)...guys the 6-11 (and likely 7-0) Bellamy, 6-9 Reed, 6-9 McAdoo, 6-9 1/2 Hayes, 6-11 Lanier, 7-0 Walton, 6-9 Cowens, 7-2 Gilmore, 7-2 Kareem, 7-1+ Wilt...

Here is footage of a HIGH SCHOOL and COLLEGE Kareem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfkalgtZraE

and how about McAdoo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4vbr-280Q



Compare the great 6-3 Rubio with the 6-5 Pistol...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV1G-hsg6rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ


And can someone here explain how this 6-7 3/4 white guy could run away with a rpg title (and in only 35 mpg) just a few years ago, and was a 26-12 guy a couple of years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TnbhJr8iY


And how about this guy winning B2B MVPs...

http://morethan-stats.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/prepnash2.jpg


Maybe you can explain why the NBA shot .756 from the FT line in 1959, and .771 from the line in '74, and only .750 from the line this past year.


Skills?

How about these kids back in 1962...(which, BTW, were being copied from the Globetrotters from the 50's...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soLH6bau9uo


Yep...with this "globalization" that we have witnessed in the last 20 years, where are all of the 7-0 Magics? And how does a clown like Dellavedova not only make a roster, but starts in the Finals (and then proceed to shoot .286 in them)?

I'm sorry to break this news to you...but the game of basketball was invented in the 1890's, and by the end of that century, colleges were playing it. And there were professional teams as far back as the 1920's.

Furthermore, aside from the 24 second clock, and the 3pt shot, and many very minor rule changes along the way...the game is essentially being played exactly the same way as when it was invented. Same size court dimensions, same size hoop, same size ball, and same number of players.

And this is NOT a complicated game, either. Hell, kids as young as 4-5 years old are playing it. It involves dribbling, passing, shooting, rebounding, and defense.

And don't tell me that defenses are much better today, either. A full-time Nate Thurmond was holding a peak Kareem to .447 shooting in their 34 career H2H's, with a high game of 34 points. A 38-39 year old KAJ averaged 32 ppg on a .630 FG% against Hakeem, which included games of 40, 43, and 46 points (and in only 37 minutes.) Oh, and a PEAK Shaq's career high game against Hakeem (an aging Hakeem BTW)...37 points.

But then, maybe some here believe that Hakeem couldn't make an NBA roster today, either. Because, obviously the game has changed so much more in the last 20 years.

[senelcoolidge]

After watching some of those videos. I thought to myself. They should ban the 3pt shot for a season or two like they banned the dunk shot when Kareem was in college. That actually benefited Kareem by forcing him to develop a soft show around the basket and improve his hook shot. Banning the 3pt shot or dunk would benefit many of today's players by making them better fundamentally. It would improve their mid range game, driving to the basket, and post game.
Also McAdoo was a stronger and better Durant.

[Marchesk]

Kyle Korver would have to go play in Europe without a 3 pt shot.

[jongib369]

Kyle Korver would have to go play in Europe without a 3 pt shot.
The H. V. Porter Films: 1932 to 1936 IHSA Boys Basketball Tournaments
Introduction (2:50, near half court shots were "common")
https://youtu.be/3Xutjhk-KD8

Footage
https://youtu.be/79JcZkpw_SY



Maybe not, as a lot of coaches from the era would of played around the time in the links above. If he time traveled as is a coach might be willing to work it in the game plan. Guys like him with the 3 or not would have a place.

If he grew up then? Well like now it's not like a lot of today's centers are completely oblivious to playing with their back to the backet...It's just not the basketball culture atm. He could of ended up realizing he has a great outside shot and developed it then too. Whether it be a little closer to the hoop, or further it'd benifit a lot of the bigs who played then.

[AnaheimLakers24]

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