Why do Liberals care more about illegals than aborted babies?

[Patrick Chewing]

It seems to me, that Liberals want to offer more rights to Illegal Aliens, then babies who are not wanted by their mothers? They rather kill the baby inside the womb (an American baby mind you), and instead help an Illegal Alien establish essentially, "a new life" here in America.

I'm sure the baby wants to live too, but why is there a double-standard? Why are Liberals more supportive of someone who has had the chance to live, rather than being supportive of someone who was never given the chance?

How does that compute to them? Liberals of ISH, please explain this rationale.

[KnittingRyu]

"Fetus." Also, by "birth" laws they are not citizens yet, so they aren't Americans.

It mostly comes down to choice of people. Mothers can make choices, and babies cannot.

[Patrick Chewing]

It mostly comes down to choice of people. Mothers can make choices, and babies cannot.


This is hogwash. Fetus = Baby. Same thing. Just because it hasn't been pushed out of the cooch doesn't mean it is not a living, breathing human.

So what you're saying is, that humans who were pushed out of the cooch or taken out by C-section have rights, but humans who are still within the embryonic sac do not? How does that make any sense?

[KnittingRyu]

This is hogwash. Fetus = Baby. Same thing. Just because it hasn't been pushed out of the cooch doesn't mean it is not a living, breathing human.

So what you're saying is, that humans who were pushed out of the cooch or taken out by C-section have rights, but humans who are still within the embryonic sac do not? How does that make any sense?

First they don't breath. Personally, I'm against abortions once brain waves start. Before that, they only meet the criteria of human based on DNA cells. My hair has DNA cells too, but I don't mourn it every time it is cut.

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[SugarHill]

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[Dresta]

Because they love their comfortable bourgeois bohemian existences with a passion, largely propped up by the cheap labour of foreigners. For some, cheap blueberries are more important than human beings - this sort of person often sees himself as a moralist, a righteous man who does 'his bit' for society as well. These little self-important cogs in the machinery of an all-powerful overseer - the Federal superstate - only ever shill for their master, Lord and Saviour, and he cares not about massacred human babies, only the GDP stat and keeping his subjects contented enough to continue living the lives of dullards, and to keep toiling away in their little specialised boxes - only this is important.

We all add together to create a mighty whole - America as beehive!

[nathanjizzle]

because illegals are actually living humans.

[Patrick Chewing]

because illegals are actually living humans.


So the baby inside the womb is operating on batteries? How is the blood flowing through their veins? How is their heart beating?


So with your logic, it all comes down to the moment that v@gina opens wide? That's what I keep telling my girlfriend! She doesn't understand it all boils down to the V!

[NumberSix]

They don't actually.

The best reason I've heard so far for their pro-illegal stance is "I don't want to pay too much for blueberries". These people have no moral or legal reasoning. They simply enjoy the benefit of the borderline slave labor. They have the same moral standing as people who would argue "well, we need the cotton, and we don't want it to be too expensive".

[nathanjizzle]

So the baby inside the womb is operating on batteries? How is the blood flowing through their veins? How is their heart beating?


So with your logic, it all comes down to the moment that v@gina opens wide? That's what I keep telling my girlfriend! She doesn't understand it all boils down to the V!

the "baby" (you cant call a fetus a baby) isnt actually "operating" it is still being created by the mother host. being created and "operating" are 2 different things. Its heart only beats through its mother. if the mother wasnt alive, that heart doesnt beat.

[Patrick Chewing]

the "baby" (you cant call a fetus a baby) isnt actually "operating" it is still being created by the mother host. being created and "operating" are 2 different things. Its heart only beats through its mother. if the mother wasnt alive, that heart doesnt beat.


Interesting. So Liberals believe that the fetus baby is part of the woman's body, therefore killing the fetus baby is her right. Mind you, the other co-creator of said fetus baby (the father) has no rights. So it's the equivalent of cutting a finger or a limb off then? Just another appendage I didn't need. Knowing full well that if I removed said appendage by C-section or natural child birth, that the appendage would be a living, breathing human being capable of self-consciousness. But I, the mother, have the power over this human being, the power to snuff it out so long as said appendage is inside of me.

Fantastic.

[DukeDelonte13]

Small Government! (except when it's about reproduction)

No Welfare! (but still want people to have babies they can't support)

Christian values! (except when it comes to poor people and immigrants)


:confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

Small Government! (except when it's about reproduction)
Nobody is trying to regulate reproduction.


No Welfare! (but still want people to have babies they can't support)
Nobody "wants" people to have babies. That's a personal decision. If you choose to get pregnant, that's your choice.


Christian values! (except when it comes to poor people and immigrants)

The government is secular, not Christian.


:confusedshrug:
Yes! you certainly are very confused.

[KingBeasley08]

Fetuses are garbage parasites living off of the host.
This. That fetus needs to pick itself up from its bootstraps and stop leeching off the mother

[KnittingRyu]

They don't actually.

The best reason I've heard so far for their pro-illegal stance is "I don't want to pay too much for blueberries". These people have no moral or legal reasoning. They simply enjoy the benefit of the borderline slave labor. They have the same moral standing as people who would argue "well, we need the cotton, and we don't want it to be too expensive".

Are you shitting me? First, I have never heard that argument from a liberal before. Second, the liberals pushing for citizenship of illegals would actually raise the price of fruit. The price is actually kept down by keeping them illegal so you don't have to pay them minimum wage, which keeping them illegal is a conservative take on the issue.

[longtime lurker]

Why do conservatives care about a fetus but no give a shit about the kid once they're born?

[TheMan]

Nobody is trying to regulate reproduction.
Making a woman to carry out a pregnancy she doesn't want is in fact, regulating reproduction by taking away her choice to reproduce or not.


Nobody "wants" people to have babies. That's a personal decision. If you choose to get pregnant, that's your choice.
But you're trying to her choice of having a baby or not. Then you conveniently try to weasel your way out of helping a poor mother raise her kid.



The government is secular, not Christian.
Tell that to the rabid Religious Right.


Yes! you certainly are very confused.
Mayhaps you are too

[KNOW1EDGE]

The Man- you have a very pathetic way of looking at things.

Are you constantly a victim? Is your life unfair? Is it other people's fault? I thought so.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why do conservatives care about a fetus but no give a shit about the kid once they're born?


:facepalm


LOL, that makes no sense. You're struggling tonight.

[TheMan]

The Man- you have a very pathetic way of looking at things.

Are you constantly a victim? Is your life unfair? Is it other people's fault? I thought so.
And you're a moron if you think I'm a victim. When the **** did I claim to be one :confusedshrug: YOU THINK I'm a victim (of whatI have no idea). I THINK you're a dumbass, fair?

[longtime lurker]

:facepalm


LOL, that makes no sense. You're struggling tonight.

You're a latino that wishes he was white. You've even gone as far as to post a pic of a white guy claiming its you. Your whole existence is a struggle :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

You're a latino that wishes he was white. You've even gone as far as to post a pic of a white guy claiming its you. Your whole existence is a struggle :lol


Que dios te bendiga. Mira hijo, preguntale a tu madre si anoche yo era latino o gringo? Hijo de la gran puta.


Cheers!

[G-Funk]

I like how this douchebag refers to immigrant people as "illegal Aliens" and not human beings. Just trying to dehumanize them to make his point.

[longtime lurker]

Que dios te bendiga. Mira hijo, preguntale a tu madre si anoche yo era latino o gringo? Hijo de la gran puta.


Cheers!

No amount of yo mama jokes will wash away your self hate. How does it feel knowing that no matter how much you try to white wash yourself you'll never be accepted by those right wing loonies you love to worship.

[DonDadda59]

Fetuses are garbage parasites living off of the host.

Exactly. Tell those fetuses to get jobs and be contributing members of society or they're ass is grass. F*ck that socialist, parasitic bullshit. This is America, Jack.

And OP, you're committing genocide every time you ma$turbate you sic f*ck.

My question is- why do conservatives care more about African lions than African people? :confusedshrug:

[senelcoolidge]

Well babies aren't going to vote and keep them in power. Illegals will be happy with handouts and vote for the phoney liberals.

[TripleA]

Im pretty sure their are conservatives that are pro-choice but for all conservative things. Also liberals that are pro-life.

[RidonKs]

Exactly. Tell those fetuses to get jobs and be contributing members of society or they're ass is grass. F*ck that socialist, parasitic bullshit. This is America, Jack.

And OP, you're committing genocide every time you ma$turbate you sic f*ck.

My question is- why do conservatives care more about African lions than African people? :confusedshrug:
:lol

[NumberSix]

Why do conservatives care about a fetus but no give a shit about the kid once they're born?
I don't think conservatives think you should be able to kill those kids either.


I like how this douchebag refers to immigrant people as "illegal Aliens" and not human beings. Just trying to dehumanize them to make his point.
"Alien" is the proper legal term.


In law, an alien is a person in a country who is not a national of that country


an illegal alien is a non-citizen who is present in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization.[2] This could be because they overstayed their welcome or they slipped through the border undetected.

[NumberSix]

You're a latino that wishes he was white. You've even gone as far as to post a pic of a white guy claiming its you. Your whole existence is a struggle :lol
Maybe he is white. You know, white Latinos do exist.



But you're trying to her choice of having a baby or not.
If she's pregnant, hasn't that decision already been made? :confusedshrug:

I'm not an extremist. I don't care if a woman aborts an embryo. But when you get to the point that it has organs and brain activity, that's a person.

[TheMan]

Maybe he is white. You know, white Latinos do exist.


If she's pregnant, hasn't that decision already been made? :confusedshrug:

I'm not an extremist. I don't care if a woman aborts an embryo. But when you get to the point that it has organs and brain activity, that's a person.
Not really because not everyone has sex for reproduction reasons only, some actually look at sex as a recreational activity!

I'm also anti abortion, but as a dude, I can't impose my viewpoint on the gender that actually lives with the real life consequences of an unwanted pregnancy.

[Coach Eddie]

Why do liberals care more about illegals than aborted babies? Uh, maybe because aborted babies are already dead and illegals still have a chance at a happy life. :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

I like how this douchebag refers to immigrant people as "illegal Aliens" and not human beings. Just trying to dehumanize them to make his point.


An illegal alien is a human being though. They're illegally in this country. And they're alien (meaning foreign).

Simple to understand.

[UK2K]

I like how this douchebag refers to immigrant people as "illegal Aliens" and not human beings. Just trying to dehumanize them to make his point.

That's what they are.


Also known as an "Undocumented Alien," is an alien who has entered the United States illegally and is deportable if apprehended, or an alien who entered the United States legally but who has fallen "out of status" and is deportable.

Per the IRS.

Illegal. Aliens.

[Dresta]

Small Government! (except when it's about reproduction)

No Welfare! (but still want people to have babies they can't support)

Christian values! (except when it comes to poor people and immigrants)


:confusedshrug:
See, this is the sort of nonsense people come up with when they don't actually read contrary opinion, but get all their information regarding it, from people with whom they already agree. You lap up and parrot these recycled and simplistic opinions in respect to viewpoints that you have no real knowledge of, or experience regarding, and as a consequence, you never make any effort to actually understand or engage with them. A person like this cannot have their opinion changed, because they aren't open to logic and reasoning: they are set on seeing the world a certain way, and barely even question the preconceived opinions that have been stamped on their minds.

Small government? Protecting life is one of the most basic functions of any state; there's nothing 'big' about it.

Welfare provides an incentive to behave in a reckless and self-destructive manner, for the sake of short-term ease and gain. Most conservatives don't have a problem with providing a basic safety net; they have a problem with the positive incentivising of reckless and irresponsible behaviour.

Christians believe that actions have consequences, and that bearing those consequences is part of life. Life is a struggle, not a stroll - strife and hardship can be character building, whereas luxury and self-indulgence are dissipating. I see nothing in Christian teaching that suggests the law should not be respected, nor anything that says the poor should be granted luxuries and indulgences without making sacrifices.

'If you don't work, you don't eat' is an age-old Christian maxim.

[Trollsmasher]

Exactly. Tell those fetuses to get jobs and be contributing members of society or they're ass is grass. F*ck that socialist, parasitic bullshit. This is America, Jack.

And OP, you're committing genocide every time you ma$turbate you sic f*ck.

My question is- why do conservatives care more about African lions than African people? :confusedshrug:
there are more Africans in the world than lions:confusedshrug: