who according to you guys is the best 1-on-1 wing player in the history?

[Rose'sACL]

my vote goes to melo or kd.

Melo just physically rapes you like lebron but at the same time has a way better jumper.

KD is just ridiculous because of his shot making and height advantage to get a clean shot off in any situation. If he stays healthy, kd will go down as the second best scorer after MJ and kareem.

[The_Pharcyde]

MJ
Kobe
KD

[Vaniiiia]

KD

Gap

James
Jordan
Bird
West
Pippen
Wade
Erving

Read the title wrong. LMAO. 1 on 1!

Take Pippen, Erving, and Jordan off the list. The gap is even bigger between KD and the rest now.

[The_Pharcyde]

KD

Gap

James
Jordan
Bird
West
Pippen
Wade
Erving

Read the title wrong. LMAO. 1 on 1!

Take Pippen, Erving, and Jordan off the list. The gap is even bigger between KD and the rest now.


Man......what!?

[AnaheimLakers24]

Kobe jordan and shaq

[iamgine]

Chris Andersen

[LoneyROY7]

KD. Easily.

He's literally impossible to guard. He would ANNIHILATE MJ, Kobe, LeBron, you name it 1v1. They wouldn't stand a chance. His combination of length, size, athleticism, and skill on offense AND defense is just way too much.

[Killbot]

KD. Easily.

He's literally impossible to guard. He would ANNIHILATE MJ, Kobe, LeBron, you name it 1v1. They wouldn't stand a chance. His combination of length, size, athleticism, and skill on offense AND defense is just way too much.

Preach brotha. That's why they call him Big D

[LoneyROY7]

Preach brotha. That's why they call him Big D

Too much length AND girth. :rockon:

[scandisk_]

same bitch dude replying to himself..

retard..

meds time perhaps?

[Vaniiiia]

KD. Easily.

He's literally impossible to guard. He would ANNIHILATE MJ, Kobe, LeBron, you name it 1v1. They wouldn't stand a chance. His combination of length, size, athleticism, and skill on offense AND defense is just way too much.
This.

Factor in his huge member and we're talking most impressive athlete ever, on and off the court.

[DCL]

Kobe jordan and shaq

the criteria was for wing players only.

but shaq would destroy all superstar wing players.

1-on-1 is a totally different game from 5-on-5. and if it's street style 1-on-1 with like NO RULES? so you can back that ass up forever, 20 seconds in the paint, and liberal whistle on offensive fouls?

guarding fugging shaq....would be like trying to stop a truck.

[plowking]

KD.

Guys like Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson isolated on the wing with no help is a great play too btw. I don't think people realize how efficient those guys are when actually given room to work.

CP3 is great too given how easily he bullies guys his size. KD is on another level though. He has that Lebron ability to drive like Bron had back in 09-12, and then he has the dagger shot to go with it that Bron never had. Or anyone really at that size. I legit think he'd beat any NBA player ever in a 1 on 1, given a set amount of games to rule out flukes.

[Coach Eddie]

Given that every few years Jordan goes 1 on 1 with NBA players and wins to this day, I have a hard time imagining him losing in his prime.

[sekachu]

KD. Easily.

He's literally impossible to guard. He would ANNIHILATE MJ, Kobe, LeBron, you name it 1v1. They wouldn't stand a chance. His combination of length, size, athleticism, and skill on offense AND defense is just way too much.




You can't be serious? I might agree MJ can't guard KD because of his height but KD can't guard MJ too because MJ is more quicker, agile and explosive.

[JohnMax]

KD lacks an elite first step which automatically disqualifies him.

[Mike Armstrong]

MJ

Yarp.

[poido123]

OP still hasn't worked out who the best wing in history is yet?


Slow muthafckers :hammerhead:

[nzahir]

Kd over Mj because mj cant shoot the 3 too well and kd is 6'10-6'11.
Lebron up here somewhere too, no help defense and a 6'8 250 muscular guy backing down any wing guy is going to be hard to stop.

[Vaniiiia]

Well, looks like KD is the general consensus here.

Only people that disagree are retarded/biased MJ stans. They don't really count.

KD consensus best 1vs1 wing of all time just means he's that much closer to being GOAT player.

1 or 2 rings and maybe one more MVP should do it.

[swagga]

KD.

Guys like Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson isolated on the wing with no help is a great play too btw. I don't think people realize how efficient those guys are when actually given room to work.

CP3 is great too given how easily he bullies guys his size. KD is on another level though. He has that Lebron ability to drive like Bron had back in 09-12, and then he has the dagger shot to go with it that Bron never had. Or anyone really at that size. I legit think he'd beat any NBA player ever in a 1 on 1, given a set amount of games to rule out flukes.

anybody that can get to the rim easily and has a large strength and size advantage will easily win in 1v1.

bron/prime josh smith/ peak artest/ peak pierce would all beat kd handily. That's how 1v1 is. KD can't defend a stronger player.

[G0ATbe]

Kobe, KD

[PistonsFan#21]

anybody that can get to the rim easily and has a large strength and size advantage will easily win in 1v1.

bron/prime josh smith/ peak artest/ peak pierce would all beat kd handily. That's how 1v1 is. KD can't defend a stronger player.


:oldlol:

None of those guys could guard KD, especially with no help defense

[La Frescobaldi]

Kobe Bryant #8 or George Gervin. Pete Maravich maybe.

Kevin Urant will do good only as long as he has the ball. I don't know that he can beat Nate Archibald in a game of 1on1 if Tiny gets the ball first. I doubt he could.


edit ~ and nobody even brought up Iverson

[PistonsFan#21]

Kobe Bryant #8 or George Gervin. Pete Maravich maybe.

Kevin Urant will do good only as long as he has the ball. I don't know that he can beat Nate Archibald in a game of 1on1 if Tiny gets the ball first. I doubt he could.


edit ~ and nobody even brought up Iverson

:facepalm

How is Iverson gonna guard guys that are a foot taller than him and outweigh him by 70-80lbs?

[Dro]

Is this a joke thread? Was it made just to purposely leave MJ out? Is this one of THOSE threads? Or is this a serious question?

[La Frescobaldi]

:facepalm

How is Iverson gonna guard guys that are a foot taller than him and outweigh him by 70-80lbs?
How is Urant going to stop Allen Iverson when JJ Barea has been destroying his defense for years?

[La Frescobaldi]

Is this a joke thread? Was it made just to purposely leave MJ out? Is this one of THOSE threads? Or is this a serious question?
It is exactly that man.... but the matchup of all match ups to me would be Kobe8 vs. MJ '87.
That might be the most unsettled question there is... out on the wing

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

MJ and KD are up there. Same with Kobe.

I think Durant would win nearly half the games he played with MJ depending on the rules. If they're allowed to play physical, Mike is taking Bean and Reaper's lunch without hesitation or pity.

Orlando/peak Laker Shaq is probably the greatest 1-on-1 player though.

[magnax1]

Kobe or Jordan. People saying KD would annihilate Jordan need to go back and look at how quick Jordan was. If Jordan got a chance to shoot itd be all over. KD is isnt even close to quick enough to guard Jordan one on one. Hed gst to the hole every time or have an easy jumpshot if KD laid off him. Jordan would have a much easier time guarding KD than the other way around. Hell, Tony Allen guarded KD as well as anyone and hes like 6'2

[PistonsFan#21]

How is Urant going to stop Allen Iverson when JJ Barea has been destroying his defense for years?

Ok lets be serious here...are you trying to argue that Iverson has a better chance of slowing down Durant than the other way around?

This is KD effortlessly draining jumpers on one of the best defenders in the league in Paul George: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Wc71FrhXQ

Also how was JJ Barea destroying Durants defense for years. Give me even 2 clips of Barea scoring on Durant 1v1 without the help of a screen

[La Frescobaldi]

Ok lets be serious here...are you trying to argue that Iverson has a better chance of slowing down Durant than the other way around?

This is KD effortlessly draining jumpers on one of the best defenders in the league in Paul George: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Wc71FrhXQ

Also how was JJ Barea destroying Durants defense for years. Give me even 2 clips of Barea scoring on Durant 1v1 without the help of a screen

I'm sorry man I am trolling somewhat about KD (although JJ does have his way a lot check out some of his YouTube highlight clips several are him scorching and torching KD)

the dude from OKC is one of the elite all-time for a fact even though his defense is truly weaker than it can be AND needs to be better

[lilteapot]

It's Jordan followed by Kobe

[SamuraiSWISH]

Once again out of guys I've seen ... MJ, Kobe, Durant, Iverson, McGrady and Melo.

[PistonsFan#21]

Once again out of guys I've seen ... MJ, Kobe, Durant, Iverson, McGrady and Melo.

You seriously got a guy like Iverson in there? No disrespect to him, like many players said hes pound for pound one of the greatest players of all time, but we are talking about 1v1 here.

How are you gonna put him up there over a guy like Lebron? We've seen Lebron being able to guard guys like Westbrook, Rose, Curry, etc on some possessions. There is however no way whatsoever for Iverson to stop Lebron from backing him down/ driving. If James was to start with the ball he would probably win that game 11-0.

I would even take a player like Wade in a 1v1 with Iverson. The size difference is just that big of a factor.

[Stu Jackson]

mj
tmac
kd

[Cold soul]

Jordan with Kobe being close second.

[bizil]

SG- MJ, Kobe, T Mac, Gervin
SF- Melo, Bernard King, Durant, Nique

[DaHeezy]

No mention of Magic? He's a mismatch machine and probably the greatest post up gaurd of all time.

[SamuraiSWISH]

You seriously got a guy like Iverson in there? No disrespect to him, like many players said hes pound for pound one of the greatest players of all time, but we are talking about 1v1 here.

How are you gonna put him up there over a guy like Lebron? We've seen Lebron being able to guard guys like Westbrook, Rose, Curry, etc on some possessions. There is however no way whatsoever for Iverson to stop Lebron from backing him down/ driving. If James was to start with the ball he would probably win that game 11-0.

I would even take a player like Wade in a 1v1 with Iverson. The size difference is just that big of a factor.I meant like no one could guard him in an ISO situation within the actual game.

AI was a better scorer than Westbrook, Rose, and Curry. You know that, right?

In terms of actual one on one game. Yes I'd agree. And the guys you mentioned are IMO just a notch below offensively in terms of one on one scoring than the guys I mentioned. LeBron, Wade along with guys like Nique, Pierce, VC, Barkley, King; etc are a tier below.

[ArbitraryWater]

I meant like no one could guard him in an ISO situation within the actual game.

AI was a better scorer than Westbrook, Rose, and Curry. You know that, right?

In terms of actual one on one game. Yes I'd agree. And the guys you mentioned are IMO just a notch below offensively in terms of one on one scoring than the guys I mentioned. LeBron, Wade along with guys like Nique, Pierce, VC, Barkley, King; etc are a tier below.

no

[SamuraiSWISH]

no
Very much yes. You weren't old enough to have even see Iverson. So there is no point attempting to discuss this with you.

Tell you this, Delladova wouldn't be locking up prime Iverson for half a series.

Are you serious right now?

The current league and Golden State's offensive system and pace plays into Curry's career high 24 to 25 ppg.

Iverson would be at 30 ppg on 45% from the field at least in this league. AI scored way more volume in a physically tougher and slower era. He's obviously the superior scorer to Curry. Not necessarily the better shooter.

[sd3035]

my vote goes to melo or kd.

Melo just physically rapes you like lebron but at the same time has a way better jumper.

KD is just ridiculous because of his shot making and height advantage to get a clean shot off in any situation. If he stays healthy, kd will go down as the second best scorer after MJ and kareem.

counting to three is hard

http://www.r-word.org/uploadedImages/r-word/Home_Page/640x360_Frank2.jpg

[swagga]

:oldlol:

None of those guys could guard KD, especially with no help defense

lol son. 1v1 = size + handles. kd ain't gonna hit all his jumpers. as soon as a guy that can post him up consistently gets the ball it's game over for skinny durant. That's 1v1.

peak josh smith has the size strength athleticism and handles to be a goat 1v1 player.
peak artest is one of the goat perimeter defenders and is build like a house of bricks, he'll bully durant.
peak pierce has probably the smoothest post game, a decent defender (guarded both lebron and kobe decently) and is also stronger than durant.

you know nothing about 1v1, as 95% of the other guys posting in this thread.

lol mj, tmac, and other skinny dudes valuable in 5v5. 1v1 they'd get destroyed.

GOAT 1v1: shaq, kareem, duncan, david robinson.
they'd mop the floor with all the jordans/kobes/lebrons in a 1v1. it's enough for a wing to miss ONE shot, they ain't getting the ball back. You can search youtube for kareem destroying doc 1v1, kareem being also older. You can also search for training camp stories of random scrubs destroying 1v1. It's just another type of game.

this thread :roll: y'all nigggas ain't even touched a ball in your life.

[3ball]

:facepalm

[3ball]

KD. Easily.


Here's how a 1-on-1 game would go between MJ and Durant:

MJ gets ball first because he has seniority... He scores 3 straight buckets, all going to the hole, all out of the triple-threat, including a blow-by poster.. Durant gets a stop on MJ's 4th attempt..

3-0

Durant hits a bailout jumper.. 3-1... Durant hits another bailout jumper... 3-2... Durant misses a bailout jumper... MJ gets ball and scores 3 more times in the same fashion as the first 3.

6-2

Durant gets the ball and hits a bailout jumper... 6-3... Durant hits another bailout jumper.. 6-4... Durant misses bailout jumper.

MJ gets ball... Durant plays off him now because of the previous 6 drives to the rack... MJ starts draining jumper after jumper... Durant hits a couple more bailouts in between, but the game ends 11-6 in MJ's favor.

Bailout jumpshots aren't going to beat MJ.. Period... There's a TON Of guys that would play MJ better 1-on-1... Bird, Dantley, King, English, Vandeweghe - just a ton of guys that were experts on the post and from the triple-threat, so they didn't need bailouts shots as their primary offense like Durant.

[knicksman]

Very much yes. You weren't old enough to have even see Iverson. So there is no point attempting to discuss this with you.

Tell you this, Delladova wouldn't be locking up prime Iverson for half a series.

Are you serious right now?

The current league and Golden State's offensive system and pace plays into Curry's career high 24 to 25 ppg.

Iverson would be at 30 ppg on 45% from the field at least in this league. AI scored way more volume in a physically tougher and slower era. He's obviously the superior scorer to Curry. Not necessarily the better shooter.

Theres a reason why curry can win but ai cant. Because the shorter you are, the more important having a jumpshot is. Its easier to stop ai than curry because he is paint dependent like bran. Meanwhile curry doesnt need the paint. Hes even guarded like shaq in the 3pt line and you think ai is a better scorer. Ai could only dream of winning 67 in a tough conference coz hes too easy to stop

[eliteballer]

Durant's tall but the speed of the smaller guys(especially their lateral quickness) would give him a lot of problems.

[Vaniiiia]

"Bailout" shots...

Here's the thing. THEY'RE NOT BAIL OUT SHOTS.

If Jordan was taking those shots then yes... that would be a bailout. Because he's not close to the shooter KD is.

For KD those aren't bailout shots, they're ****ing layups. That's the point here... we're dealing with the most unique and gifted player in the history of the sport. Jordan was good, but KD is just downright scary.

It's not even a fair match up. Durant wins 10 times out of 10.