Is Manu Ginobili top 10 SG all time?

[keep-itreal]

Is he top 10 sg all time?

[Vaniiiia]

IDK if he's top 10

But I'd take Manu over Iverson, Maravich, Miller, McGrady, Allen, Carter...

guys who probably end up higher than Manu on a lot of lists.

Manu is a legend.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Yea, duncan had stacked teams since 03

[rmt]

IDK if he's top 10

But I'd take Manu over Iverson, Maravich, Miller, McGrady, Allen, Carter...

guys who probably end up higher than Manu on a lot of lists.

Manu is a legend.

A lot of the players you listed are franchise players. Manu has averaged over 30 minutes only twice in his career: 30.3 and 31.1 mins. - don't think you want so few minutes production from a franchise player. He's well suited to the 6th man role - because he comes in ready to produce - going full speed ahead but fizzles if he plays too long.

When he's tired, he's made some devastatingly boneheaded moves that have cost the Spurs big time - Dirk's foul and rushing to the basket against 3 Heat players. He is also fragile, injury-prone, and takes a LONG time to get back into rhythm.

But there aren't many players I would take over Manu for one play at the end of the game. He is clutch, bold, aggressive, sometimes crazy and full of HEART and guts. Great team mate too and some of those passes, oh-la-la :applause:

[Sarcastic]

IDK if he's top 10

But I'd take Manu over Iverson, Maravich, Miller, McGrady, Allen, Carter...

guys who probably end up higher than Manu on a lot of lists.

Manu is a legend.

You can take him over those guys if you have Duncan on your team. If not, you take them over Manu every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[guy]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
West
Drexler
Iverson
T-Mac
Miller
Ray
Vince

All better

[Rocketswin2013]

As a talent, definitely. But there are simply players who had bigger roles and did good at them. Manu was better as a third option than Ray Allen or Vince Carter were as first options, and he was better on a per possession basis than a guy like Iverson. But the amount of possessions and workload does matter, and his was smaller than other guys.

[Just2McFly]

IDK if he's top 10

But I'd take Manu over Iverson, Maravich, Miller, McGrady, Allen, Carter...

guys who probably end up higher than Manu on a lot of lists.

Manu is a legend.
MODS, ban this fool.

Manu is a legend for getting carried to titles. GTFO here b.

[midatlantic09]

The correct answer: No.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I don't even think Reggie Miller is in the top 10.

[Lebronxrings]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
West
Drexler
Iverson
T-Mac
Miller
Ray
Vince

All better
bolded are debatable. i think manus better than miller, ray, vince. Hes better than west for sure today, and might be better than wade.

[QuebecBaller]

IDK if he's top 10

But I'd take Manu over Iverson, Maravich, Miller, McGrady, Allen, Carter...

guys who probably end up higher than Manu on a lot of lists.

Manu is a legend.

You're 8 years old right?

[kennethgriffin]

HOF ranking on BBR.com


#1 Michael Jordan 1.0000
#2 Kobe Bryant 1.0000
#3 Jerry West 1.0000
#4 Dwyane Wade 0.9999
#5 Allen Iverson 0.9998
#6 Sam Jones 0.9995
#7 Ray Allen 0.9987
#8 Clyde Drexler 0.9978
#9 Hal Greer 0.9974
#10 Bill Sharman 0.9970

HM George Gervin 0.9787



this is probably closer to the truth than most would like to believe.




people seem to only be able to name guys from the 90's


the IQ of this forum is sh*t


:oldlol:

[Fallen Angel]

Hal Greer:

NBA champion (1967)
10

[ShawkFactory]

It's easy to say no but looking at him as a player? If he had his own team from the start it's very possible that he could have been

[KnittingRyu]

bolded are debatable. i think manus better than miller, ray, vince. Hes better than west for sure today, and might be better than wade.
:biggums:

[Fallen Angel]

I classify Allen Iverson as a PG when doing my All-Time list. Either way, Manu Ginobili is a Top 15 SG All-Time when you factor in his accomplishments oversees, which is impressive for player who is a career sixth man in the NBA.

[zeerghit]

MODS, ban this fool.

Manu is a legend for getting carried to titles. GTFO here b.

retard. end of story.

[WayOfWade]

HOF ranking on BBR.com


#1 Michael Jordan 1.0000
#2 Kobe Bryant 1.0000
#3 Jerry West 1.0000
#4 Dwyane Wade 0.9999
#5 Allen Iverson 0.9998
#6 Sam Jones 0.9995
#7 Ray Allen 0.9987
#8 Clyde Drexler 0.9978
#9 Hal Greer 0.9974
#10 Bill Sharman 0.9970

HM George Gervin 0.9787



this is probably closer to the truth than most would like to believe.




people seem to only be able to name guys from the 90's


the IQ of this forum is sh*t


:oldlol:
This seems like the most correct comment so far. The order of the top 10 is very good; not quite sure how the ranking system goes, but seeming like a Hall of Fame likeliness chart, I'd say it's pretty good. Jordan, Kobe, and West are a very good top 3 with Wade being the only challenger to West's 3 spot. The only one I'm not sure about is Sam Jones, that due to me being young and never seeing him play or reading too much about him. Good post though :cheers:

[KnittingRyu]

HOF ranking on BBR.com


#1 Michael Jordan 1.0000
#2 Kobe Bryant 1.0000
#3 Jerry West 1.0000
#4 Dwyane Wade 0.9999
#5 Allen Iverson 0.9998
#6 Sam Jones 0.9995
#7 Ray Allen 0.9987
#8 Clyde Drexler 0.9978
#9 Hal Greer 0.9974
#10 Bill Sharman 0.9970

HM George Gervin 0.9787



this is probably closer to the truth than most would like to believe.




people seem to only be able to name guys from the 90's


the IQ of this forum is sh*t


:oldlol:

Of the players I'm more familiar with, this looks pretty accurate.

[SHAQisGOAT]

On the all-time list? Probably so, has a great case at least.

In terms of peaks/primes? Don't think so... For consideration, you got dudes like Jordan, Kobe, West, Wade, Drexler, Gervin, Iverson, Moncrief, T-Mac (if you consider him more of a SG), Pistol Pete, Carter, David Thompson, DJ (more of a SG at his best), Monroe, Westphal, Reggie, Dumars, Richmond...

[ArbitraryWater]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
West
Drexler
Iverson
T-Mac
Miller
Ray
Vince

All better

I'd take Manu over Vince and Miller (lol cmon) easily, also Ray.. T-Mac obviously career wise too, but at his peak (2003) he was better.

[BasedTom]

bolded are debatable. i think manus better than miller, ray, vince. Hes better than west for sure today, and might be better than wade.
:coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

[Vaniiiia]

MODS, ban this fool.

Manu is a legend for getting carried to titles. GTFO here b.
lol, get a life you corny looking homo. You've never played a sport in your life.

Your opinions don't matter here. Ferry's like you don't belong here. Carter couldn't even get "carried to titles" ... let alone lead or be a significant contributor to a championship ring. Iverson? Ha, no way, outside of 2001 where he was carried and allowed to chuck, dude was mainly a cancer and literally prevented teams from ever creating the appropriate atmosphere to win a championship. A gambling, bumbling moron of a man. A cancer in its truest and most lethal form.

Reggie Miller? Ray Allen?

OVER MANU?

Are you ****ing retarded? I guess being sheltered your whole life prevented YOU from ever developing critical thinking skills, or even basic common sense. Your dad should've forced you into joining a sports team or something. You've grown to be such an annoying little punk. And an even bigger loser.

Damn shame.

[Legends66NBA7]

I'd take Manu over Vince and Miller (lol cmon) easily, also Ray.. T-Mac obviously career wise too, but at his peak (2003) he was better.

They were all better at their peak than Manu.

It's hard to define Manu because he never got the chance to lead his own team like the others did. You take Manu over all those guys if he has a situation like he had in SA, which in itself is unique in all sports.

[Legends66NBA7]

lol, get a life you corny looking homo. You've never played a sport in your life.

Your opinions don't matter here. Ferry's like you don't belong here.

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[lilteapot]

bolded are debatable. i think manus better than miller, ray, vince. Hes better than west for sure today, and might be better than wade.
There's no way Manu is better than Wade.

[Lebronxrings]

There's no way Manu is better than Wade.
both have fmvps, and won the ring as the leader and man. Skillwise they're quite similar. Manu beats Wade in terms of longetitvity, wade wins in peak.

[Fallen Angel]

Mods, please do something about the ignorant fools in this forum.

[kennethgriffin]

[QUOTE=Fallen Angel]Hal Greer:

NBA champion (1967)
10

[rmt]

both have fmvps, and won the ring as the leader and man. Skillwise they're quite similar. Manu beats Wade in terms of longetitvity, wade wins in peak.

Are you really comparing the NBA to Euroleague? Manu does not beat Wade in terms of longevity. They are equally talented, but in different ways.

Wade 24.1 pts 36.2 mins/game 12 seasons 28302 RS mins.
Manu 14.3 pts 26.7 mins/game 13 seasons 23135 RS mins.

[TheBigVeto]

Is he top 10 sg all time?

Yes
He is 3rd best after Michael Jordan and John Havlicek.

[r0drig0lac]

Is he top 10 sg all time?
yup, it is certainly better than Vince, Miller and Allen.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

EASILY


On the all-time list? Probably so, has a great case at least.

In terms of peaks/primes? Don't think so... For consideration, you got dudes like Jordan, Kobe, West, Wade, Drexler, Gervin, Iverson, Moncrief, T-Mac (if you consider him more of a SG), Pistol Pete, Carter, David Thompson, DJ (more of a SG at his best), Monroe, Westphal, Reggie, Dumars, Richmond...


05 Manu is better than all of those peaks except the first 4 and TMac was an SF. He was the best player of the playoffs, better than Duncan. Robbed of FMVP mutilated Detroits alltime D, outplayed peak Ray Allen and MVP Nash headtohead. Eviscerated Denver, that is one of the GOAT SG title runs better than any postseason out of anyone there except the first 4

[TheMarkMadsen]

he's difficult to judge on an all time status

[houston]

hell no

[rmt]

EASILY



05 Manu is better than all of those peaks except the first 4 and TMac was an SF. He was the best player of the playoffs, better than Duncan. Robbed of FMVP mutilated Detroits alltime D, outplayed peak Ray Allen and MVP Nash headtohead. Eviscerated Denver, that is one of the GOAT SG title runs better than any postseason out of anyone there except the first 4

Your memory is faulty. 05 (16 pts) is not even Manu's best year - 08 was (19.5 pts).

Do you even check before you spout off nonsense like above. Drexler AVERAGED 20.4 pts over his 15 year career including his rookie year when he averaged 7.7 pts. Gervin AVERAGED 25.1 pts over his 14 year career. Iverson AVERAGED 26.7 pts over his 16 year career. Sidney Moncrief had 5 years where he averaged more than 05 Manu. Pistol Pete AVERAGED 24.2 over his 10 year career. Vince AVERAGED 19.4 (including 5.4 pt last year) over his 18 year career. I'm not even gonna look up the rest.

2004-05
Duncan 20.3 pts / 11.1 rebs / 2.7 asst / 2.6 blks
Parker 16.6 pts / 6.1 asst 48.2%
Manu 16 pts / 3.9 asst

2005 Playoffs
Duncan 23.6 pts / 12.4 rebs / 2.7 asst / 2.3 blks
Manu 20.8 pts / 4.2 asst

And he was not better than Duncan either in the regular season or playoffs especially when considering defense.

[Mike Armstrong]

Is he top 10 sg all time?
Yarp.

[ClipperRevival]

A lot of the players you listed are franchise players. Manu has averaged over 30 minutes only twice in his career: 30.3 and 31.1 mins. - don't think you want so few minutes production from a franchise player. He's well suited to the 6th man role - because he comes in ready to produce - going full speed ahead but fizzles if he plays too long.

When he's tired, he's made some devastatingly boneheaded moves that have cost the Spurs big time - Dirk's foul and rushing to the basket against 3 Heat players. He is also fragile, injury-prone, and takes a LONG time to get back into rhythm.

But there aren't many players I would take over Manu for one play at the end of the game. He is clutch, bold, aggressive, sometimes crazy and full of HEART and guts. Great team mate too and some of those passes, oh-la-la :applause:

Good point about workload and how carrying more of a burden and playing more minutes does affect a player's effectiveness.

[ClipperRevival]

EASILY



05 Manu is better than all of those peaks except the first 4 and TMac was an SF. He was the best player of the playoffs, better than Duncan. Robbed of FMVP mutilated Detroits alltime D, outplayed peak Ray Allen and MVP Nash headtohead. Eviscerated Denver, that is one of the GOAT SG title runs better than any postseason out of anyone there except the first 4

:biggums:

Aren't you going a bit overboard with the Manu love?

[Wally450]

Who would you rather take at age 20, Ray Allen or Manu?

[BIG FURB]

Manu overrated as hell, only reason this is a question is because he was blessed to play with a true alltime great big man his whole career. On a team where he's the main guy he's Latrell Sprewell level at most (which is not a knock, Sprewell was a baaaaad man)

[bizil]

I don't Manu is a top 10 SG peak wise OR GOAT wise. I think he's more of a top 15-20 guy in both aspects. BUT in terms of total all around ability, I think u could make a case that's he's a top 10 SG of all time:

- At his peak, could play and defend PG, SG, and SF
- Great scoring skillset
- Numbers wise, capable of getting 20 points-5 dimes-5 boards

So looking at SG's historically, u won't find many of them who brought all of this to the table. But the two things that hurt Manu's standing are dominance and durability. He CERTAINLY had the tools to be a top 10 SG of all time peak wise and GOAT wise. He was just missing a couple of factors.

[StephHamann]

Vince Carter or Manu?