SI.com's Top 100 NBA Players of 2016 100-51

[Sakkreth]

http://www.si.com/nba/top-100-nba-players-2016

Players that ranked too high imo:

89. Amir Johnson - I like the guy but injuries is part of the game and he can't move for shit due to his back.

74. Splitter - Sooo overrated, helps being a spur I guess... let's see how he does in atl.

70. Tristan Thompson - is this a joke, he's not top 100.

66. Chandler Parsons - lol. Is he even top 120 ?

[KembaWalker]

There was a lot of guys I'd take TT over, I dunno how you think him being top 100 is a joke

[ISHGoat]

Kobe is way too high at 54.

Players (incorrectly) ranked lower than him:
Batum (55)
Luol Deng (56)
Monta Ellis (57)
Tyreke Evans (58)
Jrue Holiday (59)
etc

Im just looking at the immediate 5 players after kobe, and I would take all of those over kobe in a heartbeat. Kobe would not even be a 8th round fantasy draft. The other guys in the 50s are all mid round value.

[West-Side]

Kobe is way too high at 54.

Players (incorrectly) ranked lower than him:
Batum (55)
Luol Deng (56)
Monta Ellis (57)
Tyreke Evans (58)
Jrue Holiday (59)
etc

Im just looking at the immediate 5 players after kobe, and I would take all of those over kobe in a heartbeat. Kobe would not even be a 8th round fantasy draft. The other guys in the 50s are all mid round value.

You're an absolute retard.

[Fallen Angel]

I swear ISH is the only place that tries to make Tristan Thompson out to be some unskilled stiff

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe being a top 60 player is some lol shit

[ISHGoat]

You're an absolute retard.

PM me bro

[KembaWalker]

I swear ISH is the only place that tries to make Tristan Thompson out to be some unskilled stiff

You know the agenda, ALL the players around LeBron can't have talent, that's how great he is :bowdown:

This team wouldn't beat a high-school girls team without LeBron :bowdown:

[fiddy]

Kobe being a top 60 player is some lol shit
Your existence is some lol shit

[T_L_P]

Splitter isn't overrated.

Perhaps he's too high on this list, and there are some guys who deserve to be ahead of him here as his role may well diminish playing next to two All-Star caliber bigs (not just one).

But he's one of the most versatile defenders and a great passer. He was the Spurs best player in their toughest series in the 14 Playoffs. :confusedshrug:

Edit: Tony Parker at 53. :roll:

[ISHGoat]

Splitter isn't overrated.

Perhaps he's too high on this list, and there are some guys who deserve to be ahead of him here as his role may well diminish playing next to two All-Star caliber bigs (not just one).

But he's one of the most versatile defenders and a great passer. He was the Spurs best player in their toughest series in the 14 Playoffs. :confusedshrug:

Edit: Tony Parker at 53. :roll:

I agree, Parker at 53 is an absolute joke, while Splitter is a solid player :cheers:

I expect big things from the ageless men in silver and white this season.

[imdaman99]

Didn't read. Especially seeing everyone mention Kobe at 54. This is some bullshit, when healthy, Kobe is a top 20 player.

[fiddy]

Didn't read. Especially seeing everyone mention Kobe at 54. This is some bullshit, when healthy, Kobe is a top 20 player.
SI is a joke, their last year's list sucked as well

[ISHGoat]

Didn't read. Especially seeing everyone mention Kobe at 54. This is some bullshit, when healthy, Kobe is a top 20 player.

When healthy, kobe will give you something like 20/5/5

on 37%

with junior varsity level defense.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Too low-

Wes Math
DMo
Noel
Taj
Rubio
Kobe
Bogut
Splitter
Gallo
Ryno
TT
Moz

Too high-
Hibbert
Reggie
Wiggins
DWill
Jonas
Parson
Derozan
Parker
Batum

[G0ATbe]

Horrible list as usual.

[HurricaneKid]

TT in top 100 means if all contracts were void and the teams drafted he would be a top 3 player on some team. Which is laughable.

And Kobe at 54... He hasn't been in the top 200 for 3 years now. I'd like to know why he is going to be able to defeat the undefeated father time with his multitude of injuries and wear and tear.

[Sakkreth]

Too low-

Wes Math
DMo agreed
Noel agreed
Taj
Rubio
Kobe too high
Bogut
Splitter way too high
Gallo
Ryno
TT he's too high
Moz he's bit too high not too low

Too high-
Hibbert agreed
Reggie
Wiggins
DWill
Jonas slightly too low
Parson agreed
Derozan
Parker
Batum agreed


you are quite off.

[noob cake]

Dmo = Rockets #2 player this year

The kid is a superstar. He'll be 25 this upcoming month.

[WayOfWade]

I didn't see Hayward, Favors, or Gobert in that list. Is it possible that all 3 of them made it into the top 50?

[T_L_P]

I didn't see Hayward, Favors, or Gobert in that list. Is it possible that all 3 of them made it into the top 50?

They have to be.

[Naero]

Many take exception to Kobe's droppage on the top-players enumerations, but reality shows that he is overrated even in those "objectionable" lists. With how efficiently he played last season in a vacuum alone, there are many more than 54 players that any person with their GM-thinking cap on should take over him.

The fact that many consider him underrated on these lists is more of a testament to his overratedness than anything else.

[JT123]

When healthy, kobe will give you something like 20/5/5

on 37%

with junior varsity level defense.
Any list that has Kobe in the top 70 is shit. LOL at these shit head stans calling him top 20. Let's have a look at his accomplishments last season while healthy

[B]

[Hit_Em]

Victor Oladipo is not even on the list....yeah **** this list you cant tell me there are 100 better players than him in the league....

[ISHGoat]

[QUOTE=JT123]Any list that has Kobe in the top 70 is shit. LOL at these shit head stans calling him top 20. Let's have a look at his accomplishments last season while healthy

[B]

[JT123]

top 20 player doe


















yeah maybe top 20 all time
:cheers: Stans are never able to admit when their favorite player becomes a washed up shell of himself. I was a big MJ fan back in the day, and had a hard time accepting that he was no longer top 10 during his Wizards years. Kobe WAS great, but the days of him being an elite player are long gone.

[BuffaloBill]

I didn't see Hayward, Favors, or Gobert in that list. Is it possible that all 3 of them made it into the top 50?


Yup. I could even seen two of them being in the low 30s/high 20s

[BuffaloBill]

Victor Oladipo is not even on the list....yeah **** this list you cant tell me there are 100 better players than him in the league....


Yeah idk what they were thinking on that one

[West-Side]

Many take exception to Kobe's droppage on the top-players enumerations, but reality shows that he is overrated even in those "objectionable" lists. With how efficiently he played last season in a vacuum alone, there are many more than 54 players that any person with their GM-thinking cap on should take over him.

The fact that many consider him underrated on these lists is more of a testament to his overratedness than anything else.

He only played like 35 games last season; these lists usually look at more than just last season in deliberation.

Kobe still has the skills that few players possess in this league. He is coming off a serious injury and has lost pretty much all of his athleticism. After nearly 20 years in the league, I think he kind of deserves the benefit of the doubt.

It's not like he's rated 20th or nothing; he's 54th.
He played a total of like 40 games last 2 season.

I'm pretty sure they rated him at 54 based on his skill-set. Kobe is a crafty player and I think he'll surprise quite a few of you this season. I just hope he doesn't play more than 30 minutes.

There are obviously 54 players that GM's would take over Kobe hence his age and injuries. He's also in his last season.

But you honestly think this list ranked Jordan lower than 54th after his 2002 stint with Washington?

HE HAD A WORSE SEASON THAN KOBE DID THAT YEAR, EFFICIENCY WISE.
Go look at the numbers.

Fact is, forums like these do nothing but take pot shots to downplay Kobe's career.

[nathanjizzle]

they got my boy d rose at 60?

:roll:

[ISHGoat]

they got my boy d rose at 60?

:roll:

I know what a fuking joke

He's closer to 600 than 60 :roll:

[ISHGoat]

drose's statline from last season:

17.7/3.2/4.9 on 40/28/81

15.9 PER 49.3% TS%, net BPM of -1.3 :roll::roll::roll:

thats like the stats you'd expect from delly if he was given the green light to chuck. top 60? PLEASE.

I am truly a huge fan of his game, as I can relate to his injuries and his attempts to come back and compete at the highest level. But let's not be delusional.

Drose needs to stop being delusional as well. He needs to stop ****ing taking 6.4 threepointers per 36 minutes if hes shooting 28% on them. He needs to know his game and play within it.

[Hit_Em]

So its agreed no one likes this list

[T_L_P]

drose's statline from last season:

17.7/3.2/4.9 on 40/28/81

15.9 PER 49.3% TS%, net BPM of -1.3 :roll::roll::roll:

thats like the stats you'd expect from delly if he was given the green light to chuck. top 60? PLEASE.

I am truly a huge fan of his game, as I can relate to his injuries and his attempts to come back and compete at the highest level. But let's not be delusional.

Drose needs to stop being delusional as well. He needs to stop ****ing taking 6.4 threepointers per 36 minutes if hes shooting 28% on them. He needs to know his game and play within it.

What boggles my mind is how highly Bulls fans (most of them) still rate him.

Some of the busiest Bulls fans on this board said he was better than Butler last season. :biggums:

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe was literally the most detrimental player in the NBA last season.

[aj1987]

Kobe was literally the most detrimental player in the NBA last season.
Rent = Free.

You're literally obsessed with Kobe.

[ISHGoat]

Kobe was literally the most detrimental player in the NBA last season.

This. I have said this before but I will repeat it again, vegas lines MOVED AGAINST lakers when kobe was out of the lineup. Vegas agreed that the lakers, without kobe, would fare better, sometimes by 2-3 points, which is very significant. For comparison, when John Wall was out of the lineup in the playoffs against atl, the line moved against atlanta by around 2.5 points.

Basically having kobe in the lineup hurt the lakers as much as having john wall out of the washington lineup.

[ArbitraryWater]

Rent = Free.

You're literally obsessed with Kobe.

literally

[nathanjizzle]

drose's statline from last season:

17.7/3.2/4.9 on 40/28/81

15.9 PER 49.3% TS%, net BPM of -1.3 :roll::roll::roll:

thats like the stats you'd expect from delly if he was given the green light to chuck. top 60? PLEASE.

I am truly a huge fan of his game, as I can relate to his injuries and his attempts to come back and compete at the highest level. But let's not be delusional.

Drose needs to stop being delusional as well. He needs to stop ****ing taking 6.4 threepointers per 36 minutes if hes shooting 28% on them. He needs to know his game and play within it.


vegas odds for mvp

Lebron 3/1
Davis 4/1
Harden 5/1
Curry 11/2
Durant 13/2
Westbrook 11/1
Griffin 14/1
Aldridge 22/1
Paul 22/1
Melo 50/1
Rose 50/1
Wall 50/1
Kwahi 50/1

rose still top 15 player. this isnt a news article, This isnt stats from coming off a 3 year hiatus, this has money on it.

[T_L_P]

vegas odds for mvp

Lebron 3/1
Davis 4/1
Harden 5/1
Curry 11/2
Durant 13/2
Westbrook 11/1
Griffin 14/1
Aldridge 22/1
Paul 22/1
Melo 50/1
Rose 50/1
Wall 50/1
Kwahi 50/1

rose still top 15 player. this isnt a news article, This isnt stats from coming off a 3 year hiatus, this has money on it.
Bulls fans are disrespectful.

Jimmy saved your ass last year. He's easily your best player now.

[ISHGoat]

vegas odds for mvp

Lebron 3/1
Davis 4/1
Harden 5/1
Curry 11/2
Durant 13/2
Westbrook 11/1
Griffin 14/1
Aldridge 22/1
Paul 22/1
Melo 50/1
Rose 50/1
Wall 50/1
Kwahi 50/1

rose still top 15 player. this isnt a news article, This isnt stats from coming off a 3 year hiatus, this has money on it.

this is making money off tards like you who think rose is still a mvp candidate.

you know that vegas lines are about PUBLIC PERCEPTION right? the public perception is that rose is still a top 15 player, which is just laughable. and vegas knows this.

[nathanjizzle]

Bulls fans are disrespectful.

Jimmy saved your ass last year. He's easily your best player now.

what did he save us from? that game winning shot bron made on him to win game 4? bulls were a mediocre team in the east when butler was playing at his peak and considered "the best player on the team" averaging 3 assists:roll: . In the biggest game the bulls had last season against golden state, rose outplayed curry and carried the team to win, guess who didnt play that game, butler. stop the overrating.

[KembaWalker]

what did he save us from? that game winning shot bron made on him to win game 4? bulls were a mediocre team in the east when butler was playing at his peak and considered "the best player on the team" averaging 3 assists:roll: . In the biggest game the bulls had last season against golden state, rose outplayed curry and carried the team to win, guess who didnt play that game, butler. stop the overrating.

:roll: :roll:

Jimmy was the best player on that team last season, this is coming from a REAL Bulls fan

Take your own advice, STOP THE OVERRATING

[HurricaneKid]

Giannis is #100? GTFO.

Seriously, did they make this list two years ago and accidentally put it up for this season? DWill? He got benched for JJack last year. Kobe? He hasn't been as good as a replacement player for more than 2 full seasons.

[Sakkreth]

Giannis is #100? GTFO.

Seriously, did they make this list two years ago and accidentally put it up for this season? DWill? He got benched for JJack last year. Kobe? He hasn't been as good as a replacement player for more than 2 full seasons.

Yeah problem is that the list is for best players but they focus on too much stuff that is outside of being good player right now.

[ralph_i_el]

vegas odds for mvp

Lebron 3/1
Davis 4/1
Harden 5/1
Curry 11/2
Durant 13/2
Westbrook 11/1
Griffin 14/1
Aldridge 22/1
Paul 22/1
Melo 50/1
Rose 50/1
Wall 50/1
Kwahi 50/1

rose still top 15 player. this isnt a news article, This isnt stats from coming off a 3 year hiatus, this has money on it.

damn, if Rose was a stock I'd short that mother****er in a second. Did someone develop a leg-transplant procedure?

I'd be willing to ban-bet you on Rose's statline for the upcoming season.

[SpanishACB]

rose still top 15 player. this isnt a news article, This isnt stats from coming off a 3 year hiatus, this has money on it.

you're trying to use bookies as proof when they're actually only representative of the american public or whoever it is that bets in those sites.

you need to get a gripe understand how things work before running your mouth

if there's enough people in america that think rose is top10, and seeing as bulls fanbase is a big % of the nba public even more so in comparison to other groups, then of course bookies are going to have them there, it means there's enough stupid people in america to gift them money through that bet.

[ISHGoat]

damn, if Rose was a stock I'd short that mother****er in a second. Did someone develop a leg-transplant procedure?

I'd be willing to ban-bet you on Rose's statline for the upcoming season.

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1425/14251903/2563254-1361589542722.gif

[aj1987]

literally
Yep. 90%+ of your posts agree with me, Mertin.