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RoundMoundOfReb
09-02-2015, 12:52 AM
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http://i26.tinypic.com/1564gfq.jpg

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 12:55 AM
https://scontent-mad1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e35/11906356_929233987147625_1153551698_n.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/1564gfq.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll:

So a flat-footed Wilt doesn't have the reach of a Whiteside, who obviously leaped up, grabbed the rim, and pulled it down several inches, while standing on his tip-toes?

Of course, we KNOW that Chamberlain had a higher standing reach, so these photos are moot anyway.

KnittingRyu
09-02-2015, 12:56 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

So a flat-footed Wilt doesn't have the reach of a Whiteside, who obviously leaped up, grabbed the rim, and pulled it down several inches, while standing on his tip-toes?

Of course, we KNOW that Chamberlain had a higher standing reach, so these photos are moot anyway.

This. If Wilt pulled the rim down, he too would have his toes on the floor.

RoundMoundOfReb
09-02-2015, 12:58 AM
It's difficult to say, from that angle, whether or not he's standing flat footed in that pic.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 01:00 AM
It's difficult to say, from that angle, whether or not he's standing flat footed in that pic.

We KNOW that Wilt's standing reach was 9-6, and Whiteside's is 9-5.

RoundMoundOfReb
09-02-2015, 01:01 AM
We KNOW that Wilt's standing reach was 9-6, and Whiteside's is 9-5.

No. We don't know this. What we do KNOW is that Wilt would basically be a poor man's Whiteside today.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 01:05 AM
No. We don't know this. What we do KNOW is that Wilt would basically be a poor man's Whiteside today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Hassan-Whiteside-5660/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain


Announced as "looking lighter than his 240 pounds, [able to] reach 9'6" up in the air [flatfooted]

And here is one with Wilt's standing reach at 9-7...

https://books.google.com/books?id=-Y7inUoP0NkC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=wilt+chamberlain+standing+reach&source=bl&ots=Emt1NuxOa4&sig=BI7PqdSoUJNaYn7RA9WqIygIuD0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjA0bCDytfHAhUIO4gKHSoPA48#v =onepage&q=wilt%20chamberlain%20standing%20reach&f=false

RoundMoundOfReb
09-02-2015, 01:06 AM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Hassan-Whiteside-5660/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain

post the full quote


Announced as "looking lighter than his 240 pounds, [able to] reach 9'6" up in the air [flatfooted], and [with a wingspan of] 7'2",[citation needed]

senelcoolidge
09-02-2015, 01:06 AM
Damn, Laz exposed this roundmound guy.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 01:10 AM
post the full quote

Yeah...his wingspan wasn't 7-2, it was 7-8, which was officially measured before his proposed fight with Ali...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuX7FlddCRg

And again...Wilt's standing reach... 9-7.

https://books.google.com/books?id=-Y7inUoP0NkC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=wilt+chamberlain+standing+reach&source=bl&ots=Emt1NuxOa4&sig=BI7PqdSoUJNaYn7RA9WqIygIuD0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgUahUKEwjA0bCDytfHAhUIO4gKHSoPA48#v =onepage&q=wilt%20chamberlain%20standing%20reach&f=false

LoneyROY7
09-02-2015, 01:11 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

So a flat-footed Wilt doesn't have the reach of a Whiteside, who obviously leaped up, grabbed the rim, and pulled it down several inches, while standing on his tip-toes?

Of course, we KNOW that Chamberlain had a higher standing reach, so these photos are moot anyway.

Wilt's definitely not flat-footed in that picture. You can see the crease in his converse where the toes bend.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 01:16 AM
Wilt's definitely not flat-footed in that picture. You can see the crease in his converse where the toes bend.

Yeah...but that was a 12 foot basket...

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-plot-to-kill-the-slam-dunk


Amid the experiments, everybody in the sport was asked what they thought of such a change. Chamberlain said that he wouldn't mind it, because "it would only add to the prowess of the big man." (Worth noting: Wilt could dunk on the 12-foot rims Allen kept around at Kansas). Russell and Alcindor didn't think it would hurt them, either. John Wooden, Alcindor's coach at UCLA, was opposed to both higher rims and the dunk ban, although he did propose a rule that mandated a pass after a rebound to eliminate the tip-in. (By 1997, Wooden would change his mind, calling for 11-foot rims and a dunk ban.)

BTW, Wilt was 6-11 when he entered Overbrook High, and 7-1+ when he graduated from high school. There is no telling when that photo was taken.

LoneyROY7
09-02-2015, 01:20 AM
Yeah...but that was a 12 foot basket...

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-plot-to-kill-the-slam-dunk

Word. I didn't know it was a 12 ft basket, I could just see that he wasn't flat-footed.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 01:21 AM
Word. I didn't know it was a 12 ft basket, I could just see that he wasn't flat-footed.

I was being facetious.

But, seriously, we don't know when that photo was taken of Wilt. It might have been his freshman year in high school (when he was still "only" 6-11.)

AirFederer
09-02-2015, 03:18 AM
Could Whiteside do this?!? :eek: :wtf: :eek:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg

warriorfan
09-02-2015, 04:12 AM
Could Whiteside do this?!? :eek: :wtf: :eek:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg

:roll:

SugarHill
09-02-2015, 04:18 AM
Could Whiteside do this?!? :eek: :wtf: :eek:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/32F69x2.png

theaussieguy
09-02-2015, 09:04 AM
wilt is the most overrated player I have ever seen. Wow he scored 100 points big ****ing deal. Its the equivalent to a grown man playing against 5 toddlers. All you have to do is stand under the rim and put the fukking ball in. Its not fukking hard, it doesn't require any real skill other than being outrageously tall, which of course he was, but it doesn't make u a baller.

FKAri
09-02-2015, 09:18 AM
wilt is the most overrated player I have ever seen. Wow he scored 100 points big ****ing deal. Its the equivalent to a grown man playing against 5 toddlers. All you have to do is stand under the rim and put the fukking ball in. Its not fukking hard, it doesn't require any real skill other than being outrageously tall, which of course he was, but it doesn't make u a baller.

Same is true for Shaq tho. Notice how his numbers highly fluctuate based on the size of the C guarding him. That's the antithesis of unguardable.

LAZERUSS
09-02-2015, 09:32 AM
wilt is the most overrated player I have ever seen. Wow he scored 100 points big ****ing deal. Its the equivalent to a grown man playing against 5 toddlers. All you have to do is stand under the rim and put the fukking ball in. Its not fukking hard, it doesn't require any real skill other than being outrageously tall, which of course he was, but it doesn't make u a baller.


That explains why the 7-3 Swede Halbrook dominated his NBA peers back then, as well. Same thing with true seven-footers like Henry Finkel, Reggie Harding, Walter Dukes, and Mel Counts.

3ball
09-02-2015, 02:24 PM
Yeah...but that was a 12 foot basket...

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/the-plot-to-kill-the-slam-dunk



BTW, Wilt was 6-11 when he entered Overbrook High, and 7-1+ when he graduated from high school. There is no telling when that photo was taken.


i agree with laz here... i always thought that those wilt highlights at 17 yrs old were on high rims.

look at his highlights in this video at kutshers - both the outdoor and indoor highlights - that rim is NOT 10 feet, or anywhere near.. At least 11 or 12 feet, which makes what Wilt is doing, like, amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GPibuasw4&t=0m32s

Marchesk
09-02-2015, 02:30 PM
wilt is the most overrated player I have ever seen. Wow he scored 100 points big ****ing deal. Its the equivalent to a grown man playing against 5 toddlers. All you have to do is stand under the rim and put the fukking ball in. Its not fukking hard, it doesn't require any real skill other than being outrageously tall, which of course he was, but it doesn't make u a baller.

One inch average height difference between now and then.

Elosha
09-03-2015, 04:12 PM
i agree with laz here... i always thought that those wilt highlights at 17 yrs old were on high rims.

look at his highlights in this video at kutshers - both the outdoor and indoor highlights - that rim is NOT 10 feet, or anywhere near.. At least 11 or 12 feet, which makes what Wilt is doing, like, amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GPibuasw4&t=0m32s

No they are likely just ten foot rims. Pause at 33 seconds, for instance. He's just barely off the ground with a tiny jump, his arm is at about an 75 degree angle, yet his hand is already at the rim. I'm sure he was really just fooling around here, jumping probably only 12-18 inches on most of these dunks. I don't know what his vertical was in these young years, but it was certainly more than that.

Anyone who thinks a 270-300 pound, 7'1"+ center with at least a 9'6" inch wingspan is an "overrated" size needs to check his history books. There are only a few centers to rival or exceed Chamberlain's overall size. He was an absolute monster, with excellent skill and instincts on top of all of that. You don't have to believe Chamberlain was the absolute GOAT to still acknowledge his incredible contribution and impact on the game. No one can legitimately deny he's an all time great.

ClipperRevival
09-03-2015, 04:16 PM
i agree with laz here... i always thought that those wilt highlights at 17 yrs old were on high rims.

look at his highlights in this video at kutshers - both the outdoor and indoor highlights - that rim is NOT 10 feet, or anywhere near.. At least 11 or 12 feet, which makes what Wilt is doing, like, amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GPibuasw4&t=0m32s

OMG, you are so right. That rim is higher than 10 feet, that's for sure. Probably 11 feet based the distance between Wilt's head and the rim.

Marchesk
09-03-2015, 04:25 PM
OMG, you are so right. That rim is higher than 10 feet, that's for sure. Probably 11 feet based the distance between Wilt's head and the rim.

I never noticed that before. It does look a lot higher than 10 feet.

Elosha
09-03-2015, 04:36 PM
^^ Don't think so, they look about as high as the ones they are playing on later in the video, and Wilt's head in comparison to those rime and his dunks during the game are just about the same as the warm up, outside dunks we are discussing. Why would they be playing on anything other than 10 foot rims. If anything the outdoor rims might be only slightly higher than 10, but nowhere near 11.

Coach Eddie
09-03-2015, 05:14 PM
No. We don't know this. What we do KNOW is that Wilt would basically be a poor man's Whiteside today.
:roll:

Coach Eddie
09-03-2015, 05:15 PM
Could Whiteside do this?!? :eek: :wtf: :eek:

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg
:roll: :roll:

Vaniiiia
09-03-2015, 05:26 PM
I never noticed that before. It does look a lot higher than 10 feet.
A lot higher?

Wilt is 7 foot. The length from the top of his head to the rim is no more than 3 1/2 feet. Probably just 3 which would make it 10 foot.

STOP WITH THE MYTHS.

4 Inches
09-03-2015, 08:35 PM
Wilt in NBA 2K15 :bowdown:
http://giant.gfycat.com/AjarOrderlyChinchilla.gif

sd3035
09-03-2015, 09:10 PM
lol Wilt was such a joke, he would be lucky to crack the league in this era

SugarHill
09-03-2015, 09:16 PM
Wilt in NBA 2K15 :bowdown:
http://giant.gfycat.com/AjarOrderlyChinchilla.gif
:roll:

LAZERUSS
09-04-2015, 09:24 AM
i agree with laz here... i always thought that those wilt highlights at 17 yrs old were on high rims.

look at his highlights in this video at kutshers - both the outdoor and indoor highlights - that rim is NOT 10 feet, or anywhere near.. At least 11 or 12 feet, which makes what Wilt is doing, like, amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GPibuasw4&t=0m32s

Good catch. The rim is substantially higher in the playground dunks, than in the game footage which immediately followed.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Elosha
09-04-2015, 12:12 PM
Good catch. The rim is substantially higher in the playground dunks, than in the game footage which immediately followed.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Disagree for the reasons and video points I already cited, but reasonable minds can differ. In any event, there's no doubt that Wilt and a number of other great centers could have dunked on an 11 foot foot rim quite easily.

riseagainst
09-04-2015, 12:31 PM
Wilt in NBA 2K15 :bowdown:
http://giant.gfycat.com/AjarOrderlyChinchilla.gif

:roll:

kshutts1
09-04-2015, 01:06 PM
i agree with laz here... i always thought that those wilt highlights at 17 yrs old were on high rims.

look at his highlights in this video at kutshers - both the outdoor and indoor highlights - that rim is NOT 10 feet, or anywhere near.. At least 11 or 12 feet, which makes what Wilt is doing, like, amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GPibuasw4&t=0m32s
It is possible the rim is about 11 feet.

Let's assume Laz is spot on with the 9'7 standing reach. Then, since Wilt is clearly not trying (he doesn't jump high, nor does he appear to try to), let's say he is jumping only 24" (It's pretty indisputable that Wilt had a 32" vert, at worst).

That brings his end reach to 11'7", which is enough clearance to dunk (easily) on an 11' rim.

So yeah... it looks like the rim is likely 11' high.

kshutts1
09-04-2015, 01:11 PM
^^ Don't think so, they look about as high as the ones they are playing on later in the video, and Wilt's head in comparison to those rime and his dunks during the game are just about the same as the warm up, outside dunks we are discussing. Why would they be playing on anything other than 10 foot rims. If anything the outdoor rims might be only slightly higher than 10, but nowhere near 11.

Pause the video posted right after Wilt's initial dunk. I have it paused at :35.

Wilt is standing behind, and slightly to the right, of the basket, so perspective is slightly skewed. His knees are slightly bent, as he's walking and not fully upright.

Those variances aside, assuming Wilt is roughly 7 feet tall, the basket looks to be about 5 feet above his head. For a total of 12 feet. But then let's deduct from that height because of the aforementioned factors, and it's still reasonable that the basket is 11 feet.

As to why? Who the hell knows. In trying to market the game, and make it more awe-inspiring, a lot of gimmicks were done, specifically centered around higher rims. The Globetrotters have been known to do it, and there are stories of Wilt playing on similarly raised rims. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that the rims at Kutshers, a place famous for literally just putting on shows, would raise the rim to make it more awesome.

Asukal
09-04-2015, 10:55 PM
Wilt in NBA 2K15 :bowdown:
http://giant.gfycat.com/AjarOrderlyChinchilla.gif

Nice handles. :lol :oldlol: