CP3 Last season

[ralph_i_el]

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CHRIS PAUL
Clippers | Guard |

Maybe the most remarkable Paul statistic from last season concerns his offensive impact. With Paul on the court, the Clippers posted a whopping 115.1 offensive rating, which was more than five points higher than the overall league-leading offensive rating. When he was off the court, the Clippers

[Achilleas]

because clippers had only 7 players,and the 6man was jamal :confusedshrug:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

CP3 was clearly the best player in the league last season for anyone with knowledge on the game. Led the best offense with Barnes and Deandre starting as well as a bottom 3 bench in NBA. Along with being a top 3 defensive player at his position. Best midrange shooter, best pullup game, best playmaker, best passer. Most complete player in the league easily and besides Larry Bird maybe the most skilled player ever. Dudes doin all of this at 5'11 with no special athletic gifts at this point in his career besides strength

[Al Thornton]

doesn't account for who he plays with and then who is playing when he is off the court though. clippers would still have a top 10 offense if u replace him with an average starter

[warriorfan]

They ran NO D blake griffin and NO D JJ whiteboy to go all offense. Any team can get the "number one ranked offense" if they just punt D and go all O.

[Al Thornton]

Led the best offense with Barnes and Deandre starting as well as a bottom 3 bench in NBA

deandre was a big reason they had the best offense

people really expose their basketball knowledge when they think he is kendrick perkins

[warriorfan]

going all offense is a good strategy if you want advanced stat nerds to slob the knob. if you want to actually win it isn't the best idea. ask steve nash

[lilteapot]

doesn't account for who he plays with and then who is playing when he is off the court though. clippers would still have a top 10 offense if u replace him with an average starter
Yeah, no.

[ralph_i_el]

doesn't account for who he plays with and then who is playing when he is off the court though. clippers would still have a top 10 offense if u replace him with an average starter

no

like I don't even know what to say to this

no

[avonbarksdale]

choked being up 3-1

[mehyaM24]

damn i was looking for him in game 6 vs houston. you know, the game, he led a 20 point comeback?

oh and by led, i mean chris paul let the other team comeback, and win the game with harden on the bench. :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

damn i was looking for him in game 6 vs houston. you know, the game, he led a 20 point comeback?

oh and by led, i mean chris paul let the other team comeback, and win the game with harden on the bench. :oldlol:


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Cp3rd round virgin plays with an MVP canidate on a team who is capable of winning playoff games without him and lost a 3-1 series lead.. on top of that has never made it past the second round in his careerr.. got fuccing mollywhopped by Melo's nuggets where Cp2nd led his team to a 60pt loss at home

[warriorfan]

Cp3

[AnaheimLakers24]

Scrub but at least hes not wall :lol

[Rocketswin2013]

damn i was looking for him in game 6 vs houston. you know, the game, he led a 20 point comeback?

oh and by led, i mean chris paul let the other team comeback, and win the game with harden on the bench. :oldlol:
Chris Paul was actually great great in that game. What other player is stopping 4 players from going off at once?


Also, saying Blake Griffin is an MVP candidate, is arguably arguably ban- worthy.

[qrich]

They ran NO D blake griffin and NO D JJ whiteboy to go all offense. Any team can get the "number one ranked offense" if they just punt D and go all O.

To say Blake and JJ play zero D is so damn ignorant. They might not be Danny Green and Dwight Howard, but both are average to above average.

Redick, especially, gets his defensive input overlooked for being a sharpshooter, who is also not black. His athleticism is below the league average, but his IQ and awareness allows him to get into the proper position to make it tough on his counterpart. He also plays team d real well, shedding the opposing player to go to his help.

I mean, lets compare Redick to a Klay Thompson, Iman Shumpert, Danny Green and Avery Bradley. Advanced stats don't tell the whole story, as those guys are better defenders, but the numbers are quite surprising.

JJ's Counterpart's Per48 Per @ SG/SF: 11.2/13.6
Klay Thompson's Counterpart: 11.1/12.1
Iman Shumpert's Counterpart: 12.9/12.9
Danny Green's Counterpart: 13.0/11.5
Avery Bradley's Counterpart: 12.8/17.5

Dude gave up the 2nd lowest per at the two guard spot. Just insane for a guy that plays no D right.


doesn't account for who he plays with and then who is playing when he is off the court though. clippers would still have a top 10 offense if u replace him with an average starter

Maybe, considering an average starter at the point would be a Jeff Teague or Ty Lawson due to the insane depth at the position. But if you think an Isaiah Thomas, Brandan Knight, Darren Collison, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, Jarrett Jack would keep us top 10, I'd say no.

[Spurs m8]

CP3 was clearly the best player in the league last season for anyone with knowledge on the game.

LOL you moron

[ArbitraryWater]

Chris Paul was actually great great in that game. What other player is stopping 4 players from going off at once?


Also, saying Blake Griffin is an MVP candidate, is arguably arguably ban- worthy.

Blake is an MVP candidate and will be again.. 3rd in MVP voting in 2014.

[Young X]

He was also the best isolation defender according to Synergy Sports.

So he ran the best, most efficient offense in the league, led the league in assists, shot nearly 49/40/90 (51/43/94 in the playoffs) and did this while being an elite defensive player.

He plays at this high of a level on both ends of the court and no one appreciates his game. Ridiculous.

There's too many f*ggots on ISH and not enough good posters. This thread is about CP3's impact on his team's offense and you still have idiots in here hating for no reason.

[warriorfan]

He was also the best isolation defender according to Synergy Sports.

So he ran the best, most efficient offense in the league, led the league in assists, shot nearly 49/40/90 (51/43/94 in the playoffs) and did this while being an elite defensive player.

He plays at this high of a level on both ends of the court and no one appreciates his game. Ridiculous.

There's too many f*ggots on ISH and not enough good posters. This thread is about CP3's impact on his team's offense and you still have idiots in here hating for no reason.

regular season super star, where was that cp3 when houston was fuccing them in the ass with Harden sitting on the bench?

[Wade's Rings]

He was also the best isolation defender according to Synergy Sports.

So he ran the best, most efficient offense in the league, led the league in assists, shot nearly 49/40/90 (51/43/94 in the playoffs) and did this while being an elite defensive player.

He plays at this high of a level on both ends of the court and no one appreciates his game. Ridiculous.

There's too many f*ggots on ISH and not enough good posters. This thread is about CP3's impact on his team's offense and you still have idiots in here hating for no reason.

Do you have a link to this? I remember back in the day this heat007 guy would always preach about how Wade lead the league in Isolation Defense in 2005, 2009, and 2010 and said he got the stats from Synergy Sports but I could never find it.

[Young X]

Do you have a link to this? I remember back in the day this heat007 guy would always preach about how Wade lead the league in Isolation Defense in 2005, 2009, and 2010 and said he got the stats from Synergy Sports but I could never find it.I think you have to sign up to get information from that site. I just seen it mentioned in an article:

http://www.nba.com/clippers/press-release-first-team-all-defense


Paul was second in the NBA in total steals (156) and fifth in steals per game (1.90). He has led the NBA in steals in six of the past eight seasons. According to data from Synergy Sports, Paul ranked first in the NBA this season in isolation situations, allowing only 0.565 points per play in such scenarios. Paul was previously named to the NBA All-Defensive First Team in 2014, 2013, 2012 and 2009 and was also named to the NBA All-Defensive Second Team in 2011 and 2008.

[LoneyROY7]

Chris Paul was actually great great in that game. What other player is stopping 4 players from going off at once?


Also, saying Blake Griffin is an MVP candidate, is arguably arguably ban- worthy.

And you're arguably arguably a dumbshit.

[Wade's Rings]

I think you have to sign up to get information from that site. I just seen it mentioned in an article

:mad:


http://www.nba.com/clippers/press-release-first-team-all-defense

If this is true that means Wade was the best Man/1 on 1 Defender for 3 Seasons in the League :bowdown:

[Rocketswin2013]

Blake is an MVP candidate and will be again.. 3rd in MVP voting in 2014.
And Harden was top 5 IIRC. Those are 3rd place votes along with ones from popularity. No one seriously considered Blake Griffin an MVP. This guy has absolutely quit rebounding. He was posting 21/7/5 last season. That's... just all-star production.


That is nothing that would make me take him over over a dozen guys. He shined the most in the playoffs, which is great . But even with taking the entire season off on something that takes a lot of energy (rebounding), he still ran out of gas at the end of the Rockets series.

Played a great 3 quarters in game 6, just disappeared in the 4th, and didn't show up in the second half of game 7. This isn't the only time he failed in big moments.

He nearly sabotaged the Clippers series win against the Spurs with his terrible, timid 4th quarter play and crucial turnover in game 5(?).

He's a really good player but Paul is a tier above him and he's a fringe top 10 player.

[SwishSquared]

And Harden was top 5 IIRC. Those are 3rd place votes along with ones from popularity. No one seriously considered Blake Griffin an MVP. This guy has absolutely quit rebounding. He was posting 21/7/5 last season. That's... just all-star production.


That is nothing that would make me take him over over a dozen guys. He shined the most in the playoffs, which is great . But even with taking the entire season off on something that takes a lot of energy (rebounding), he still ran out of gas at the end of the Rockets series.

Played a great 3 quarters in game 6, just disappeared in the 4th, and didn't show up in the second half of game 7. This isn't the only time he failed in big moments.

He nearly sabotaged the Clippers series win against the Spurs with his terrible, timid 4th quarter play and crucial turnover in game 5(?).

He's a really good player but Paul is a tier above him and he's a fringe top 10 player.The one thing you can defend about the decrease in rebounds is that he has punted on defense rebounding in order for DJ to pad his stats. Since they don't involve him that much on offense, they at least allow him to post eye-popping rebounding numbers.

Granted, I know he maintained those stats, and increased them, when BG was out this past year, but it seems watching them that they cede boards to DJ to keep him happy.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying really, just wanted to chime in lol. I think though that the absolute lolzy bench did them in finally in the WCSF. The starters put forth so much energy vs. the Spurs that they had little left in the tank. Not really an excuse for them blowing that Rockets series, but just an explanation I guess.

Blake does need to play much better in fourth quarters, though. I think this Clippers team's ultimate destiny is where BG takes them on offense. CP3 is getting older and is at a physical disadvantage vs. most playoff starters. BG needs to better pace himself so he can dominate in stretch in every quarter.

[inclinerator]

the most skilled player in the nba
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[robby712]

His game 7 against the Spurs was one of the best I've seen from a player. Sheer determination. He is still the best PG in the league, the best general. The problem is, as I said in another thread, that you can't win with just one playmaker on your team. Even if he is the best one. Also, as Simmons or Jalen said in one of Grantland's podcast a while back, you may have a problem when your toughest player is your 5'11'' PG:oldlol:

[Al Thornton]

The problem is, as I said in another thread, that you can't win with just one playmaker on your team.

true, and was the case with a lot of his teams but that wasn't the problem with the 14 or 15 clippers


Maybe, considering an average starter at the point would be a Jeff Teague or Ty Lawson due to the insane depth at the position. But if you think an Isaiah Thomas, Brandan Knight, Darren Collison, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, Jarrett Jack would keep us top 10, I'd say no.

reggie jackson, thomas someone like that. i just think as long as they have blake, dj and enough shooting their offense will be very good

[ClipperRevival]

This stat doesn't surprise me one bit. You can seriously argue that CP3 is one of the most impactful players ever in situations where you throw him with any awful team in history and he would guarantee to help you go at least .500 or better. He just positively impacts your team in so many ways. He plays the PG position almost perfectly in terms of maximizing each possession on offense without turning it over and giving you all time great D from the PG position.

Playoffs? That's another story.

[Clifton]

Paul's one of the alltime great PGs, but, in spite of this eye-popping statistic (overrated because of the Clips' lack of depth, as others have pointed out; and also because the other Clippers have been conditioned to have no idea what to without Paul on the floor), I happen to think the Clippers might be better off without him (with a suitable substitute of course; a middle-of-the-road starter). This would force Griffin to become a takeover player and nightly triple double-threat, rather than a pick-and-pop bore.

There is no reason Griffin should not be averaging 26/10/6, even with DJ. Without DJ it should be 28/12/5. The guy needs to get it together and dominate. I'd like to see Paul on any team rather than this one. Who wouldn't want him to team up with Anthony Davis? Or, what about a Teague for Paul swap? With Paul the Hawks get the takeover offensive player they're lacking.

[keep-itreal]

choked in the playoffs again :roll: