51% of U.S. Muslims believe they should have the choice of American or shariah court

[BigNBAfan]

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[QUOTE]According to a new nationwide online survey (Below) of 600 Muslims living in the United States, significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America

[KnittingRyu]

"Yes, I would like the court where my punishment may be the removal of my hands or stoned to death, please."

[imdaman99]

A poll of 600? :oldlol:

[SugarHill]

A poll of 600? :oldlol:
but they rep the majority!!

[imdaman99]

but they rep the majority!!
Were you aware? That there are only 800 Muslims in the US? :roll:

There are like 2,000 in my mosque community alone. If they wanted numbers, they should have came through. But that wouldn't push their agenda :oldlol:

[BigNBAfan]

Were you aware? That there are only 800 Muslims in the US? :roll:

There are like 2,000 in my mosque community alone. If they wanted numbers, they should have came through. But that wouldn't push their agenda :oldlol:

I dont think you understand polls. The sample size is a representation of the population target.

Even US presidential polls are only between 600-1200 generally and that's with an error margin of just 3%.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_p residential_election,_2012)

And you cant just poll one mosque, you have to take into consideration location, sex, age, income etc.

Also, if you spend a few seconds looking up the poll you can see who actually conducted it. It's a site that's funded by the US government, not some third party site with an angenda. The Chief of Center for Security Policy was Assistant Secretary of Defense.

But hey, you're muslim so you'll discredit anything regardless of the science and credibility of those behind it if it doesnt match your view.

[NumberSix]

Were you aware? That there are only 800 Muslims in the US? :roll:

There are like 2,000 in my mosque community alone. If they wanted numbers, they should have came through. But that wouldn't push their agenda :oldlol:
So, in your opinion, it's ridiculous to believe that American Muslims would be in favour of sharia, because sharia would be a ridiculous thing to be in favour of?

[sweggeh]

Its obvious at this point BigNBAFan is either 9er or Poido in disguise. Using this account to push their agenda, while playing friendly on their other accounts.

[iamgine]

People don't even understand Sharia law but already vilify it. I'm sure people under Sharia law is like that too towards American law. "In America, you just drop coffee or stumble and get millions $$. Murderers often gets off free while innocent people are executed. You can steal poor people's money and not even get in jail."

[imdaman99]

So, in your opinion, it's ridiculous to believe that American Muslims would be in favour of sharia, because sharia would be a ridiculous thing to be in favour of?
I think it would be ridiculous to push it in a country that is not dominated by Muslims. We are such a small % here, we are better off adapting to times and place. It is not difficult to continue to be religious while living here and not offending anyone else. Unfortunately, a lot of people want everything catered to themselves, regardless of religion or race, including the 302-303 people that were polled.

[NumberSix]

I think it would be ridiculous to push it in a country that is not dominated by Muslims. We are such a small % here, we are better off adapting to times and place. It is not difficult to continue to be religious while living here and not offending anyone else. Unfortunately, a lot of people want everything catered to themselves, regardless of religion or race, including the 302-303 people that were polled.
So, it's sounds like you DO believe that sharia is a perfectly fine thing to be in favour of. That being the case, why do you find it ridiculous to suggest that other American Muslims would also believe it is a reasonable thing to be in favour of?

[imdaman99]

So, it's sounds like you DO believe that sharia is a perfectly fine thing to be in favour of. That being the case, why do you find it ridiculous to suggest that other American Muslims would also believe it is a reasonable thing to be in favour of?
I've never lived life with Shariah law, so who am I to judge if it's wrong or right? I am indifferent to whether it is too brutal or if it's effective in preventing people from committing crimes that would warrant such punishment.

I find it stupid for fellow Muslims to think it is something that should be put into effect here. This is the US. If they are gonna come here for better opportunities, they should accept the law here as well. Like I said, Islam is fully capable of being practiced here without Shariah law. Does an American who goes into a Muslim country have to abide by Shariah Law or will he expect things differently?

[dunksby]

I've never lived life with Shariah law, so who am I to judge if it's wrong or right? I am indifferent to whether it is too brutal.


I got 80 reasons on my back that say you wouldn't.

[knickballer]

People don't even understand Sharia law but already vilify it. I'm sure people under Sharia law is like that too towards American law. "In America, you just drop coffee or stumble and get millions $$. Murderers often gets off free while innocent people are executed. You can steal poor people's money and not even get in jail."

Sharia law is a barbaric interpretation of Islam. It holds no place in the modern world and the fact that you're defending it shows your ignorance on the subject. Sharia law makes North Korea look like a decent place to live in.

Are people really this stupid?

[StephHamann]

Are muslims really this stupid?

yup

[NumberSix]

I've never lived life with Shariah law, so who am I to judge if it's wrong or right?
You've never lived under Israeli occupation either. So, presumably, you have no opinion if that is right or wrong either, right?

[DeuceWallaces]

I dont think you understand polls. The sample size is a representation of the population target.

Even US presidential polls are only between 600-1200 generally and that's with an error margin of just 3%.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_p residential_election,_2012)

And you cant just poll one mosque, you have to take into consideration location, sex, age, income etc.

Also, if you spend a few seconds looking up the poll you can see who actually conducted it. It's a site that's funded by the US government, not some third party site with an angenda. The Chief of Center for Security Policy was Assistant Secretary of Defense.

But hey, you're muslim so you'll discredit anything regardless of the science and credibility of those behind it if it doesnt match your view.

You're the one who doesn't seem to understand. This poll was conducted by a Pro-Israel think tank. I highly doubt it's a random sample of American Muslims.

[dannywpt]

A poll of 600? :oldlol:

600 is more than enough to get an accurate estimation of +/- 5% within the entire population...

given that the people chosen to answer are drawn 100% randomly

Statistics, bitch

[DeuceWallaces]

600 is more than enough to get an accurate estimation of +/- 5% within the entire population...

given that the people chosen to answer are drawn 100% randomly

Statistics, bitch

Incorrect.

The US has an estimated muslim population of 2.77 million in 2010. Based on this population size you would need a sample size of just of 10K to achieve a 95% confidence interval on the sample mean.

Statistics, bitch.

[mehyaM24]

800 is still 800 - one too many

have people actually read up on the sharia law? pure insanity

[iamgine]

Sharia law is a barbaric interpretation of Islam. It holds no place in the modern world and the fact that you're defending it shows your ignorance on the subject. Sharia law makes North Korea look like a decent place to live in.
No one's defending it. Just that no one here understand it but vilify it.

[NumberSix]

No one's defending it. Just that no one here understand it but vilify it.
Why do you assume that no one here understands it?

[knickballer]

No one's defending it. Just that no one here understand it but vilify it.

The point I'm trying to make is that any sane person who does understand what Sharia Law is will vilify it...

[DeuceWallaces]

center for security policy is pro-isreal? any proof or are you just making shit up.

You know, when you read a study you should take the extra step yourself before you go screaming about Muslims. A smart person reads this, and the first thing they do is Google who authored the data collection and report. But then again you're an idiot racist so I guess that's too much to ask. You'd prefer someone else do the fact checking while you continue to scream about Muslims.

[DeuceWallaces]

Lol, then you delete your dumbass post.

[BigNBAfan]

dumbass post? i just asked how you knew it was pro-isreal idiot... and i found the answer myself. regardless if its done by pro-isreal sites or not, alone that doesnt disprove anything.

Just because the author is pro-isreal doesnt discredit his research as long as he conducted it properly.

[Giaodollo]

dumbass post? i just asked how you knew it was pro-isreal idiot...
It is actually not hard to google the surveyors and look at their website to get an overhaul of their opinions. In this case this group is a very pro Israel think thank. Their founder has even received several awards fr Zionist organizations.

With that said, we shouldn't discredit their poll. In general, in Europe at least the numbers do look about the same. All from 25-50 wants sharia with the younger generation often being more radical.

[BigNBAfan]

It is actually not hard to google the surveyors and look at their website to get an overhaul of their opinions. In this case this group is a very pro Israel think thank. Their founder has even received several awards fr Zionist organizations.

With that said, we shouldn't discredit their poll. In general, in Europe at least the numbers do look about the same. All from 25-50 wants sharia with the younger generation often being more radical.

I prob. should have, but the polling and results were done by a third party polling company.... so it's irrelevant.

[DeuceWallaces]

dumbass post? i just asked how you knew it was pro-isreal idiot... and i found the answer myself. regardless if its done by pro-isreal sites or not, alone that doesnt disprove anything.

Just because the author is pro-isreal doesnt discredit his research as long as he conducted it properly.

Well, your post was dumb enough that you went back and deleted it.

Furthermore, yes it does discredit the research. It's called confirmation bias. Not only does the report suffer from major confirmation bias, but it also was conducted improperly. A simple power test reveals that their sample size was wholly inadequate, and when combined with their bias, I think it's safe to assume that the sample was in no way random or independent.

[DeuceWallaces]

I prob. should have, but the polling and results were done by a third party polling company.... so it's irrelevant.

No it's not. They just hand over the data and the Zionists can cook the numbers in any way they please.

[BigNBAfan]

Well, your post was dumb enough that you went back and deleted it.

Furthermore, yes it does discredit the research. It's called confirmation bias. Not only does the report suffer from major confirmation bias, but it also was conducted improperly. A simple power test reveals that their sample size was wholly inadequate, and when combined with their bias, I think it's safe to assume that the sample was in no way random or independent.

Umm, the had a third party company that ONLY does poll do it. the results are all there, margin of errors 3.5%.

[BigNBAfan]

No it's not. They just hand over the data and the Zionists can cook the numbers in any way they please.


Overall, the survey, which was conducted by The Polling Company for the Center for Security Policy (CSP)

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they linked the raw data results on the bottom, how transparent do you want them to be about their results

http://pollingcompany.com/

[HitandRun Reggie]

Textbook example of irony.

Idiots leaving their own nation, turned to crap because of their religion, laws and values only to seek a better life in a nation without these consequential problems, only to demand that their new home adopt similar religious values and laws. :facepalm