In a draft: Chris Paul or Anthony Davis

[iamgine]

Who'd you take in a draft: 20 years old CP3 or 19 years old Anthony Davis, with hindsight to both players thus far.

[dubeta]

LMAO is this a joke?

How many pgs lead teams to rings vs big men?

its not even close

[TheMarkMadsen]

Anthony Davis

[WayOfWade]

Probably Anthony Davis completely based on potential

[plowking]

Anthony Davis, and I'd punch Chris Paul in the mouth.

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This is a mod trap, anyone who answers Chris Paul will be banned for trolling.

[outbreak]

Anthony Davis, and I'd punch Chris Paul in the mouth.

You could try to punch him in the mouth but the most likely outcome is that he will be rolling around on the ground before your punch even lands.

[Naero]

Anthony Davis

[warriorfan]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4590267/cp3-flop-o.gif

[Heavincent]

Anthony Davis, easily.

[G-train]

Who'd you take in a draft: 20 years old CP3 or 19 years old Anthony Davis, with hindsight to both players thus far.

Well I know you would take Paul, giney

[G-train]

[QUOTE=Naero]Anthony Davis

[AnaheimLakers24]

:lol

[kennethgriffin]

This is a mod trap, anyone who answers Chris Paul will be banned for trolling.

davis is better. but in todays soft nba with reffing bias against bigs and in favor of PG's.. a prime younger chris paul in todays nba might do what steph curry just did


if anthony davis came in the league 15-20 years ago. that would be a different story



i'd lean towards paul for this pussafied era

[Rocketswin2013]

Bad hypothetical.

[TheBigVeto]

Always take the big man.

[Akrazotile]

At this point right now the answer is CP3 for me. Since I'm not a ringtard I appreciate that Paul has played outstanding in multiple playoff series throughout his career. I know what he's capable of. Davis has been good so far but it's still yet to be seen if he can play consistently well in the postseason and be a factor there. Anyone who actually watches games instead of just looking at team results knows Paul is a very strong performer in the playoffs.

Davis may ultimately prove to be the better choice but for now I'm taking the guy I've already seen do it multiple times.

[warriorfan]

At this point right now the answer is CP3 for me. Since I'm not a ringtard I appreciate that Paul has played outstanding in multiple playoff series throughout his career. I know what he's capable of. Davis has been good so far but it's still yet to be seen if he can play consistently well in the postseason and be a factor there. Anyone who actually watches games instead of just looking at team results knows Paul is a very strong performer in the playoffs.

Davis may ultimately prove to be the better choice but for now I'm taking the guy I've already seen do it multiple times.

by "do it" you mean "flame out of the playoffs" right?

[Fire Colangelo]

I'm gonna take the best PG in the league since 2008.

Davis can prove me wrong this upcoming season though.

[inclinerator]

chris paul

[wally_world]

Aside from the obvious points already brought up, the one that didn't/isn't going to demand out of New Orleans

[iamgine]

Well I know you would take Paul, giney
Wrong, I'd take Jeremy Lin.

[Lebron23]

Give me Anthony Davis. He's a sure thing. And he had a better resume than Paul in College.

[KnittingRyu]

Davis.

[CarlosBoozer]

With this new Era of weak big men, I'll take Davis

[Al Thornton]

davis and there's not even any consideration

he has close to as much skill and understanding of the game as paul with a ridiculous body that is unlike anyone else in the league.

[Naero]

Pretty debatable.

I can see why others see equivocality in that notion, but Anthony Davis' near-superlative defense is what tipped the scales for me. As defense is half of the game, it's hard not to outrank one player over another if they have tremendous upside in that dimension, unless they are vastly inferior on the other end; that was not the case, however, as Anthony Davis was the only player last season to average 24-plus PPG on 53-plus-percent field-goal percentage, and he one-upped Chris Paul's per in his third year (2007-08; 28.3 PER) with a league-leading PER of 30.8.

If Anthony Davis' team collectively managed to win 55 games this season as Paul's did in 2007-08, which is easily envisionable had The Brow not been sidelined for 14 games, there is no dissuading to me that he would not have won MVP this season.

[bobopenguin]

is this thread a joke?

real comparison is Lebron/AD/Cousin/Deron.

[SugarHill]

Anthony Davis—not just based on future-expected potentiality, but also because he's already played better than Chris Paul has at his peak (also coincidentally his third year in the league—the same juncture Anthony Davis is at now).

Chris Paul is an incredible Point Guard and has all-time great potential if the Clippers start hanging up their first banners in his time, but this era has ushered in a flurry of superstar Point Guards, which detracts away from Chris Paul's indispensability.

Name me more than a few players who have Anthony Davis' size, DPoY-contending defense, crunch-time prowess (look up the metrics; he was the most efficient clutch player last season BY FAR), and his ability to spread the floor with the jumpshot he developed while growing up as a guard before hitting his growth spurt.

To me, Anthony Davis has already proven he is the best player in; only a healthy, motivated Kevin Durant will rival that. Chris Paul, on the other hand, has never even been the clear-cut-best Point Guard in the league.
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09 Paul > Davis right now

The disrespect Paul gets on this board is ridiculous. And not just that post. This whole damn thread damn

[qrich]

Chris Paul is one of the greatest point guards of all time, Davis may never reach that high of a ranking among big men of all time.

However, assuming we are talking from this point forward, I'd take Anthony Davis, due to how watered down big men are, while, I can still acquire a solid point much easier, as guys like Jeff Teague and Ty Lawson are among the middle of point rankings.

[Legends66NBA7]

I'm pretty sure Davis would have been selected ahead of Paul if they were both drafted at the ages they came into the draft.

[Derka]

Davis and its not even close.

[Fallen Angel]

2009 Chris Paul is still better than Anthony Davis' best season.

Give me CP3

[Marchesk]

Is this a serious question?

Always take the elite big man, unless we're talking about an MJ or Magic caliber guard. Davis at 21 years of age had a 30.8 PER. How many players in history have had that?

24.4/10.2/2.9 blocks on 54%

I'm taking that over any PG in the league, even Westbrook.

[SugarHill]

Is this a serious question?

Always take the elite big man, unless we're talking about an MJ or Magic caliber guard. Davis at 21 years of age had a 30.8 PER. How many players in history have had that?

24.4/10.2/2.9 blocks on 54%

I'm taking that over any PG in the league, even Westbrook.
Last year, only 4 players had a higher PER than Whiteside.

Also guys like Duncan, Kobe, Dirk never had 30 PER so what does it really mean? Paul actually had a 30 PER.

[Marchesk]

I'm pretty sure Davis would have been selected ahead of Paul if they were both drafted at the ages they came into the draft.

Seeing as how Bogut was drafted ahead of Paul, I'd say yes.

[Fallen Angel]

Anthony Davis isn't an elite big man when talking All-Time. He is a great statsheet stuffer, though.

When he can develop enough to win one playoff game when being defended by a 6'6" PF then I'll take him, but right now he isn't he ready.

[SugarHill]

Anthony Davis isn't an elite big man when talking All-Time. He is a great statsheet stuffer, though.

When he can develop enough to win one playoff game when being defended by a 6'6" PF then I'll take him, but right now he isn't he ready.
to be fair, most elite all time big men were still in college at his age or just rookies

[Marchesk]

Last year, only 4 players had a higher PER than Whiteside.

Also guys like Duncan, Kobe, Dirk never had 30 PER so what does it really mean? Paul actually had a 30 PER.

Yeah, but you take PER and also look at their other stats. Davis's stats at 21 years of age has to rank up there pretty high all-time.

[SugarHill]

Yeah, but you take PER and also look at their other stats. Davis's stats at 21 years of age has to rank up there pretty high all-time.
They're great for for his age. Statistically, 09 Paul is still better

23/5.5/11/3stls on 50% shooting...30 PER

lead league in assists and steals
3rd in PER to all time season LeBron and peaking Wade
top 3 in almost all advanced stats

[juju151111]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

09 Paul > Davis right now

The disrespect Paul gets on this board is ridiculous. And not just that post. This whole damn thread damn
How was 09 Cp better 15 Davis

[juju151111]

Anthony Davis isn't an elite big man when talking All-Time. He is a great statsheet stuffer, though.

When he can develop enough to win one playoff game when being defended by a 6'6" PF then I'll take him, but right now he isn't he ready.
They didn't lose because of him. His team was injured and the rest didn't show up. Thats like saying Mj didn't play good in 86 because they lose.

[juju151111]

They're great for for his age. Statistically, 09 Paul is still better

23/5.5/11/3stls on 50% shooting...30 PER

lead league in assists and steals
3rd in PER to all time season LeBron and peaking Wade
top 3 in almost all advanced stats
Davis still had the higher Per and was more efficientl and played better in the playoffs

[SugarHill]

Davis still had the higher Per and was more efficientl and played better in the playoffs
PG shooting 50% >>>>>>>> big shooting 54 off lobs and transition

PER is barely higher and PER means nothing. You might as well say 2015 Davis is better than any version of Duncan and Kobe

[juju151111]

PG shooting 50% >>>>>>>> big shooting 54 off lobs and transition

PER is barely higher and PER means nothing. You might as well say 2015 Davis is better than any version of Duncan and Kobe
Nope we are comparing cp and AD thats it. Ad was also a +4 defensively. I would choose Ad over him and AD had the better playoffs and not to mention AD is younger and did it in his 3rd season

[j3lademaster]

They didn't lose because of him. His team was injured and the rest didn't show up. Thats like saying Mj didn't play good in 86 because they lose.this. 31/11/3 on 54% shooting on perhaps the leagues best defense. He was by himself out there, would he have more respect if he were able to steal a game or two in the east? Cant believe you're going to put that on a 21 yo.

[SugarHill]

Nope we are comparing cp and AD thats it. Ad was also a +4 defensively. I would choose Ad over him and AD had the better playoffs and not to mention AD is younger and did it in his 3rd season
how long in this league do you think chris paul was in 2009? :lol

as for bold....what? if your arguments are situational and conflict later on with a different agenda then they're pointless. either PER means something or it doesn't

[juju151111]

how long in this league do you think chris paul was in 2009? :lol

as for bold....what? if your arguments are situational and conflict later on with a different agenda then they're pointless. either PER means something or it doesn't
Pee isn't the end all be all of anything. It can help a argument through because its good at rating top players in the league. AD also was for superior DRAPM and a better playoffs. Cp was older amd was in his 4th season. He was 23.

[juju151111]

this. 31/11/3 on 54% shooting on perhaps the leagues best defense. He was by himself out there, would he have more respect if he were able to steal a game or two in the east? Cant believe you're going to put that on a 21 yo.
Exactly

[juju151111]

this. 31/11/3 on 54% shooting on perhaps the leagues best defense. He was by himself out there, would he have more respect if he were able to steal a game or two in the east? Cant believe you're going to put that on a 21 yo.
Exactly against the championship team

[Leroy Jetson]

Does anyone doubt that even current Davis on this clippers team with him replacing Griffin but having an equivalent PG like at least Kyrie level,would have made it past the second round, if not a title. Prime Davis on that team would get several titles. Meanwhile I doubt Paul gets these Pelicans to the playoffs in this West. Maybe Prime Paul but they don't get out of the first round.

[Vaniiiia]

Davis is definitely better than Paul..

There's a lot of guys I'd take over Paul in a draft. It's been proven time and time again that small PG's, especially pass first PG's(though Paul can score very well) do not win championships as the best player.

I'd definitely take Davis over Kobe in a draft. I think Paul vs. Kobe is a better question.

[sd3035]

Anthony Davis, and I'd punch Chris Paul in the mouth.

This is the correct answer

[Derka]

Does anyone doubt that even current Davis on this clippers team with him replacing Griffin but having an equivalent PG like at least Kyrie level,would have made it past the second round, if not a title. Prime Davis on that team would get several titles. Meanwhile I doubt Paul gets these Pelicans to the playoffs in this West. Maybe Prime Paul but they don't get out of the first round.

We haven't even seen Prime Davis yet. That's the scary part.

[Wade's Rings]

People using Advanced Stats to compare Players :oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

CP3 wasn't the first pick in his own draft, whereas AD was the first pick by a mile.

CP3's best season was just as good as the season AD just put up, but a star big is a safer pick than a small guard in the draft. I'd draft AD if they were both in the same draft.....I mean, GM's picked Bogut, Marvin Williams, and Deron Williams over CP3....

[chips93]

davis and there's not even any consideration

he has close to as much skill and understanding of the game as paul with a ridiculous body that is unlike anyone else in the league.

nah, not really at all

davis has a nice jumper and touch around the basket, but there is a reason he was a nobody as a high school player when he was 6'2.

[kshutts1]

I think it's pretty fair to say that Paul is the better player of the two, but I'd pick Davis, in a draft, every single time and not have a second thought.

[Al Thornton]

nah, not really at all

davis has a nice jumper and touch around the basket, but there is a reason he was a nobody as a high school player when he was 6'2.

i don't know anything about high school basketball but when i watch him in the nba he makes the correct reads and decisions close to as often as paul and this was only his 3rd year

also touch and shot are probably the two most important things to have. his handle is good enough and his timing defensively is ridiculous too. i feel like people don't really get how dominant he is

[sd3035]

I think it's pretty fair to say that Paul is the better player of the two, but I'd pick Davis, in a draft, every single time and not have a second thought.

If fair means wrong, then yes

[G0ATbe]

Davis. CP3 has already proven that he ain't winning shit whether you surround him with talent or not.

[Young X]

Aside from the obvious points already brought up, the one that didn't/isn't going to demand out of New OrleansChris did that, so hopefully he won't have to go through that

[Al Thornton]

Chris did that, so hopefully he won't have to go through that
probably does happen again though, the management in new orleans is really bad

[TheMarkMadsen]

So if you're picking Paul what are you going to put around him that gives you a better chance at winning a ring than with AD..

seems like building a championship team around Paul isn't exactly that easy.. all nba PF, best rebounding big in the league.. championship coach.. still hasn't made the WCF..

you think if Davis in his mid 20's has an all nba guard and the league leader in assist on his team that they won't be making the WCF and finals almost every year..

honest thought..

[Cold soul]

Anthony Davis, easily.

[bobopenguin]

Davis. CP3 has already proven that he ain't winning shit whether you surround him with talent or not.

to be fair, the actual championship series last season was clippers vs spurs, and clipper won.

[Naero]

Davis may never reach that high of a ranking among big men of all time.
.

:biggums:

That is premature, and you would need to assume that a career-derailing injury plagues him for him not to etch himself as an all-time great...

His impact in his third year already bites at the heels of

[FreezingTsmoove]

Chris Paul

Im not going to sit here and act like AD hasnt been injured every year hes been in the league

[rmt]

Chris Paul is one of the greatest point guards of all time, Davis may never reach that high of a ranking among big men of all time.

However, assuming we are talking from this point forward, I'd take Anthony Davis, due to how watered down big men are, while, I can still acquire a solid point much easier, as guys like Jeff Teague and Ty Lawson are among the middle of point rankings.

They are not being compared to all-time greats at each respective position - they are being compared against each other and what each brings to the game. This is no contest - the defensive impact that Davis brings outweighs what difference Paul brings on the offensive end. It's not like Davis is a slouch on that end either. Always go with the big man - much easier to build around.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Anthony Davis 100 million percent.

I love CP3 but Davis is potentially an era.