I predicted this when being gay became mainstream and accepted.. this is unbelievable

[sweggeh]

I said this when being gay became "normal". They started saying that being gay was something you are born with. Which I believe is not true at all, but thats not the point here.

When being gay became accepted, next was the transgenders. Now, just like I (and many others) predicted, PEDOPHILES are the latest group trying to make their "orientation" acceptable by society and mainstream.

I mean, where will this end? They are saying just as being gay is something people are born with, pedos are born pedos. So its not their fault and they should be allowed to do what they do.

You think Im joking? I found this from a interview with psychologist Dr Umar Johnson on the breakfast club. He is a controversial guy, and I dont agree with everything he says, but what he says about being gay not being something you are born with is 100% true. If it was, you wouldnt find that -

- Children who suffer sexual abuse are more likely to become gay or lesbian
- Children without a same sex parent (boy without father, girl without mother), are more likely to be gay or lesbian.
- People who have been hurt by the opposite sex in some way (for example psychological and emotional abuse by a partner) are more likely to be gay or lesbian
- You wouldnt find many cases of people being straight their whole lives, having a heterosexual marriage, and 10 years into their marriage 'finding out' they are gay.

This are all facts. And they all obviously point to attraction being something you develop, not something you are born to.

NOW LETS GET TO THE MAIN POINT OF THIS THREAD. In that video with Dr Umar Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rL7gnBwv_g, skip to 22.11, there is a point where he says that there is an organisation out there called the NAAMBL. That stands for the North American Association for Man and Boy Love. These mother****ers are trying to normalize and legalize this shit!

:biggums:

THESE GUYS ALREADY EXIST! FFS! How has someone not arrested all these people yet? How can you possibly set up an organisation like this? Its all pointing to this sick shit to be allowed, just as being gay became okay and just as cutting off your ***** and being a 'woman' was allowed.

Its predicted by many psychologists that sometime in the near future, pedophilia will be list in the DSM (which is like the psychology bible) as an sexual orientation rather than a mental illness. In fact in the DSM 5, the latest version, they already listed it under sexual orientation and when people complained they got it changed.

The signs are here people. Homosexuals opened up the doors and now all the sickos are running through it.

[iamgine]

It's true that being gay is not something we're born with. Being straight is also not something we're born with. Both are developed after birth.

We're still at the territory of all parties who are able to consent, consenting here.

When we cross over that, then we can worry.

[MMM]

People are not born gay but be clear that there is no choice in the matter. OP didn't choose to be a ****** but fell into the wrong crowd here on ISH.

[sweggeh]

People are not born gay but be clear that there is no choice in the matter. OP didn't choose to be a ****** but fell into the wrong crowd here on ISH.

Read the ****in post you ******. Stop focusing on the part that doesnt matter.

There is a pedophile organisation fighting to make their sick shit legal. And all you can do is make crappy jokes. :facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

Boy loving f*ggots deserve every painful thing they get.

[NumberSix]

It's true that being gay is not something we're born with. Being straight is also not something we're born with. Both are developed after birth.

We're still at the territory of all parties who are able to consent, consenting here.

When we cross over that, then we can worry.
Straight and gay are not comparable. Opposite sex attraction is a key element of human nature. Same sex attraction against human nature. Our species exists through opposite sex relationships. It's what we are.

Being straight is like a lion that kills other animals and eats the meat. Being gay is like a lion that doesn't want meat and only eats grass. One is part of its nature, the other is against its nature.

[iamgine]

Straight and gay are not comparable. Opposite sex attraction is a key element of human nature. Same sex attraction against human nature. Our species exists through opposite sex relationships. It's what we are.

Being straight is like a lion that kills other animals and eats the meat. Being gay is like a lion that doesn't want meat and only eats grass. One is part of its nature, the other is against its nature.
Sure but it's not something we're born with.

[fiddy]

This is nothing new, and it was widely accepted long time ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

If homos are allowed to have rights, why not the other mentally ill people? Either ban homosexuality or allow pedophilia, anything other is just double standards and hypocrisy.
lmao

[Lensanity]

Pedophilia is a mental illness that should be greatest with heavy counseling and therapy to prevent horrible things from happening. Instead, pedos are hated so much that they can't tell ANYBODY, even a health professional. This causes more child molestations.

[Derka]

Umar Johnson is a lunatic.

[KevinNYC]

Re: I predicted this .....

You predicted the existence of an organization that has existed since 1978?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

Founded 2 December 1978

[KevinNYC]

If homos are allowed to have rights, why not the other mentally ill people? Either ban homosexuality or allow pedophilia, anything other is just double standards and hypocrisy.

or the recognition that there's a differences between an adult having sex with an adult and an adult having sex with a minor.

[UK2K]

I believe the premise is:

If you cant help but be gay, and we all must now accept it....

Can we really punish pedos for something they cant help?

[KevinNYC]

I believe the premise is:

If you cant help but be gay, and we all must now accept it....

Can we really punish pedos for something they cant help?
The punishment is not for being a pedophile. The punishment happens when you commit a crime.

[Lensanity]

The punishment is not for being a pedophile. The punishment happens when you commit a crime.
Bull ****ing shit


Tell an acquaintance that you are a pedophile but you don't molest children. See what they think of you after that.

Pedos are shamed unlike any other group of people in the world. It is a mental illness that you aren't born with (nobody is born gay either) and it needs to be treated by mental health professionals. There should be treatment centers for pedophiles who want to have healthy sexual minds. This would prevent many child molestations from ever happening. There should also be an option for gay people who want to be straight to seek therapy to help them achieve their goals if they wish.

Being gay or a pedophile is not a choice and you are not born with it. Is is something that is developed through life experiences. Getting molested as a child makes you more likely to be a pedophile and missing a same sex parent makes you more likely to be gay, etc. We need to wake the **** up and treat these things as mental illnesses because that is exactly what they are by every possible definition.

[KevinNYC]

Bull ****ing shit


Tell an acquaintance that you are a pedophile but you don't molest children. See what they think of you after that.

Punishment implies the legal system. We arrest and punish pedophiles when they commit a crime.


It is a mental illness that you aren't born with (nobody is born gay either) and it needs to be treated by mental health professionals. There should be treatment centers for pedophiles who want to have healthy sexual minds. This would prevent many child molestations from ever happening. There should also be an option for gay people who want to be straight to seek therapy to help them achieve their goals if they wish.

Being gay or a pedophile is not a choice and you are not born with it. Is is something that is developed through life experiences. Getting molested as a child makes you more likely to be a pedophile and missing a same sex parent makes you more likely to be gay, etc. We need to wake the **** up and treat these things as mental illnesses because that is exactly what they are by every possible definition.Any evidence for that that doesn't come from the bottom of a bong?

[Dbrog]

I believe the premise is:

If you cant help but be gay, and we all must now accept it....

Can we really punish pedos for something they cant help?

This is indeed, despite what people may say here, consistent logic. People don't want to hear it, but you can't defend one and not the other (in terms of ability to control orientation; not speaking about the acts associated with each).

Unfortunately, working with pedophilia, you aren't trying to "make them like adults and dislike sexual thinking about children." This would be the same as conversion therapy for gays (a horrible practice which is banned by all major mental health organizations). The aim is to get a pedophile to function under societies rules. Get them support groups. As others have said in this thread, they are instantly outcasted by society which isn't going to produce good outcomes. You aren't going to make their urges go away, but if they can find some way to satisfy them without hurting any children or breaking laws, then society wins and the pedophile lives a happier and more productive life.

[Lensanity]

Punishment implies the legal system. We arrest and punish pedophiles when they commit a crime.

Any evidence for that that doesn't come from the bottom of a bong?
Http://www.google.com

[Lensanity]

This is indeed, despite what people may say here, consistent logic. People don't want to hear it, but you can't defend one and not the other (in terms of ability to control orientation; not speaking about the acts associated with each).

Unfortunately, working with pedophilia, you aren't trying to "make them like adults and dislike sexual thinking about children." This would be the same as conversion therapy for gays (a horrible practice which is banned by all major mental health organizations). The aim is to get a pedophile to function under societies rules. Get them support groups. As others have said in this thread, they are instantly outcasted by society which isn't going to produce good outcomes. You aren't going to make their urges go away, but if they can find some way to satisfy them without hurting any children or breaking laws, then society wins and the pedophile lives a happier and more productive life.
Can you explain why it is a horrible practice?

[KevinNYC]

Http://www.google.com
get to work, stoner.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I believe the premise is:

If you cant help but be gay, and we all must now accept it....

Can we really punish pedos for something they cant help?

Pedophiles are only punished when they act on their sexual urges..

They are NOT punished simply for existing--organizations like NAMBLA wouldn't exist if that were the case.

[iamgine]

I believe the premise is:

If you cant help but be gay, and we all must now accept it....

Can we really punish pedos for something they cant help?
I assume by "punish" you don't mean by the legal system but more social wise.

When something becomes more normal, social rules tend to change. We aren't "forced" to accept it because it's something they can't help, we are "forced" to accept because that's the new social standard.

For example, it used to be that black people were considered lower class citizen and the idea of women voting was ridiculous. That was the social standard back then. You would be "forced" to adopt those standards back then too.

[fiddy]

or the recognition that there's a differences between an adult having sex with an adult and an adult having sex with a minor.
I cant make a difference between equally mentally ill people.

[Dbrog]

Can you explain why it is a horrible practice?

http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy

This article encompasses most of why it's horrible. There is even a research study in a link on here led by a task force of the APA if you are REALLY interested in the nitty gritty.

I suppose the TLDR of this would be: No valid research indicates any positive change from this practice and actually many times produces harmful results which violates the ethical principle of non-maleficence (meaning do no harm to clients).

[Lensanity]

Pedophiles are only punished when they act on their sexual urges..

They are NOT punished simply for existing--organizations like NAMBLA wouldn't exist if that were the case.
They may not be punished legally but they are punished and shamed in society instead of being encouraged to seek professional help which would prevent child molestations from happening.

[KingBeasley08]

NAMBLA?

you mean the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

[KnittingRyu]

I said this when being gay became "normal". They started saying that being gay was something you are born with. Which I believe is not true at all, but thats not the point here.

When being gay became accepted, next was the transgenders. Now, just like I (and many others) predicted, PEDOPHILES are the latest group trying to make their "orientation" acceptable by society and mainstream.

I mean, where will this end? They are saying just as being gay is something people are born with, pedos are born pedos. So its not their fault and they should be allowed to do what they do.

You think Im joking? I found this from a interview with psychologist Dr Umar Johnson on the breakfast club. He is a controversial guy, and I dont agree with everything he says, but what he says about being gay not being something you are born with is 100% true. If it was, you wouldnt find that -

- Children who suffer sexual abuse are more likely to become gay or lesbian
- Children without a same sex parent (boy without father, girl without mother), are more likely to be gay or lesbian.
- People who have been hurt by the opposite sex in some way (for example psychological and emotional abuse by a partner) are more likely to be gay or lesbian
- You wouldnt find many cases of people being straight their whole lives, having a heterosexual marriage, and 10 years into their marriage 'finding out' they are gay.

This are all facts. And they all obviously point to attraction being something you develop, not something you are born to.

NOW LETS GET TO THE MAIN POINT OF THIS THREAD. In that video with Dr Umar Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rL7gnBwv_g, skip to 22.11, there is a point where he says that there is an organisation out there called the NAAMBL. That stands for the North American Association for Man and Boy Love. These mother****ers are trying to normalize and legalize this shit!

:biggums:

THESE GUYS ALREADY EXIST! FFS! How has someone not arrested all these people yet? How can you possibly set up an organisation like this? Its all pointing to this sick shit to be allowed, just as being gay became okay and just as cutting off your ***** and being a 'woman' was allowed.

Its predicted by many psychologists that sometime in the near future, pedophilia will be list in the DSM (which is like the psychology bible) as an sexual orientation rather than a mental illness. In fact in the DSM 5, the latest version, they already listed it under sexual orientation and when people complained they got it changed.

The signs are here people. Homosexuals opened up the doors and now all the sickos are running through it.

These are very different issues, LOLCATS. One involves 2 consenting adults, and one involves violating children who don't know better and therefore can't give informed consent which can be very harmful to the child. People shouldn't be imprisoned for being attracted to children, but they definitely should be for acting on it.

[KevinNYC]

NAMBLA?

you mean the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

Yeah, OP is discovering something that South Park made fun of 15 years ago.

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/362/922/922362.jpg

[KNOW1EDGE]

Umar Johnson is a lunatic.

For real.

Racist, narcissistic, arrogant and ignorant black man who hates whites and blames all of black people's problems on other people. -sh1t has become pretty common nowadays in the black community

[Megabox!]

MTV pushing the gay agenda hard as hell too. They have multiple shows about gay people, the VMAS had an entire segment dedicated to trannies. Shit is.......weird

[NumberSix]

For real.

Racist, narcissistic, arrogant and ignorant black man who hates whites and blames all of black people's problems on other people. -sh1t has become pretty common nowadays in the black community
I don't think its as common as you probably think it is. The vast majority of black Americans don't even agree with the "black lives matters" narrative. I would bet that a higher percentage of whites believe the "everything is white people's fault" idiocy than blacks. These whites have a weird kind of superiority complex that think that the entire world revolves around and is a result of the actions of white people. These people need to get over themselves. There's an entire world out there outside of first world whites.

[poido123]

I said this when being gay became "normal". They started saying that being gay was something you are born with. Which I believe is not true at all, but thats not the point here.

When being gay became accepted, next was the transgenders. Now, just like I (and many others) predicted, PEDOPHILES are the latest group trying to make their "orientation" acceptable by society and mainstream.

I mean, where will this end? They are saying just as being gay is something people are born with, pedos are born pedos. So its not their fault and they should be allowed to do what they do.

You think Im joking? I found this from a interview with psychologist Dr Umar Johnson on the breakfast club. He is a controversial guy, and I dont agree with everything he says, but what he says about being gay not being something you are born with is 100% true. If it was, you wouldnt find that -

- Children who suffer sexual abuse are more likely to become gay or lesbian
- Children without a same sex parent (boy without father, girl without mother), are more likely to be gay or lesbian.
- People who have been hurt by the opposite sex in some way (for example psychological and emotional abuse by a partner) are more likely to be gay or lesbian
- You wouldnt find many cases of people being straight their whole lives, having a heterosexual marriage, and 10 years into their marriage 'finding out' they are gay.

This are all facts. And they all obviously point to attraction being something you develop, not something you are born to.

NOW LETS GET TO THE MAIN POINT OF THIS THREAD. In that video with Dr Umar Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rL7gnBwv_g, skip to 22.11, there is a point where he says that there is an organisation out there called the NAAMBL. That stands for the North American Association for Man and Boy Love. These mother****ers are trying to normalize and legalize this shit!

:biggums:

THESE GUYS ALREADY EXIST! FFS! How has someone not arrested all these people yet? How can you possibly set up an organisation like this? Its all pointing to this sick shit to be allowed, just as being gay became okay and just as cutting off your ***** and being a 'woman' was allowed.

Its predicted by many psychologists that sometime in the near future, pedophilia will be list in the DSM (which is like the psychology bible) as an sexual orientation rather than a mental illness. In fact in the DSM 5, the latest version, they already listed it under sexual orientation and when people complained they got it changed.

The signs are here people. Homosexuals opened up the doors and now all the sickos are running through it.


There is no way that paedophiles will become acceptable like Gays have done.

One is a criminal offense and the other is simply a sexual orientation.

Let's get off the crack Sweg :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

Agree with OP, and good to know there is someone else on this site who also watches those breakfast club interviews :oldlol:

Sure they are long, but entertaining af (Usually). Charlamagne my nigqa, Yee sexy as hell, Envy a bitch.