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TripleA
09-12-2015, 10:54 PM
Seriously I look at those names and I am disgusted. Most of the best young players in the 2000s came from late 90s. Why were the new players from 2000 to 2002 so bad and got so much better in 2003 to now.

dubeta
09-12-2015, 10:59 PM
yao ming, amare, zach randolph, jamal crawford

AnaheimLakers24
09-12-2015, 10:59 PM
Big time trash. The best we got was 2/6 and that shit is laughable

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-12-2015, 11:00 PM
yao ming, amare, zach randolph, jamal crawford
Yao was overrated and barely a positive impact player. He only got burn because he was tall and Korean

Crawford sucks

BigNBAfan
09-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Yao was overrated and barely a positive impact player. He only got burn because he was tall and Korean

Crawford sucks

im pretty sure he was filipino

Duderonomy
09-12-2015, 11:24 PM
yao ming, amare, zach randolph, jamal crawford
You forgot Pau, Tyson Chandler, Tony Parker, Boozer, Joe Johnson, Nene, Tayshaun , Gilbert, Richard Jefferson.

the mesiah
09-13-2015, 10:52 AM
im pretty sure he was filipino
I could have sworn he was Japanese..:rolleyes:

senelcoolidge
09-13-2015, 11:30 AM
Well was it the 2000's when they had that European craze and also the high schooler's. Those guys contributed to the high amount of busts.

Mr. Jabbar
09-13-2015, 12:30 PM
Big time trash. The best we got was 2/6 and that shit is laughable

lebron is pretty much the reason i watch the nba but this post is 100% true hard facts.

20Four
09-13-2015, 12:45 PM
Same here....big lebronze fan but he is trash

KelticForce1349
09-13-2015, 02:56 PM
I could have sworn he was Japanese..:rolleyes:

Dude....he was from Thailand. How the F@(k do you guys not know this on Basketball forum like ISH??? :confusedshrug:

ralph_i_el
09-13-2015, 02:58 PM
Same here....big lebronze fan but he is trash
Have you ever made a post containing an actual thought about basketball?

You're like a dingleberry hanging from the ass of actual trolls

swagga
09-13-2015, 03:16 PM
Seriously I look at those names and I am disgusted. Most of the best young players in the 2000s came from late 90s. Why were the new players from 2000 to 2002 so bad and got so much better in 2003 to now.

it's all about development.

in the 90s, when the players drafted in the early 2000s grew up (teens - most critical phase), they grew up with:
- the nba was implementing advanced defensive schemes after the trigger happy 80s which combined with hand checking made offenses stagnate a lot, leading to iso heavy games. This made it look like iso ball was a good way to play and not a bailout play, and it also made it look that fundamentals weren't critical.
- the self entitled hip hop basketball star was cool, so a lot of young players failed to understand that after you bully your way through highschool/college with basic skills you need to continue learning to play ... and1 also rose because of this.
- the jordan hysteria, people didn't see the fundamentals, they only saw the dunks and the rim attack, a lot of young athletic players lacked a good jumper because of this

I was in my teens in the 90s so I seen this shit live. All the older brothers hated the new brand of basketball that was poured in the youth heads : drive fearlessly to the rim without thinking or looking to pass, selfish me first mentality, no post skills. Add to that the thug mentality and you get a dumbed down generation.

Bottom line: the talent was there, the athleticism was there, but it was a lost to idiocy.
You look at all these players (and others like them): kwame brown, kenyon martin, darius miles, olakandi, jamal crawford, steve francis, maggette, larry hughes ... all of the had heaps of talent, but they never developed as players beyond the street looking game. Dumbed down.

swagga
09-13-2015, 03:21 PM
imo from 2003 onwards you got kids which got their first real basketball taste with the 2nd 3peat jordan, shaq, penny (had lots of fans!), kidd, prime hardaway, hakeem, payton, thus more passing-game influences.

swagga
09-13-2015, 03:29 PM
regarding the 2003 onward being better, these kids also grew up with the shortened 3p line and heavier euro influences, which clearly emphasized better shooting, passing, and spacing in general, so that has to be a factor too.

90sgoat
09-13-2015, 04:02 PM
it's all about development.

in the 90s, when the players drafted in the early 2000s grew up (teens - most critical phase), they grew up with:
- the nba was implementing advanced defensive schemes after the trigger happy 80s which combined with hand checking made offenses stagnate a lot, leading to iso heavy games. This made it look like iso ball was a good way to play and not a bailout play, and it also made it look that fundamentals weren't critical.
- the self entitled hip hop basketball star was cool, so a lot of young players failed to understand that after you bully your way through highschool/college with basic skills you need to continue learning to play ... and1 also rose because of this.
- the jordan hysteria, people didn't see the fundamentals, they only saw the dunks and the rim attack, a lot of young athletic players lacked a good jumper because of this

I was in my teens in the 90s so I seen this shit live. All the older brothers hated the new brand of basketball that was poured in the youth heads : drive fearlessly to the rim without thinking or looking to pass, selfish me first mentality, no post skills. Add to that the thug mentality and you get a dumbed down generation.

Bottom line: the talent was there, the athleticism was there, but it was a lost to idiocy.
You look at all these players (and others like them): kwame brown, kenyon martin, darius miles, olakandi, jamal crawford, steve francis, maggette, larry hughes ... all of the had heaps of talent, but they never developed as players beyond the street looking game. Dumbed down.

This is true.:cheers: great post.