View Full Version : When is the last time mainstream music was this good?
Lensanity
09-13-2015, 07:49 PM
We are getting blessed fam
First of all, Hip Hop is no longer dead. In 2005-2010 that shit was certified trash but now it is 1,000,000 times better. We still have Kanye, upgraded from Lil Wayne to Drake, autotune is dead, J Cole and Kendrick are mainstream and easily top 15 rappers of all time (IMO), the biggest pop star (Taylor Swift) actually makes pretty good music with some substance, and now The Weeknd is making Pop cool again while also creating a new R&B style genre and will develop into the Michael Jackson of this generation.
Every genre has become more diverse sounding, quality matters, music is good :applause:
Even Justin Bieber makes good music now :bowdown:
dkmwise
09-13-2015, 08:09 PM
i would say early 90's mainstream music was even better because there was also great mainstream rock back then
outbreak
09-13-2015, 09:20 PM
mainstream music is terrible.
dazzer87
09-13-2015, 09:30 PM
late 90s....early 2000s
fsvr54
09-13-2015, 09:46 PM
This is probably the worst era ever (in modern ages)
Lensanity
09-13-2015, 09:52 PM
This is probably the worst era ever (in modern ages)
How the hell is this worse than 2005-2010?
That was the WOAT era. So many terrible rappers, pop was garbage, no originality, autotune was everywhere, yuck.
KyrieTheFuture
09-13-2015, 10:28 PM
This era is awful. Fetty Wap is ****ing famous. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber have music careers. Techno music is mainstream. It's all awful.
Edit: You think Drake is good? How old are you?
Lensanity
09-13-2015, 10:44 PM
This era is awful. Fetty Wap is ****ing famous. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber have music careers. Techno music is mainstream. It's all awful.
Edit: You think Drake is good? How old are you?
No, I don't think he's good bUT I also don't think he is bad at all. He is the most popular rapper right now and I can tolerate his music. When Lil Wayne was on top of the rap game he was ****ing terrible and everyone played his shitty music all the time. I couldn't stand it.
thefatmiral
09-13-2015, 10:55 PM
This era is awful. Fetty Wap is ****ing famous. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber have music careers. Techno music is mainstream. It's all awful.
Edit: You think Drake is good? How old are you?
Drake is good. I grew up on 90s rap and he makes some good music. You must not listen to him.
KyrieTheFuture
09-13-2015, 10:56 PM
Drake is good. I grew up on 90s rap and he makes some good music. You must not listen to him.
I can't stand his voice
Lensanity
09-13-2015, 10:57 PM
Drake is good. I grew up on 90s rap and he makes some good music. You must not listen to him.
His beats bang hard in the whip and his r&b is actually good most of the time imo
A lot of his rap sucks. Some is pretty good.
dazzer87
09-13-2015, 11:13 PM
Drake is good. I grew up on 90s rap and he makes some good music. You must not listen to him.
please dont compare that hack drake with 90s rap....:facepalm
andgar923
09-13-2015, 11:38 PM
We are getting blessed fam
First of all, Hip Hop is no longer dead. In 2005-2010 that shit was certified trash but now it is 1,000,000 times better. We still have Kanye, upgraded from Lil Wayne to Drake, autotune is dead, J Cole and Kendrick are mainstream and easily top 15 rappers of all time (IMO), the biggest pop star (Taylor Swift) actually makes pretty good music with some substance, and now The Weeknd is making Pop cool again while also creating a new R&B style genre and will develop into the Michael Jackson of this generation.
Every genre has become more diverse sounding, quality matters, music is good :applause:
Even Justin Bieber makes good music now :bowdown:
STFU
L.Kizzle
09-13-2015, 11:45 PM
Music gets worse every year. Of course, there is a few gems here and there but for the most part mainstream should be called lamestream.
Popular music probably peaked around 1976 and than started to gradually go down from there.
Just2McFly
09-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Music gets worse every year. Of course, there is a few gems here and there but for the most part mainstream should be called lamestream.
Popular music probably peaked around 1976 and than started to gradually go down from there.
peaked around 76???:roll: :roll: :roll:
L.Kizzle
09-13-2015, 11:54 PM
peaked around 76???:roll: :roll: :roll:
Why is that funny? And you laughed three times at that ... :biggums:
But seriously, that's it's peak. That's when everything came to it's forefront. All the elements from jazz, blues, soul, country, rock & roll, rock came to a head at that time. Right before the disco wave really took off.
KNOW1EDGE
09-14-2015, 02:26 AM
You are such a fahgit
D1ck-riding fahgit
Fudge
09-14-2015, 02:28 AM
WORD!
Drake is arguably the greatest musical artist of all-time, and he's one of the faces of MUSIC today.
Aubrey is winning, Abel is winning, therefore CANADA is winning. Truss mi daddy!
LBJMVP
09-14-2015, 02:34 AM
Why is that funny? And you laughed three times at that ... :biggums:
But seriously, that's it's peak. That's when everything came to it's forefront. All the elements from jazz, blues, soul, country, rock & roll, rock came to a head at that time. Right before the disco wave really took off.
how old are you? you said like a grumpy old man saying "music get worse every year"
you don't know talent if you dont think drake is good.
the weekend is ****in killing it
every song fetty wap makes is catchy. if you don't think those songs are catch then your old, plain and simple.
you can hope on the i hate justin bieber bandwagon all you want, but he puts out good songs.
lorde is good, sia is good, future is good.
there are very good artist in every genre right now.
L.Kizzle
09-14-2015, 04:11 AM
how old are you? you said like a grumpy old man saying "music get worse every year"
you don't know talent if you dont think drake is good.
the weekend is ****in killing it
every song fetty wap makes is catchy. if you don't think those songs are catch then your old, plain and simple.
you can hope on the i hate justin bieber bandwagon all you want, but he puts out good songs.
lorde is good, sia is good, future is good.
there are very good artist in every genre right now.
Are you 14? Sounds like it.
Don't even know what a Fetty Wap is. Sounds like a rare Australian insect.
Just2McFly
09-14-2015, 04:30 AM
jeremih's features>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better than anyone else right now in my opinion... i was at a party and heard freak of the week for the first time last night
this n*gga is in god mode right now, reminds me of akon back in the day
L.Kizzle
09-14-2015, 04:32 AM
jeremih's features>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better than anyone else right now in my opinion... i was at a party and heard freak of the week for the first time last night
this n*gga is in god mode right now, reminds me of akon back in the day
This nigha said Jeremiah? His best song is in a jeep commercial ,lol.
Just2McFly
09-14-2015, 04:33 AM
This nigha said Jeremiah? His best song is in a jeep commercial ,lol.
every time you post about music i keep thinking the last time you had sex al green was still secular
L.Kizzle
09-14-2015, 04:37 AM
every time you post about music i keep thinking the last time you had sex al green was still secular
I wasn't even alive when Green was secular.
This is Al Green's greatest song. It's not "I'm So Tired of Being Alone" or "Let's Stay Together."
Al Green: Dream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn3Ova0IarU)
Kblaze8855
09-14-2015, 08:11 AM
every song fetty wap makes is catchy. if you don't think those songs are catch then your old, plain and simple.
Never understood this line of thinking. Im a grown ass man. Why would one expect me to listen to the same thing my 10 year old niece listens to? Not liking some repetitive nonsense bullshit as an adult is not some failing.
Its pretty standard.
andgar923
09-14-2015, 11:45 AM
Mc hammer, vanilla ice, tag team, nelly, pm dawn are all better than your current crop of popular one hit wonders.
If we go to the top tiers it becomes even more of a joke.
2pac, BIG, Nas, Hov, >>>> any of today's top popular rappers
Wanna go more underground or not as 'pop' once again no competition.
Diversity?
Again no competition. Rapped were more diverse, styles were more diverse, the beats were more diverse.
Janet Jackson blows away Beyonc
Jailblazers7
09-14-2015, 11:51 AM
Everyone knows that music peaked with Mozart and it's been downhill ever since.
Lensanity
09-14-2015, 11:52 AM
The best part about today's music is no more rock
What a garbage genre
andgar923
09-14-2015, 11:57 AM
The best part about today's music is no more rock
What a garbage genre
Explains a lot
Lensanity
09-14-2015, 12:01 PM
Explains a lot
Yeah, that you're tone deaf
andgar923
09-14-2015, 12:06 PM
Yeah, that you're tone deaf
Yup, you're 14 years old
Kblaze8855
09-14-2015, 12:32 PM
Mc hammer, vanilla ice, tag team, nelly, pm dawn are all better than your current crop of popular one hit wonders.
....nah homie.
The joke artists have always been about equally awful. Vanilla Ice today would be just another guy we mention when talking about how bad music is these days. Hammer was usually as simplistic as it got. Tag team? Yes I can still do their hits off th top of my head...doesnt make it good. It means I was young and impressionable.
I liked a lot of the old songs....but I cant act like they were just great music. The transition to pop music being awful started before the guys you mention. It started once an artist didnt have to be talented anymore. Go far enough back...to make music...you need musicians....and people who can sing.
Computers remove both of those. And they started some time ago. The poppy computerized beats helped remove actual musicians from the equation and once they could make an average singer sound great there was no turning back. And once the addition of music videos changed how you became popular? The focus went from music to image.
An album is only gonna be so bad when you have say....the funk brothers playing music for the likes of Marvin Gaye or maybe Booker T and the MGs in the studio with a singer the likes of Otis Redding....with Issac Hayes next room over composing songs himself and playing 5 instruments...
Being a talented musician was no longer an issue once the technology arrived.
Barry White had a damn 40 piece orchestra he wrote and produced music for.
Computers made it cheap and easy to make a record through sampling, post production, and so on and then shoot a video to get people interested.
You blow up off your producer, engineer, and video directors talent not your own musical talent.
And that started long ago.
What we have today is just the culmination of it. And some of the people you mentioned were just as guilty of it then.
Even the old great artists struggled to make classics once the standard changed. Ever listen to some of Teddy Pendergrass late 80s remixes to his old classics trying to sound more modern?
If not...dont.
It will hurt.
Uncle Drew
09-14-2015, 12:39 PM
What the **** is a fetty wap?
FKAri
09-14-2015, 02:59 PM
The auto tune era a few years back was worse. But the 90's, 80's and 70's were all better than now (not the 60's tho because the early 60's had the same issues as today). Back then mainstream still had more variety. Nowadays that diversity is largely missing from the mainstream because there are other outlets for alternative music and they don't have to compete with industrially produced pop on the radio.
tmacattack33
09-14-2015, 03:08 PM
Yeah in terms of hiphop it is better now than it was around 2006 when nas made Hip Hop is Dead. Back then it was getting popular for retarded gimmicky songs like Soulja Boy Supaman, This is Why I'm Hot, and Chicken Noodle Soup to tear it up on urban radio. I'm glad that fad is gone.
KyrieTheFuture
09-14-2015, 03:30 PM
how old are you? you said like a grumpy old man saying "music get worse every year"
you don't know talent if you dont think drake is good.
the weekend is ****in killing it
every song fetty wap makes is catchy. if you don't think those songs are catch then your old, plain and simple.
you can hope on the i hate justin bieber bandwagon all you want, but he puts out good songs.
lorde is good, sia is good, future is good.
there are very good artist in every genre right now.
How young are you? You sound like a preteen.
KyrieTheFuture
09-14-2015, 03:34 PM
I don't know what's worse, people who hate contemporary/current music because they never even gave it a chance or those critics who keep doing stupid all-time/greatest lists and always having Aretha Franklin, Rollin Stones, Chuck Berry, all the old-timers in their Top 10, Top 50, Top 100, etc.
One area I can honestly say that current pop is better than its ever been is that artists nowadays actually make great albums rather than just hit singles. Taylor Swift's Fearless and 1989 and Mylie Cyrus' Bangerz are better than anything Britney or Christina ever released.
David Bowie and MJ existed. You can not possibly think that Swift and Miley Cyrus are better.
Kblaze8855
09-14-2015, 05:08 PM
I don't know what's worse, people who hate contemporary/current
music because they never even gave it a chance or those critics who
keep doing stupid all-time/greatest lists and always having Aretha
Franklin, Rollin Stones, Chuck Berry, all the old-timers in their Top 10,
Top 50, Top 100, etc.
As opposed to who?
What is the point of a best ever list that disregards the past?
Plenty of active artists make such lists when justified.....but it isn't often justified. Current times vs all time.....clearly the deck is stacked. Which has the deeper well to draw from?
Music isn't sports. People don't get bigger...faster. It's all music. the entire history of music whittled down to a ten or so greatest would obviously include a lot of people who aren't active right now because the great majority of music ever made wasn't made right now.
andgar923
09-14-2015, 05:12 PM
....nah homie.
The joke artists have always been about equally awful. Vanilla Ice today would be just another guy we mention when talking about how bad music is these days. Hammer was usually as simplistic as it got. Tag team? Yes I can still do their hits off th top of my head...doesnt make it good. It means I was young and impressionable.
I liked a lot of the old songs....but I cant act like they were just great music. The transition to pop music being awful started before the guys you mention. It started once an artist didnt have to be talented anymore. Go far enough back...to make music...you need musicians....and people who can sing.
Computers remove both of those. And they started some time ago. The poppy computerized beats helped remove actual musicians from the equation and once they could make an average singer sound great there was no turning back. And once the addition of music videos changed how you became popular? The focus went from music to image.
An album is only gonna be so bad when you have say....the funk brothers playing music for the likes of Marvin Gaye or maybe Booker T and the MGs in the studio with a singer the likes of Otis Redding....with Issac Hayes next room over composing songs himself and playing 5 instruments...
Being a talented musician was no longer an issue once the technology arrived.
Barry White had a damn 40 piece orchestra he wrote and produced music for.
Computers made it cheap and easy to make a record through sampling, post production, and so on and then shoot a video to get people interested.
You blow up off your producer, engineer, and video directors talent not your own musical talent.
And that started long ago.
What we have today is just the culmination of it. And some of the people you mentioned were just as guilty of it then.
Even the old great artists struggled to make classics once the standard changed. Ever listen to some of Teddy Pendergrass late 80s remixes to his old classics trying to sound more modern?
If not...dont.
It will hurt.
I skinned through most of the post (at work)
But the cats I mentioned are more talented then your Fetty Waps, soulja boys etc.
Better rhyming, better lyricists, better flow, etc
Not that they're good, but def more skilled.
L.Kizzle
09-14-2015, 05:46 PM
Yeah in terms of hiphop it is better now than it was around 2006 when nas made Hip Hop is Dead. Back then it was getting popular for retarded gimmicky songs like Soulja Boy Supaman, This is Why I'm Hot, and Chicken Noodle Soup to tear it up on urban radio. I'm glad that fad is gone.
Have you listened to the radio lately, that fad isn't over. And all that shit sounds the same. It's like they all use the 2-3 same producers and voice effects.
KyrieTheFuture
09-14-2015, 10:13 PM
I have Fearless in my Top 10 greatest albums of all-time so I might be a little biased.
Are you Taylor Swift?
fsvr54
09-14-2015, 11:26 PM
I have Fearless in my Top 10 greatest albums of all-time so I might be a little biased.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
This nikka might actually be serious
andgar923
09-15-2015, 05:02 AM
....nah homie.
The joke artists have always been about equally awful. Vanilla Ice today would be just another guy we mention when talking about how bad music is these days. Hammer was usually as simplistic as it got. Tag team? Yes I can still do their hits off th top of my head...doesnt make it good. It means I was young and impressionable.
I liked a lot of the old songs....but I cant act like they were just great music. The transition to pop music being awful started before the guys you mention. It started once an artist didnt have to be talented anymore. Go far enough back...to make music...you need musicians....and people who can sing.
Computers remove both of those. And they started some time ago. The poppy computerized beats helped remove actual musicians from the equation and once they could make an average singer sound great there was no turning back. And once the addition of music videos changed how you became popular? The focus went from music to image.
An album is only gonna be so bad when you have say....the funk brothers playing music for the likes of Marvin Gaye or maybe Booker T and the MGs in the studio with a singer the likes of Otis Redding....with Issac Hayes next room over composing songs himself and playing 5 instruments...
Being a talented musician was no longer an issue once the technology arrived.
Barry White had a damn 40 piece orchestra he wrote and produced music for.
Computers made it cheap and easy to make a record through sampling, post production, and so on and then shoot a video to get people interested.
You blow up off your producer, engineer, and video directors talent not your own musical talent.
And that started long ago.
What we have today is just the culmination of it. And some of the people you mentioned were just as guilty of it then.
Even the old great artists struggled to make classics once the standard changed. Ever listen to some of Teddy Pendergrass late 80s remixes to his old classics trying to sound more modern?
If not...dont.
It will hurt.
I agree with basically every word typed to a very large extent.
But my main point stands, even the shitty one hit wonders from the past are better than those from the current era, the popular ones are better than current ones, and even the more relatively unknown artists were better than today's.
Of course there's always exceptions in which we can plug in Adele and compare her with say Marianne Faithful, Linda Rondstadt, etc.etc.
But as much as they suck, PM Dawn are more talented than most of today's one hit wonders. And of course we won't even mention how shitty one hit wonders from the 60s and 70s are more talented overall than today's.
andgar923
09-15-2015, 05:04 AM
Fearless > Thriller, Bad, MJ every albums existed.
Bangerz = Thriller, every MJ existed
However, Billie Jean and Beat It >>> any Swift and Mylie songs
I felt Bowie was a much better producer than he was as an artist. He made that great 1977 record with Iggy Pop called Lust For Life. Never really listened to any Bowie's albums, so no real on him.
:biggums: :banghead: :banghead:
andgar923
09-15-2015, 05:04 AM
I have Fearless in my Top 10 greatest albums of all-time so I might be a little biased.
shoot yourself.
KingBeasley08
09-15-2015, 11:21 AM
It's about as good as it always was. Of course a bunch of Uncle Drews in this thread are gonna go on about the good old days when even back then there was a bunch of shit. Only difference is with time, those shit artists have become forgotten and now people think every artist in the 80s was Michael Jackson :oldlol:
andgar923
09-15-2015, 04:41 PM
It's about as good as it always was. Of course a bunch of Uncle Drews in this thread are gonna go on about the good old days when even back then there was a bunch of shit. Only difference is with time, those shit artists have become forgotten and now people think every artist in the 80s was Michael Jackson :oldlol:
I specifically mentioned shitty artists from the past and compared them to today's top hit stars.
And even by shitty standards, today's shitty artists are shittier.
PM Dawn is historically remembered as weak, pop, soft, pop/r&b/rap. Yet they display more skill as rappers than many of today's pop/rap stars.
Nelly who I hated and was usually frowned upon is miles better than some of today's 'hot' rappers.
I'd even select the weak dude from 'Snap' above Fetty Wap, the Im in Love with the Coco cat, etc.etc.
KnittingRyu
09-15-2015, 05:16 PM
We are getting blessed fam
First of all, Hip Hop is no longer dead. In 2005-2010 that shit was certified trash but now it is 1,000,000 times better. We still have Kanye, upgraded from Lil Wayne to Drake, autotune is dead, J Cole and Kendrick are mainstream and easily top 15 rappers of all time (IMO), the biggest pop star (Taylor Swift) actually makes pretty good music with some substance, and now The Weeknd is making Pop cool again while also creating a new R&B style genre and will develop into the Michael Jackson of this generation.
Every genre has become more diverse sounding, quality matters, music is good :applause:
Even Justin Bieber makes good music now :bowdown:
You are the Roy Hibbert of opinions.
Just2McFly
09-15-2015, 09:03 PM
Fearless > Thriller, Bad, MJ every albums existed.
Bangerz = Thriller, every MJ existed
However, Billie Jean and Beat It >>> any Swift and Mylie songs
I felt Bowie was a much better producer than he was as an artist. He made that great 1977 record with Iggy Pop called Lust For Life. Never really listened to any Bowie's albums, so no real on him.
love you but you might need jesus.
Maga_1
09-16-2015, 12:20 AM
Am i the only one who thinks that most of music discussions are pointless?
Music is a "taste", it's a personal opinion... i don't need anyone to tell me who i like or who was better than what i hear, if this era was better than other, etc.
If i like Kendrick i definitelly have to like Pac?
If i like Bon Iver i really have to like Pearl Jam or something similiar?
If i like Avici or Calvin Harris i have to like some old commercial house?
I don't get that.
andgar923
09-16-2015, 05:13 AM
Am i the only one who thinks that most of music discussions are pointless?
Music is a "taste", it's a personal opinion... i don't need anyone to tell me who i like or who was better than what i hear, if this era was better than other, etc.
If i like Kendrick i definitelly have to like Pac?
If i like Bon Iver i really have to like Pearl Jam or something similiar?
If i like Avici or Calvin Harris i have to like some old commercial house?
I don't get that.
I agree music is subjective, but one can also be objective when discussing it.
One can compare two artists that they don't like, and identify which is better by being objective.
I prefer some of the hard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBIPvKIwmPk&ab_channel=sergeant333) house from the late 90s to Avici, but objectively speaking Avici is better on a technical level than most of the hard house that I prefer. There's more layers and technical proficiency in what Avici does over a loop repeating "dildo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU-SKHaopSI&ab_channel=DEAKINOO)" over and over.
But then you have someone like The Prodigy that shows even more technical abilities in their production.
We can compare artists like DMX and Gucci Mane conclude that DMX is the better MC based on different criteria. Same way I can listen to Ariana Grande and conclude that she's a better singer than anybody from TLC, but TLC has a better production team around them with more originality.
I mean, how does one compare the Spice Girls to En Vogue?
How does one go about comparing Jonas Brothers to One Direction?
It isn't solely about taste, that's simply a cop out.
L.Kizzle
09-16-2015, 05:18 AM
Am i the only one who thinks that most of music discussions are pointless?
Music is a "taste", it's a personal opinion... i don't need anyone to tell me who i like or who was better than what i hear, if this era was better than other, etc.
If i like Kendrick i definitelly have to like Pac?
If i like Bon Iver i really have to like Pearl Jam or something similiar?
If i like Avici or Calvin Harris i have to like some old commercial house?
I don't get that.
That's a cop out to say you like the current music and others not to look at you crazy.
Rihanna is better than Diana Ross, because music is subjective.
Miguel is greater than Prince because music is subjective.
Imagine Dragons over the Kinks, because music is subjective.
ThePhantomCreep
09-16-2015, 07:05 AM
Fearless > Thriller, Bad, MJ every albums existed.
Bangerz = Thriller, every MJ existed
However, Billie Jean and Beat It >>> any Swift and Mylie songs
I felt Bowie was a much better producer than he was as an artist. He made that great 1977 record with Iggy Pop called Lust For Life. Never really listened to any Bowie's albums, so no real on him.
The FAIL in this post can be seen from space.
Astronauts are up there laughing at you right now.
tmacattack33
09-16-2015, 12:09 PM
Have you listened to the radio lately, that fad isn't over. And all that shit sounds the same. It's like they all use the 2-3 same producers and voice effects.
I don't think so. The current top 10 airplay hip-hop songs includes: J Cole, Fetty Wap, Drake, Lil Wayne, Rae Sremmurd, Kendrick Lamar, and Wale....the only retarded artist there is Rae Sremmurd.
Maga_1
09-16-2015, 12:19 PM
That's a cop out to say you like the current music and others not to look at you crazy.
Rihanna is better than Diana Ross, because music is subjective.
Miguel is greater than Prince because music is subjective.
Imagine Dragons over the Kinks, because music is subjective.
It's not, it's just a matter of opinion.
Let me give you some examples of how music is a matter of taste.
I love to death ATCQ but i can't mention a group from the 90's or something like that, that i enjoyed at the same joy.
I love Kendrick Lamar but i can only hear 2 or 3 Pac songs.
I love the early Coldplay albums, i can only hear 2 or 3 songs from the last ones.
I love young Snoop and i can't stand most of the last shit, i love young Pharrell and NERD i can't stand the last shit he came up with.
I really enjoy some Miles Davis, John Coltrane, etc ... i can't even mention a currently jazz player (whatever instrument you want).
There is so much contraditory opinions between "eras", i could go all day long.
tmacattack33
09-16-2015, 12:24 PM
It's not, it's just a matter of opinion.
Let me give you some examples of how music is a matter of taste.
I love to death ATCQ but i can't mention a group from the 90's or something like that, that i enjoyed at the same joy.
I love Kendrick Lamar but i can only hear 2 or 3 Pac songs.
I love the early Coldplay albums, i can only hear 2 or 3 songs from the last ones.
I love young Snoop and i can't stand most of the last shit, i love young Pharrell and NERD i can't stand the last shit he came up with.
I really enjoy some Miles Davis, John Coltrane, etc ... i can't even mention a currently jazz player (whatever instrument you want).
There is so much contraditory opinions between "eras", i could go all day long.
I believe it possible to recognize that artist is better and shows more skill than another artist, even though you enjoy listening to the one that you recognize as being inferior skillwise.
I really like Meek Mill songs for some reason and they get me pumped up, and I would rather listen to one of them than a GZA song. Even though I recognize that GZA has literally 5 times more technical skill as an emcee.
andgar923
09-16-2015, 01:29 PM
I believe it possible to recognize that artist is better and shows more skill than another artist, even though you enjoy listening to the one that you recognize as being inferior skillwise.
I really like Meek Mill songs for some reason and they get me pumped up, and I would rather listen to one of them than a GZA song. Even though I recognize that GZA has literally 5 times more technical skill as an emcee.
Exactly
I'd rather listen to punk than black metal, but looking at it objectively black metal is usually technically superior.
chips93
09-16-2015, 02:45 PM
Are you 14? Sounds like it.
Don't even know what a Fetty Wap is. Sounds like a rare Australian insect.
if thats the case then your opinion on today's mainstream music is uninformed, and theres no point sharing it
KyrieTheFuture
09-16-2015, 04:02 PM
I don't think so. The current top 10 airplay hip-hop songs includes: J Cole, Fetty Wap, Drake, Lil Wayne, Rae Sremmurd, Kendrick Lamar, and Wale....the only retarded artist there is Rae Sremmurd.
hmmmm
L.Kizzle
09-16-2015, 04:41 PM
if thats the case then your opinion on today's mainstream music is uninformed, and theres no point sharing it
Not really, I' was basically saying he has a terrible stage name (to match his terrible music)
L.Kizzle
09-16-2015, 04:49 PM
It's not, it's just a matter of opinion.
Let me give you some examples of how music is a matter of taste.
I love to death ATCQ but i can't mention a group from the 90's or something like that, that i enjoyed at the same joy.
I love Kendrick Lamar but i can only hear 2 or 3 Pac songs.
I love the early Coldplay albums, i can only hear 2 or 3 songs from the last ones.
I love young Snoop and i can't stand most of the last shit, i love young Pharrell and NERD i can't stand the last shit he came up with.
I really enjoy some Miles Davis, John Coltrane, etc ... i can't even mention a currently jazz player (whatever instrument you want).
There is so much contraditory opinions between "eras", i could go all day long.
You're mention people for the most part, who critics enjoy. Kendrick is considered one of the top rappers/lyricist today, and would easily fit in in the early-mid 90s. Can't say the same for the likes of Rich Homie Quan.
An saying you like younger Snoop, Coldplay compared to current Snoop, that's not that far fetched. Especially with any artist with 20+ years of experience. I mean, how many people are you gonna find who prefer Prince, Rolling Stones and Stevie Wonder's current music to their glory years?
Current Jazz (in the mainstream) is basically extinct. In this climate, it won't be able to survive. There was a time when you could put a Herbie Hancock, Donald Byrd, George Benson side to side with a Donny Hathaway and Barry White. Could you imagine a current top jazz musician sharing the same bill with Jason Derulo?
Sarcastic
09-16-2015, 08:33 PM
Most music these days is absolutely awful.
L.Kizzle
09-16-2015, 09:12 PM
when was the last time l kizle made a post that wasn't awful? 2007? is there even a single good one?
You still jamming to that Gucci Mane? Burr!
tmacattack33
09-17-2015, 02:00 PM
hmmmm
Fetty Wap has no substance but his vocals are creative and almost genre-shattering, so no I don't think he's retarded.
No_Look604
09-18-2015, 04:26 AM
OP
CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF!!
J.Cole Kendrick @ top 15 all-time. :lol Then you mention Drake and Taylor Swift? :facepalm
Here's a tip. Never try discuss music in real life to people you don't really know. You'd only be exposing yourself for the fool that you are.
Take care.
Bosnian Sajo
09-18-2015, 04:33 AM
This era is awful. Fetty Wap is ****ing famous. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber have music careers. Techno music is mainstream. It's all awful.
Edit: You think Drake is good? How old are you?
Not this guy :facepalm
Someone come help gramps back to the nursing home, please.
Bosnian Sajo
09-18-2015, 04:38 AM
Imo, 90's was the greatest era for music (and basketball, coincidently), but this new age stuff ain't bad. I understand if yall older folks used to the stuff back in the day, nostalgia gets the best of you I won't hate on you for that, but to say this new stuff is garbage? Nah. It's just different. You ain't used to it.
chips93
09-18-2015, 08:15 AM
Not really, I' was basically saying he has a terrible stage name (to match his terrible music)
how do you know its terrible if you never listened to it? :confusedshrug:
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