Would anything less than 59 wins and a WCF birth be a disappointment For the Heat/Wad

[97 bulls]

Based on the opinion of posters on this Forum (the opinion that Wade is better than Pippen), if Pippen at 34 years old can lead the 00 Blazers to the WCF and 59 wins. I expect 34 year old Wade to do the same. On paper this years Heat have just as much talent if not more. Deng, Dragic, Bosh, McRoberts, Whiteside, And Chalmers are every bit as good as Steve Smith, Rasheed Wallace, Arvydas Sabonis, Damon Stoudemire, and Greg Anthony.

[HylianNightmare]

Anything less than an ecf matchup with the Cavaliers is a failure for the heat this year

[swagga]

Based on the opinion of posters on this Forum (the opinion that Wade is better than Pippen), if Pippen at 34 years old can lead the 00 Blazers to the WCF and 59 wins. I expect 34 year old Wade to do the same. On paper this years Heat have just as much talent if not more. Deng, Dragic, Bosh, McRoberts, Whiteside, And Chalmers are every bit as good as Steve Smith, Rasheed Wallace, Arvydas Sabonis, Damon Stoudemire, and Greg Anthony.

hard to get to the WCF in the eastern conference tbh :roll:

seriously, that heat team looks good on paper, but they are soft as charmin and injuries will rape that team bigtime because all their players are very injury prone, so one-two injuries can create a snowballing effect rather easily. Realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if they miss the playoffs. Vegas is making a lot money on the heat, because people bet on talent and not on the actual team.

[PJR]

First of all, Pippen didn't "lead" shit in 2000. He was a role player type contributor, on a team that went to conference finals the year BEFORE he was traded there. This revisionist history is hilarious.

But yes, the Heat should have the expectations of being a far more formidable team than they were last year.

[HiphopRelated]

lol @WCF

[97 bulls]

First of all, Pippen didn't "lead" shit in 2000. He was a role player type contributor, on a team that went to conference finals the year BEFORE he was traded there. This revisionist history is hilarious.

But yes, the Heat should have the expectations of being a far more formidable team than they were last year.
Funny. Then you'll be in another thread saying Pippen couldn't lead the Trailblazers so he no good

[ArbitraryWater]

how can you expect this team to miss the playoffs? :roll:

2nd best team in the East for sure.

[PJR]

Funny. Then you'll be in another thread saying Pippen couldn't lead the Trailblazers so he no good

No I won't. Because I'm not some agenda driven idiot like you, sir.

[DMV2]

ECF or bust for the Heat...if fully healthy.

but that still doesn't change the fact that Wade is a tier above Pippen. At the end of the day, Wade was a franchise player (somewhat still is), that's something Pippen never was.

[DonDadda59]

Based on the opinion of posters on this Forum (the opinion that Wade is better than Pippen), if Pippen at 34 years old can lead the 00 Blazers to the WCF and 59 wins. I expect 34 year old Wade to do the same. On paper this years Heat have just as much talent if not more. Deng, Dragic, Bosh, McRoberts, Whiteside, And Chalmers are every bit as good as Steve Smith, Rasheed Wallace, Arvydas Sabonis, Damon Stoudemire, and Greg Anthony.

You have a very loose definition of the word 'lead'. And the Blazers made the WCF without Pip the season before. You'd have a point if a Wade-less Heat had made the ECF last year... otherwise your premise makes no sense.

[DMV2]

A 12.5PPG scorer led his team to a conference finals. :roll:

[97 bulls]

You have a very loose definition of the word 'lead'. And the Blazers made the WCF without Pip the season before. You'd have a point if a Wade-less Heat had made the ECF last year... otherwise your premise makes no sense.
You are incredible. How many times have you used 00 against Pippen by saying he couldn't lead them. Looks like imma have to go back and expose some of these clowns.

[Legends66NBA7]

how can you expect this team to miss the playoffs? :roll:

2nd best team in the East for sure.

Their the 4th oldest team in the league and have been very injury prone. Injuries were a big part of them not making it last season, along with losing James.

So no, it's not a sure bet they'll be the 2nd best team in the East "for sure".

[guy]

If Wade "led" the Heat to 59 wins averaging 13/6/5, he'd get absolutely destroyed on here :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Not even Jordan was able to lead his team to the WCF, that's a tall order for a player past his prime like Wade

[Dbrog]

Why is everyone so hyped on the Heat this year? Don't they have basically the same team except oldman Amare and Winslow? Perhaps they won't have the injury issues they had last year...

[Wade's Rings]

Why is everyone so hyped on the Heat this year? Don't they have basically the same team except oldman Amare and Winslow? Perhaps they won't have the injury issues they had last year...

Assuming they are healthy they have a chance to make some noise.

[Papaya Petee]

If Wade "led" the Heat to 59 wins averaging 13/6/5, he'd get absolutely destroyed on here :oldlol:
But, but, but.... any player Pippen guards averages 5 PPG and becomes irrelevant in the series :cry: his defensive impact!!! Pippen would shut down every single player at once from the 05 and 06 Piston teams!!!!

He can guard 1-4s and shut them down!!!
Just like he shut down Isiah and Dumars in the late 80s. Magic in 1991, Drexler in 1992, Barkley and KJ in 93 Payton in 96 and Stockton in 97 and 98!

Dude averaged 12.5/6/5 and got clowned by a young Kobe but he "led them" to 59 wins :roll:

[Papaya Petee]

Why is everyone so hyped on the Heat this year? Don't they have basically the same team except oldman Amare and Winslow? Perhaps they won't have the injury issues they had last year...
Hmm lets see, this season they actually have a pre season together.

Bosh and Dragic didn't play a game together.
Dragic came in post ASG didnt have time to develop chemistry.

Wade Bosh Dragic Deng Whiteside didn't play a second together.

Whiteside didn't play until really 2nd half of the season.
Had injuries.
Bosh went down with bloodclot freak injury.
McRoberts tore his ACL super early in the season will be back.
Bench is much better than last season. We got a 12 PPG athletic SG for minimum. We got a backup PF in Amare for the minimum. We drafted a very capable SF that wasn't supposed to be there at 10.

Chalmers and Tyler Johnson who started last season will be off the bench Point Guards.
......

But yeah basically the same team......:wtf:

[LoneyROY7]

I expect this Heat team to win anywhere from 50-55 games next year.