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BigNBAfan
09-14-2015, 06:19 PM
:confusedshrug:

WayOfWade
09-14-2015, 06:31 PM
http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nashhowardSI.jpg

I'm inclined to say no

34-24 Footwork
09-14-2015, 06:32 PM
They would be unstoppable, but they probably wouldn't run the triangle if Nash was a starter. And if they did, Nash wouldn't have developed into the player he became on the Mavericks/Suns. Even though he's arguably one of the greatest shooters of all time, he wouldnt have been delegated to an elbow shooter like Fisher was.

34-24 Footwork
09-14-2015, 06:33 PM
Still can't believe he hustled my Lakers out of millions of dollars before retiring.

fiddy
09-14-2015, 06:34 PM
http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nashhowardSI.jpg

I'm inclined to say no
:facepalm

Naero
09-14-2015, 06:53 PM
Theoretically and on-paper, they are a much more formidable team, but a more pragmatic approach is needed when you measure the intangibles.

Derek Fisher never typified the on-court contributions that are expectable from a team-leader, but he was a titular co-leader for a reason, having been a co-captain: his locker-room presence. Even as Kobe became the clear-cut leader of the team post-Shaq, Fisher was the most vocal conscience in the locker room out of any player.

His mediatory role was critical that season, as the infamous, divisive Kobe-Shaq feuds started to precipitate. Replace Derek Fisher with Steve Nash, the latter of whom that didn't evidently work diplomatic magic when Kobe-Dwight feuds became rife, and who will mediate the team-polarizing feud between them? Phil Jackson, who Kobe did not respect as much at that age as he did to his peer Derek Fisher?

Moreover, Steve Nash would not only be a relatively ineffective peacemaker but also a questionable peacekeeper, too. He's raised complaints in the 2012-13 season about being under-apportioned with touches while the ball-dominant Kobe was in-game; how would that issue have been handled when Kobe and Nash were both younger in 2000-01 and thus less mature of teammates?

On a video-game simulator, they are unstoppable; but in reality, it is questionable whether or not they would've retained the same success that team chemistry was instrumental to, let alone be a proven upgrade.

SOD 21
09-14-2015, 09:55 PM
No one could stop the Lakers with Fisher since they went an NBA all-time 15-1 in the playoffs and absolutely destroyed a very good Spurs team in the WCF's.

DFish was something like 15 for 20 on three pointers in that series, so Nash wasn't need. In fact, Nash may have made that team worse.

T_L_P
09-14-2015, 10:11 PM
No one could stop the Lakers with Fisher since they went an NBA all-time 15-1 in the playoffs and absolutely destroyed a very good Spurs team in the WCF's.

DFish was something like 15 for 20 on three pointers in that series, so Nash wasn't need. In fact, Nash may have made that team worse.

17/5/4/.772 TS% for the series, 156 ORtg. :bowdown:

He was pretty hot for the entire Playoff run. He was the ideal player for two stars like Kobe and Shaq who required touches.

Prime_Shaq
09-14-2015, 10:12 PM
They were already unstoppable

FreezingTsmoove
09-14-2015, 10:14 PM
Nash trying to guard Iverson :lol

Youngsters forgetting how good Fisher was :lol

BigNBAfan
09-14-2015, 10:17 PM
Nash trying to guard Iverson :lol

Youngsters forgetting how good Fisher was :lol

I was probably older than you in the early 2000s... fisher as a defender wasn't that good, he never was. The only laker that could 'contain' iverson was tyronn and even then iverson was unstoppable.

Naero
09-14-2015, 11:29 PM
I was probably older than you in the early 2000s... fisher as a defender wasn't that good, he never was. The only laker that could 'contain' iverson was tyronn and even then iverson was unstoppable.

This.

Fisher was always a tough-minded player, and that had a carryover to his defensive work as well, but he never had the physical ability to keep up with most Point Guards.

His lack of lateral agility and his flat-footed shot-contesting allowed his match-up to to get off eyeshot-clean shots and eventually ignite all cylinders; because of that liability, the Lakers' best perimeter-defenders

Lebronxrings
09-14-2015, 11:32 PM
kobe.



team killer. ran shaq out of town, then dwight, would do it with nash.

red1
09-15-2015, 12:00 AM
http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nashhowardSI.jpg

I'm inclined to say no
:roll: gets me every time

TheMarkMadsen
09-15-2015, 12:04 AM
Fisher was great no replacement needed

Smoke117
09-15-2015, 12:12 AM
The 2001 Laker team is probably the most overrated team as far as how they are perceived all time...the 2001 was a historically weak time in the league. If you know anything about basketball...you know this. An all time GREAT TEAM beats other worthy VERY GOOD OR GREAT TEAMS...the Lakers literally didn't even face a team more than a casual "pretty good". They had Shaq in a still watered down expansion league where all the stars of the 90s were fading away and they dominated...wow...who would have thought!?...they had to beat the Sixers who were gifted a finals appearance over the Bucks do to bullshit...wow...

http://media.giphy.com/media/rDEU1SDmzbFza/giphy.gif

The main difference between the 2000 laker team and the 2001 laker team is that they stayed stagnant while the rest of the league got worse. That is how much better the 2001 squad is compared to the 2000...

BigNBAfan
09-15-2015, 12:19 AM
The 2001 Laker team is probably the most overrated team as far as how they are perceived all time...the 2001 was a historically weak time in the league. If you know anything about basketball...you know this. An all time GREAT TEAM beats other worthy VERY GOOD OR GREAT TEAMS...the Lakers literally didn't even face a team more than a casual "pretty good". They had Shaq in a still watered down expansion league where all the stars of the 90s were fading away and they dominated...wow...who would have thought!?...they had to beat the Sixers who were gifted a finals appearance over the Bucks do to bullshit...wow...

http://media.giphy.com/media/rDEU1SDmzbFza/giphy.gif

The main difference between the 2000 laker team and the 2001 laker team is that they stayed stagnant while the rest of the league got worse. That is how much better the 2001 squad is compared to the 2000...

The west had 7 teams with 50+ wins dude... by far one of the toughest roads to a championship ever.