LMAO Floyd only sold 500k PPV's last fight

[Godzuki]

no way he could keep bamboozling people with more boxing marketing hype than substance. everyone knows how lame and boring he is now. there goes 1 of 2 excuses his retard stans always make for him. lol now all them horrible opinion fgts got left is his hand picked undefeated record for his greatness :oldlol:

Berto thinks Floyd underestimates how much fans hate his style of boxing, and that's why they vowed to stop buying his fights -- "As you can see they weren’t bulls**ttin."

Ultimately the low PPV numbers hurt Floyd more than Berto, since Floyd gets a cut of that. Berto got a flat $4 million purse, but says he still tried to put on a good show ... unlike Floyd.

"I knew if he had the chance he would run around and make it boring, but I tried my best to not let that happen and disappoint the people. They deserve excitement.”


- Berto


Ronda Rousey says Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s finally getting what he deserves -- fans turning their backs on him in droves because he's just too damn boring in the ring.


-Rousey


"Floyd ain't fooling any real boxer, he is anything but the greatest"


-Tyson


its official. Floyd stans have the worst opinions of this era :applause:

[DeuceWallaces]

Everything to do with the opponent and little to do with his style.

[Godzuki]

Everything to do with the opponent and little to do with his style.


these excuses are so played out. its everyone elses fault but floyd's that he runs, hugs, and abuses every boxing rule not to fight :oldlol:

[Vaniiiia]

Seriously that Pacman Mayweather hype scene was the most cringe worthy thing in sports history.

I couldn't stop thinking about how awkward all these parties were gonna be across the globe when everyone realized how boring Mayweather is.

I went to this dudes house to watch the fight and felt so bad to see how excited and amped up he was. I gave him a warning that it was gonna be just another boring ass Mayweather fight but dude was still giddy. He never admitted I was right but I could tell by the look on his and everyone elses faces that he'd been conned out of 100 bucks. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

I'm shocked it was that high. But I doubt anyone other than Showtime cares. Floyd gets a minimum $32 million guaranteed, Berto $4 million. And everyone and their grandmother knew it was going to be a shit fight so no surprises there.

I don't even for a second believe Floyd is retired for real. He'll take a year off and be back next fall either on HBO or maybe even an independent PPV distribution. He may even throw a curveball and fight on network TV, but that would require taking a big pay cut. He'll fight in the new arena that's opening next Spring in Vegas.

[Smoke117]

You lost me at Ronda Rousey...idiots are actually buying ppv's she headlines...womens mma is about 10 years behind mens with one woman kind of being close (she actually thinks she can beat men at her own weight division....lol, tj dillashaw would literally commit murder on her) to MMA in 2006...Ronda. She thinks she's some big shit because dana treats her like her shit doesn't stink. She's an even bigger joke than Floyd, frankly. So yeah, I went off course...but, meh.

[Godzuki]

You lost me at Ronda Rousey...idiots are actually buying ppv's she headlines...womens mma is about 10 years behind mens with one woman kind of being close (she actually thinks she can beat men at her own weight division....lol, tj dillashaw would literally commit murder on her) to MMA in 2006...Ronda. She thinks she's some big shit because dana treats her like her shit doesn't stink. She's an even bigger joke than Floyd, frankly. So yeah, I went off course...but, meh.


you're a idiot. rousey fights are more entertaining than most of the mens MMA fights. then again chick fights in RL are great to watch too.

a floyd fight is like watching a dog chase a squirrel :sleeping

[DeuceWallaces]

The Rousey thing is hilarious. She's beating up girls in 30 seconds to the tune of 50 bucks. Funny she has the audacity to go after Floyd.

[branslowski]

You happy because he only made 500k on pay=per view?:oldlol:

Hand picked fights?? So his 49 wins were all against chump change hand picked opponents right? Anyone who believes Floyd never beat a good fighter needs to log off and kill themselves...And the whole "holding and running" sh!t is played out, I guess Floyd never lands punches in his fights...:rolleyes:

How you hold and run and still land far more punches than your opponent? Pac stans so mad...Hypes him up for beating Cotto and Marquez, and then acts like Floyd hand picked every opponent even though he beat both Cotto and Marquez:oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

Can't stand Rousey. Bitch is a major hypocrite

[Godzuki]

The Rousey thing is hilarious. She's beating up girls in 30 seconds to the tune of 50 bucks. Funny she has the audacity to go after Floyd.


nah whats funny is floyd being a "huge fan" of the first NFL female coach and inviting her ringside, while floyd stans eat it up like he's such a great guy and into women firsts :facepalm

if u think about it the fact that anyone can buy floyd even knows there was a first female NFL coach, on top of being a huge fan of hers, is laffable in itself :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

You happy because he only made 500k on pay=per view?:oldlol:

Hand picked fights?? So his 49 wins were all against chump change hand picked opponents right? Anyone who believes Floyd never beat a good fighter needs to log off and kill themselves...And the whole "holding and running" sh!t is played out, I guess Floyd never lands punches in his fights...:rolleyes:

How you hold and run and still land far more punches than your opponent? Pac stans so mad...Hypes him up for beating Cotto and Marquez, and then acts like Floyd hand picked every opponent even though he beat both Cotto and Marquez:oldlol:


yeah most of them were, at least 3/4's were overrated opponents or past their primes. he purposely delayed and ducked people until they looked more beatable then took the fights.

stop lying to ureself :coleman:

[Godzuki]

Can't stand Rousey. Bitch is a major hypocrite


and floyd isnt? :biggums:

[Jameerthefear]

and floyd isnt? :biggums:
Not as much as RR

[ThePhantomCreep]

Ronda fights in the weakest, most talent-deprived division in the history of combat sports.

I get why she constantly talks about Floyd (sponging off his fame) but why is she a thing again?

[Godzuki]

Ronda fights in the weakest, most talent-deprived division in the history of combat sports.

I get why she constantly talks about Floyd (sponging off his fame) but why is she a thing again?


what fans do u think she gets by doing that other than rallying the feminists? :biggums:

boxing is dying, MMA is growing...Rousey has become the face of MMA for a reason. floyd on the other hand is one of the most awful human being athletes in this century. he's extremely arrogant, a woman beater, illiterate, uneducated, friends with beiber, and it amazes me how black people don't demand more from him in terms giving back to their communities with all of the money he wastes. they're always screaming at politicians to do it but why not at floyd who spends all his money on strippers and rolls royces for him and his posse. 50 cent gives back to black communities way more than floyd does and that nikka's bankrupt :coleman:

floyd is a HUGE reason why boxing interest is going into a tailspin right now...

either way its obvious she's in floyd's head. floyd will respond with something because he HAS to respond, he feels slighted and can't handle it. u know everything she says makes him want to beat the shit outa her like he did his baby mama :lol

stop lying to ureself... if u think she is sponging off of him u clearly aren't looking at the variables :facepalm

[SCREWstonRockets]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/31/7952683/why-ufc-ppv-model-is-doomed-2014-ppv-buys-mma-stats

actually UFC numbers have been declining more than rising in the past years. maybe the novelty is wearing off? all this UFC is taking over, mixed martial arts is on the rise and boxing is dying is so exaggerated. its started off hot but im not sure MMA will ever reach the mainstream level that boxing has done. seems to have leveled off now.

just look at the biggest draws, pro wrestler Brock Lesner put up good numbers and street fighter Kimbo Slice has put up record numbers for the sport. Ronda Rousey is the biggest draw right now and she is carrying UFC. Dana better find her good competition or she gets bored and jumps to WWE lol.

UFC is dead after Ronda Rousey.

[raprap]

Can't stand Ronda.

[TheMan]

Seriously, is OP on RR's payroll? :facepalm

[$LakerGold]

Can't stand Rousey. Bitch is a major hypocrite
You're done.

[Jameerthefear]

You're done.
??

[oh the horror]

Dudes jumping on shitting on Rousey and avoiding the actual topic like the plague because they all know that shit is true.


Floyd is the best con man in the history of the sport. Dude protected the shit out of his "0 loss" brand in order to convince people he was better than he was and deserved as much as he would get for his fights.

[FKAri]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/31/7952683/why-ufc-ppv-model-is-doomed-2014-ppv-buys-mma-stats

actually UFC numbers have been declining more than rising in the past years. maybe the novelty is wearing off? all this UFC is taking over, mixed martial arts is on the rise and boxing is dying is so exaggerated. its started off hot but im not sure MMA will ever reach the mainstream level that boxing has done. seems to have leveled off now.

just look at the biggest draws, pro wrestler Brock Lesner put up good numbers and street fighter Kimbo Slice has put up record numbers for the sport. Ronda Rousey is the biggest draw right now and she is carrying UFC. Dana better find her good competition or she gets bored and jumps to WWE lol.

UFC is dead after Ronda Rousey.

Saying the UFC is dead is like saying the NBA was dead after MJ retired. The reasons for why MMA is in a lull right now are a bit complicated that I won't go into but I think it'll pick back up in a year or 2.

[masonanddixon]

You can't blame Mayweather. He has no power and he's maximised his talent and skill as a defensive boxer.

Guys like Rigondeaux and Ward are exactly the same and because they don't shit talk all the time they don't make the same $$$$$$$$$ as Floyd.

[plowking]

Dudes jumping on shitting on Rousey and avoiding the actual topic like the plague because they all know that shit is true.


Floyd is the best con man in the history of the sport. Dude protected the shit out of his "0 loss" brand in order to convince people he was better than he was and deserved as much as he would get for his fights.

How did he protect it?

By the looks of things he beat all mandatory challengers, and all the guys that could supposedly beat him.

Manny is apparently rated all the way up there in boxing lists as we're told, and then Floyd dismantled him.

[Rooster]

How did he protect it?

By the looks of things he beat all mandatory challengers, and all the guys that could supposedly beat him.

Manny is apparently rated all the way up there in boxing lists as we're told, and then Floyd dismantled him.

:facepalm :facepalm
He protected his 0 by ducking all the tough fights after El Ternible gave him fits:confusedshrug:

He cherrypicks, he runs from them, he's exactly the type of fighter who will not strike them iron when it's hot:no:

Hence he never beaten any HOF fighter in their primes:no:

The PPV is actually good for him better than I expected. That's usually reflect the hardcore stans he has. He never really hit that 500K before Oscar. Pacquaio was the same. Both of them owe Oscar for their mainstream success.

[Rooster]

You happy because he only made 500k on pay=per view?:oldlol:

Hand picked fights?? So his 49 wins were all against chump change hand picked opponents right? Anyone who believes Floyd never beat a good fighter needs to log off and kill themselves...And the whole "holding and running" sh!t is played out, I guess Floyd never lands punches in his fights...:rolleyes:

How you hold and run and still land far more punches than your opponent? Pac stans so mad...Hypes him up for beating Cotto and Marquez, and then acts like Floyd hand picked every opponent even though he beat both Cotto and Marquez:oldlol:

:facepalm :facepalm

He ducked Cotto when Cotto was body snatching everyone and made them pissed blood and he was on the top of his game.

He beat Marquez by making him climbed 2 division and Floyd intentionally screw him on the scale.:facepalm

Floyd is a ducking diva:rolleyes:

It became transparent after Margarito pussyfied him:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Mannys fight before Floyd did less than 300.

Its always about the matchup.

He made 30 something million in an hour fighting someone casual fans never heard of. Hes doing quite well.

[branslowski]

:facepalm :facepalm

He ducked Cotto when Cotto was body snatching everyone and made them pissed blood and he was on the top of his game.

He beat Marquez by making him climbed 2 division and Floyd intentionally screw him on the scale.:facepalm

Floyd is a ducking diva:rolleyes:

It became transparent after Margarito pussyfied him:oldlol:

Really?:rolleyes: Body snatcher days when he was beating nobodies?? Cotto was f*cking 30yrs old when they fought, that's prime years, Meanwhile Floyd was 34 yrs old when they fought...But ofcource lemme guess, Floyd wont get the "Out Of Prime" excuse right? Floyd haters make me sick at how much yawl lack logic just to discredit TBE:facepalm

Then another excuse for Marquez...So you telling me fighters never climb divisions for fights now? Or is it only a prob when a Floyd opponents do it? I mean, It was ok to me when Floyd moved up to Junior Middle weight for only the 2nd time in his career to fight Cotto, I wasn't b!tchin about it, he still won...Marquez was 142lbs and Floyd was 146lbs, boo whoo, Floyd fought many fights getting out weighed...Floyd knocked Marquez down in the 2nd round and dominated the rest of that fight...Marquez landing 19% of his punches, he wished he could go back and fight a lesser opponent in Pac so he could actually land punches. LOL @ getting knockedout by Marquez.

Oh I almost missed the Margarito line, Really?? The same Margarito who lost many fights against bums? lmao, dude got beat down by Shane Mosely who wasn't even on Floyds level at all, gtfoh

[branslowski]

Dudes jumping on shitting on Rousey and avoiding the actual topic like the plague because they all know that shit is true.


Floyd is the best con man in the history of the sport. Dude protected the shit out of his "0 loss" brand in order to convince people he was better than he was and deserved as much as he would get for his fights.

Zab
Canelo Alvarez
Oscar
Shane Mosely
Maidaina
Pac
Cotto
Marquez
Diego Corrales
Angel Manfred
Victo Ortiz
Gatti
Hatton

:biggums:

[Rooster]

Really?:rolleyes: Body snatcher days when he was beating nobodies?? Cotto was f*cking 30yrs old when they fought, that's prime years, Meanwhile Floyd was 34 yrs old when they fought...But ofcource lemme guess, Floyd wont get the "Out Of Prime" excuse right? Floyd haters make me sick at how much yawl lack logic just to discredit TBE:facepalm

Then another excuse for Marquez...So you telling me fighters never climb divisions for fights now? Or is it only a prob when a Floyd opponents do it? I mean, It was ok to me when Floyd moved up to Junior Middle weight for only the 2nd time in his career to fight Cotto, I wasn't b!tchin about it, he still won...Marquez was 142lbs and Floyd was 146lbs, boo whoo, Floyd fought many fights getting out weighed...Floyd knocked Marquez down in the 2nd round and dominated the rest of that fight...Marquez landing 19% of his punches, he wished he could go back and fight a lesser opponent in Pac so he could actually land punches. LOL @ getting knockedout by Marquez.

Oh I almost missed the Margarito line, Really?? The same Margarito who lost many fights against bums? lmao, dude got beat down by Shane Mosely who wasn't even on Floyds level at all, gtfoh

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Margarito losses.:rolleyes:

It's the same line Floyd used and fought the old pedestrian and gatekeeper like Baldomir with 9 lossess.:oldlol: :roll:

[Rooster]

Zab
Canelo Alvarez
Oscar
Shane Mosely
Maidaina
Pac
Cotto
Marquez
Diego Corrales
Angel Manfred
Victo Ortiz
Gatti
Hatton

:biggums:

still not a single one HOF in their prime here?:no: :no:

[shadow]

The Rousey thing is hilarious. She's beating up girls in 30 seconds to the tune of 50 bucks. Funny she has the audacity to go after Floyd.

well the key phrase here is beating people up bit, because Floyd does anything but that, which is what people pay to see.

[DonD13]

that's 500k too many, he is a damn cheater

:(

[DonDadda59]

that's 500k too many, he is a damn cheater

:(

The Bernie Madoff of Boxing. :applause:

I guess it's the Lance Armstrong of Boxing now too.

The Bernie Armstrong or Lance Madoff of Boxing :applause:

[branslowski]

still not a single one HOF in their prime here?:no: :no:

Canelo was a beast
Maidaina Knocked out Broner
Cotto still got belts woopin ass
Marquez is good (or does it only count when he fights Pac?:rolleyes: )
Corrales was undefeated and many thought he would knock Mayweather out
Hatton was undefeated
Gatti was known as a slugging warrior who would beat down Floyd
Manfredy won 23 fights in a row including wooping on Gatti
Ortiz was an up and comeing power puncher

No need to even go on because you just proved your either too young or you just don't know sh!t about boxing. Most of you morons talking sh!t about Floyd probably never even watched a fight of his during the 90's and early 2000's because the comments you make like "he runs in every fight" is completely un accurate and retarded...The only out of prime boxer I'll give you is Oscar and even still, Floyd was only 3yrs younger than him when they fought...All your prime excuses are wack, especially since in alot of them Floyd wasn't a young kid himself...Swerve.

[branslowski]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Margarito losses.:rolleyes:

It's the same line Floyd used and fought the old pedestrian and gatekeeper like Baldomir with 9 lossess.:oldlol: :roll:

Get owned on your Cotto and Marquez BS, ignore that and ride the Margarito train..I'll play...Do you really think Margarito would have beat Floyd or are you just talking out of your ass?..

[Rooster]

Get owned on your Cotto and Marquez BS, ignore that and ride the Margarito train..I'll play...Do you really think Margarito would have beat Floyd or are you just talking out of your ass?..

Cotto and Marquez.:facepalm :oldlol:

Boy you don't you even know that Marquez was basically undefeated with boring technical style even way back in his forum days. No one wanted to fight him. Not Prince, not Morales and not Barrera. He has to change his approach to more agressive counter puncher just to get big fights. The fact that he has to climb 2 divisions and still got screwed to the scale show how Floyd like cheat to his advantage.

And Cotto. Oh yeah Floyd retired just to avoid him when every boxing fans wanted to see them fight. That was when Cotto was fresh before he got hammered and took serious damage by Margarito and obliterated by Pacquaio.

And Margarito. That's a no brainer. Floyd does not want any part of it. The no regard for human life Margarito was feared. Whether Floyd win or not, he's gonna get it. And Floyd does not want any part of it and that is why he went to safety mode and fought Baldomir.

And Paul Williams.:no:

This is the reason Floyd kept retiring because he does want not to get pressure by fighting these guys.

[Rooster]

Canelo was a beast
Maidaina Knocked out Broner
Cotto still got belts woopin ass
Marquez is good (or does it only count when he fights Pac?:rolleyes: )
Corrales was undefeated and many thought he would knock Mayweather out
Hatton was undefeated
Gatti was known as a slugging warrior who would beat down Floyd
Manfredy won 23 fights in a row including wooping on Gatti
Ortiz was an up and comeing power puncher

No need to even go on because you just proved your either too young or you just don't know sh!t about boxing. Most of you morons talking sh!t about Floyd probably never even watched a fight of his during the 90's and early 2000's because the comments you make like "he runs in every fight" is completely un accurate and retarded...The only out of prime boxer I'll give you is Oscar and even still, Floyd was only 3yrs younger than him when they fought...All your prime excuses are wack, especially since in alot of them Floyd wasn't a young kid himself...Swerve.

Maidana. He's a gatekeeper. He can't even outbox a twilight version with one eye Morales.:oldlol: no HOF
Cotto keep getting belts because there's just too many damn alphabet belts to spare. He will be in HOF
Ortiz was not an up and coming, he was a quitter who once told the ref to stop the fight because he does not want to get hurt. Not a HOF
Hatton was undefeated but he struggled in only one 147 fight against a bum. So what Floyd did, of course let Hatton fight him at 147. Not a HOF but he will get there base on his popularity like Mc Guigan
Corrales was Floyd greatest win but as much I love Chico, he's not a HOF.
And Gatti, he got outclassed by every elite fighter he face. See Hatton.
Canelo, this could be it. But let's wait and see him against Golovkin to see if truly an elite.

Floyd has still 0 wins against any HOF fighter in their prime.:no:

[branslowski]

Cotto and Marquez.:facepalm :oldlol:

Boy you don't you even know that Marquez was basically undefeated with boring technical style even way back in his forum days. No one wanted to fight him. Not Prince, not Morales and not Barrera. He has to change his approach to more agressive counter puncher just to get big fights. The fact that he has to climb 2 divisions and still got screwed to the scale show how Floyd like cheat to his advantage.

And Cotto. Oh yeah Floyd retired just to avoid him when every boxing fans wanted to see them fight. That was when Cotto was fresh before he got hammered and took serious damage by Margarito and obliterated by Pacquaio.

And Margarito. That's a no brainer. Floyd does not want any part of it. The no regard for human life Margarito was feared. Whether Floyd win or not, he's gonna get it. And Floyd does not want any part of it and that is why he went to safety mode and fought Baldomir.

And Paul Williams.:no:

This is the reason Floyd kept retiring because he does want not to get pressure by fighting these guys.

So lemme see, Cotto was a good fighter untill he lost to Margarito and then Pac....Yet wins 3 straight fights after losing to Pac including 2 of the wins being against Margarito 2 and Mayorga...So he goes from wooping on Margarito (the boxer your hype about) with a 3 fight win streak, and then 5 months later he fights Floyd and all of a sudden he's washed up and out of his prime?:rolleyes: ...I mean literally 5 months after a TKO win vs your God Margarito he fights Floyd and all of a sudden he's out of his prime?...The reaching you haters are doing isn't even pissing me off nemore, this sh!t is comedic gold:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Then you talk about Marquez again..."Early Forum Days"....Name me a HOF boxer he beat in those days....You can't, and again, it wont change the fact that he got schooled by Floyd, Your Cotto excuse (even though Mayweather was older himself and fought at middle weight for only the 2nd time in his career) won't change the fact that he got schooled by Floyd either....I didn't even have to expose your inaccurate excuses but I did it anyway...Take the L...I keep winnin like Floyd.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

He made the most in boxing history, I think his estimated net worth is $700 million.

Only person closest to him is Mike Tyson who was worth $300-400 million at one point (even though apparently Don King was robbing him of like approximately $100 million), so Tyson at one point may have been worth up to $500 million in the 1990s.

I doubt Floyd really cares how many PPV were sold in his last fight. He's still the richest boxer ever.

Boxing wise, Floyd is a magician. He isn't a knockout artist, so I don't see why people knock him for that. I used to until I learned more about boxing and how it really is based on your efficiency as a boxers in terms of punches landed and defense. Of course, I would have flied over for Tyson fights in Vegas back in the day (especially his first fight after prison) but I wouldn't do it for Mayweather. I prefer aggressive knockout fighters but that doesn't discredit Mayweather's talent. I just prefer a different type of fighting.

[branslowski]

Maidana. He's a gatekeeper. He can't even outbox a twilight version with one eye Morales.:oldlol: no HOF
Cotto keep getting belts because there's just too many damn alphabet belts to spare. He will be in HOF
Ortiz was not an up and coming, he was a quitter who once told the ref to stop the fight because he does not want to get hurt. Not a HOF
Hatton was undefeated but he struggled in only one 147 fight against a bum. So what Floyd did, of course let Hatton fight him at 147. Not a HOF but he will get there base on his popularity like Mc Guigan
Corrales was Floyd greatest win but as much I love Chico, he's not a HOF.
And Gatti, he got outclassed by every elite fighter he face. See Hatton.
Canelo, this could be it. But let's wait and see him against Golovkin to see if truly an elite.

Floyd has still 0 wins against any HOF fighter in their prime.:no:

Jesus christ, more BS:facepalm :roll: :roll: :roll:

I'll just give you some preperation H in a form of a post... Hatton, Pac, Gatti, Cotto, Alvarez, Corrales, Marquez, Del la Hoya, Mosely, Baldomir, Zab, Maidaina, exc were all bums. :rolleyes:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Imagine Floyd fighting Floyd... It would amount to nothing but a dance with ZERO actual combat. :oldlol:

True masters of the "Sweet Science" were fighters like Wilfredo Benitez, Julio Ceasar Chavez, and, well, I could go on but I'm not trying to piss off Flomo's.

[Lebron23]

It was a high price tuneup fight for Floyd. I wish he didn't retire in 2008. Pacquiao still has a better resume than him.

[branslowski]

Imagine Floyd fighting Floyd... It would amount to nothing but a dance with ZERO actual combat. :oldlol:

True masters of the "Sweet Science" were fighters like Wilfredo Benitez, Julio Ceasar Chavez, and, well, I could go on but I'm not trying to piss off Flomo's.

So yawl so madd at Floyd that you gotta make a "Imagine Floyd fighting Floyd no impact" comment.

Can I ask you something because in the NBA Forum you have more logic than the trolls...

If Floyd only runs, holds, or only plays defense then can you tell me how he got 26 Knockouts? Can you tell me why they ended the Gatti, Corrales, Hatton, and Ortiz fights early? Can you tell me why he threw nearly the same amount of punches as Pac yet landed 148 of them while Pac only landed 89 (but Pac more agressive lol)...Can you tell me what Boxing is? If you fought, wouldn't you wanna hit and not be hit?

Tell you what, A or B...You pick one and I'll just leave you alone and accept your opinion:

A) You win fight in 12 rounds UD, 120-108 All around...You throw 378 punches and land 200, your opponent throws 392 punches lands 61...You outbox your opponent, leave fight with 50 million Dollars, with no marks or injuries aside from a sore hand.


B) You win Fight in 10th Round Knockout, you throw 500 punches land 208, your opponent throws 525 punches lands 197...You win fight, but leave with 2 swollen eyes and a broken nose cause you wanted to Brawl, ya wife n kids look at your face in discuss, you end up with Brain issues 3 days later


I know the truth to all these, but rather see where you stand.

[Rooster]

So lemme see, Cotto was a good fighter untill he lost to Margarito and then Pac....Yet wins 3 straight fights after losing to Pac including 2 of the wins being against Margarito 2 and Mayorga...So he goes from wooping on Margarito (the boxer your hype about) with a 3 fight win streak, and then 5 months later he fights Floyd and all of a sudden he's washed up and out of his prime?:rolleyes: ...I mean literally 5 months after a TKO win vs your God Margarito he fights Floyd and all of a sudden he's out of his prime?...The reaching you haters are doing isn't even pissing me off nemore, this sh!t is comedic gold:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Then you talk about Marquez again..."Early Forum Days"....Name me a HOF boxer he beat in those days....You can't, and again, it wont change the fact that he got schooled by Floyd, Your Cotto excuse (even though Mayweather was older himself and fought at middle weight for only the 2nd time in his career) won't change the fact that he got schooled by Floyd either....I didn't even have to expose your inaccurate excuses but I did it anyway...Take the L...I keep winnin like Floyd.

WTF. Is that what you're all about. :facepalm

Look when every boxing fans wanted Floyd to fight Cotto, Margarito, Williams and Pacquaio, he made every excuses to avoid them. He was a ducking diva.
Every Floyd apologist believed Cotto was done when he faced Pacquaio, now the 180 spin move:oldlol:

No one wanted to see JMM fight Floyd. It was only casual fans like you who think it's a legit win. And him beating guys like Medina to win a title is:applause: . Not to mention his wars with Pacquaio without asking for a blood test to level the playing field .

And still FLoyd has not beaten a single HOF fighter in their prime:no:

[Rooster]

Imagine Floyd fighting Floyd... It would amount to nothing but a dance with ZERO actual combat. :oldlol:

True masters of the "Sweet Science" were fighters like Wilfredo Benitez, Julio Ceasar Chavez, and, well, I could go on but I'm not trying to piss off Flomo's.

Guys like SRL and Sweat Pea made guys missed and counters with conviction and authority :applause: as opposed to Floyd slapping it on the fly.:facepalm and gives hugs and kisses with his track shoes.

[branslowski]

WTF. Is that what you're all about. :facepalm

Look when every boxing fans wanted Floyd to fight Cotto, Margarito, Williams and Pacquaio, he made every excuses to avoid them. He was a ducking diva.
Every Floyd apologist believed Cotto was done when he faced Pacquaio, now the 180 spin move:oldlol:

No one wanted to see JMM fight Floyd. It was only casual fans like you who think it's a legit win. And him beating guys like Medina to win a title is:applause: . Not to mention his wars with Pacquaio without asking for a blood test to level the playing field .

And still FLoyd has not beaten a single HOF fighter in their prime:no:

No...:facepalm

Obviously Cotto wasn't done, so don't try to throw a handful of morons opinions at me...So again, you BS excuse is nullified...You didn't even refute any of my points...He beat the boxers you say he was dunking (Cotto and Pac) wanna make excuses about Age/Prime yet Floyd was older than Cotto and 38 when he fought Pac, nullified....You just make excuse after excuse weak ass reasons for why Floyd didn't lose...All this to mask the fact that he beat all those great fighters...

And again with the Margarito BS, so I'll ask you again, do you really think Margarito would have beaten Floyd?

[branslowski]

Guys like SRL and Sweat Pea made guys missed and counters with conviction and authority :applause: as opposed to Floyd slapping it on the fly.:facepalm and gives hugs and kisses with his track shoes.

So Floyd got 26 Knockouts from hugs n Kisses? He outlands 98% of his opponents in fights due to Hugs and Kisses? Right?:facepalm

[Rooster]

So Floyd got 26 Knockouts from hugs n Kisses? He outlands 98% of his opponents in fights due to Hugs and Kisses? Right?:facepalm

26 knockouts against who?:facepalm

[branslowski]

26 knockouts against who?:facepalm

You just was Bragging about Cotto's and Marquez's early days against non HOF...:facepalm

I'm asking you, If Floyd only runs and hugs, How does he TKO Gatti, Corrales, Hatton, Ortiz??:confusedshrug:

[Rooster]

No...:facepalm

Obviously Cotto wasn't done, so don't try to throw a handful of morons opinions at me...So again, you BS excuse is nullified...You didn't even refute any of my points...He beat the boxers you say he was dunking (Cotto and Pac) wanna make excuses about Age/Prime yet Floyd was older than Cotto and 38 when he fought Pac, nullified....You just make excuse after excuse weak ass reasons for why Floyd didn't lose...All this to mask the fact that he beat all those great fighters...

And again with the Margarito BS, so I'll ask you again, do you really think Margarito would have beaten Floyd?

What BS excuses. :facepalm

Casual fans used age to determine primes.:wtf:

How old was El Radar?:rolleyes:

How old was Maravilla:confusedshrug:

[branslowski]

What BS excuses. :facepalm

Casual fans used age to determine primes.:wtf:

How old was El Radar?:rolleyes:

How old was Maravilla:confusedshrug:

Ur making excuses for why Floyd won his fights against Pac and Cotto:facepalm

Casual fans??:oldlol: You the one sounding casual...You sound like you only watched Floyds last 6 Pay Per View fight and watched 0 late 90's early to mid 00's fights...And to say age has nothing to do with Prime..:facepalm

[Rooster]

You just was Bragging about Cotto's and Marquez's early days against non HOF...:facepalm

I'm asking you, If Floyd only runs and hugs, How does he TKO Gatti, Corrales, Hatton, Ortiz??:confusedshrug:

Floyd gave them a kisser. :confusedshrug:

Honestly Floyd was a beast before Margarito pussified him. The Ortiz knockout was not legit , but it comes with protect yourself at all time of which Floyd took advantage.

[Rooster]

Ur making excuses for why Floyd won his fights against Pac and Cotto:facepalm

Casual fans??:oldlol: You the one sounding casual...You sound like you only watched Floyds last 6 Pay Per View fight and watched 0 late 90's early to mid 00's fights...And to say age has nothing to do with Prime..:facepalm

Anyone uses the alphabet belts to call them champions is a casual fan.:no:

And Floyd first pro fight was telecast. He was groomed right from the start.:rolleyes:

[branslowski]

Anyone uses the alphabet belts to call them champions is a casual fan.:no:

And Floyd first pro fight was telecast. He was groomed right from the start.:rolleyes:

OK..:rolleyes:

[dunksby]

So Floyd's last fight makes him more money than what everybody in here makes in a lifetime and it's got the bums mad, proceed :lol

[plowking]

It was a high price tuneup fight for Floyd. I wish he didn't retire in 2008. Pacquiao still has a better resume than him.

Not only is Pac's resume not better, it isn't close.

This is literally a hangers on mentality in sports. Pac fans are great at it in boxing. Floyd has already done everything better and beaten Pac? Time to discredit the level of comp and other factors to make my guy sound better. Exactly what goes on.

We get it. Some of you are still made he has beaten everyone. But once again, hangers on mentality, "he didn't beat them when I wanted him to fight them". :oldlol:

[plowking]

Man you have guys like Rooster on here who only posts negative things. Like, 100% of his posts. There is no actual discussion in his post, simply ranting, and insulting everyone trying to get them to agree with him. :oldlol:
You, Hamtaro, and gilalizard should all get on a boat together and sail to the middle of the ocean. Argue for a lifetime, and you can all get away from your depressing lives, since something is clearly riling you up and making you made non stop. :oldlol:

[PistonsFan#21]

Being a Floyd hater must be the most depressing thing in the world :lol
The guy you cheer for always ends up losing...all 49 times. And on top of that hes making the most money in boxing history yet there is guys like Godzuki trying to make fun of his PPV numbers? :facepalm

All the Floyd haters have left is excuses really. because the facts are not in their favor

#49-0
#TBE
#TMT

[Godzuki]

it makes me laff how all the worst opinion in the world floyd stans can only make defenses with how much floyd makes with completely retarded points like he makes more than average people so nobody can talk lmao :oldlol:

y'all are some stupid ass arguing mf'ers. argue his game, not how much money he makes morons, since everyone is clowning how he 'fights' :facepalm

its always pointing out how much money he makes or his inflated hand picked undefeated stat but never trying to argue how he runs and hugs, avoiding as much fighting as possible to win :lol

obviously u floyd dikk sucking fgts can't argue with that reality therefore u make dumbass unrelated points to everyone saying he's overrated as fukk :applause:

PS u all are great examples why nobody should take know it all opinions seriously. like movie critics, like nba anaylsts, and analysts for pretty much everything. just because they're super into it doesn't mean they know wtf they're talking about. what it really comes down to is how well u observe things, and i swear u floyd stans are some of the worst observational mf'ers on the planet. i mean there are at least boxing stans who dislike his game, know he's overrated and over hyped, but u fgts don't own up to shit.

[Rooster]

Man you have guys like Rooster on here who only posts negative things. Like, 100% of his posts. There is no actual discussion in his post, simply ranting, and insulting everyone trying to get them to agree with him. :oldlol:
You, Hamtaro, and gilalizard should all get on a boat together and sail to the middle of the ocean. Argue for a lifetime, and you can all get away from your depressing lives, since something is clearly riling you up and making you made non stop. :oldlol:

What discussion:facepalm

All you know about are Tyson, Roy Jones and Floyd:rolleyes:

If I tell you that there's a fighter that never won a title that is greater than those 3 , you probably don't have a single clue.:no:

[Rooster]

Not only is Pac's resume not better, it isn't close.

This is literally a hangers on mentality in sports. Pac fans are great at it in boxing. Floyd has already done everything better and beaten Pac? Time to discredit the level of comp and other factors to make my guy sound better. Exactly what goes on.

We get it. Some of you are still made he has beaten everyone. But once again, hangers on mentality, "he didn't beat them when I wanted him to fight them". :oldlol:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Did Floyd beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar badly like Pac.:no:

When you claim Floyd was the greatest ever, in what merit that he was.

Undefeated:rolleyes: he lost to Castillo. You want to see the fight and you want to see the compubox. Do you want to see who imposed his style, dictated the tempo and landed the meaningful blows.:rolleyes:

Resum

[PistonsFan#21]

it makes me laff how all the worst opinion in the world floyd stans can only make defenses with how much floyd makes with completely retarded points like he makes more than average people so nobody can talk lmao :oldlol:

y'all are some stupid ass arguing mf'ers. argue his game, not how much money he makes morons, since everyone is clowning how he 'fights' :facepalm

its always pointing out how much money he makes or his inflated hand picked undefeated stat but never trying to argue how he runs and hugs, avoiding as much fighting as possible to win :lol

obviously u floyd dikk sucking fgts can't argue with that reality therefore u make dumbass unrelated points to everyone saying he's overrated as fukk :applause:

PS u all are great examples why nobody should take know it all opinions seriously. like movie critics, like nba anaylsts, and analysts for pretty much everything. just because they're super into it doesn't mean they know wtf they're talking about. what it really comes down to is how well u observe things, and i swear u floyd stans are some of the worst observational mf'ers on the planet. i mean there are at least boxing stans who dislike his game, know he's overrated and over hyped, but u fgts don't own up to shit.

:biggums:

Ain't you the one that made this thread trying to laugh at how much this fight sold? With you being a Floyd hater i know where you coming from though. You trying to reach at anything to try and discredit the man because obviously you cant make fun of his record. And now you are so confused that you wanna take jabs at this fight PPV numbers yet you get all butthurt when people point out to you that Floyd is the most paid athlete (not only boxing) in the world. Your opinion is pretty much worthless. Numbers dont lie

[DonDraper]

Floyd needs a new marketing manager.....and I'm still in California.

Call me Floyd!

[PistonsFan#21]

[QUOTE=Rooster]:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Did Floyd beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar badly like Pac.:no:

When you claim Floyd was the greatest ever, in what merit that he was.

Undefeated:rolleyes: he lost to Castillo. You want to see the fight and you want to see the compubox. Do you want to see who imposed his style, dictated the tempo and landed the meaningful blows.:rolleyes:

Resum

[Rooster]

He did it to Corrales. It was a TKO actually but the fight was stopped after he dropped Corrales for the 5th time. If i recall correctly he never was an underdog after that fight. Unless maybe for the Oscar fight?

Also since you think Mayweather was all about protecting his record why would he give Castillo a rematch if everybody felt like it was a tough matchup for him and that he might have even lost that 1st fight?

Nope not the Chico fight. Floyd was a slight favorite on that fight. He was at least -130 on many bookers and he won me some money. And against Oscar he was -190 almost a 2-1 favorite just like against Pacquiao.

And like I said Floyd was a beast back in the days :bowdown: . He validated that loss (in the eyes of many )with pretty clear and convincing win in the rematch.

I was a Floyd apologist way back and I understood his excuse on why he does not want any part of Margarito before getting that Oscar fight. But after getting the Oscar fight, its beginning to look like all he care about is protecting that precious 0 and making the most money. Margarito, then Cotto, then Paul Williams then all of a sudden a blown up featherweight knocking out welterweights by name of Pacquaio keep coming to the scene and all you hear from Floyd are excuses and retiring left and right. Floyd turn in into a duck ducking diva. It's ashame because he could been really greater but hey just like his fans, not actual boxing say, he made the most money. I guess they are part of that payroll too.:confusedshrug:

[DaOldLion]

that's terrible

[plowking]

"Can't beat HOF in their prime"
"Casual fan"
"I know more boxers"
"blah blah blah"

This guy thinks repeating shit will make it true. You can say the sky is green a million times, won't make it so little one.

[red1]

LMAO Op is still a fggt

[plowking]

He did it to Corrales. It was a TKO actually but the fight was stopped after he dropped Corrales for the 5th time. If i recall correctly he never was an underdog after that fight. Unless maybe for the Oscar fight?

Also since you think Mayweather was all about protecting his record why would he give Castillo a rematch if everybody felt like it was a tough matchup for him and that he might have even lost that 1st fight?

Apparently being an underdog in a fight and winning is what is important.
How often was George Foreman an underdog exactly? How about Lennox Lewis? Hagler? Ali?

Apparently you have to have no shot of winning, be an underdog several times to be a true great. These people will only be happy if Floyd is fighting middle and cruiserweights. :oldlol:

[Rooster]

Apparently being an underdog in a fight and winning is what is important.
How often was George Foreman an underdog exactly? How about Lennox Lewis? Hagler? Ali?

Apparently you have to have no shot of winning, be an underdog several times to be a true great. These people will only be happy if Floyd is fighting middle and cruiserweights. :oldlol:

Great accomplishment comes from a great risk.:confusedshrug:

And you even asking about Ali. SMH. You are clearly clueless, you keep reaching and you keep getting unintentionally funny.

Floyd is an ATG. But comparing him to other greats, he is Just not as accomplished like you and the other casual fans think he is. Cherypicks, ducking tough fights, also a diva who made sure a huge underdog puncher like Maidana wear a pillow gloves because he is the boss.

And of course did he billed his fight against Baldomir "Pretty Risky". LMAO. Margarito train express laughing so hard on this one.

[Wally450]

People are mad that Floyd is still the best at age 38.

Who cares that his fight did 500K PPV buys, do you realize that his last one did like 6.4 million buys? He said something along the lines of he doesn't really care about how much this last fight does. He getting paid by Showtime anyways.

:applause:

[Facepalm]

So yawl so madd at Floyd that you gotta make a "Imagine Floyd fighting Floyd no impact" comment.

Can I ask you something because in the NBA Forum you have more logic than the trolls...

If Floyd only runs, holds, or only plays defense then can you tell me how he got 26 Knockouts? Can you tell me why they ended the Gatti, Corrales, Hatton, and Ortiz fights early? Can you tell me why he threw nearly the same amount of punches as Pac yet landed 148 of them while Pac only landed 89 (but Pac more agressive lol)...Can you tell me what Boxing is? If you fought, wouldn't you wanna hit and not be hit?

Tell you what, A or B...You pick one and I'll just leave you alone and accept your opinion:

A) You win fight in 12 rounds UD, 120-108 All around...You throw 378 punches and land 200, your opponent throws 392 punches lands 61...You outbox your opponent, leave fight with 50 million Dollars, with no marks or injuries aside from a sore hand.


B) You win Fight in 10th Round Knockout, you throw 500 punches land 208, your opponent throws 525 punches lands 197...You win fight, but leave with 2 swollen eyes and a broken nose cause you wanted to Brawl, ya wife n kids look at your face in discuss, you end up with Brain issues 3 days later


I know the truth to all these, but rather see where you stand.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IdNufGTwK8M/UjozZczHYMI/AAAAAAAABGY/-bfLkU-4Jq0/s1600/TysonFacepalm.jpg

[Godzuki]

:biggums:

Ain't you the one that made this thread trying to laugh at how much this fight sold? With you being a Floyd hater i know where you coming from though. You trying to reach at anything to try and discredit the man because obviously you cant make fun of his record. And now you are so confused that you wanna take jabs at this fight PPV numbers yet you get all butthurt when people point out to you that Floyd is the most paid athlete (not only boxing) in the world. Your opinion is pretty much worthless. Numbers dont lie


i've ALWAYS been clowning his lame ass chicken avoiding the fight, fight style fool. i've never seen in the antithesis of someone in a profession to that profession than floyd :coleman:

pointing out how much his PPV's dropped i'm rubbing it in to u floyd stan'ing fgts how everyone else has caught on to the fraud that is his hype. even Berto call it, rousey called it, tyson called it, and everyone acknowledges it but lame ass Floyd stans.

i clown his record too for hand picking to stay undefeated and inflate it, and ducking people in their primes only to fight them later when they look weak.

like i said nobody in this world has worse observational abilities and more terrible opinions than floyd stans. i have so little respect for how u bitches see things that even if i was driving with mud caked on the windshield and u told me there was a cliff in front i'd ignore ure ass :coleman: i swear its the same bad opinion sport fans who inhabit the sport fan world with retard views on things i hear on sports radio all of the time :facepalm

[Godzuki]

People are mad that Floyd is still the best at age 38.

Who cares that his fight did 500K PPV buys, do you realize that his last one did like 6.4 million buys? He said something along the lines of he doesn't really care about how much this last fight does. He getting paid by Showtime anyways.

:applause:


thats the point fool :oldlol:

everyone wised up to how awful the opinions many boxing fans have these days calling some squirrel running around the ring avoiding the fighting as much as possible to win on weak punch counts goat :biggums:

terrible era in boxing :sleeping

[Godzuki]

its a small ring
why cant an all time great like Pacquiao hit a running squirrel

:biggums:


because boxing is gay as fukk where u get warnings and points deducted for grabbing mf'ers running, or throwing them off of u when they're trying to hug.

they need to bring that shit back to Rocky - Clubber Lang shit now that there's some overhyped scrub abusing every lame rule to his advantage not to fight, thats boring as fukk.

[Kblaze8855]

Rocky and Clubber lang? You....arent actually a fan of the sport are you?

[DonDadda59]

because boxing is gay as fukk where u get warnings and points deducted for grabbing mf'ers running, or throwing them off of u when they're trying to hug.

they need to bring that shit back to Rocky - Clubber Lang shit now that there's some overhyped scrub abusing every lame rule to his advantage not to fight, thats boring as fukk.

GOAT 2 fight series. :bowdown:

Why was there never a rubber match though? Couldn't agree on the money split? :confusedshrug:

[Godzuki]

Rocky and Clubber lang? You....arent actually a fan of the sport are you?


up until these days yes i was, when calling a boxer a 'great' meant they were bad mf'ers and actually fought :coleman:

either u have amnesia or just started following boxing since the lame ass floyd era :rolleyes:

[Godzuki]

GOAT 2 fight series. :bowdown:

Why was there never a rubber match though? Couldn't agree on the money split? :confusedshrug:


MrT was too busy blowin up nikka's with A team :pimp:

[Kblaze8855]

If you want to see people who cant box watch rocky movies where every punch landed. You want to watch someone make pros look foolish watch Floyd. People are never going to agree on this matter. There will always be people saying teams were boring because they just played defense and won ugly. In the end....win.

If my brief attempt to box taught me nothing...its that making someone who knows how to punch...swing and miss....takes skill. I cant imagine making Manny miss me 200+ times.



Dudes with a year in the sport were jabbing me in the face with impunity and had me punching air like an idiot.







http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ksipCJGv7QE/UcM-tySFkcI/AAAAAAAAMnU/b0SGfPvhgwg/s1600/mayweather-dodge.gif


Shit like that takes so much talent, quickness, and precision I can barely take a man serious acting like hes just out there running.

A world class boxer doesnt throw a punch at you when you arent close enough to hit. That they do it and miss 400 times is worthy of respect.

People talking shit online so often just sound like children. You cant run your way to 20 years undefeated. People talking about him waiting till people got old...who are years younger than him....

He fights one more time vs anyone the world knows hes gonna break a billion in career earnings and dudes hanging their whole argument on "low" PPV sales after he just set the sales record vs a guy who did less numbers than Floyd just did in his previous fight.

Few people have ever been as good at what they do as he is at what he does. And he lets killers throw punches at his face with bad intentions for a living. But hes soft...a coward.

Like your bitch ass is gonna step in the ring....

Talking about Rocky.....

[Godzuki]

If you want to see people who cant box watch rocky movies where every punch landed. You want to watch someone make pros look foolish watch Floyd. People are never going to agree on this matter. There will always be people saying teams were boring because they just played defense and won ugly. In the end....win.

If my brief attempt to box taught me nothing...its that making someone who knows how to punch...swing and miss....takes skill. I cant imagine making Manny miss me 200+ times.



Dudes with a year in the sport were jabbing me in the face with impunity and had me punching air like an idiot.







http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ksipCJGv7QE/UcM-tySFkcI/AAAAAAAAMnU/b0SGfPvhgwg/s1600/mayweather-dodge.gif


Shit like that takes so much talent, quickness, and precision I can barely take a man serious acting like hes just out there running.

A world class boxer doesnt throw a punch at you when you arent close enough to hit. That they do it and miss 400 times is worthy of respect.

People talking shit online so often just sound like children. You cant run your way to 20 years undefeated. People talking about him waiting till people got old...who are years younger than him....

He fights one more time vs anyone the world knows hes gonna break a billion in career earnings and dudes hanging their whole argument on "low" PPV sales after he just set the sales record vs a guy who did less numbers than Floyd just did in his previous fight.

Few people have ever been as good at what they do as he is at what he does. And he lets killers throw punches at his face with bad intentions for a living. But hes soft...a coward.

Like your bitch ass is gonna step in the ring....

Talking about Rocky.....


ummm pretty sure Rocky ducked and dodged a LOT of clubber's haymakers.

thing they did that floyd doesn't do is they actually fought and wanted to kill each other. they could actually throw each other off if one tried hugging. best shit was when they'd throw the hugger off them and into the rope, then they'd bounce back and drop them :bowdown:

lets be real, no boxer runs like floyd in the history of the sport. his combination of running, hugging, and dodging all match avoiding the fight as much as possible to win on punch counts isnt even fighting. you all pretending to be boxing fans have no fukkin clue what the whole sport is founded on. pretentious fgts calling running, hugging, and dodging a art kill me :oldlol:

if u want to see something chase something else around for 12 rounds why not watch your dog chasing a cat? or your cat chasing a mouse? they'd be more entertaining than floyd at least :sleeping

and lmao @ ducking a punch takes so much precision and talent :roll: people do it all of the fukkin times jerkoff. you're one of them dumbasses that don't know small and quick dudes are good at dodging, so fukkin what they're hard to hit? it ONLY works in a boxing ring where mf'ers can't grab you and you're allowed to hug when someone corners your bitch ass.

like i said floyd stans are THE WORST observers in the sports world ^^ Please stop talking like u know anything because u don't, just exaggerated hyping your boy because ure gay as fukk.

[Godzuki]

https://media.giphy.com/media/qS7Kg5E2sLd16/giphy.gif

Shit like that takes so much talent, quickness, and precision


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

It only works in a boxing ring? In reference to a ....boxer? What the hell is wrong with you?

Should he not be doing things that work while boxing?

Should he be in there driving a forklift?

These are your quality observations?

[Godzuki]

It only works in a boxing ring? In reference to a ....boxer? What the hell is wrong with you?

Should he not be doing things that work while boxing?

Should he be in there driving a forklift?

These are your quality observations?

u know the principle of boxing is 'fighting', right? :biggums:

u know there was a time when boxers WERE feared and bad ass mf'ers IN and OUT of the ring?

so u don't think there is any correlation between boxing and fighting? u think fighting in that boxing ring should have zero relevance to fighting outside of it? :coleman:

only floyd stans :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

I think how good someone is isnt it determined by how good they would be doing something else.


I've not really been a fan of a boxer since Roy Jones in his prime or maybe Pernell Whitaker. I don't much care either way about Floyd and I've never actually bought a fight of his. I'll stream it like everything else.

first and foremost I'm a fan of a good argument. And you consistently sound like a ****ing moron. there are those who can make a bad case wonderfully. You do not have that gift

[Legends66NBA7]

You have a Top 10 all-time boxer list, Kblaze ?

[Godzuki]

I think how good someone is isnt it determined by how good they would be doing something else.


I've not really been a fan of a boxer since Roy Jones in his prime or maybe Pernell Whitaker. I don't much care either way about Floyd and I've never actually bought a fight of his. I'll stream it like everything else.

first and foremost I'm a fan of a good argument. And you consistently sound like a ****ing moron. there are those who can make a bad case wonderfully. You do not have that gift


i'm the goat observer on ISH bitch :pimp:

and coming from the dumbass that thinks ducking a punch is some special skill onlly floyd can do, and considers boxing completely separate from fighting you're not the best judge of what is a good argument and what isn't since you're a absolute retard :coleman:

go watch nascar or something if u like watching stuff chase other stuff around a ring :sleeping

[Kblaze8855]

I really need to make mental note of the few utterly hopeless posters here.

I never remember you till I make the mistake of engaging then its too late.

You must have been involved in 3 of the 10 most absurd arguments ive seen on ISH.

[Godzuki]

I really need to make mental note of the few utterly hopeless posters here.

I never remember you till I make the mistake of engaging then its too late.

You must have been involved in 3 of the 10 most absurd arguments ive seen on ISH.


noc's u pretentious fgt :biggums:

lmao u don't remember godzuki :oldlol:

do ureself a favor and stop talking like u know shit :coleman:

[ThePhantomCreep]

u know the principle of boxing is 'fighting', right? :biggums:

u know there was a time when boxers WERE feared and bad ass mf'ers IN and OUT of the ring?

so u don't think there is any correlation between boxing and fighting? u think fighting in that boxing ring should have zero relevance to fighting outside of it? :coleman:

only floyd stans :facepalm

The principle is "hit/don't get hit". Not "fight like two imbeciles in a bar".

Comparing boxing to a street fight is even dumber than comparing the NBA to And 1.

[oarabbus]

It only works in a boxing ring? In reference to a ....boxer? What the hell is wrong with you?

Should he not be doing things that work while boxing?

Should he be in there driving a forklift?

These are your quality observations?


I think how good someone is isnt it determined by how good they would be doing something else.


I've not really been a fan of a boxer since Roy Jones in his prime or maybe Pernell Whitaker. I don't much care either way about Floyd and I've never actually bought a fight of his. I'll stream it like everything else.

first and foremost I'm a fan of a good argument. And you consistently sound like a ****ing moron. there are those who can make a bad case wonderfully. You do not have that gift


:roll: :roll: :roll:

I actually lean more towards Godzuki's side of the argument here, but damn, that shit was on point.

[warriorfan]

Godzuki is legit insane :roll:

[Godzuki]

The principle is "hit/don't get hit". Not "fight like two imbeciles in a bar".

Comparing boxing to a street fight is even dumber than comparing the NBA to And 1.


in that case how about putting barry sanders in the ring? :coleman:

he could slap the guy and juke him the rest, running circles, for 12 rounds. if he wins on punch counts it means he's the better boxer, right? :biggums:

barry sanders could've been lb for lb goat boxer :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

Godzuki is legit insane :roll:


nah i'm just way smarter than u follow the crowd thinkers and watchers :pimp:

[Godzuki]

ameer abdullah could be lb for lb goat boxer today :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Godzuki]

earl boykins could be lb for lb goat boxer today :lol

[PistonsFan#21]

in that case how about putting barry sanders in the ring? :coleman:

he could slap the guy and juke him the rest, running circles, for 12 rounds. if he wins on punch counts it means he's the better boxer, right? :biggums:

barry sanders could've been lb for lb goat boxer :oldlol:

sure...if Barry Sanders also had the highest connected punch % while also landing more punches than his opponents and getting hit less in most of the rounds...thats actually what boxing is about

to hit and not getting hit. theres 2 sides to this sport

[Godzuki]

sure...if Barry Sanders also had the highest connected punch % while also landing more punches than his opponents and getting hit less in most of the rounds...then why not :confusedshrug:


he just has to land one and juke, run, and if cornered hug the rest. they could all do it with quickness.

they'd win on 1 punch landed vs 0 landed. 100% punch accuracy :bowdown:

[Godzuki]

lets be real, if you're a REAL boxing fan before the Floyd era u know boxing is supposed to be FAR more than this lame shit floyd stans pretend is the measure of a goat boxer :coleman:

[PistonsFan#21]

he just has to land one and juke, run, and if cornered hug the rest. they could all do it with quickness.

they'd win on 1 punch landed vs 0 landed. 100% punch accuracy :bowdown:

:facepalm

do you even know how professional boxing is scored? its a 10 point system. landing 1 punch in the 1st round and then running the rest of the rounds you gonna lose 11 rounds to 1 on the scorecards, even if the opponent didnt touch you once.

[Godzuki]

:facepalm

do you even know how professional boxing is scored? its a 10 point system. landing 1 punch in the 1st round and then running the rest of the rounds you gonna lose 11 rounds to 1 on the scorecards, even if the opponent didnt touch you once.


okay he just has to land 1 punch or body shot each round? :confusedshrug:

if hes quicker he could do it pretty ez :coleman:

point is anyone quicker could pull that off while avoiding the fighting altogether according to you all's idea of goat 'boxing' :rolleyes:

am i not understanding that you're justifying not fighting, and avoiding it is how everyone should ideally fight? just like floyd? :confusedshrug:

[PistonsFan#21]

okay he just has to land 1 punch or body shot each round? :confusedshrug:

if hes quicker he could do it pretty ez :coleman:

point is anyone quicker could pull that off while avoiding the fighting altogether according to you all's idea of goat 'boxing' :rolleyes:

am i not understanding that you're justifying not fighting, and avoiding it is how everyone should ideally fight? just like floyd? :confusedshrug:

you clearly have no boxing or fighting experience whatsoever :oldlol: Boxing is not only about speed its about good timing. Good luck trying to find some random athlete that gets close enough to a boxer to hit him without getting hit back. These guys are paid to hit people and dodge their punches for a living. No matter how fast you are you wont be able to get in range to hit them before they get you if you're not a professional boxer yourself.

Marquez was nowhere near as fast as Pacquiao yet he caused him trouble everytime and even knocked him out cold in their last fight. You can neutralize someone's speed with good counterpunching and accurate timing. This is perfect counter punching by the way but clueless people like you will call it running

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[ThePhantomCreep]

in that case how about putting barry sanders in the ring? :coleman:

he could slap the guy and juke him the rest, running circles, for 12 rounds. if he wins on punch counts it means he's the better boxer, right? :biggums:

barry sanders could've been lb for lb goat boxer :oldlol:

Dumbest Post Ever

There aren't enough facepalm smileys for the pollution you created in this thread. :facepalm

[PistonsFan#21]

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Im also not sure where that Mayweather hugging myth came from. He was known to move around alot and use his shoulder roll defense when he stood in the pocket. He had a bit more clinches in his last fights but hes now way past his prime years. Other greats like Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, etc were all getting knocked out by some chumps at his age. Floyd is 38 years old and still retired as the #1 P4P.

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[red1]

"hurr durr floyd just won a fight and made more money than I will ever make in my life, what a loser. guys can you believe how pathetic is he is? I told you I was right all along"

[Godzuki]

you clearly have no boxing or fighting experience whatsoever :oldlol: Boxing is not only about speed its about good timing. Good luck trying to find some random athlete that gets close enough to a boxer to hit him without getting hit back. These guys are paid to hit people and dodge their punches for a living. No matter how fast you are you wont be able to get in range to hit them before they get you if you're not a professional boxer yourself.

Marquez was nowhere near as fast as Pacquiao yet he caused him trouble everytime and even knocked him out cold in their last fight. You can neutralize someone's speed with good counterpunching and accurate timing. This is perfect counter punching by the way but clueless people like you will call it running

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u really have zero clue wtf you're talking about and that goes for all of the pretentious know it all floyd stans here its laffable u all keep making retard excuse after excuse to pretend he's so great.

if u fgts have ever been in a fight you'd know a quick dude could very easily dodge a lot of a bigger dudes punches, and very likely pop him, run, pop him, run, etc.

UNLESS the big dude grabs him and beats the fukk out of him. which u can't do in boxing obviously.

the big dude can also close on him where his reach can at least get a swing in before the quicker dude runs out of reach, but too bad this quicker dude hugs him per boxing rules.

u fgts ever been in a fight? u know how slow bigger dudes are, and how much quicker smaller guys are? if real fights were about judges and score cards and boxing rules, they could endlessly get in pop him, run/hug, and win on lame ass stats.

i swear y'all mf'ers live on a different planet if u think its so hard to dodge punches if you're quick. i guess y'all are slow as fukk or something since its not nearly as hard as u pretend it is IF you're quick :coleman:

[Godzuki]

Dumbest Post Ever

There aren't enough facepalm smileys for the pollution you created in this thread. :facepalm


too bad i proved my point with it how lame u floyd era boxing fan fgts see things :cheers:

[Godzuki]

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Im also not sure where that Mayweather hugging myth came from. He was known to move around alot and use his shoulder roll defense when he stood in the pocket. He had a bit more clinches in his last fights but hes now way past his prime years. Other greats like Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr, etc were all getting knocked out by some chumps at his age. Floyd is 38 years old and still retired as the #1 P4P.

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lmao the millions of people clowning him for running/hugging, vowing to never pay for a fight of his again, is all just a myth :roll: :roll: :roll:

i swear u floyd stans live on a different planet and see things that aren't real. there's something really wrong with your observational abilities :coleman:

[plowking]

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Every time I watch that DLH fight with Floyd, I still can't believe it was a MD victory... :oldlol:

Dude made him look stupid, and those end of round flurries were hitting air and shoulders all day long. Typical DLH getting the roll of votes to go his way even when they were undeserved.

[Godzuki]

"hurr durr floyd just won a fight and made more money than I will ever make in my life, what a loser. guys can you believe how pathetic is he is? I told you I was right all along"


lol this retard talkin like if anyone makes more money than u u can't criticize him :facepalm

are u floyd stans really this fukkin dumb? :biggums:

where is the correlation between floyd's game being incredibly overrated and being rich? so by your logic u couldn't criticize anyone in the world :oldlol:

[plowking]

Has anyone figured out the point godzuki is trying to make?

If everyone could do it, why don't they? More money, more wins, and less damage than any other boxer sounds great. Why isn't everyone doing it?

[Godzuki]

Has anyone figured out the point godzuki is trying to make?

If everyone could do it, why don't they? More money, more wins, and less damage than any other boxer sounds great. Why isn't everyone doing it?


pretty sure everyone has figured out the point i'm making but floyd stans who make up their own reality :rolleyes:

y'all are THE worst observational people i've ever witnessed. you're the biggest excuse making stans i've ever come across. i mean if its not some hand picked undefeated record stat, its he's rich therefore u can't criticize him lmao :oldlol:

now y'all mf'ers pretend like dodging something means goat and nobody else can do it :lol u all have the nerve to ask if i've ever been in a fight, its very clear to me most of u haven't.

most of u don't even have enough common sense to realize in a sport where u can't grab and push off, and fight like floyd, its impossible to stop.

you're right tho, i never denied he wasn't the goat runner/hugger in boxing history. i agree nobody can abuse boxings lamest rules as well as floyd can :applause:

its just to me, since i think the sport should have some integrity in relation to its origins of it being a fight sport, that a good or even great boxer should be 'fighting' and not running/hugging his way to W's :pimp:

[plowking]

You're telling me I'm dodging the questions, but why hasn't anyone else done what Floyd has?

Why hasn't Earl Boykins become an all time great boxer like you said he could using Floyd's tactics? I'm sure he'd prefer Floyd's paychecks over his.

So, why aren't there more like Floyd?

[warriorfan]

even though 99 percent of the stuff godzuki says is insane bullshit he is right that flloyd guys always bring up his bankroll during boxing discussions :lol

[Godzuki]

You're telling me I'm dodging the questions, but why hasn't anyone else done what Floyd has?

Why hasn't Earl Boykins become an all time great boxer like you said he could using Floyd's tactics? I'm sure he'd prefer Floyd's paychecks over his.

So, why aren't there more like Floyd?


he probably could if he weren't old and already committed his life to bball.

barry sanders would've been lb for lb goat too if he trained boxiing with floyd boxing rule abuse gaming. imagine him hugging, running, and dodging his way to punch count stat% W's :eek:

i mean floyd laid the blueprint i guess, so i'm sure someone else will come along and run/hug/dodge their way to goat again until the rules are fixed to maintain boxings integrity as a 'fight' sport, and not a run/hug one.

every sport goes thru issues in different eras where rules need adjustments to being gamed, or made boring.

[plowking]

We've had Floyd around for 19 years, and no one has bothered to copy him given his success, and prize money. Surely someone would have wanted to copy that guy that was making $300 million in a single fight?

Why hasn't it happened despite their being almost 20 years of studying for a possible successor?

[Godzuki]

We've had Floyd around for 19 years, and no one has bothered to copy him given his success, and prize money. Surely someone would have wanted to copy that guy that was making $300 million in a single fight?

Why hasn't it happened despite their being almost 20 years of studying for a possible successor?


i'm sure there are future floyd's being trained to run/hug their way to Ws as we speak...

hell there are probably a few in junior boxing already who fight like that.

hopefully boxing won't let the sport die out with that kind of future champion tho :coleman:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Manny has some of the fastest hands of his (or any) era, he couldn't land a thing on Floyd. That takes ridiculous skill-- why is this Gump talking about Earl Boykins?

[Godzuki]

Manny has some of the fastest hands of his (or any) era, he couldn't land a thing on Floyd. That takes ridiculous skill.

Earl Boykins? GTFOH with your extreme lack of knowledge. It's embarrassing.


go fight earl boykin's without being able to grab or push him, then get back to me after u get ure ass beat :pimp:

[PistonsFan#21]

Every time I watch that DLH fight with Floyd, I still can't believe it was a MD victory... :oldlol:

Dude made him look stupid, and those end of round flurries were hitting air and shoulders all day long. Typical DLH getting the roll of votes to go his way even when they were undeserved.

Oscar was the Golden boy poster boy at the time and a big crowd favorite. His flurries were all misses for the most part but it got the crowd hype for some reason because they thought he might have landed something with Floyd against the ropes. Their reaction influenced the judges scoring for sure.

[PistonsFan#21]

u really have zero clue wtf you're talking about and that goes for all of the pretentious know it all floyd stans here its laffable u all keep making retard excuse after excuse to pretend he's so great.

if u fgts have ever been in a fight you'd know a quick dude could very easily dodge a lot of a bigger dudes punches, and very likely pop him, run, pop him, run, etc.

UNLESS the big dude grabs him and beats the fukk out of him. which u can't do in boxing obviously.

the big dude can also close on him where his reach can at least get a swing in before the quicker dude runs out of reach, but too bad this quicker dude hugs him per boxing rules.

u fgts ever been in a fight? u know how slow bigger dudes are, and how much quicker smaller guys are? if real fights were about judges and score cards and boxing rules, they could endlessly get in pop him, run/hug, and win on lame ass stats.

i swear y'all mf'ers live on a different planet if u think its so hard to dodge punches if you're quick. i guess y'all are slow as fukk or something since its not nearly as hard as u pretend it is IF you're quick :coleman:

Dude what are you even saying? :biggums:

We are talking about 2 boxers that fight in the same weight class here, not a street fight between an untrained big guy VS a smaller quicker guy. You make it sound like Floyd is fighting some slow overweight guys off the street. Truth is he fought against the top 5 guys in his weight class most of his career going from 130lbs to 154lbs.

You make it sound like bigger guys actually have a disadvantage in a boxing match. DO you even know why there is weight classes?


go fight earl boykin's without being able to grab or push him, then get back to me after u get ure ass beat :pimp:

So you're saying Earl Boykins would beat a heavyweight boxer if he wasnt allowed to grab or push him? nice logic there

[catch24]

Pacquiao circa 2007-2010 vs FMJ would have been a matchup for the ages.

I'd still rather see a rematch of the 2 than Pac vs Khan. To me, Khan has a weak chin and he would eat all those fluries from Pacman. Garcia is a bit overrated and made dude look silly, tbh.

[plowking]

Pacquiao circa 2007-2010 vs FMJ would have been a matchup for the ages.

I'd still rather see a rematch of the 2 than Pac vs Khan. To me, Khan has a weak chin and he would eat all those fluries from Pacman. Garcia is a bit overrated and made dude look silly, tbh.

:oldlol:

[catch24]

:oldlol:

You don't think so?

That version of Pacquiao was far more hungry, and a bit faster with less mileage and more athleticism.

Same could be said for Floyd, though.

[iamgine]

Oscar was the Golden boy poster boy at the time and a big crowd favorite. His flurries were all misses for the most part but it got the crowd hype for some reason because they thought he might have landed something with Floyd against the ropes. Their reaction influenced the judges scoring for sure.
Was he still the Golden Boy? I know people still loved him but he already lost 4 out of his previous 11 matches at that point and was at the tail end of his career when he fought Floyd and Manny.

[Rooster]

Pacquiao circa 2007-2010 vs FMJ would have been a matchup for the ages.

I'd still rather see a rematch of the 2 than Pac vs Khan. To me, Khan has a weak chin and he would eat all those fluries from Pacman. Garcia is a bit overrated and made dude look silly, tbh.

Floyd did not want any part of Pac at that time.:no:

He even ask for a blood test to level the playing field.:roll: :oldlol:

[PistonsFan#21]

Floyd did not want any part of Pac at that time.:no:

He even ask for a blood test to level the playing field.:roll: :oldlol:

And Pacquiao disagreed because he claimed to be scared of needles :lol

[Rooster]

And Pacquiao disagreed because he claimed to be scared of needles :lol

When did he ever said that:facepalm

Proof:confusedshrug:

[Rooster]

Was he still the Golden Boy? I know people still loved him but he already lost 4 out of his previous 11 matches at that point and was at the tail end of his career when he fought Floyd and Manny.

Oscar was overrated just like Floyd is.:oldlol:

[red1]

lol this retard talkin like if anyone makes more money than u u can't criticize him :facepalm

are u floyd stans really this fukkin dumb? :biggums:

where is the correlation between floyd's game being incredibly overrated and being rich? so by your logic u couldn't criticize anyone in the world :oldlol:
That's not the point I am making dumbass. I am saying that YOU specifically are a retard giving yourself a pat on the back because floyd sold "only 500k PPVs." That is actually not bad at all for a fighter past his prime fighting a boxer who is nothing special. If floyd was exposed in the ring then that would be one thing but the fact that you celebrate something like this because you think it proves a point shows just how insignificant and petty you are.

[plowking]

When did he ever said that:facepalm

Proof:confusedshrug:

His trainer said it, and there are videos all over youtube him saying that blood testing makes him weak. Not even 15 days before the fight was good enough for him because he was apparently in heavy training and didn't want to be affected. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

Nobody gives a shit that Floyd Armstrong Jr. took his ponzi scheme and went home. Usually Boxing/Sports fans are sad to see great, popular champions go.

With Floyd, only 500K idiots were swindled into watching another one of his pointless $75 sparring matches and everyone else is like 'But I want a refund doe'.

Good f*cking riddance.

[PistonsFan#21]

When did he ever said that:facepalm

Proof:confusedshrug:

He must have said so to Bob Arum since he brought it up :confusedshrug:

Not sure why the ''it weakens me'' excuse wasnt brought up this time around after Pacquiao took 2 losses to Bradley and Marquez and was trying to get a big paycheck

[plowking]

You don't think so?

That version of Pacquiao was far more hungry, and a bit faster with less mileage and more athleticism.

Same could be said for Floyd, though.

Would have KO'd him like Marquez did.

Floyd is more precise with his punching than Marquez ever was and would have landed more clean hits on Pac than Marquez ever could. Manny would just keep coming forward and Floyd's hands weren't in as bad shape as he was come the time they actually fought.

[plowking]

Nobody gives a shit that Floyd Armstrong Jr. took his ponzi scheme and went home. Usually Boxing/Sports fans are sad to see great, popular champions go.

With Floyd, only 500K idiots were swindled into watching another one of his pointless $75 sparring matches and everyone else is like 'But I want a refund doe'.

Good f*cking riddance.

Why are you mad Dadda?

Floyd's one of the best and you're acting like some rip off merchant just left the game. Floyd rarely ever bolstered fights for more than what they were. He was never the type to say "Ima KO him, tune in and see it"...

All he ever said was "tune in and watch, or don't"... Ripping fans off? Swindled? Some of us like seeing a guy that good at what he does. In fact, outside of the Maidana fights and this last one, Floyd's fights have been awesome to watch.

[catch24]

Would have KO'd him like Marquez did.

Floyd is more precise with his punching than Marquez ever was and would have landed more clean hits on Pac than Marquez ever could. Manny would just keep coming forward and Floyd's hands weren't in as bad shape as he was come the time they actually fought.

Don't know about that...

Marquez KO'd Pacman in their 4th fight, and dude was past his prime. He's been since the first Bradley I, IMO. Definitely not the same version he was those years I listed.

I would have liked to see the fight just so all the crazies on both ends could shut up. :oldlol:

[plowking]

Don't know about that...

Marquez KO'd Pacman in their 4th fight, and dude was past his prime. He's been since the first Bradley I, IMO. Definitely not the same version he was those years I listed.

I would have liked to see the fight just so all the crazies on both ends could shut up. :oldlol:

It would have been the same as now. Floyd wins, and a bunch of excuses from Manny himself, and his fans.

Nothing but meme's of "running", "hugging" and "dancing" despite Manny getting thoroughly outclassed, both with his actions in the ring, and then later with how he handled the loss.

[Rooster]

He must have said so to Bob Arum since he brought it up :confusedshrug:

Not sure why the ''it weakens me'' excuse wasnt brought up this time around after Pacquiao took 2 losses to Bradley and Marquez and was trying to get a big paycheck

So in other words, you're just making it up.:facepalm

How about this real talk:oldlol:

"we are not fighting to prove to the boxing fans who the best is":oldlol: :roll:

[Rooster]

It would have been the same as now. Floyd wins, and a bunch of excuses from Manny himself, and his fans.

Nothing but meme's of "running", "hugging" and "dancing" despite Manny getting thoroughly outclassed, both with his actions in the ring, and then later with how he handled the loss.

:facepalm :facepalm

But take the test though:oldlol:

[Rooster]

Don't know about that...

Marquez KO'd Pacman in their 4th fight, and dude was past his prime. He's been since the first Bradley I, IMO. Definitely not the same version he was those years I listed.

I would have liked to see the fight just so all the crazies on both ends could shut up. :oldlol:

Pac has been in too many wars. He's a damaged goods. The only career defining win for Floyd came with an asterisk and an injured shoulder too,

[Rooster]

Nobody gives a shit that Floyd Armstrong Jr. took his ponzi scheme and went home. Usually Boxing/Sports fans are sad to see great, popular champions go.

With Floyd, only 500K idiots were swindled into watching another one of his pointless $75 sparring matches and everyone else is like 'But I want a refund doe'.

Good f*cking riddance.

I still can't believed he could duped 500 K clueless fans . One thing for sure , the guy knows business. As far as accomplishment, he underachieved because he took little risks.

[PistonsFan#21]

Pac has been in too many wars. He's a damaged goods. The only career defining win for Floyd came with an asterisk and an injured shoulder too,

Sounds like some more excuses to me. First he was ducking Pacquiao, now Pacquiao is too old and damaged goods even though Floyd is 2 years older. And on top of that we gonna add a shoulder injury that came out of nowhere and surely didnt prevent Pacquiao from unleashing meaningless power punches on Floyds shoulders and gloves when he was against the ropes. Whats it gonna be next year when they get a rematch with the same results? Pacquiao didnt get his favorite bowl of cereal the morning of the fight? :roll:

[DonD13]

Nobody gives a shit that Floyd Armstrong Jr. took his ponzi scheme and went home. Usually Boxing/Sports fans are sad to see great, popular champions go.

With Floyd, only 500K idiots were swindled into watching another one of his pointless $75 sparring matches and everyone else is like 'But I want a refund doe'.

Good f*cking riddance.

do people really believe he's out for good?

he be back

[Rooster]

Sounds like some more excuses to me. First he was ducking Pacquiao, now Pacquiao is too old and damaged goods even though Floyd is 2 years older. And on top of that we gonna add a shoulder injury that came out of nowhere and surely didnt prevent Pacquiao from unleashing meaningless power punches on Floyds shoulders and gloves when he was against the ropes. Whats it gonna be next year when they get a rematch? Pacquiao didnt get his favorite bowl of cereal the morning of the fight? :roll:

What excuses:facepalm These are all true. :rockon: Pac was a crude brawler who took a lot of punishments early in his career and also took a lot of chances and got hit a lot. Floyd was older and also past his prime but he's more fresher because of his style. And I already said that even before the fight that Floyd will going to win.:rolleyes: Pac only threw like 600 punches from Algieri fight. Prime Pacquaio with a overmatch opponent like that would have thrown 1000 punches and no holds barred.

Yeah the shoulder injury did not also prevent Floyd from throwing 300 jabs on Castillo.:confusedshrug:

[catch24]

It would have been the same as now. Floyd wins, and a bunch of excuses from Manny himself, and his fans.

Nothing but meme's of "running", "hugging" and "dancing" despite Manny getting thoroughly outclassed, both with his actions in the ring, and then later with how he handled the loss.

Floyd isn't knocking out that version of Pacquiao. Nobody in that weight division is.

Agree to disagree.


Pac has been in too many wars. He's a damaged goods. The only career defining win for Floyd came with an asterisk and an injured shoulder too,

Yeah. His style lent him a shorter but more exciting prime/career. Dude beat all the boxers Floyd did but more impressively, IMO.

[DonD13]

Floyd should be banned from the sport

[DonD13]

Hard Work
Medication

fixed it for you http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Trinken/smilie_trink_005.gif

[Rooster]

do people really believe he's out for good?

he be back

He usually retire when there's a big threat coming Around :lol but since there's basically none, maybe he will really do it and never look back.:confusedshrug:

[plowking]

Rooster literally in here making an encyclopedia of excuses for Pac, and then having the nerve to say "no excuses" for Floyd. :oldlol:

Dude out here posturing like he ain't a die hard Pac fan. :oldlol:

Your boy got beat. I know it hurts. Floyd's the best ever bro. Get over it.

[Rooster]

Floyd's the best ever bro. Get over it.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Floyd apologist with casual boxing knowledge:oldlol: :roll:

[Rooster]

Would have KO'd him like Marquez did.

Floyd is more precise with his punching than Marquez ever was and would have landed more clean hits on Pac than Marquez ever could. Manny would just keep coming forward and Floyd's hands weren't in as bad shape as he was come the time they actually fought.

:roll: :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Floyd is not an agressive counter puncher like Marquez :no: and he has less power:rolleyes:

Floyd has always had problem with his brittle hands since way way back .:oldlol:

You better aks somebody, you don't have no clue what you talking about

Casual fans:facepalm

[Lebron_23]

Manny first called him out in 2009. I still think Manny was right there with him in their bout, being in their late 30's. Manny didn't have the old power but he looked like the only one who can last 12 with consistency.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Floyd isn't knocking out that version of Pacquiao. Nobody in that weight division is.

Agree to disagree.



Yeah. His style lent him a shorter but more exciting prime/career. Dude beat all the boxers Floyd did but more impressively, IMO.
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[ThePhantomCreep]

Rooster literally in here making an encyclopedia of excuses for Pac, and then having the nerve to say "no excuses" for Floyd. :oldlol:

Dude out here posturing like he ain't a die hard Pac fan. :oldlol:

Your boy got beat. I know it hurts. Floyd's the best ever bro. Get over it.

Yeah, the butthurt is out of control in this thread.

Like him or not, Floyd is far and away the best fighter of his generation and on the very short list of greatest fighters in history. Statistically, no one personifies "hit/don't get hit" better than Mayweather. End of.

[PistonsFan#21]

What excuses:facepalm These are all true. :rockon: Pac was a crude brawler who took a lot of punishments early in his career and also took a lot of chances and got hit a lot. Floyd was older and also past his prime but he's more fresher because of his style. And I already said that even before the fight that Floyd will going to win.:rolleyes: Pac only threw like 600 punches from Algieri fight. Prime Pacquaio with a overmatch opponent like that would have thrown 1000 punches and no holds barred.

Yeah the shoulder injury did not also prevent Floyd from throwing 300 jabs on Castillo.:confusedshrug:

Do you even know what excuses mean? let me help you out:


noun

Pronunciation: /ɪkˈskjuːs/ /ɛkˈskjuːs/

A reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence


Pac has been in too many wars. He's a damaged goods. The only career defining win for Floyd came with an asterisk and an injured shoulder too,

I bolded the excuses in your last post to make it easier for you to see. Notice how Floyd doesnt make excuses for the fights he lost...oh wait...49-0

:lol

[Godzuki]

floyd stans are the sporting worlds version of beiber stans :applause:

[Rooster]

Do you even know what excuses mean? let me help you out:





I bolded the excuses in your last post to make it easier for you to see. Notice how Floyd doesnt make excuses for the fights he lost...oh wait...49-0

:lol

Yup he only makes excuses to duck the fight:oldlol:

Excuses he gave not to fight the scary Margarito

-Who' Margarito
-He doesnt bring anything to the table (even though Arum offered floyd 8mil)
-I'll fight u down the line when its bigger (retired twice to avoid him)
-Im not fighting Margarito to prove who to the boxing fans who the best is
-He doesnt deserve to be in the ring with me
-Margarito has many losses ( then fought Baldomir who has 9 losses)
-I pointed to him and nobody even knew who he was
- I'm retired

Excuses he gave to not fight the beastly fresh Cotto

-Who's Miguel Cotto
-Cotto's too green
- Cotto lived in Puerto Rico
-He doesnt bring anything to the table
-Im not impressed with him
-His HBO ratings against Gomez were low
-Cotto needs to become a CEO before i consider fighting him
-Cotto needs to establish his own fanbase (whatever the hell that means)
-Cotto needs to be on the level of a Floyd Mayweather before i fight him
-Im retired
-Im focusing on being a promoter right now
-I have nothing else to prove in the sport, i've done what i had to do
-He know's that i'll beat him
-He wont get past Mosley
-He wont get past Judah
-Fan: "When will u fight Cotto". Floyd: "next question"

Floyd excuses on not fighting the Pac monster

- Health comes first:oldlol:
- I'm a rich coward :oldlol:
- He's on PED:oldlol:
- Take the blood test:oldlol:
- 40 million take it or leave it
- I'm on vacation
- I'm retired
- leave Arum and fight under my promotions
- no negotiations

[Rooster]

Yeah, the butthurt is out of control in this thread.

Like him or not, Floyd is far and away the best fighter of his generation and on the very short list of greatest fighters in history Statistically, no one personifies "hit/don't get hit" better than Mayweather. End of.

:yaohappy:

Statistically 0 career defining win:no:
Statistically 0 wins against prime HOFs:oldlol:

[PistonsFan#21]

Yup he only makes excuses to duck the fight:oldlol:

Excuses he gave not to fight the scary Margarito

-Who' Margarito
-He doesnt bring anything to the table (even though Arum offered floyd 8mil)
-I'll fight u down the line when its bigger (retired twice to avoid him)
-Im not fighting Margarito to prove who to the boxing fans who the best is
-He doesnt deserve to be in the ring with me
-Margarito has many losses ( then fought Baldomir who has 9 losses)
-I pointed to him and nobody even knew who he was
- I'm retired

Excuses he gave to not fight the beastly fresh Cotto

-Who's Miguel Cotto
-Cotto's too green
- Cotto lived in Puerto Rico
-He doesnt bring anything to the table
-Im not impressed with him
-His HBO ratings against Gomez were low
-Cotto needs to become a CEO before i consider fighting him
-Cotto needs to establish his own fanbase (whatever the hell that means)
-Cotto needs to be on the level of a Floyd Mayweather before i fight him
-Im retired
-Im focusing on being a promoter right now
-I have nothing else to prove in the sport, i've done what i had to do
-He know's that i'll beat him
-He wont get past Mosley
-He wont get past Judah
-Fan: "When will u fight Cotto". Floyd: "next question"

Floyd excuses on not fighting the Pac monster

- Health comes first:oldlol:
- I'm a rich coward :oldlol:
- He's on PED:oldlol:
- Take the blood test:oldlol:
- 40 million take it or leave it
- I'm on vacation
- I'm retired
- leave Arum and fight under my promotions
- no negotiations

Still no need to make any excuses for his losses though :confusedshrug:

So people like you will make excuses on why he won instead :oldlol:

Too big for Marquez
Not too big for Pacquiao but Pacquiao was too old (Floyd is 2 years older)
Canelo was too young (not too young for Cotto)
Cotto is past his prime (not past his prime and really dangerous opponent for Canelo)
De La Hoya wasnt the same fighter (but a great challenege for Pacquiao when he fought him after and he was dehydrated down to 147lbs)
Mosley is over the hill (but he wasnt over the hill when he just KOd Margarito the year before and was a good matchup for Manny 2 years later)

Keep on bringing the excuses though thats the only mental victory you guys got. I feel sad for you :lol

[Rooster]

Still no need to make any excuses for his losses though :confusedshrug:

So people like you will make excuses on why he won instead :oldlol:

Too big for Marquez
Not too big for Pacquiao but Pacquiao was too old (Floyd is 2 years older)
Canelo was too young (not too young for Cotto)
Cotto is past his prime (not past his prime and really dangerous opponent for Canelo)
De La Hoya wasnt the same fighter (but a great challenege for Pacquiao when he fought him after and he was dehydrated down to 147lbs)
Mosley is over the hill (but he wasnt over the hill when he just KOd Margarito the year before and was a good matchup for Manny 2 years later)

Keep on bringing the excuses though thats the only mental victory you guys got. I feel sad for you :lol

This is what Floyd great, ATG.:bowdown: Beating a lot of still good fighters (great names) and dominated them:applause: But lettuce be real here, he did beat them when they were not in their prime, still good but past it. And don't tell me thats not on Floyd. Floyd took few risks. :no: The end justified the means. :confusedshrug:

[SCREWstonRockets]

Would have KO'd him like Marquez did.

Floyd is more precise with his punching than Marquez ever was and would have landed more clean hits on Pac than Marquez ever could. Manny would just keep coming forward and Floyd's hands weren't in as bad shape as he was come the time they actually fought.

nah, floyd was never going to KO Manny. there is a reason he fought so cautious against pacman and much more aggressive against berto. you dont give punchers like pacman a chance to tee off. floyd and marquez are different type of counter punchers. Juan was willing to get knocked out, to get the KO. Which is exactly what happened. Took him 4 tries but he finished him.

floyd and manny got in the ring, and both realized the other is for real. they both fought very cautious and that worked in floyd's favor because it turned into more of a chess match than a war.

[hateraid]

Curious, what are the PPV numbers of Manny's last 5 fights vs Floyd's last 5 fights before they faced off?
Too lazy to look up.