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BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:16 PM
From the EU observer

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The annual budget of organised crime in Italy is bigger than that of the EU, with most of the money spent outside Italy, the country's foreign ministry says.

BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:18 PM
Crime does pay.

Lebron23
09-21-2015, 11:22 PM
They sure aren't making some Pizzas.

Nick Young
09-21-2015, 11:26 PM
Looks like the EU is going to go after the mob to seize their assets and use it to fund all their retarded social programs.

Let's hope the Italian mafia wins.

BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:28 PM
They sure aren't making some Pizzas.

Lol, these guys make triple the revenue of the Mexican cartels...yet those guys get all the attention and scrutiny.

Add the fact, they've invented all the vicous killing and torture methods used by the Mexican cartels these days.

BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:35 PM
Looks like the EU is going to go after the mob to seize their assets and use it to fund all their retarded social programs.

Let's hope the Italian mafia wins.

Don't think its possible, these guys have infiltrated the economy to an extent, govt doesn't know who's money is who's.

The most govt can do is catch the mafia leaders...but that hasn't stopped the growth...

DonDadda59
09-21-2015, 11:37 PM
Lol, these guys make triple the revenue of the Mexican cartels...yet those guys get all the attention and scrutiny.

Add the fact, they've invented all the vicous killing and torture methods used by the Mexican cartels these days.

You mean in the American media? Of course they would get more attention and scrutiny as they are our neighbors and their actions directly affect American lives.

The 'Ndrangheta controls virtually all of the drug trade in Western Europe and they do business with the Mexican cartels. They're actually doing business now with the NY families that used to solely collaborate with the Sicilian mafia. They used to be a rural after thought, but after getting into the drug business and expanding their operations, they're the #1 crime syndicate in the world in terms of revenue generated. There was a bust in Manhattan last year where they seized like $12 million of drugs being transported into the country by the Gambinos and Bonnanos in tomato soup cans.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/raids-in-us-italy-target-new-mafia-drug-trafficking-route-linking-new-yorks-gambino-family-to-ndrangheta-crime-syndicate/

A few months ago, the feds busted another one of their drug importing operations an associate of the Genoveses was running like 2 miles from where I live. They seized 55 kilos of cocaine worth $2 million that was shipped from Costa Rica:

http://iajournal.com/ndrangheta-in-new-york-cocaine/

They're trying to go international with their operations.

BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:41 PM
I was reading about this some days ago...and the share between the Mafia was something like.


-Ndragheta : 40%
-Camorra : 30%
-Cosa Nostra: 22%

Its still a miracle Cosa Nostra has survived the ferocious assault by the govt and is actually thriving again.

Coach Eddie
09-21-2015, 11:44 PM
That is ridiculous.

DonDadda59
09-21-2015, 11:47 PM
I was reading about this some days ago...and the share between the Mafia was something like.


-Ndragheta : 40%
-Camorra : 30%
-Cosa Nostra: 22%

Its still a miracle Cosa Nostra has survived the ferocious assault by the govt and is actually thriving again.

Yup, the 'Ndrangheta benefited from the Italian government going all out on Cosa Nostra. Gave them room to operate and expand while LCN was under seige following dumb ass bosses like your hero Riina who targeted government officials for assassination. And they seem to be more insulated because they differ from the Sicilians in that they only allow blood relatives to become members of clans. Less likely that a person will snitch on a family member than they would a friend or casual acquaintance.

And it looks like the NY families are quietly negotiating smuggling routes from Queens to Costa Rica to Italy. The Mexican cartels are involved too. It's one big happy, international crime family.

BlakFrankWhite
09-21-2015, 11:51 PM
You mean in the American media? Of course they would get more attention and scrutiny as they are our neighbors and their actions directly affect American lives.

The 'Ndrangheta controls virtually all of the drug trade in Western Europe and they do business with the Mexican cartels. They're actually doing business now with the NY families that used to solely collaborate with the Sicilian mafia. They used to be a rural after thought, but after getting into the drug business and expanding their operations, they're the #1 crime syndicate in the world in terms of revenue generated. There was a bust in Manhattan last year where they seized like $12 million of drugs being transported into the country by the Gambinos and Bonnanos in tomato soup cans.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/raids-in-us-italy-target-new-mafia-drug-trafficking-route-linking-new-yorks-gambino-family-to-ndrangheta-crime-syndicate/

A few months ago, the feds busted another one of their drug importing operations an associate of the Genoveses was running like 2 miles from where I live. They seized 55 kilos of cocaine worth $2 million that was shipped from Costa Rica:

http://iajournal.com/ndrangheta-in-new-york-cocaine/

They're trying to go international with their operations.

Ndragheta has taken the top spot..for 3 reasons.

1. Cosa Nostra picked a direct confrontation with the govt...killing judges, policemen and planting bombs etc....invoking a huge counter attack by the govt which led to the arrests of the top leaders Riina, Brusca, Bagarella etc

2. In the 1980s..with hundreds of Mafiosi becoming informants...Cosa Nostra has really gone underground...inducting far fewer members...while Ndragheta rule is simple, make a buck and they'll let you in.

3. The structure of Cosa Nostra is such that arrest the leader...and you cut of the organisation...while in Ndragheta the structure is much more horizontal...an arrest wouldn't do much damage.

The Albanian Mob has rescued Cosa Nostra...by taking all their blue collar jobs for a commision...Cosa Nostra makes money while doing noting...so its arrests rate has gone down....its said "Boss of Bosses" Provenzano was so greatful...he ordered a district office of Cosa Nostra to be bullt in Albania.

Anyways, Cosa Nostra is always looked as the 'big brother' of the crime world...and any conflict is between different international clans is mediated by them.

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 12:01 AM
Yup, the 'Ndrangheta benefited from the Italian government going all out on Cosa Nostra. Gave them room to operate and expand while LCN was under seige following dumb ass bosses like your hero Riina who targeted government officials for assassination. And they seem to be more insulated because they differ from the Sicilians in that they only allow blood relatives to become members of clans. Less likely that a person will snitch on a family member than they would a friend or casual acquaintance.

And it looks like the NY families are quietly negotiating smuggling routes from Queens to Costa Rica to Italy. The Mexican cartels are involved too. It's one big happy, international crime family.

Brah, Riina is GOAT.....better than Gambino, Accardo or any other mafia leader.

List me how many men have been supreme leaders of such a huge organisation?

I'll tell you, no one!

DonDadda59
09-22-2015, 12:07 AM
Brah, Riina is GOAT.....better than Gambino, Accardo or any other mafia leader.

List me how many men have been supreme leaders of such a huge organisation?

I'll tell you, no one!

The man is an idiot who personally led to the near downfall of Cosa Nostra. He's the reason they went from undisputed kings to 3rd string in their own country. In Boss School 101, the first thing they tell you is you don't kill cops, politicians, judges, etc. And what does this idiot do?

He's going to die in jail while Carlo Gambino died peacefully in his own bed.

Now you tell me who had the better criminal career. :lol

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 12:20 AM
The man is an idiot who personally led to the near downfall of Cosa Nostra. He's the reason they went from undisputed kings to 3rd string in their own country. In Boss School 101, the first thing they tell you is you don't kill cops, politicians, judges, etc. And what does this idiot do?

He's going to die in jail while Carlo Gambino died peacefully in his own bed.

Now you tell me who had the better criminal career. :lol

The one who made more money, and had more power :confusedshrug:

Oh yeah, during the second mafia war,Riina wiped out the Inzerillo family who were close cousins of Carlo.

And the Gambino"s couldn't do shit about it, other than beg Riina for mercy :lol

DonDadda59
09-22-2015, 12:29 AM
The one who made more money, and had more power :confusedshrug:

Oh yeah, during the second mafia war,Riina wiped out the Inzerillo family who were close cousins of Carlo.

And the Gambino"s couldn't do shit about it, other than ask Riina for mercy :lol

Riina spent the majority of his reign in rat holes while on the run from the law. Then he was imprisoned in 1993 and had all his basic prison rights revoked (Article 41-bis).

He's still there in 2015 as I type this :yaohappy:

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 12:39 AM
Riina spent the majority of his reign in rat holes while on the run from the law. Then he was imprisoned in 1993 and had all his basic prison rights revoked (Article 41-bis).

He's still there in 2015 as I type this :yaohappy:

He was an old shit at time of arrest and had reigned as 'boss of bosses' for 15 years......so its not like his prime years were taken from him.

Rat holes? Police said hed been living all this time in his palace at the centre of Palermo.

Anyways, Provenzano was even more secretive (many mafiosi thought he was dead) and careful than Don Carlo and even he got caught....is gonna die n prison

Don Carlo woulve been swept away if RICO existed in his time....action against mafia in Italy and US started in the mid 80s.

DonDadda59
09-22-2015, 12:51 AM
Rat holes? Police said hed been living all this time in his palace at the centre of Palermo.

Anyways, Provenzano was even more secretive (many mafiosi thought he was dead) and careful than Don Carlo and even he got caught....is gonna die n prison

Don Carlo woulve been swept away if RICO existed in his time....action against mafia in Italy and US started in the mid 80s.

Riina was just an Italian Bin Laden- a terrorist who blew up tourist sites, killed public officials and innocent people, and spent all his time hiding until he was arrested. 23 years later, he's still in jail.

RICO or no RICO, Don Carlo was the unofficial boss of bosses and controlled an empire that stretched from California to NY. He didn't spend 1 minute behind bars and died peacefully in his sleep.

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 12:55 AM
Riina was just an Italian Bin Laden- a terrorist who blew up tourist sites, killed public officials and innocent people, and spent all his time hiding until he was arrested. 23 years later, he's still in jail.

RICO or no RICO, Don Carlo was the unofficial boss of bosses and controlled an empire that stretched from California to NY. He didn't spend 1 minute behind bars and died peacefully in his sleep.

I edited that post a bit
"Riina was an old shit at time of arrest and had reigned as 'boss of bosses' for 15 years......so its not like his prime years were taken from him."

And Don Carlo did actually spend 5 days in a prison in the 1930s, but yeah I get your point.

BoutPractice
09-22-2015, 12:47 PM
One is a secretive organization designed to arbitrate disputes between criminals whose main activities consist of racketeering, extortion, loan sharking, and various kinds of fraud. It has made enormous quantities of euros, and stolen a considerable amount from a dysfunctional Mediterranean country.

The other, of course, is the Sicilian Mafia.

StephHamann
09-22-2015, 12:55 PM
There is an italian restaurant in my hood that is controlled by the Mafia.

They are meeting there every friday. The whole street is full of luxury cars every friday.

Nicest people in the neighbourhood, and the pizza is delicious. :applause:

Mafia>EU

UK2K
09-22-2015, 12:57 PM
What are they making their money off of?

Anyone know?

StephHamann
09-22-2015, 12:58 PM
What are they making their money off of?

Anyone know?

Mostly legal they invested their money in legal business like restaurants bars and hotels.

Most hotels and restaurants in Playa de Palma (Mallorca) are controlled by the Mafia for example.

fiddy
09-22-2015, 01:16 PM
wheres the sauce, retarded OP

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 01:18 PM
What are they making their money off of?

Anyone know?

Drug trafficking, arms trafficking. Human trafficking, extortion, loan sharking, infiltration of public treasury for e.g healthcare systems, construction contracts.

The recession in Italy was like a dream come true for the Mafia....all those troubled businesses got loans on insane interest rates..which they couldn't repay...hence giving up their businesses,homes, bank accounts to the mafia...who used it to launder billions!

BlakFrankWhite
09-22-2015, 01:22 PM
wheres the sauce, retarded OP

https://euobserver.com/justice/123624

Styles p
09-22-2015, 02:41 PM
Lol, these guys make triple the revenue of the Mexican cartels...yet those guys get all the attention and scrutiny.

And they wouldn't want it any other way.