BREAKING: Melo might be traded to Hawks

[Richesly]

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/9/20/9362573/nba-trade-rumor-carmelo-anthony-to-the-atlanta-hawks-for-paul-millsap

Rumour is that Carmelo Anthony may be traded for Paul Millsap. It makes sense position wise, because then it could be Teague-KK-Melo-Horford-Splitter.

If this happens, do the Hawks improve?

[dazzer87]

Hawks 65 wins knock out in the 2nd rd

[The Valley]

I don't always go on basketball news and rumors websites, but when I do, I prefer peachtreehoops.com

[imdaman99]

Man what the hell? Give up draft picks, preferably someone else's lottery pick(s) and we can talk.

[Richesly]

Man what the hell? Give up draft picks, preferably someone else's lottery pick(s) and we can talk.

It'd probably have a 2nd round and maybe protected 1st, but I could see it as a way to clear salary for the Knicks and for Hawks to go championship or bust.

Milsap may improve the Knicks too, not just by himself, but he could fit the triangle very well. He's like a short Pau Gasol but just with a 3 pointer.

[SOD 21]

It is a smart move for New York to trade Carmelo Anthony and fully commit to the rebuilding process.

[Akrazotile]

I don't always go on basketball news and rumors websites, but when I do, I prefer peachtreehoops.com



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[DaOldLion]

this would improve the east

so of course it won't happen

[ZeN]

I don't always go on basketball news and rumors websites, but when I do, I prefer peachtreehoops.com

:applause:

[Lebron23]

People compared him to Dominique Wilkins. And now he's playing for Wilkins former team.

[MellowYellow]

Melo no trade clause, Milsap ineligible to be traded till next year. It is a possibility if Knicks look bad at the trade deadline. But for that to happen Melo would probably be injured and Hawks wouldn't trade for an injured player.

[Blue&Orange]

Rumour is that Carmelo Anthony may be traded for Paul Millsap. It makes sense position wise, because then it could be Teague-KK-Melo-Horford-Splitter.

not even point out it makes no sense for the Knicks position wise, just gonna say, keep dreaming pal. Melo for Millsap lol

[Richesly]

not even point out it makes no sense for the Knicks position wise, just gonna say, keep dreaming pal. Melo for Millsap lol


How does it not make sense? Both can play the 3 and 4. However, Hawks wouldn't want Millsap on the bench so we have to start Horford at 5. Do some research pal. Thing is we don't play Sap at the 3 because our 3 is usually THE 3nD guy, and millsap's game revolves around the 9-15 feet out.

[Akrazotile]

not even point out it makes no sense for the Knicks position wise, just gonna say, keep dreaming pal. Melo for Millsap lol


LOL is right


Millsap >> Melo

[outbreak]

millsap just resigned didn't he? He can't be traded for like 6 months plus after resigning.

[bobopenguin]

i thought the rumor is millsap + teague + picks for melo.

[G-train]

millsap just resigned didn't he? He can't be traded for like 6 months plus after resigning.

3 months I believe

[poido123]

I don't always go on basketball news and rumors websites, but when I do, I prefer peachtreehoops.com



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Quality post

[Spurs m8]

Melo is such a lazy ****ing player these days.

Over rated AF

Would not want, will never get you close to a ring.

Cheers

[KNOW1EDGE]

How does it not make sense? Both can play the 3 and 4. However, Hawks wouldn't want Millsap on the bench so we have to start Horford at 5. Do some research pal. Thing is we don't play Sap at the 3 because our 3 is usually THE 3nD guy, and millsap's game revolves around the 9-15 feet out.

Paul Millsap at the 3. Lmfao Jesus Christ

[eeeeeebro]

melo gets you 25 a game and his strength is following up his own miss with an offensive rebound he fits in so well on team usa and in all star games cause he is able to play his role so perfectly it seems like he is not there

[imdaman99]

Melo is such a lazy ****ing player these days.

Over rated AF

Would not want, will never get you close to a ring.

Cheers
And Kawhi as the 1st option will? With the cast of bums the Knicks had the last 2 years? Good one :lol

[Clifton]

If this happens, do the Hawks improve?
I can't believe we're asking this question, but it needs to be asked.

I think they improve, because their success is built not just on a magical combination of players (like the Nets in the early 2000s), but also on their coach. That coach will know how to use Melo and they will be dangerous.

There was a time a couple years ago when the Knicks had the most balanced and deadly offensive attack in the league. They looked just like the Hawks do now: threes bombing from everywhere, unselfish play, ball movement. They were able to do this without much of a coach. Then Sheed got hurt and Jason Kidd fell off and they lost it and started chucking. But that success tells me that Melo can adapt to a great team offense.

[gcvbcat]

irrelevant.

[Naero]

The one gaping void in the Hawks' solidity as a championship-contender is a superstar who can be the definitive team-leader and get them over the hump when adversity knocks on the door; Carmelo Anthony does not satisfy that role, I am afraid.

The very bread and butter the Hawks' success last season—which they deviated away from in the playoffs and engendered underachievement in that realm because of it—was their ball movement. 'Melo, who has a career-average 3.45 assist-to-missed-shot ratio, is easily the most ball-stopping "superstar" (using it liberally) in the modern era.

While they will need a definitive go-to shot-taker to force other teams to make adjustments, the man who averages 41.7% field-goal percentage in his playoffs career isn't going to be dependable enough in that regard to riffle the defensive game plans of opponents; if anything, he'll be the one taking the exact low-percentage shots that the defense wants.

Unless you Hawks prefer to watch flashiness over efficience, you'd better hope your FO passes up on 'Melo. He may slightly bolster up your team's offense at stretches during the regular season, but he is a defensive liability; and come playoffs time—when defenses zero in on superstars—his inability to play-make for his teammates will make his shooting woes irredeemable—or even fixable for that matter.

[Blue&Orange]

How does it not make sense? Both can play the 3 and 4. However, Hawks wouldn't want Millsap on the bench so we have to start Horford at 5. Do some research pal. Thing is we don't play Sap at the 3 because our 3 is usually THE 3nD guy, and millsap's game revolves around the 9-15 feet out.
You are a really smart guy, i say it doesn't make sense for the Knicks and you keep talking about the hawks. Guess what Knicks don't give a shit about what the Hawks need. If Millsap can play the 3 than play him at the 3 why do you need Melo? lol

do some research says this dumb mofo.

[Darius]

Hawks success was based on moving the ball.

Melo doesn't move the ball.

I'd be interested to see this trade unfold for the Hawks because it could definitively prove the NBA has really changed.

[miles berg]

I would want more for a guy like Paul Millsap than just Carmelo and his bloated contract.

Bad trade for Hawks.

[Derka]

No, they don't get better. Part of the beauty of the Hawks offense last season was the way they moved the ball. You lose that with Melo at the 3 and the dude doesn't even pretend to try on defense anymore. Horrible trade.

Also, I'll join other in WTFing at Paul Milsap at the 3 :lol

[nathanjizzle]

derrick rose for melo.

[r15mohd]

No, they don't get better. Part of the beauty of the Hawks offense last season was the way they moved the ball. You lose that with Melo at the 3 and the dude doesn't even pretend to try on defense anymore. Horrible trade.

Also, I'll join other in WTFing at Paul Milsap at the 3 :lol

or on offense at times :lol :lol :lol

https://damitaro.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/carmeloonground.jpg

[West-Side]

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/9/20/9362573/nba-trade-rumor-carmelo-anthony-to-the-atlanta-hawks-for-paul-millsap

Rumour is that Carmelo Anthony may be traded for Paul Millsap. It makes sense position wise, because then it could be Teague-KK-Melo-Horford-Splitter.

If this happens, do the Hawks improve?

They become a top 5 team, IMO.
Very well rounded team.

[Levity]

Hawks success was based on moving the ball.

Melo doesn't move the ball.

I'd be interested to see this trade unfold for the Hawks because it could definitively prove the NBA has really changed.

i was hoping someone would mention this. ATL's offense would look completely different if melo joined the squad and continued to play ball the way he has the past decade. However, if he was willing to use his strengths in Bud's offense, it may look like something special

and on NY's side, it somewhat hinders the development for zinger. hes not a 5. at least not for a couple of seasons. he's a 4, which is millsaps primary position. Millsap just re-signed, so hes going to expect to be on the floor a majority of the game.

Stil, interesting nonetheless.

[MellowYellow]

Hawks success was based on moving the ball.

Melo doesn't move the ball.

I'd be interested to see this trade unfold for the Hawks because it could definitively prove the NBA has really changed.

Not sure where you got this from? Melo's assist % is 18 which is higher than any non pg on the Hawks outside of Horford who has an 18.6%

[chips93]

The one gaping void in the Hawks' solidity as a championship-contender is a superstar who can be the definitive team-leader and get them over the hump when adversity knocks on the door; Carmelo Anthony does not satisfy that role, I am afraid.

have you been in an nba lockerroom? how are you qualified to talk on player's leadership qualities?

[QUOTE]The very bread and butter the Hawks' success last season

[chips93]

derrick rose for melo.

sad to see your rose stanning come to an end

:(

[hawksdogsbraves]

[QUOTE=Naero]The one gaping void in the Hawks' solidity as a championship-contender is a superstar who can be the definitive team-leader and get them over the hump when adversity knocks on the door; Carmelo Anthony does not satisfy that role, I am afraid.

The very bread and butter the Hawks' success last season

[Thorpesaurous]

Hypothetically speaking, this would cause a huge problem with perimeter defense on the Hawks. Playing Korver and Melo together would be a sieve defensively as a SG and SF (presumably next to Horford and Splitter). Even at SF and PF with Horford, who's a really good defender, would cause a lot of problems defensively.

Offensively, either lineup would provide a unique amount of spacing, which we know The Hawks consider vital. Horford is a good shooter at PF, he's even better as a Center, and while Melo isn't statistically great, he's an enormous threat that needs to be accounted for. His tendency to stop the ball becomes less of a factor with that much shooting around him, and with a few guys who are constants off the ball, like Korver who moves all the time. But that spacing and shooting has to be elite to cover for the other issues of size, rebounding, defense, etc., and putting Melo at PF and filling in the SG spot with someone like Sefolosha may not help enough on the defensive end to make up for warping the lineup from elite spacing to just good.




Millsap would be a great triangle fit. At PF the ability to put him on the strong side of the triangle means both bigs would be on the same side, which really helps soften the weakside help against it, and lets you keep real floor spacers over there as well. He can play inside enough if you defend him small. He's a really smart cutter, which is a huge underrated asset in that system in particular. And he's made himself a good shooter, good enough to stretch the defense from that strong side post. And he'd be good on the weekside for almost all the same reasons. Especially if an opponent wanted to try to hide a SF on him defensively.

[kshutts1]

The trade is so bad from the Knicks perspective that I don't know why anyone even considers this.

[lil jahlil]

Knicks win this trade.

[lil jahlil]

But what makes you think Melo wouldn't work in our system? The Spurs have had superstars buy in and thrive. Hell, they're counting on Aldridge doing just that this season. Aldridge, who's not known as a great defender and who has a 43% career shooting in the playoffs.

He may not be elite, but he is a good defender. His offensive efficiency does need to improve though.

[Coach Eddie]

Noooooo!!!!

[SwishSquared]

If the Hawks/Knicks pull the trigger, would Melo split equal time at the F spots or play primarily as a SF?

Horford, though he can play both PF and C, brings the type of shooting/passing/screen-setting/mobility that make him an amazing offensive C. Lots of that translates to when he's a PF, but having Korver at SG and Melo/Horford at PF/C gives incredible floor-spacing. The defensive problems that presents are another issue completely, though. Korver's a solid team defender, but Melo's effort leaves a lot to be desire don that end imo. At least ATL has added frontcourt size in Splitter and Tavares to provide more of an interior presence.

Also from the Knicks' perspective- what else do they get in return for Melo? Millsap is a really good player, but he'd presumably cut into Zinger's development time. If it's a basic swap, this also shows Phil really botched rejecting any S&T from the Bulls in 2014. I'd imagine Knicks would at least want Schroeder, too, right?

I do think if the Hawks want to become more of a playoff threat, they need somebody on Melo's level as a scorer. I think they'd be at best second in the EC with Melo, but he'd help alleviate some of their dry spells against locked-in defenses in May.

[morbius]

No point for Knicks to keep Melo, by the time that team develops into something good, Melo will be old dead weight on an albatross contract.

But I do believe they can sell him better than just swap for Milsap. No offence to Milsap, I really like him.

[Solidape]

I don't always go on basketball news and rumors websites, but when I do, I prefer peachtreehoops.com

Lol :roll: