8 seasons in and Love still hasn't learned how to Post Up

[dubeta]

:facepalm



Did you think he would go this long without improving his game when he was drafted back in 2008?

[ralph_i_el]

Love has been at the top of the league in post efficiency multiple times. He has a great post game. Shut the **** up.

[dubeta]

Prove it, what was his post percentages last year?

[ralph_i_el]

Prove it, what was his post percentages last year?

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?dir=1&sort=PPP&CF=Poss*GE*100&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

post stats sorted for players with 100+ possessions.

Love is 6th in the league in Points Per Possession, and 3nd among big men. His volume wasn't that high compared to his previous seasons, because he posts up in the same spot Bron does. His stats are bouyed because of his extremely low turnover% from the post.

http://i.giphy.com/pnJC93AEI9Ohy.gif

[dubeta]

So he barely posts up??

Thanks for telling us

[ralph_i_el]

So he barely posts up??

Thanks for telling us


He had the 16th most post ups last season. The only person with better efficiency AND volume is Jonas Valanciunus

He would have had more if he wasn't spacing the floor for LeBron all season :rolleyes: He increased the % of his shots that came from 3 by about the same amount as he decreased his shots close to the rim. He was a high volume post player the few seasons before coming to the Cavs.

You are wrong.

[Sakkreth]

While he's not Dmo in post ups he's still decent. Thing is cavs don't really need him to do it. They need him to rebound and shoot to space the floor.

[ralph_i_el]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4lEqq7CtKc

This video is 2 years old. If it was a person, it would already be smarter than Dubeta

[IllegalD]

Typical b*tchass LeBron Stanley, severely underrating LeBron's help in order to prop up their boy.

Kevin Loves postgame >>>>>>>>> Horrace Grant or Dennis Rodman's postgames (which were virtually non existent).

[ralph_i_el]

Typical b*tchass LeBron Stanley, severely underrating LeBron's help in order to prop up their boy.

Kevin Loves postgame >>>>>>>>> Horrace Grant or Dennis Rodman's postgames (which were virtually non existent).

LeBron Stanlies like
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wi8ryd3Cu5g/maxresdefault.jpg


Where you at Dubeta? Explain how he has a bad post game?

[dubeta]

He had the 16th most post ups last season. The only person with better efficiency AND volume is Jonas Valanciunus


So you just admitted that Love has a worse post game than Valanciunus who's not even a top 20 big man in the league? :roll:


You're making my point for me lmao

[dh144498]

1.5 years on ISH, and OP is still a fakkit

[dh144498]

1.5 years on ISH, and OP is still a fakkit

get ethered, little boy.


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[ralph_i_el]

So you just admitted that Love has a worse post game than Valanciunus who's not even a top 20 big man in the league? :roll:


You're making my point for me lmao

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/afp.gif

he doesn't have to be a top-20 big man (which he will be btw) to have a top post game.

Of the top-15 players in terms of touches, Valanciunas has the highest efficiency. Dwight (by far) has the lowest.

Love posted up about as much as Duncan and Dirk last season, and slightly more then DMO. If he wasn't playing with Bron, he would have been top-10 in possessions and top-5 in efficiency for big men.

Love and Dirk were the only 2 good (and frequent) 3 point shooters in the top of the post-up frequency list.

You've been rekt. Gtfo. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125773/4337874-6236833361-you-l.gif


Btw, Valanciunas took half his shots at the rim last season and hit on 67% of them. He had a 62 TS%. 121 ORTG. Shot almost 40% from midrange. 12 Rbd/36

He'll be an all-star soon.

[KembaWalker]

dubeta coming off stupid af in this thread :roll: :bowdown:

[ralph_i_el]

dubeta coming off stupid af in every thread :roll: :bowdown:

ftfy

[KembaWalker]

ftfy

you own this thread sir, fix whatever you feel necessary :bowdown:

[ralph_i_el]

you own this thread sir, fix whatever you feel necessary :bowdown:
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[HOoopCityJones]

Kill yourself JT and this tired ass alt.

[dubeta]

Then why did Love score less than 10 total post up points in the playoffs, when the Cavs went all the way to the Finals??


10 post up points in an entire Finals run??



:facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

My goodness, OP is getting wrecked.

This is embarrassing.

[f0und]

Then why did Love score less than 10 total post up points in the playoffs, when the Cavs went all the way to the Finals??


10 post up points in an entire Finals run??



:facepalm

are you so blinded by brons nuts that you didnt realize love only played 3 playoff games?

[Mr. Jabbar]

dubeta this needs to stop, as a lebron family brother i want to help you, but you need to see the truth, our idol is surrounded by the leagues best talent and still manages to choke his balding self every damn year :(

#kang

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

One of the best postup players in the league easily. Shame he cant do more with Bran occupying all the space inside relegating Love to a spotup shooter and Bran needs his elite shooters out there

Heres Love hitting one of his many clutch go ahead postup moves against Brans exteam:applause: :applause:

http://i.imgur.com/hBQw2tU.gif

other moves:applause:

http://i.imgur.com/hEVrq2q.gif

http://i.imgur.com/8fD8RQO.gif

http://i.imgur.com/Wp22zdN.gif

http://i.imgur.com/kJCgHZb.gif

http://i.imgur.com/bs5cBKh.gif

[Prime_Shaq]

Nice highlights :applause: Those moves were totally absent last season though, Cavs only used him as a spot up shooter :lol

[dubeta]

Nice highlights :applause: Those moves were totally absent last season though, Cavs only used him as a spot up shooter :lol

blame coach blatt

[AnaheimLakers24]

LeStanlies

[ralph_i_el]

People think Kevin Love is some unathletic white shooter, but he really has a lot of game as a scorer. Really skilled, great at making high degree-of-difficulty shots. Probably the best floater of any big man in the league. He's like a more athletic Luis Scola in the post. He's got crazy strong lower body too. He has a history of making clutch shots in Minny too. He's a great off-ball player, but when he can get his own shot too. He's so valuable as a floor spacer that it takes him away from the paint, where he's an elite offensive rebounder and post player. One of my favorite players.

[sportjames23]

dubeta coming off stupid af in this thread :roll: :bowdown:


Every thread, bruh. Every thread.

[Asiantastic]

Then why did Love score less than 10 total post up points in the playoffs, when the Cavs went all the way to the Finals??


10 post up points in an entire Finals run??



:facepalm

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lol you're such a ***

[MP.Trey]

If Love is a bad post up player than Kyrie can't shoot and LeBron doesn't know how to play basketball.

[buddha]

dubeta coming off stupid af in this thread :roll: :bowdown:

nope, the reason love has good efficiency stats is because he gets fouled so much in the post. his best post move is turning into the defender and flailing his arms... for some reason the refs call it a foul. if you watch him you know his post game is shit, this is one of those times the stats mislead you, like when stats say LeBron James is not a choker.

[Gileraracer]

Damn, OP got destroyed by nothing but Facts in this one

[lil jahlil]

If anything he has regressed as far as posting up frequency.

[ralph_i_el]

nope, the reason love has good efficiency stats is because he gets fouled so much in the post. his best post move is turning into the defender and flailing his arms... for some reason the refs call it a foul. if you watch him you know his post game is shit, this is one of those times the stats mislead you, like when stats say LeBron James is not a choker.

His foul rate isn't that high on post plays (you can go look at the stats). He shoots a good %, but what sets him apart from other good post players is his low turnover rate. Dwight shoots a high % on post plays, but turns the ball over more than twice as often as Love, which kills his efficiency.

The only frequent post-up players with lower turnover rates than Love are Al Jefferson, LMA, and Dirk.

[CavaliersFTW]

Love has an outstanding post game. :facepalm

[Levity]

dubeta bogarting that retard status all for himself, yet again.

[T_L_P]

He had one of the highest points per possession in the post of anyone last year.

Fail.

[stalkerforlife]

Worst fail thread of all time.

[ShawkFactory]

Worst thread in history? :lol

Literally destroyed on the first post. Foot in mouth for the rest of them.

[SHAQisGOAT]

:biggums:

What to say about LeBron, then?

How is this clown still around though, always posting stupid shit? :facepalm

[iamgine]

Dubeta wins.

People just keep getting trolled. :lol

In many other forums threads like this would have close to 0 replies because most realize it's a trolling attempt.

But that's why we love ISH. :rockon:

[guy]

The season hasn't even started and the excuses for Lebron not winning AGAIN have already started :oldlol:

[dubeta]

He had one of the highest points per possession in the post of anyone last year.



Dwight Howard shot 50% from the 3 point line last season

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html



Would you have called Dwight an elite 3 point shooter last season?

Yes or No? Don't dodge this question.

He made 50% of his attempts last year, better than Steph Curry, Mike Miller etc.



See, it doesnt make sense


You cant just look at percentages, volume matters as well

:facepalm

[ralph_i_el]

Dwight Howard shot 50% from the 3 point line last season

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html



Would you have called Dwight an elite 3 point shooter last season?

Yes or No? Don't dodge this question.

He made 50% of his attempts last year, better than Steph Curry, Mike Miller etc.



See, it doesnt make sense


You cant just look at percentages, volume matters as well

:facepalm

Love had the 18th most post-possessions last year.
Dwight shot 2 3's last season

Love scored 290 points from the post (14th in the league)
Dwight scored 3 points on 3's


And I'll say it again, If Love was playing on a different team, he would be top-10 in frequency and top-5 in efficiency. I wish we had these stats for Love's Minny years. Last season he took ~5 less shots per game from inside the arc than he did in Minny.

The stats we do have say that in Minny, Love took more of his shots from inside 2, more of his shots at the rim, and did so at a decently HIGHER efficiency, compared with what he did alongside Bron and Kyrie last season.


You're like some sort of troll punching-bag. I'm just getting a workout on you before the season starts.

[Dr Seuss]

Dwight Howard shot 50% from the 3 point line last season

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/howardw01.html



Would you have called Dwight an elite 3 point shooter last season?

Yes or No? Don't dodge this question.

He made 50% of his attempts last year, better than Steph Curry, Mike Miller etc.



See, it doesnt make sense


You cant just look at percentages, volume matters as well

:facepalm

Let me explain it in terms you'd understand, dubby

Of the two dudes youve went down on in your life, you only took 1 loud in your mouth. so yes, your percentages look great - 50% - but the volume isnt there to make you a pro

on the other hand, your mom is at a legit 45%+, but her volume is dozens upon dozens of guys. So she of course is much more skilled in her craft, as seen by her high % on multiple attempts

so yes, no one is calling you - or dwight in the scenario you presented - a pro.

[ralph_i_el]

Let me explain it in terms you'd understand, dubby

Of the two dudes youve went down on in your life, you only took 1 loud in your mouth. so yes, your percentages look great - 50% - but the volume isnt there to make you a pro

on the other hand, your mom is at a legit 45%+, but her volume is dozens upon dozens of guys. So she of course is much more skilled in her craft, as seen by her high % on multiple attempts

so yes, no one is calling you - or dwight in the scenario you presented - a pro.

:roll:
http://giant.gfycat.com/KindheartedHelplessHylaeosaurus.gif

[Levity]

:eek:

[iznogood]

I love Kevin Love's post game, but I think his efficiency would go down a bit if he posted more often, now that he lost so much weight. He probably got stronger, but it's so much easier to use the extra weight when you're trying to establish a position and close in with a man on your hip/back.

I think he's also not too comfortable shooting with his left hand, seeing all the fall aways he takes when he turns over his right shoulder.

But still, his jump hook is money.

[dubeta]

I love Kevin Love's post game, but I think his efficiency would go down a bit if he posted more often, now that he lost so much weight. He probably got stronger, but it's so much easier to use the extra weight when you're trying to establish a position and close in with a man on your hip/back.

I think he's also not too comfortable shooting with his left hand, seeing all the fall aways he takes when he turns over his right shoulder.

But still, his jump hook is money.

True, posting up requires a combination of Lower body strength, technique, length, and athleticism


Lower body strength is the only thing I can give Love, but yea he got too slim now to bang with NBA bigs.

[KembaWalker]

Let me explain it in terms you'd understand, dubby

Of the two dudes youve went down on in your life, you only took 1 loud in your mouth. so yes, your percentages look great - 50% - but the volume isnt there to make you a pro

on the other hand, your mom is at a legit 45%+, but her volume is dozens upon dozens of guys. So she of course is much more skilled in her craft, as seen by her high % on multiple attempts

so yes, no one is calling you - or dwight in the scenario you presented - a pro.

Glad this thread was bumped just to read that :roll:

[Asiantastic]

Let me explain it in terms you'd understand, dubby

Of the two dudes youve went down on in your life, you only took 1 loud in your mouth. so yes, your percentages look great - 50% - but the volume isnt there to make you a pro

on the other hand, your mom is at a legit 45%+, but her volume is dozens upon dozens of guys. So she of course is much more skilled in her craft, as seen by her high % on multiple attempts

so yes, no one is calling you - or dwight in the scenario you presented - a pro.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

True, posting up requires a combination of Lower body strength, technique, length, and athleticism


Lower body strength is the only thing I can give Love, but yea he got too slim now to bang with NBA bigs.

Dude gtfo of this thread. You're wrong.