6'3 College Freshman can reach top of backboard

[Cocaine80s]

http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/09/college-basketball-freshman-jump-touch-top-backboard

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
:applause: :applause:
Actual video evidence, unlike some other frauds such as Wilt

[GIF REACTION]

And they say athletes aren't getting better....

[ralph_i_el]

cot dayum

[Cocaine80s]

And they say athletes aren't getting better....
Dude this is what the average college athlete can do these days


Put one of these kids in the 60s and they would probably be considered one of the greatest of all time

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It's just simply the fact that also the talent pool and opportunity is so much more

The superstar in the 60's is now the bench player of today most of the time

The bench players in the 80's are now D leaguers

[warriorfan]

how good of a basketball player is he?

[Marchesk]

Doesn't look right. I'm always suspicious of these touching the top of the backboard videos. I don't think he actually did. His head is maybe a little bit above rim level. Does that mean he has a 9'1" standing reach at 6'3"???

The angle is deceptive.

[buddha]

why doesn't he jump that high during games?

[SugarHill]

Doesn't look right. I'm always suspicious of these touching the top of the backboard videos. I don't think he actually did. His head is maybe a little bit above rim level. Does that mean he has a 9'1" standing reach at 6'3"???

The angle is deceptive.
you just saw it in slowmo fam. if this shit was black/white and from the 60s, you'd eat it up

[dubeta]

But can he beat up a mountain lion ?

[Marchesk]

you just saw it in slowmo fam. if this shit was black/white and from the 60s, you'd eat it up

At least the other videos I've seen of people reaching the top were 6'8 dudes, which is a little bit more believable. Either this guy has the longest arm to body ratio of all-time or that wasn't the top of the backboard.

We need someone professional like Cavs to analyze the video and angle properly.

[Marchesk]

But can he beat up a mountain lion ?

You mean throw. This is how myths are born. Wilt shot putted the lion a then Olympic record 52 feet. But there were not fisticuffs. And it was an escaped African lion from a nearby zoo, not a wild mountain lion.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

They lined up the jump tester tho. How can you argue that?

[Marchesk]

They lined up the jump tester tho. How can you argue that?

How can I argue that they didn't line it up with the top of the backboard, you mean? Because it doesn't look like it from the angle in the video.

[inclinerator]

Doesn't look right. I'm always suspicious of these touching the top of the backboard videos. I don't think he actually did. His head is maybe a little bit above rim level. Does that mean he has a 9'1" standing reach at 6'3"???

The angle is deceptive.
:roll:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

It's line up against the rim. It looks a little shorter than the backboard, but the kid obviously clears the whole thing, so... If he doesn't touch the top of the backboard, he's only a couple inches from it. And since this is 2015, obviously the 6-3 listed height means he's actually 6-0 based on what I've been told here. Impressive nonetheless. amirite?

[Marchesk]

It was impressive. And how good of a player is he? Is he Zach Lavine good?

[inclinerator]

At least the other videos I've seen of people reaching the top were 6'8 dudes, which is a little bit more believable. Either this guy has the longest arm to body ratio of all-time or that wasn't the top of the backboard.

We need someone professional like Cavs to analyze the video and angle properly.


just finished my analysis

it's legit ph Aggot
http://i.imgur.com/7QNM4TM.png

[Marchesk]

just finished my analysis

it's legit ph Aggot
http://i.imgur.com/7QNM4TM.png

LOL, you know that shit isn't grainy and black and white enough to impress me. GTFO.

[LoneyROY7]

Doesn't look right. I'm always suspicious of these touching the top of the backboard videos. I don't think he actually did. His head is maybe a little bit above rim level. Does that mean he has a 9'1" standing reach at 6'3"???

The angle is deceptive.

Athletes now >>>>>>>>>>>> 60s. Deal.

[warriorfan]

just finished my analysis

it's legit ph Aggot
http://i.imgur.com/7QNM4TM.png

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

This is James White....one of the greatest leapers of his size humanity will ever produce:

http://s17.postimg.org/s018dgtfz/2r6yvrq.jpg


Hes 6'8'' in shoes.


Here he is trying to do what this 6'3'' kid supposedly did with ease:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43c6a_james-white-nearly-touches-top-of-g_sport


I'll leave it at this...I dont know wat happened..but it seems fishy that James White cant do it at 6'8'' and that kid can at 6'3''.

I dont doubt its possible. At 6'3'' on a regulation modern backboard?

Ehhhh....

That kid would need what....a 53 inch vertical if he has a better than average standing reach for his size?

That was a 50+ inch vertical there?

I know people can have a 50+ vertical...I just feel like it would appear more....eye popping.

Bad angle maybe...but that didnt look like the highest leap ive ever seen.

Did that look like the greatest leap you ever witnessed....or are we seeing dudes 55 inches up on the regular and not noticing?

Ive seen Gerald Green throat high and not be able to touch the top of the backboard. I hope this blows up so hes asked to do it on an nba or college rim to prove it.

I'll give him all the props in the world if he can...

It just doesnt quite look right you know?

[L.Kizzle]

Earl Manigault was doin this in like 1961.

[TripleA]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/wigginsjump.jpg

This Andrew Wiggins with a 44 vert and 6'8 frame. That means the kid has an at least a 49 inch vertical.

[Marchesk]

If James White couldn't do it, then this kid wasn't doing it either.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Would average 100 points a game in the 60s

[Kblaze8855]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/wigginsjump.jpg

This Andrew Wiggins with a 44 vert and 6'8 frame. That means the kid has an at least a 49 inch vertical.



Unless im off on how that testing works....the kid would need a 54 inch vertical with a non Rondoish wingspan. If hes on some Mr Fantastic/Stretch Armstrong shit...ok...I guess.

[GIF REACTION]

Most good S&C coaches will tell you that you can increase your vert about 30% based on your untrained level of vertical

These long and light black athletes have loads of potential for vert

Not the most important thing for basketball, but if you look at a guy like kelly baggett, who achieved a 44 inch vert... There's actually a lot of potential there

I used to be a former national high jumper in my high school days in aus, i never actually measured my vert but it was probably between 35-40 inches running... I never really trained it specifically though... I reckon I could have probably gotten it up to 43-45, assuming perfect power to weight ratios

[Cocaine80s]

So many people trying to discredit him:facepalm

He did it right before your eyes and you still doubt

[Lebronxrings]

bbbut wilt is a god who could have reached the top of the backboard with his head.

[dubeta]

60's stans would be raving how this guy would be better than LeBron if this vid happened back then

[avonbarksdale]

cavsftw crying

[iamgine]

If he's 6'3 and his head is exactly at rim level, that means his vertical is 44 inches.

It does look like his head clear the rim by quite a bit. I would estimate it at nose level, which adds maybe around 7 inches for a total of 51 inch vertical.

[Marchesk]

Cousy would still wreck 1 on 1.

[swagga]

Cousy would still wreck 1 on 1.

with those handles it's a wonder cousy didn't wreck himself tbh.

[AirFederer]

http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/09/college-basketball-freshman-jump-touch-top-backboard

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
:applause: :applause:
Actual video evidence, unlike some other frauds such as Wilt

Well, as you know only 2% of Wilts jumps are on tape but luckily I have done some research and I came up with this evidence of him outjumping the backboard by a foot. EVIDENCE, guys.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/espelid/media/wilt%20above%20ze%20rimming_zpsdshl8yyx.jpg.html)


Oh, and, that video is in no was proof. It`s not grainy enough.

[AirFederer]

just finished my analysis

it's legit ph Aggot
http://i.imgur.com/7QNM4TM.png

Haha, well played, sir :roll: :cheers:

[bdreason]

Looks about 6 inches from the top of the board. Still impressive, especially for someone 6'3".

[DCL]

i dont think it was the TOP of the backboard, but that's still some impressive vert.

[ClipperRevival]

Very impressive but it still amazes me how gullible people are. When viewing these type of videos/pics, you HAVE to consider the ANGLE of where the video was shot. The video was shot way below the rim, so it distorts where the head/hands are in relation to the rim. His head is clearly a few inches below the rim and his hand is a good distance below the top of the backboard. This type of stuff isn't easy. I don't know if anyone can touch the TOP of the backboard, let alone a 6'3" kid. If he can, that means his vertical is world record type.

[ClipperRevival]

This is James White....one of the greatest leapers of his size humanity will ever produce:

http://s17.postimg.org/s018dgtfz/2r6yvrq.jpg


Hes 6'8'' in shoes.


Here he is trying to do what this 6'3'' kid supposedly did with ease:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43c6a_james-white-nearly-touches-top-of-g_sport


I'll leave it at this...I dont know wat happened..but it seems fishy that James White cant do it at 6'8'' and that kid can at 6'3''.

I dont doubt its possible. At 6'3'' on a regulation modern backboard?

Ehhhh....

That kid would need what....a 53 inch vertical if he has a better than average standing reach for his size?

That was a 50+ inch vertical there?

I know people can have a 50+ vertical...I just feel like it would appear more....eye popping.

Bad angle maybe...but that didnt look like the highest leap ive ever seen.

Did that look like the greatest leap you ever witnessed....or are we seeing dudes 55 inches up on the regular and not noticing?

Ive seen Gerald Green throat high and not be able to touch the top of the backboard. I hope this blows up so hes asked to do it on an nba or college rim to prove it.

I'll give him all the props in the world if he can...

It just doesnt quite look right you know?

Yes, taking a logical approach to this situation. :applause:

[Psileas]

Get that "6'3 dude enters a random gym and touches the top of a stick which is supposedly exactly as tall as the top of a backboard which is supposedly a normal one" crap out of here. No proof that the stick is at 13 feet or that this specific backboard's top is at 13 feet either. Get this guy into a real stadium, preferably an NBA arena, have people measure the height of the backboard, then have that guy touch the top of the backboard itself, no sticks, bells, etc, and implant a camera on the top of the backboard for proof.

[chocolatethunder]

Great but can he play basketball?

[tmacattack33]

Humans obviously get more and more efficient with nutrition and training as time goes by. There might be the occasional backward step where some bad information gets passed along, but generally we'll be getting better and better.

No surprise here.

[sdot_thadon]

Some critics in here, damn. I dunno if it's all the way legit, but boys nose is near rim level and if he got a long wingspan it's probably legit. Anybody know if those type of back boards can be lowered?

[julizaver]

This is James White....one of the greatest leapers of his size humanity will ever produce:

http://s17.postimg.org/s018dgtfz/2r6yvrq.jpg


Hes 6'8'' in shoes.


Here he is trying to do what this 6'3'' kid supposedly did with ease:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x43c6a_james-white-nearly-touches-top-of-g_sport


I'll leave it at this...I dont know wat happened..but it seems fishy that James White cant do it at 6'8'' and that kid can at 6'3''.

I dont doubt its possible. At 6'3'' on a regulation modern backboard?

Ehhhh....

That kid would need what....a 53 inch vertical if he has a better than average standing reach for his size?

That was a 50+ inch vertical there?

I know people can have a 50+ vertical...I just feel like it would appear more....eye popping.

Bad angle maybe...but that didnt look like the highest leap ive ever seen.

Did that look like the greatest leap you ever witnessed....or are we seeing dudes 55 inches up on the regular and not noticing?

Ive seen Gerald Green throat high and not be able to touch the top of the backboard. I hope this blows up so hes asked to do it on an nba or college rim to prove it.

I'll give him all the props in the world if he can...

It just doesnt quite look right you know?

James White is FT slam dunking phenom. But at the time this video of him was shot (2008) he was already bulking a little and have lost inch or two of his Olympic jumping ability - if the video was shot during his college days he would touch the 13ft bar for sure.

Here is the whole article:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth

For those who doesn't have the time to read it is what J. Whyte said about it:

"I've never actually done it, per se. But doing the vertical test at the University of Cincinnati, I've touched as high as the top of the backboard."

[SyRyanYang]

Doesn't look right. I'm always suspicious of these touching the top of the backboard videos. I don't think he actually did. His head is maybe a little bit above rim level. Does that mean he has a 9'1" standing reach at 6'3"???

The angle is deceptive.

HA HA HA

First stage of grief

[Darius]

Did you see the other vid? Look at how easily he backflipped

[ClipperRevival]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiSj3hOlc0E

James White gets about as high as anyone in terms of where his head is in relation to the rim. The one play where he misses the alley opp, his head is clearly a few inches above the rim, which you seldom see. And this is with the proper camera angle that isn't shot from a low angle.

[ClipperRevival]

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/4307/james-white-vs-a-jumping-myth

Here's an ESPN article from 2008 discussing the topic of touching the top of the backboard. Bron said he couldn't do it. Dwight Howard said he could. James White tried it and was a couple of inches short. This stuff isn't easy.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Just did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5wghKw0S0

[FKAri]

Just did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5wghKw0S0

I love watching opposing bench reactions :lol

[Round Mound]

He can jump but can he play the game? got skills?

[ClipperRevival]

Just did this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5wghKw0S0

That's impressive and does show off his freakish hops. But touching the top of the backboard is an entirely different animal.

[Pushxx]

I got a chance to ask Tommy Heinsohn in 2008 if either Wilt or Russell could touch the top of the backboard, and he said "I don't know anybody that can, but they could come as close as anyone."

Figured I'd share.

[pauk]

Cool, can he actually play tho? Jumping is meaningless if you dont have the skills/talent & IQ/experience to exploit it in game...

[chocolatethunder]

Cool, can he actually play tho? Jumping is meaningless if you dont have the skills/talent & IQ/experience to exploit it in game...

Can he play? Why would that matter? This is ISH where people say verticals "aren't a good indicator of athleticism" and where people also claim to be so educated about the game and aren't "casual fans" yet if some guy can jump high or has a nice dunk in a game, then he's the next best thing. Who cares if they can play. This is the forum where Darius Miles and Michael Beasley were always waiting to have a breakout year and were unfairly blackballed. Why ask a common sense question like whether or not a guy can play?

[pauk]

NBA backboard is at 395 cm (13' feet), which is 90 cm (35.4" or 3' feet) above the rim (305 cm, 10 feet).

This guy is 190 cm (6'3").... since we dont know this guys standing reach lets just act like he has similar reach of Westbrook (who also is 6'3"), his reach is 8'4" (259 cm)....

Now, if you raise/jump 8'4" (259 cm) straight up and touch the top of the backboard that means you jumped/raised up exactly 137 cm (54" inches, your/his vertical) of the floor.......... you would be literally touching the rim with your chest or something....

What i am saying is either this guy has a 54"+ inch vertical or a Manute Bol reach (still will need a nice vertical)....

I will leave it at that.

[OnFire]

Unless im off on how that testing works....the kid would need a 54 inch vertical with a non Rondoish wingspan. If hes on some Mr Fantastic/Stretch Armstrong shit...ok...I guess.

Well first of all, the vertical numbers you read are from standing still next to the measuring device, and leaping straight up (vertically) and slapping the measuring thing.

So he may not have a 54" vertical but maybe can do it from running starts... its a whole different technique.

[references]

Can he play? Why would that matter? This is ISH where people say verticals "aren't a good indicator of athleticism" and where people also claim to be so educated about the game and aren't "casual fans" yet if some guy can jump high or has a nice dunk in a game, then he's the next best thing. Who cares if they can play. This is the forum where Darius Miles and Michael Beasley were always waiting to have a breakout year and were unfairly blackballed. Why ask a common sense question like whether or not a guy can play?
no one gives a damn. this thread isn't about that so take your pretentious wannabe scout ass somewhere else. acting like you're high and mighty because you don't care about dunking or athleticism. well some people do and this thread reflects that. :rolleyes:

[chocolatethunder]

Well first of all, the vertical numbers you read are from standing still next to the measuring device, and leaping straight up (vertically) and slapping the measuring thing.

So he may not have a 54" vertical but maybe can do it from running starts... its a whole different technique.
No. There are no step vert tests and max vert tests where you get a few steps. The numbers everyone quotes are the max vert numbers.

This is what a max vert test looks like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLRPEcqJvzM