Great Bosh Playoff Performances as a Heat

[dubeta]

Hey guys


As you know I'm a Heat fan and have been for years. Thus, I have a great interest in Bosh and his accomplishments as a Miami Heat.



Thus, to admire his game, I wanted to research and watch some great playoff performances he had as a Miami Heat. Where he actually made an impact.



Please use this thread to document, and post any links, stats, videos, highlights of Bosh playoff games where he was actually great and looked like a $100M superstar


Hopefully we can find these great playoff performances, as I would greatly like to view them.

Thanks!

[GIF REACTION]

Game 7 2013 finals

He was on fire!

[dubeta]

.....

[bukowski81]

He was great his whole career until he was forced to play Kang Ball

That really ruined him forever :(

[dubeta]

He was great his whole career until he was forced to play Kang Ball

That really ruined him forever :(


Tell me how great he was missing the playoffs 6 out of 8 seasons without the Kang

[Trollsmasher]

I remember him having on or two good games against the Bulls.

Then again I also remember Roy "The Trash Bin" Hibbert raping him like it's nothing

[stalkerforlife]

2011 he averaged 19 and 9 throughout entire playoffs. But someone else disappeared in the finals.

:lebronamazed:

[dubeta]

2011 he averaged 19 and 9 throughout entire playoffs. But someone else disappeared in the finals.

:lebronamazed:


Shaq averaged 26 and 12 in the 2004 playoffs :biggums:


Still no ring??

[stalkerforlife]

Shaq averaged 26 and 12 in the 2004 playoffs :biggums:


Still no ring??

So Bosh is better than Bran? I agree.

Because Shaq was better than Kobe.

[LikeABosh]

U wot m8? Tread lightly on my boy Bosh mother****er :coleman:

[dubeta]

So no answers here?? :biggums:


Superstars are known for great playoff performances, where are Boshs??

[GrapeApe]

He was a third option and should be compared to other third options. You're not going to put up big numbers as a third option, especially playing out of position. How many third options average 19/9 for a playoff run?

[WayOfWade]

This is the best that I could get...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5aHJFwc-k 2011 Game 3 vs. Bulls, 34 points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CY6rrZ0Qu0 Game 3 2011 Finals, hits the game winner; that's about it though, he was -10 +/- in the game

Outside of those he did have that pretty good game 4 against the Spurs in 2013, something like 20 points, 12 Rebounds and 2 blocks, but those are hardly $100,000,000 numbers. The last possible thing I could think of was his championship saving rebound and block in game 6, but those are just singular plays not games though.

[Sarcastic]

The rebound off Lebron's miss and pass to Ray for 3 was worth $90 million at least. Can you imagine if Lebron was 1/6? Yikes!

[GimmeThat]

so Al Horford, not a 70-80 mil Center?

[Mr. Jabbar]

the KENG has played with scrubs :banghead:

[Duffy Pratt]

He was a third option and should be compared to other third options. You're not going to put up big numbers as a third option, especially playing out of position. How many third options average 19/9 for a playoff run?

James Worthy and Bill Laimbeer come to mind. Dave Debusschere, as fourth option on the 69-70 Knicks averaged 16/11. Mo Cheeks put up 16/7 assists as fourth option for the 83 Sixers. Russell, in 66, as third option averaged 19/25/5. So not common, but not as rare as you might think.

[IllegalD]

https://youtu.be/2r-ivyuxOnI
(https://youtu.be/2r-ivyuxOnI)

Bosh made all the big plays in that crucial Game 6 to snatch the championship away from the Spurs. :bowdown:


All the while your boyfriend was choking like the b*tch we've all grown to know.

https://youtu.be/5yqh2s2debM

:facepalm :lebronamazed:

[SouBeachTalents]

https://youtu.be/2r-ivyuxOnI
(https://youtu.be/2r-ivyuxOnI)

Bosh made all the big plays in that crucial Game 6 to snatch the championship away from the Spurs. :bowdown:


All the while your boyfriend was choking like the b*tch we've all grown to know.

https://youtu.be/5yqh2s2debM

:facepalm :lebronamazed:

How would you compare their performances in Game 7?

[IllegalD]

This is the best that I could get...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5aHJFwc-k 2011 Game 3 vs. Bulls, 34 points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CY6rrZ0Qu0 Game 3 2011 Finals, hits the game winner; that's about it though, he was -10 +/- in the game

Outside of those he did have that pretty good game 4 against the Spurs in 2013, something like 20 points, 12 Rebounds and 2 blocks, but those are hardly $100,000,000 numbers. The last possible thing I could think of was his championship saving rebound and block in game 6, but those are just singular plays not games though.

Dumbass heat fan who looks at boxscores instead of the actual games. :facepalm

Bosh sacrificed his stats and opened himself up to this type of criticism for the good of the team, so the selfish players that are Wade and LeBron could be "the dynamic duo."

Still doesn't change the fact that Bosh is a 2nd option on a contending team level player (much like Pau) that was downgraded to a 3rd option to fit LeFraud's selfish style of play.

In fact, had Spo had the balls to downgrade Wade to 3rd option when he was limping around and embarrassing himself in the 2014 Finals, and made Bosh the 2nd option, Heat would've had a shot at beating the Spurs. But you know... #WadeCountyReasons :roll:

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kawhi-steal-off-wade.gif

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-sad-2.gif


Bosh >>>>>> Lamar Odom or Horrace Grant.

[dubeta]

Wait, so Bosh doesn't have a single decent playoff performance?? :(

[IllegalD]

How would you compare their performances in Game 7?

The Game 7 that wouldn't have happened had it not been for Bosh's big plays in Game 6...? :confusedshrug:

Pathetic Heat fans are more in love with LeBron still than their own current best player (Bosh). :roll: :biggums:

[IllegalD]

Wait, so Bosh doesn't have a single decent playoff performance?? :(

/THREAD BACKFIRE

LeBron Stanley exposed. :roll:

Take your lumps. b*tch.

That LeBron losing finals record must hurt your butthole so good.

[SouBeachTalents]

The Game 7 that wouldn't have happened had it not been for Bosh's big plays in Game 6...? :confusedshrug:

Pathetic Heat fans are more in love with LeBron still than their own current best player (Bosh). :roll: :biggums:

LeBron had a 30 point triple double in Game 6, including 16 points in the 4th quarter. But no, we'll just give Bosh all the credit for a rebound he grabbed with no big men on the floor for the Spurs

[IllegalD]

LeBron had a 30 point triple double in Game 6, including 16 points in the 4th quarter. But no, we'll just give Bosh all the credit for a rebound he grabbed with no big men on the floor for the Spurs

For just A rebound...? Did you not see the video...? :biggums: :facepalm

LeBron also did his best to choke away the game at the end when it matters most. :roll:

[dubeta]

LeBron had a 30 point triple double in Game 6, including 16 points in the 4th quarter. But no, we'll just give Bosh all the credit for a rebound he grabbed with no big men on the floor for the Spurs

If Bosh could've average more than 10 points and 3 rebounds in the first 6 games, then they wouldn't have been in a position where they needed that pathetic rebound :oldlol:

[IllegalD]

If Bosh could've average more than 10 points and 3 rebounds in the first 6 games, then they wouldn't have been in a position where they needed that pathetic rebound :oldlol:

Kind of hard to when LeFraud turns your from one of the best PFs in the league to a spot up 3 point shooter.... :applause:

[GrapeApe]

If Bosh could've average more than 10 points and 3 rebounds in the first 6 games, then they wouldn't have been in a position where they needed that pathetic rebound :oldlol:

You have no understanding of the game so it's pointless to try to explain, but intelligent basketball fans know that Bosh's impact went beyond the numbers. How many guys go from being a first option to a third option in their prime and then are asked to play out of position for the good of the team? The answer is only Bosh.

His defensive mobility and floor spacing alone made him an invaluable asset on those Heat teams. He's the best pnr defending big in the league and his ability to stretch the floor created countless driving lanes for Lebron and Wade. He did a lot of things to help the Heat win that didn't show up in the box score, but an idiot like yourself would have no clue about that.

[dubeta]

You have no understanding of the game so it's pointless to try to explain, but intelligent basketball fans know that Bosh's impact went beyond the numbers. How many guys go from being a first option to a third option in their prime and then are asked to play out of position for the good of the team? The answer is only Bosh.

His defensive mobility and floor spacing alone made him an invaluable asset on those Heat teams. He's the best pnr defending big in the league and his ability to stretch the floor created countless driving lanes for Lebron and Wade. He did a lot of things to help the Heat win that didn't show up in the box score, but an idiot like yourself would have no clue about that.

There are only so many ways you can make excuses for multiple 12 point 6 rebound playoff runs :confusedshrug:

[Duffy Pratt]

How many guys go from being a first option to a third option in their prime and then are asked to play out of position for the good of the team? The answer is only Bosh..

Earl Monroe went from first option point guard with the Bullets to third, and maybe fourth, option shooting guard with the Knicks.

Kevin Love is trying to do the Bosh thing now. So that's two examples.

Rasheed went from first option at Portland to third at Detroit. Not as out of position though.

[FreezingTsmoove]

what you tom bout little boy Bosh averaged more THAN BRAN when it mattered most (2011 finals) aka 0/2

[GrapeApe]

There are only so many ways you can make excuses for multiple 12 point 6 rebound playoff runs :confusedshrug:

I explain why Bosh's contributions go beyond numbers and what do you respond with? Numbers. Unreal.

:oldlol:

[dubeta]

I explain why Bosh's contributions go beyond numbers and what do you respond with? Numbers. Unreal.

:oldlol:

Varejaos contributions go beyond his numbers as well


Is he a star also?


What about Korver and his spacing? His contributions go over his numbers. Is he a star/superstar?



Theres nothing special bout 'contributing' more than your numbers.



12 points 5 rebounds is 12 points 5 rebounds

[Horatio33]

Game 7 2013 finals

He was on fire!
I'm a Spurs fan, and in that game Bosh was incredible on defense. Especially the second half.

[GimmeThat]

Varejaos contributions go beyond his numbers as well


Is he a star also?


What about Korver and his spacing? His contributions go over his numbers. Is he a star/superstar?



Theres nothing special bout 'contributing' more than your numbers.



12 points 5 rebounds is 12 points 5 rebounds


that's kinda how I feel about emergency situations

a players' contribution 'can' go beyond the numbers when needed
can't say that means they always will

beyond the efficiency and defense nonchalant


it's not a players league just because there are 30 teams in the league
it's a players league because you need actual intelligence/smarts on the basketball floor


how can you tell?


how many games can a team actually lose in one season?

just think about it.

[JT123]

Varejaos contributions go beyond his numbers as well


Is he a star also?


What about Korver and his spacing? His contributions go over his numbers. Is he a star/superstar?



Theres nothing special bout 'contributing' more than your numbers.



12 points 5 rebounds is 12 points 5 rebounds
ether. Bosh has ZERO memorable playoff performances.

[GrapeApe]

I'm a Spurs fan, and in that game Bosh was incredible on defense. Especially the second half.

Don't tell that to Lebron stans though. According to them if it doesn't show up on the stat sheet it doesn't count. It's all about the numbers bro. Gotta check them stats.

[lil jahlil]

2011 he averaged 19 and 9 throughout entire playoffs. But someone else disappeared in the finals.

:lebronamazed:
:applause:

[Magic 32]

ether. Bosh has ZERO memorable playoff performances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkifS6KOuTU

Now find another third option from this century with a better playoff performance

[ImKobe]

He was the guy that rebounded Bran's missed game-tying 3 in Game 6 of 2013 Finals and got it to Ray Allen for the 3 that saved the season, also blocked Danny Green's game-tying 3pt shot at the end of OT to seal the game.

Bosh averaged more ppg in the 2011 Finals than Bran, so there's that.

Had plenty of decent 20-30 pt games during those Playoff runs, most notable one to me was his 34 pt game against Chicago, he really dominated their front court that series, if he didn't look like a superstar that series, it goes 7 games because all those games were close, except for the Game 1 blowout by Chicago.

Bosh could still drop 30+ when they needed him to, but he was playing the Kevin Love role on those Miami Heat teams with Bran and Wade handling the ball most of the time, he was there to play defense (Did really good on double teams in the 2013 Finals, he made Duncan work for those points and he was guarding Parker and Manu at times as well, one of the most underrated defenders that season) and shoot the open jump shots.

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkifS6KOuTU

Now find another third option from this century with a better playoff performance

Here's a player nobody's even heard of

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200605040IND.html

[Magic 32]

Here's a player nobody's even heard of

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200605040IND.html

True, but he was not the third option on the Pacers.

And I doubt Anthony Johnson had 17 +20 games as a pacer in the playoffs.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=2011&year_max=2014&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=MIA&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=Y&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_fc=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

I guess the only one I can think of is Ray Allen in Game 2 vs the lakers.

And nobody tries to convince anybody that the Celtics were not a big 3.

[BuffaloBill]

2011 he averaged 19 and 9 throughout entire playoffs. But someone else disappeared in the finals.

:lebronamazed:


damn

[Nash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkifS6KOuTU

[Wade's Rings]

Dumbass heat fan who looks at boxscores instead of the actual games. :facepalm

Bosh sacrificed his stats and opened himself up to this type of criticism for the good of the team, so the selfish players that are Wade and LeBron could be "the dynamic duo."

Still doesn't change the fact that Bosh is a 2nd option on a contending team level player (much like Pau) that was downgraded to a 3rd option to fit LeFraud's selfish style of play.

In fact, had Spo had the balls to downgrade Wade to 3rd option when he was limping around and embarrassing himself in the 2014 Finals, and made Bosh the 2nd option, Heat would've had a shot at beating the Spurs. But you know... #WadeCountyReasons :roll:

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/kawhi-steal-off-wade.gif

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/wade-sad-2.gif


Bosh >>>>>> Lamar Odom or Horrace Grant.

Isn't your favorite player the guy who helped drive Shaq & Dwight out of L.A?

[Magic 32]

Isn't your favorite player the guy who helped drive Shaq & Dwight out of L.A?

Jerry/Jim Buss?

[dubeta]

So bottom line,


Is It clear that Bosh is worse that Odom, Horace Grant, and Kukoc?



There's no evidence of him being more impactful, especially in the playoffs

[LikeABosh]

Keep talking shit about mah boi Bosh and I'll have to curb stomp you

[Duffy Pratt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkifS6KOuTU

Now find another third option from this century with a better playoff performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VV6ibmaUFc

That's the third time in this thread that someone has claimed some unique distinction for Bosh as a third option which turns out to be false, and easy to find that its false.

[Magic 32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VV6ibmaUFc

That's the third time in this thread that someone has claimed some unique distinction for Bosh as a third option which turns out to be false, and easy to find that its false.

Manu was the second option in 2005.

Manu 2005 PO: 20.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 50.7%
Parker 2005 PO: 17.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 45.4%

Try harder .... ....

[SouBeachTalents]

Lol, that Bulls game from 4 years ago has now been posted like 5 times :lol

[dubeta]

Lol, that Bulls game from 4 years ago has now been posted like 5 times :lol

Thats all they can cling on :lol



Similar to "B-But 81 points lulz!" when asked how Kobe is an elite scorer

[Magic 32]

Lol, that Bulls game from 4 years ago has now been posted like 5 times :lol

Yes, finding legendary games from a third option playing on a team designed not to take advange of their frontcourt can be tricky.

Pick one yourself.

http://s15.postimg.org/qamocf83f/2342342.png

[dubeta]

So only six 20 point games since 2011? :lol


Trust me 6 20 point playoff games in a 4 year span is NOT hard to find from championship 3rd options



You want me to create a list of championship 3rd options with more than six 20 point games in 4 years?



I could invest that time, but you would still find way to spin the results and troll out of the question, so why bother.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yes, finding legendary games from a third option playing on a team designed not to take advange of their frontcourt can be tricky.

Pick one yourself.

http://s15.postimg.org/qamocf83f/2342342.png

Bosh played very well in 2011, but I'm not going to pretend missing half the playoffs in 2012, getting outplayed by Duncan and Roy ****ing Hibbert in 2013 and averaging 5-6 rebounds per game in 2014 is some praiseworthy feat

[Magic 32]

So only six 20 point games since 2011? :lol


Trust me 6 20 point playoff games in a 4 year span is NOT hard to find from championship 3rd options



You want me to create a list of championship 3rd options with more than 6 20 point games in 4 years?



I could invest that time, but you would still find way to spin the results and troll out of the question, so why bother.

3 years.

And your favorite player's TOTAL failure in 2011 forced the coach to marginalize Bosh completely to open the paint.

And he was injured in 2012 as well.

And the 9 20+ games from 2011 makes that year even more unforgivable. The perfect failure from Lebron.

[dubeta]

3 years.




4 years


I said great Bosh playoff performances as a Miami Heat, not great Bosh performances with LeBron

2011-2015 = 4 years





Bosh doesnt get credit for still missing the playoffs in the Weak East

[Magic 32]

4 years



http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2015/02/chrisbosh.jpg

You have no shame.

Can't wait for 2016.

[WayOfWade]

Thats all they can cling on :lol



Similar to "B-But 81 points lulz!" when asked how Kobe is an elite scorer
Yeah, that game 3 is pretty much the only time he really looked like a $100,000,000 guy, and seeing as you specifically asked for any performance where he looked like one, that's what you get.
You are right though, Bosh hasn't really had great playoff performances worthy of his contract. Whether that's his fault or not is up to you

[dubeta]

Yeah, that game 3 is pretty much the only time he really looked like a $100,000,000 guy, and seeing as you specifically asked for any performance where he looked like one, that's what you get.
You are right though, Bosh hasn't really had great playoff performances worthy of his contract. Whether that's his fault or not is up to you

This is actually a objective and realistic way of looking at it

Solid points.


He was a star in 2011


But after that its hard to say he was anything more than a decent player in the 2012-2014 playoffs

[dubeta]

Can't wait for 2016.


So you're booking more 20+ point playoff games from Bosh now?

[20Four]

Honestly dubeta....what is wrong with you?

[GIF REACTION]

Honestly dubeta....what is wrong with you?
I'll take a double meat cheese burger, onion rings, and a Cookies and Cream McFlurry

[Magic 32]

So you're booking more 20+ point playoff games from Bosh now?

He will put up 20-25 points for sure.

He is averaging 20.5ppg in his 11 playoff games without Lebron.

[Clifton]

I don't get what happened to Bosh. In Toronto he was a 25ppg scorer. A legit go-to guy, who scored on a level of peak Pierce and Dirk.

It seems as though he lacks the confidence to assert himself unless his team or coach is saying to him, "We depend on you to shoulder a large part of the scoring load." But he has proven that if you do ask him to, he can do it.

I think the Heat would do well to put the ball in his hands more. You can never depend on Wade to be healthy, and perform night in night out, especially in the regular season. I think if Bosh scores 22 a night the Heat can be a threat to make the Finals this year. But he hasn't shown anything that suggests he can score like he did in Toronto any more.

I say let Wade coast on 19/5/5 in 65 games. Let him pick up in the second round scoring 25 a night... Bosh should be the #1 option.

[20Four]

I'll take a double meat cheese burger, onion rings, and a Cookies and Cream McFlurry
Why you quoting your customers?

[dubeta]

I don't get what happened to Bosh. In Toronto he was a 25ppg scorer. A legit go-to guy, who scored on a level of peak Pierce and Dirk.

It seems as though he lacks the confidence to assert himself unless his team or coach is saying to him, "We depend on you to shoulder a large part of the scoring load." But he has proven that if you do ask him to, he can do it.

I think the Heat would do well to put the ball in his hands more. You can never depend on Wade to be healthy, and perform night in night out, especially in the regular season. I think if Bosh scores 22 a night the Heat can be a threat to make the Finals this year. But he hasn't shown anything that suggests he can score like he did in Toronto any more.

I say let Wade coast on 19/5/5 in 65 games. Let him pick up in the second round scoring 25 a night... Bosh should be the #1 option.


:rolleyes:

[SouBeachTalents]

I don't get what happened to Bosh. In Toronto he was a 25ppg scorer. A legit go-to guy, who scored on a level of peak Pierce and Dirk.

It seems as though he lacks the confidence to assert himself unless his team or coach is saying to him, "We depend on you to shoulder a large part of the scoring load." But he has proven that if you do ask him to, he can do it.

I think the Heat would do well to put the ball in his hands more. You can never depend on Wade to be healthy, and perform night in night out, especially in the regular season. I think if Bosh scores 22 a night the Heat can be a threat to make the Finals this year. But he hasn't shown anything that suggests he can score like he did in Toronto any more.

That statement is 100% false. Bosh has NEVER averaged 25 ppg, not in a season, playoff run, or even a playoff series. He had 22-23 for a few seasons and one season at 24. Pierce & Dirk have averaged 25 plus multiple times, while Dirk has had several playoff runs averaging 26-28 ppg, including two Finals runs

[3ball]

.
Let's compare 3rd options:


4-time all star Bosh 2011-2014:. 17 ppg.. 7 rpg
0-time all star Grant 1991-1993: 11 ppg.. 8 rpg


Bosh produced more, even though it's a statistical fact that Lebron reduced his stats, while Horace's remained the same alongside MJ

Also, keep in mind that Bosh was a wildly versatile player, who served as a 40% floor-spreader in Lebron-ball.. Otoh, Horace was just an ordinary, replaceable play-finisher with no unique, sophisticated skill like Bosh.

[SouBeachTalents]

.
Let's compare 3rd options:


4-time all star Bosh 2011-2014:. 17 ppg.. 7 rpg
0-time all star Grant 1991-1993: 11 ppg.. 8 rpg

Bosh produced more, even though it's a statistical fact that Lebron reduced his stats, while Horace's remained the same alongside MJ

Also, keep in mind that Bosh was a wildly versatile player, who served as a 40% floor-spreader in Lebron-ball.. Otoh, Horace was just an ordinary, replaceable play-finisher with no unique, sophisticated skill like Bosh.

How come Bosh's all-star selections are legit, but this years Hawks having 4 all-stars was not?

[3ball]

How come Bosh's all-star selections are legit, but this years Hawks having 4 all-stars was not?
Bosh did it 4 times alongside Lebron, and 10 times overall.

Whereas this year's Hawks were a fluke

Pretty massive difference

[dubeta]

How come Bosh's all-star selections are legit, but this years Hawks having 4 all-stars was not?

:applause:


3ball caught in a trap :lol


LeBron beat 4-all stars by himself

[3ball]

Let's compare 3rd options:


4-time all star Bosh 2011-2014:. 17 ppg.. 7 rpg
0-time all star Grant 1991-1993: 11 ppg.. 8 rpg


Bosh produced more, even though it's a statistical fact that Lebron reduced his stats, while Horace's remained the same alongside MJ

Also, keep in mind that Bosh was a wildly versatile player, who served as a 40% floor-spreader in Lebron-ball.. Otoh, Horace was just an ordinary, replaceable play-finisher with no unique, sophisticated skill like Bosh.




3ball caught in a trap :lol


:whatever:

Bosh was an all-star 4 times alongside Lebron, and 10 times overall.

Whereas this year's Hawks were a fluke

Pretty massive difference

[Clifton]

That statement is 100% false. Bosh has NEVER averaged 25 ppg, not in a season, playoff run, or even a playoff series. He had 22-23 for a few seasons and one season at 24. Pierce & Dirk have averaged 25 plus multiple times, while Dirk has had several playoff runs averaging 26-28 ppg, including two Finals runs
Fair enough, I was wrong.

But 22-24 is still a lot. And I do remember him scoring in iso situations, it wasn't like an Antawn Jamison thing. He got to the line a lot.

I still think he should be at 20-22 for the Heat to be at their best. Why can't Bosh and Wade be one of the deadliest P and R duos in the league?

[Clifton]

:rolleyes:
It's the Heat, man. They've got champions on their team. Only one other good team in the Least. They're a dark horse but I think they've got a chance.

A lot will depend on Hassan Whiteside's development.

[Duffy Pratt]

Manu was the second option in 2005.

Manu 2005 PO: 20.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 50.7%
Parker 2005 PO: 17.2 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.3 apg, 0.7 spg, 45.4%

Try harder .... ....

His playoff scoring was higher than Parkers. On the season, he was third option, and that's also the way the Spurs ran their offense. Duncan averaged over 20. Parker had 16.6, Manu 16. More important, in both regular season and the playoffs, Parker and Duncan attempted significantly more shots than Manu. Parker had 80 more attempts than Manu in that playoff run. Manu was third option.