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West-Side
10-02-2015, 11:23 AM
Despite me already having a decent job at a bank, I had an interview with KPMG on September 24th. The recruiter said it will take 1-2 weeks to get back to the candidates. I did great on the interview, both with the HR people and with the partner. In fact, one of my close friends who works at KPMG as a Senior said the partner contacted her the next day to talk about me. She said she put in a good word and that she personally thinks I have the job. This was LAST Friday. I sent two thank you letters to the partner and the recruiter. Both got back to me, in fact, the partner got back to me within 20 minutes.

They had interviews on Monday & Tuesday as well. So it's only been 3 days since they finalized all the interviews. I was so excited on Friday but have not heard nothing as of yet. I know KPMG has a quick turn around with the interviews, so I've been a nervous wreck all week.

I do have a job, but I really want to work with KPMG. The career path is brighter and the benefit package is incredible.

My friend also said they are understaffed so she thinks they're looking to fit a few open roles, which could explain the delay. I've been checking my phone/email every 30 minutes since Monday. The anxiety doesn't allow me to focus on anything other then waiting for a response.

Anyone had a similar experience with the Big Four, or any other similar experience waiting to hear about the job?

:(

ISHGoat
10-02-2015, 11:25 AM
Despite me already having a decent job at a bank, I had an interview with KPMG on September 24th. The recruiter said it will take 1-2 weeks to get back to the candidates. I did great on the interview, both with the HR people and with the partner. In fact, one of my close friends who works at KPMG as a Senior said the partner contacted her the next day to talk about me. She said she put in a good word and that she personally thinks I have the job. This was LAST Friday. I sent two thank you letters to the partner and the recruiter. Both got back to me, in fact, the partner got back to me within 20 minutes.

They had interviews on Monday & Tuesday as well. So it's only been 3 days since they finalized all the interviews. I was so excited on Friday but have not heard nothing as of yet. I know KPMG has a quick turn around with the interviews, so I've been a nervous wreck all week.

I do have a job, but I really want to work with KPMG. The career path is brighter and the benefit package is incredible.

My friend also said they are understaffed so she thinks they're looking to fit a few open roles, which could explain the delay. I've been checking my phone/email every 30 minutes since Monday. The anxiety doesn't allow me to focus on anything other then waiting for a response.

Anyone had a similar experience with the Big Four, or any other similar experience waiting to hear about the job?

:(

Follow up with them, specifically, the hiring manager or the person sending you the offer email if you can. Some of these HR people and hiring managers are lazy or careless as fuq. Keep nagging them until they hire you. I referred my friend to my company, there was no interview response from the COO after one week. I sent her an email, and 5 minutes later my friend got an interview. No news for one week after reference check. I sent the COO another email and my friend got the offer 5 minutes later.

fiddy
10-02-2015, 11:27 AM
Whats the point of being worried? Sounds like you probably making it, if you dont you still have job.

West-Side
10-02-2015, 11:29 AM
Follow up with them, specifically, the hiring manager or the person sending you the offer email if you can. Some of these HR people and hiring managers are lazy or careless as fuq. Keep nagging them until they hire you. I referred my friend to my company, there was no interview response from the COO after one week. I sent her an email, and 5 minutes later my friend got an interview. No news for one week after reference check. I sent the COO another email and my friend got the offer 5 minutes later.

Really? I am a little scared because I don't want to seem desperate or a "nag". The fact that the recruiter said after the interview "we will get back to candidates within a week...or two" make me worry that if I do send an email, they will interpret it as me not being able to follow instructions.

I wish my friend never told me that the partner contacted her, I would have been far less nervous and just waited. I think that's why I'm anxious at the moment. Plus it's a life changing job, a lot of pressure.

Draz
10-02-2015, 11:30 AM
You rich mfr buy me some Cologne

West-Side
10-02-2015, 11:30 AM
Whats the point of being worried? Sounds like you probably making it, if you dont you still have job.

True, that's what everyone told me.
I'd rather work for KPMG than the bank because advancement is much faster, benefits are better and they have 4 service sectors (audit, tax, enterprise & advisory); which compliments my background perfectly.

I have a degree in accounting and a masters in finance.

Jailblazers7
10-02-2015, 11:34 AM
Really? I am a little scared because I don't want to seem desperate or a "nag". The fact that the recruiter said after the interview "we will get back to candidates within a week...or two" make me worry that if I do send an email, they will interpret it as me not being able to follow instructions.

I wish my friend never told me that the partner contacted her, I would have been far less nervous and just waited. I think that's why I'm anxious at the moment. Plus it's a life changing job, a lot of pressure.

I would just email your HR contact on Monday or Tuesday since it has been about two weeks at that point. These types of things tend to slip people's minds at the tail end of a week so you're better off giving them a reminder at the beginning of next week.

The process does suck tho. I had an opportunity to interview with the NY Fed which was exciting and super nerve wracking. Didn't end up getting the job but the waiting game is very stressful when it's an opportunity you are very excited about.

Andrew Wiggins
10-02-2015, 11:37 AM
i worked for deloitte for several years and it took me to wonderful places around the world and i made more money than i could have imagined, which is how i ended up barcelona but beware of joining understaffed departments. the workload and hours can get overwhelming at times. recently i resigned and took up a a similar role for a big corporation based in europe with much more personal flexibility.

i'm not on the accounting side of things though so it may be different there. they didn't have many competent people capable in the specific kind of work i do so i often ended having to do the work of 2-3 people...

West-Side
10-02-2015, 11:39 AM
i worked for deloitte for several years and it took me to wonderful places around the world and i made more money than i could have imagined, which is how i ended up barcelona but beware of joining understaffed departments. the workload and hours can get overwhelming at times. recently i resigned and took up a a similar role for a big corporation based in europe with much more personal flexibility.

i'm not on the accounting side of things though so it may be different there.

After the interview, how long did it take them to get back to you with a job offer? Also, did you do co-op? And how did they contact you with the job offer (email, call or letter)?

ISHGoat
10-02-2015, 11:40 AM
i worked for deloitte for several years and it took me to wonderful places around the world and i made more money than i could have imagined, which is how i ended up barcelona but beware of joining understaffed departments. the workload and hours can get overwhelming at times. recently i resigned and took up a a similar role for a big corporation based in europe with much more personal flexibility.

i'm not on the accounting side of things though so it may be different there. they didn't have many competent people capable in the specific kind of work i do so i often ended having to do the work of 2-3 people...

This is true. I have a good friend that works at KPMG, now in his second or third year. They will overwork you like crazy at the beginning and the pay will be shit because they know you want to put KPMG on your resume. It will pay off in the long term but you will have to earn it.

West-Side
10-02-2015, 11:42 AM
This is true. I have a good friend that works at KPMG, now in his second or third year. They will overwork you like crazy at the beginning and the pay will be shit because they know you want to put KPMG on your resume. It will pay off in the long term but you will have to earn it.

I know that, and I am willing to put in the work.
It will also be difficult because I'd be concurrently doing my CPA classes.

But the effort is going to be worth it in 5-6 years after.

Jailblazers7
10-02-2015, 11:51 AM
This is true. I have a good friend that works at KPMG, now in his second or third year. They will overwork you like crazy at the beginning and the pay will be shit because they know you want to put KPMG on your resume. It will pay off in the long term but you will have to earn it.

Yeah, my buddy just left KPMG. He was worked to death but it gave him great experience and a fantastic network. I think most people have an exit strategy going in unless they have goals of making partner.

Andrew Wiggins
10-02-2015, 11:52 AM
After the interview, how long did it take them to get back to you with a job offer? Also, did you do co-op? And how did they contact you with the job offer (email, call or letter)?

total process took around 2 weeks from what i remember. there were 3 rounds of interviews and i heard back 5 days after the final interview although the final interviewer indicated that he was going to hire me

DeuceWallaces
10-02-2015, 12:17 PM
Really? I am a little scared because I don't want to seem desperate or a "nag". The fact that the recruiter said after the interview "we will get back to candidates within a week...or two" make me worry that if I do send an email, they will interpret it as me not being able to follow instructions.

I wish my friend never told me that the partner contacted her, I would have been far less nervous and just waited. I think that's why I'm anxious at the moment. Plus it's a life changing job, a lot of pressure.

You already sent two thank you letters. Further contact would be ill-advised. You went through the process, did a good job, and then followed up with a respectful thank you letter. Nagging into hiring is not a successful approach.

They know you want the job and will contact you after they've made their decision. Patience.

West-Side
10-02-2015, 12:36 PM
You already sent two thank you letters. Further contact would be ill-advised. You went through the process, did a good job, and then followed up with a respectful thank you letter. Nagging into hiring is not a successful approach.

They know you want the job and will contact you after they've made their decision. Patience.

Thank you man, really appreciate everyone's advice.
I will patiently wait for their decision.

code green
10-02-2015, 12:58 PM
I wouldn't worry. If your friend is a good employee there, his referral will mean a lot. For the job I'm at now, my friend and I both applied at the same time. I got hired after my first interview, and my buddy got three interviews and wait listed. During our training, our recruiter sat in our conference room to see how his choices were panning out. Since I came in with a certification that the others were studying for, I helped out the group a ton...even staying afterwards to work on some concepts they were having problems with. At the end of the training, I pulled the recruiter aside and told him they'd be missing out if they didn't hire my friend. I made it clear that I hate giving referrals because I hate looking like an idiot if they don't pan out, but I was positive about this guy. They called him two hours later and offered him a position, and he's been one of our best employees ever since.

Good employees are hard to find. If one is willing to vouch for you, it'll mean a lot. You're lucky in the sense that you already have a job; so try to relax in the meantime. Good luck!

niko
10-02-2015, 01:01 PM
Thank you man, really appreciate everyone's advice.
I will patiently wait for their decision.
I'd only contact them if it gets to a point that it's affecting a secondary decision you need to make. At that point I'd follow up. Other than that Deuce is right, wait.

DeuceWallaces
10-02-2015, 01:14 PM
I'd only contact them if it gets to a point that it's affecting a secondary decision you need to make. At that point I'd follow up. Other than that Deuce is right, wait.

Yes, good point. If you have an additional offer contact them again.

But don't do something stupid like fake an additional offer just to get an earlier response. That would be incredibly stupid and will likely blow up in your face.

West-Side
10-02-2015, 01:22 PM
I emailed a thank you letter to the partner Friday, September 25th at 10am.
She replied to me at 10:21am.

"You are welcome [insert my first name]. It was nice to see you. We are working through all of the interviews and hope to be back to you soon.

Have a great weekend,"

Around 1pm that same day, she contacted my friend who is now a Senior Staff Accountant there, my friend immediately contacts me on facebook and tells me about it. Ends up the conversation with "I personally think you have the job."

Pretty much why I'm a nervous wreck.
Had a great weekend, didn't worry at all but as time passes, the waiting game is torturing me.

stalkerforlife
10-02-2015, 01:30 PM
OP, you seem really successful, especially compared to me.

Please help if you can...

PLEASE HELP MY BABIES. GOD BLESS YOU. http://www.gofundme.com/Justin123

TheMan
10-02-2015, 02:54 PM
I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't look good. If they're understaffed, shouldn't they have gotten back to you already? It's been now more than two weeks. I agree with DW, don't badger them, if you're the one they want to hire, you'll hear from them so chill. And it's not the end of the world if you don't get the offer.

Jailblazers7
10-02-2015, 03:00 PM
I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't look good. If they're understaffed, shouldn't they have gotten back to you already? It's been now more than two weeks. I agree with DW, don't badger them, if you're the one they want to hire, you'll hear from them so chill. And it's not the end of the world if you don't get the offer.

More than 2 weeks? It's been 8 days lol

poido123
10-02-2015, 03:05 PM
OP made this thread to blow his own trumpet.


Title of the thread misleading.


Stop being a btch and stop worrying. You have a job already, most of the people you're talking to on here would kill for a good job like yours.


(I have a job)

lil jahlil
10-02-2015, 03:07 PM
I hate waiting on these too.

TheMan
10-02-2015, 03:13 PM
More than 2 weeks? It's been 8 days lol
Oh, my bad...then don't worry bruh. If you don't hear from them this next week, then just move on, you got a job, don't stress it :cheers:

West-Side
10-02-2015, 03:13 PM
OP made this thread to blow his own trumpet.


Title of the thread misleading.


Stop being a btch and stop worrying. You have a job already, most of the people you're talking to on here would kill for a good job like yours.


(I have a job)

Wrong.
I'm legitimately worried.

It's been 8 days since the interview.
7 days since I emailed the partner and since she contacted my reference.
My friend said the turnaround is usually quick for KPMG.
But she also said it might be different circumstances as they might be hiring more positions this time around; so it is more time consuming.

Their last interviews were finished on Tuesday (so 3 days ago).
I'm only extremely anxious because of my friend.
The recruiter said 1-2 week; but she told me by Wed/Thu you should hear if you got it. I guess I'll just listen to the actual recruiter.

ISHGoat
10-02-2015, 03:23 PM
Follow up with the recruiter.

It doesnt matter whether the recruiter thinks you are a nagging SOB. If the partner wants you, youre in, and nothing you say to the recruiter short of really stupid shit like "*** yo mama" can change that.

DeuceWallaces
10-02-2015, 03:32 PM
Follow up with the recruiter.

It doesnt matter whether the recruiter thinks you are a nagging SOB. If the partner wants you, youre in, and nothing you say to the recruiter short of really stupid shit like "*** yo mama" can change that.

That is terrible advice. Very immature.

OP, chill the **** out. Professional hirings can take months. You have no idea what internal processes they must go through before the hiring can be official. Everyone will have a lot of anxiety in your position, but you need to grow up and have some patience.

riseagainst
10-02-2015, 03:34 PM
did they not tell you when they will contact you with their decision? Any professional company will tell you that information.

West-Side
10-02-2015, 03:44 PM
did they not tell you when they will contact you with their decision? Any professional company will tell you that information.

One to two weeks, the recruiter told me right after the interview was over.
Thanks Deuce, I will take your advice man.

I needed to hear the harsh reality.

ISHGoat
10-02-2015, 03:53 PM
That is terrible advice. Very immature.

OP, chill the **** out. Professional hirings can take months. You have no idea what internal processes they must go through before the hiring can be official. Everyone will have a lot of anxiety in your position, but you need to grow up and have some patience.

Private sector hirings are done quickly, especially at this time of the year as the fiscal year is coming to an end. If companies/projects dont push the paperwork through by a certain date, they will lose the budget for the next year. The HR or recruiter might just be jacking off and holding up the paperwork. You have nothing to lose by emailing the recruiter like "whats up"

riseagainst
10-02-2015, 03:53 PM
One to two weeks, the recruiter told me right after the interview was over.
Thanks Deuce, I will take your advice man.

I needed to hear the harsh reality.

truth is, if they told you within a certain amount of time you will hear back, and if they don't contact you, it pretty much means you didn't get it. Companies don't just "forget" someone they want to hire. It's very unprofessional on their part, but that's the reality.

you really don't even need to call/email and ask or follow up after the final interview process is done. Everything is in their hands now and however much asses you kiss or d1cks you suck won't get you the job if they already made up their minds.

9erempiree
10-02-2015, 03:57 PM
Despite me already having a decent job at a bank, I had an interview with KPMG on September 24th. The recruiter said it will take 1-2 weeks to get back to the candidates. I did great on the interview, both with the HR people and with the partner. In fact, one of my close friends who works at KPMG as a Senior said the partner contacted her the next day to talk about me. She said she put in a good word and that she personally thinks I have the job. This was LAST Friday. I sent two thank you letters to the partner and the recruiter. Both got back to me, in fact, the partner got back to me within 20 minutes.

They had interviews on Monday & Tuesday as well. So it's only been 3 days since they finalized all the interviews. I was so excited on Friday but have not heard nothing as of yet. I know KPMG has a quick turn around with the interviews, so I've been a nervous wreck all week.

I do have a job, but I really want to work with KPMG. The career path is brighter and the benefit package is incredible.

My friend also said they are understaffed so she thinks they're looking to fit a few open roles, which could explain the delay. I've been checking my phone/email every 30 minutes since Monday. The anxiety doesn't allow me to focus on anything other then waiting for a response.

Anyone had a similar experience with the Big Four, or any other similar experience waiting to hear about the job?

:(

Why would you want to work for one of the Big 4's? Then again that's just me.

niko
10-02-2015, 08:58 PM
Private sector hirings are done quickly, especially at this time of the year as the fiscal year is coming to an end. If companies/projects dont push the paperwork through by a certain date, they will lose the budget for the next year. The HR or recruiter might just be jacking off and holding up the paperwork. You have nothing to lose by emailing the recruiter like "whats up"
It took more than a month before the company i work for now hired me from the final interview. Not all private sector hirings are fast. Some take months upon end. People are not on a quick timeline to make sure you're not kept waiting. No one cares if you wait.

GimmeThat
10-02-2015, 11:36 PM
from my own experience

if it's going to require training (most entry level positions) then they'd get back to you ASAP if they could


that's the harsh reality I've come to dealt with



I can only imagine that even with every little chess move you made right, someone else is in there making a rebuttal with your flaws

it's a 1-2 week process, so I also wouldn't be too surprised with the person who has the final say needs the additional arguments before making the decision



besides the many reasons as to why I hadn't been hired by too many companies, I also tend to have an attitude that whatever position I'm interested in, I'm going to beat the people at their own game.

Andrew Wiggins
10-03-2015, 02:06 PM
OP made this thread to blow his own trumpet.


Title of the thread misleading.


Stop being a btch and stop worrying. You have a job already, most of the people you're talking to on here would kill for a good job like yours.


(I have a job)

spoken like a loser with an inferiority complex who spends a copious amount of time arguing with 15 year olds on the internet

Clifton
10-03-2015, 02:13 PM
OP you're doing all the right things. Be proactive, call them, send emails or letters, etc. If you're doing that, not only does it relieve your own tension, but it makes you look more interested and more industrious. Good luck.

I hate the period between when you know you're not going to get a job and the time when you're told.

I interviewed for an online teaching job for a homeschool co-op one time and the director was very high on me. I came with a strong recommend from a friend of hers, made a good impression, etc. I was under the impression I had it in the bag so my interview (with her and 4 other people) went so-so. I followed up and everything. But it wasn't until 3 weeks later I saw the courses I was interviewing for listed under another teacher's name. And it wasn't until 4 months later (!) that they formally told me they had decided on somebody else. Ouch!

In retrospect, it's a good thing I didn't get the job, because now I realize I didn't really want it and I don't have time to do it well (on top of my day job). Didn't need the money really. And the organization is sloppy and unprofessional. It was disappointing at the time, but think about it this way: if they don't really want to hire you (and if they do, they won't keep you waiting very long), you're probably not going to enjoy the job that much anyway.

Everyone has to go through it. It sucks but you learn to live with it.

NBAplayoffs2001
10-03-2015, 03:41 PM
One of my friends has a job in a science field at the moment. Despite having a really impressive resume (in my opinion) and graduating with a 3.5 GPA, she had a lot of trouble landing a job. It took her about 3 months to land a job that has great benefits (paid grad school and employer knows that she has thought about going back to school for possibly med school down the line) and is about 50 hours a week. Even if she doesn't go back for med school or something and just gets a masters in a science, she has a job at a place that could really be her career.

She applied to some other job on par with this one (although, I think it was slightly better pay) and she never heard back from them despite interviewing there about 2-3 months ago. They never really let her know if she got a job or not so she kept on looking at her 2nd and 3rd options. She got her second choice and I think works from like 9am to around 6pm, 5 days a week.

It's a really rough process. I ran into a few friends who now work in NYC and one of them said it took him like 2.5 months and countless interviews to finally get a job. He got another really good job as well.

I think in this case though, OP, sounds like you know what you are doing and I know the field you're going into can be lucrative and people who graduate with business degrees that specialize usually have better job opportunities than those with just bachelors in a bio/physical science (although it's a hard degree to maintain, you really need a masters for most job opportunities out there in the science field).

poido123
10-03-2015, 09:10 PM
spoken like a loser with an inferiority complex who spends a copious amount of time arguing with 15 year olds on the internet


Are you one?

I'll stop one right now. :cheers:

senelcoolidge
10-03-2015, 10:13 PM
I had two interviews at the same place on Friday. Later that evening they called me back and offered me the job. I have two jobs now. They still have to do the background checks, but I'm in the clear. :banana: I'm working for a big time hospital.

West-Side
10-07-2015, 12:42 PM
Update

I still haven't received nothing yet, so yesterday I decide to take action.
I wrote a brief email in regards to where they are in the process.

I get this email back from the partner today at noon.

"Hi Ev. Happy thanksgiving almost. We are still finalizing numbers and positions, from what I understand, so although frustrating, I am not surprised that you have not heard anything back yet. I am sure [Manager's Name - Who was apart of the interview] will be in touch once everything is wrapped up. Enjoy the long weekend!".

I'm not sure what this mean, so ambiguous.
This is torture. I pretty much felt like it was over, I didn't get it.
I wrote the email in the morning and all day, I got no response until today.

Now my anxiety is going to kill me again.
How do you guys interpret this email?

By the way, the job is in Toronto, Canada.

Jailblazers7
10-07-2015, 12:51 PM
First you should email her back and say the real thanksgiving isn't until November.

But seriously, I would interpret the email as they haven't made a decision. Just be patient dude. This is not a text message from a girl you are trying to have sex with. No need to over analyze it.

DeuceWallaces
10-07-2015, 01:03 PM
You look like an idiot fawning over these emails.

Jesus christ, you have a job, they're making a decision, just wait.

West-Side
10-29-2015, 11:12 AM
Update

So last week I was contacted by a partner of Enterprise (at KPMG).
Apparently the people that interviewed me thought I was a better fit with Enterprise (dealing with NTR, Reviews, T2's and advisory) since my back ground is in finance. So I had an interview today with the partner, I think it went well. He said he will let me know the decision by mid to late November, as he is going on vacation for 2 weeks so he wanted to meet with me before hand. He mentioned that again to me just before we concluded our interview.
I think we had a good vibe, and he really appreciated me bringing sample work from my current job. Some other positive signs:

- Detailed tour of the office, meeting managers and seniors; as well as the people I'd be directly working with at KPMG Enterprise.
- He mentioned numerous times that I'd be getting paid starting salary, despite of my experience. I said that is fine and even mentioned that I'd even do an "unpaid intership" to work for your firm. He liked that.
- We had a detailed conversation about the starting date. We both agreed that January is suited for both of us.
- The interview went on for an hour, much longer than the 30 minutes I had with the other partner.
- He went into great detail about the actual job. He talked about what type of work I'll be doing and what is expected of me. He told me the do's and don'ts etc.
- He gave me his business card during the interview without me asking about it.
- The interview went well overall; I had answers for all his questions and he liked my questions by saying "That's a good question, I'm glad you asked it."

So, I know I hate waiting (again) but things are looking good for me right?
I mean I doubt a partner would waste his time giving me the tour of the training room, lunch room, introducing me to managers and my direct coworkers.

I'll stay hopeful, and most importantly patient.
Thanks for all of your advice guys.

IGOTGAME
10-30-2015, 12:32 AM
That is terrible advice. Very immature.

OP, chill the **** out. Professional hirings can take months. You have no idea what internal processes they must go through before the hiring can be official. Everyone will have a lot of anxiety in your position, but you need to grow up and have some patience.

Hiring process when I left the private sector took about 2 months. Chill out...it will be fine either way.

West-Side
11-18-2015, 04:32 PM
So I got my official offer letter today. :D
Very excited to start my new job.

I start January 4th, in the Toronto Office.

Velocirap31
11-18-2015, 05:46 PM
Congrats man! I figured this thread bump would be an update from you. Are you walking to work? I've always been a bit jealous of people that get to do that.

West-Side
11-18-2015, 05:53 PM
Congrats man! I figured this thread bump would be an update from you. Are you walking to work? I've always been a bit jealous of people that get to do that.

I'll be probably taking the subway, unless I am going to a clients office.
I am not doing A&A though, I was selected for Advisory role.

So I'll be mostly working from the office, unless I have to visit a client.
Then I'll take my car to the site.

And thanks man, I am excited (and nervous).
KPMG is the fastest growing firm in Canada, they are gaining ground on PWC now in terms of 2nd place.

outbreak
11-18-2015, 05:55 PM
Congratulations.