Is Cristiano Ronaldo The Greatest Scorer in History?

[9erempiree]

For those that don't know....he just surpassed the great Raul as the leading scorer in club history. The club he plays for happens to be the best club in the world.

To be the leading scorer on the best club in the world pretty much makes you the greatest of all time.

Legend.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/02/12/2D02140D00000578-0-image-a-46_1443786812727.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/02/12/2D02254500000578-0-image-a-47_1443786860334.jpg

[West-Side]

The best player on the planet playing on the best club won the CL and La Liga, last year.

[Gr]

That's like saying that Kobe Bryant is the greatest scorer in NBA history.

[fiddy]

No, sit your silly ass down

[9erempiree]

To those that don't understand this feat....here is a long ass video of ALL his goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ahofdhtbE

Enjoy.

Besides Kobe, this soccer player is considered a living legend in the world.

[Andrei89]

Pele

[ThePhantomCreep]

Pele

60's soccer = bro, do you even defense?

Messi is the GOAT scorer. Not much debate there, and I'm hardly a fan.

[East_Stone_Ya]

last time I flew with Turkish Airlines, it was stated in one of their on board magazines that Messi is the greatest scorer

[West-Side]

Ronaldo: 501 goals - 753 appearances (30 years old)
Messi: 467 goals - 597 appearance (28 years old)

Ronaldo has 34 more goals in 156 more matches.
Ronaldo scores .67 goals a match, while Messi scores .78 goals a match.

Who's better? :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

To all my American brothers who don't watch soccer, I will try to explain to you guys what soccer fans and the world says about this player.....

Everyone in the world believes in 'era-specific' players. There will be guys that can't play in certain eras but everyone agrees Cristiano Ronaldo is ahead of his time. He's like a future player.

Here's the club's tribute to him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8HSKMG9YU

[Nick Young]

World Cup Goals matter most. I think it's safe to say Thomas Muller is the GOAT goalscorer.

[9erempiree]

Ronaldo: 501 goals - 753 appearances (30 years old)
Messi: 467 goals - 597 appearance (28 years old)

Ronaldo has 34 more goals in 156 more matches.
Ronaldo scores .67 goals a match, while Messi scores .78 goals a match.

Who's better? :oldlol:

Everyone says Cristiano Ronaldo.

I will roll with what the consensus says.

[GIF REACTION]

Scorers are overrated

Ronaldinho is the best peak footballer of all time

Took a scrub cast to the promised land and won it all

[9erempiree]

Scorers are overrated

Ronaldinho is the best peak footballer of all time

Took a scrub cast to the promised land and won it all

Ronaldinho just quit on his team recently.

He had a falling out with the fans and they booed his ass to the point where he left.

He smiles, comes in, does a few tricks and leaves.

Zero goals in 8 games.

[Andrei89]

60's soccer = bro, do you even defense?

Messi is the GOAT scorer. Not much debate there, and I'm hardly a fan.

THis isnt the NBA! They played football the same in the 60s. Sure, right now they have more training, better nutrition and better coaches so Ronaldo is obviously better than what Pele would be if he time traveled to right now . But, put young Pele in our football system of today and he will grow up to be one of the GOATs again.

What matters the most is that, Pele, in his era, was the best scorer and he outshone everybody.

[BasedTom]

lol @ Penaldo stans

[Nick Young]

THis isnt the NBA! They played football the same in the 60s.
Wrong bozo. They used formations like 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 alot.

South American teams would regularly use suicidal formations with zero tactical organization like 2-2-6 or 2-0-8.

Teams would have guys like sweepers whose job it was to just stand in front of the keeper. Did they even offsides, bro?


The game has changed so much since the 60s. The 4-4-2 was considered a tactical innovation in the 60s.

[WallIn]

He isn't, neither is Messi.

[alenleomessi]

messi is the greatest goalscorer AND playmaker of all time

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[SugarHill]

Not even the best of his own generation

[Smook B]

messi is the greatest goalscorer AND playmaker of all time

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Not biased at all :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

60's soccer = bro, do you even defense?

Messi is the GOAT scorer. Not much debate there, and I'm hardly a fan.

Ronaldo hardly scored in his first 130 appearances, subbed in alot, freelance player... since then his goals per game % has skyrocketed, higher than Messi's with a higher total too, Messi has other areas, but Ronaldo is the GOAT goalscorer.

Yeah, its amazing how much more advanced defenses are nowadays... defenders look badly set up in alot of the older videos, silly looking and it wasn't just always due to Pele.

[ArbitraryWater]

Not even the best of his own generation

stupid thing to say since his generation boasts the 2 greatest players of all time

[raprap]

Maybe. He's the most complete scorer I've seen though. Long shots, headers, penalties and weak foot isn't an issue for him.

[NZStreetBaller]

Does he score epic goals??? Ir are they mostly penalty kick and right in front of the goal type things. Soccer is gay but yeh.

[dannywpt]

Does he score epic goals??? Ir are they mostly penalty kick and right in front of the goal type things. Soccer is gay but yeh.

He has scored many spectacular goals, but nowadays most of his goals are tap-ins and "boring" goals. He's more of a cynical, unstoppable goal scoring machine now. Earlier in his career, when he played as more of a winger, he scored more spectacular goals from long shots and deep runs.

On this subject, I re-watched some of his goals from his career recently and it struck me how many crazy free kick goals he had in his first season at Real. He also had a bunch of great free kicks late in his United career. It feels as if he's barely scored any good free kick goals the last 3-4 seasons.

[ArbitraryWater]

If you want to pick out a season of his most spectacular goals, look no further than 2012, 2013, 2014..

People with no clue about him shouldn't be coming in here to move BS myths like that around. Schnee von gestern.

The funniest thing about all this, Ronaldo has MORE goals from outside the box AND headers than penalties (respectively).

81 pens (90% success mark), 83 headers, 85 outside the box.

Something like that, I'll post the official/correct graphic in a minute.

[fiddy]

stupid thing to say since his generation boasts the 2 greatest players of all time
He absolutely right, you a grupie

[ArbitraryWater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQLKB_xWwAA22Gt.png

goatness

[ArbitraryWater]

He absolutely right, you a grupie

No doubt an opinion to have, but still stupid since it undermines him, when this generation boasts the best individual competition/competitor there is, ever.

[fiddy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQLKB_xWwAA22Gt.png

goatness
Look at those pink shoes, fuсking disgrace :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

Look at those pink shoes, fuсking disgrace :facepalm

jeezuz, you ever offer anything relevant? :lol

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Messi > Ronaldo.

Not close.

[fiddy]

jeezuz, you ever offer anything relevant? :lol
You salty, he cuz fav player is metrosexual?

[ArbitraryWater]

Messi > Ronaldo.

Not close.

Ronaldo > Messi

LeBron > Duncan.

Neither close.

Why? Cause I dun' said so :pimp:

[fiddy]

Ronaldo > Messi

LeBron > Duncan.

Neither close.

Why? Cause I dun' said so :pimp:
You a bitch, your word aint worth shit :banana:

[ArbitraryWater]

You a bitch, your word aint worth shit :banana:

:cheers:

[SugarHill]

stupid thing to say since his generation boasts the 2 greatest players of all time
thatsthejoke

[ArbitraryWater]

thatsthejoke

:kobe:

I know you don't like Ronaldo :D

[SugarHill]

Not thinking he's a top 2 GOAT isn't hating. Only thing I hate about him is his stance for freekicks. He's top 2 of his generation. Only person arguing that would be tom

[Bosnian Sajo]

[QUOTE=Gr

[ArbitraryWater]

...Is that so crazy? :oldlol:





Sounds right to me.

:biggums:

[9erempiree]

In a thread about CR...people still bring up Messi.

:facepalm

[24-Inch_Chrome]

In a thread about CR...people still bring up Messi.

:facepalm

:hammerhead:

If we're refuting your claim that he's the greatest scorer ever we're obviously going to bring up players who are better. Messi is one of them.

[9erempiree]

:hammerhead:

If we're refuting your claim that he's the greatest scorer ever we're obviously going to bring up players who are better. Messi is one of them.
:facepalm

Nobody thinks Messi is better. Only his fanboys.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:facepalm

Nobody thinks Messi is better. Only his fanboys.

Do you enjoy being wrong about everything?

[ballinhun8]

:facepalm

Nobody thinks Ronaldo is better. Only his fanboys.



Fixed.

[9erempiree]

Here it is....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pk_nswuM90

[9erempiree]

He has scored many spectacular goals, but nowadays most of his goals are tap-ins and "boring" goals. He's more of a cynical, unstoppable goal scoring machine now. Earlier in his career, when he played as more of a winger, he scored more spectacular goals from long shots and deep runs.

On this subject, I re-watched some of his goals from his career recently and it struck me how many crazy free kick goals he had in his first season at Real. He also had a bunch of great free kicks late in his United career. It feels as if he's barely scored any good free kick goals the last 3-4 seasons.

He scored fee kick goals this past season. Has yet to score this year.

[9erempiree]

Also there is an international tournament that coincides with the regular season called UEFA Champions League which comprises of all the top teams I Europe and Cristiano Ronaldo also holds that record for mos goals.

[ArbitraryWater]

Also there is an international tournament that coincides with the regular season called UEFA Champions League which comprises of all the top teams I Europe and Cristiano Ronaldo also holds that record for mos goals.

oh yeah, people convienently seem to forget that :lol

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Also there is an international tournament that coincides with the regular season called UEFA Champions League which comprises of all the top teams I Europe and Cristiano Ronaldo also holds that record for mos goals.

He has 5 more goals...in 17 more appearances.

0.77 GPA > 0.70 GPA.

[ArbitraryWater]

He has 5 more goals...in 17 more appearances.

0.77 GPA > 0.70 GPA.

CR wasn't a goalscoring figure in his early '04-'06 years, but he played more matches (while being a sub also) than Messi during those years.

If you want an accurate comparison, do from '07 on, both stepping into their prime and scoring goals, of course Messi was injured for some part of the 2008 season, not in their matchup though.

[ArbitraryWater]

He has 5 more goals...in 17 more appearances.

0.77 GPA > 0.70 GPA.

Just checked again, from 2004-2006 Ronaldo had 1 goal in 21 UCL games, so yeah, his average is on par if not better in context.

And from 2004-2006 he scored 27 goals in 137 matches (2002/2003 for Sporting 5 goals in 31 games)... his GPG's after that, regular minutes and a steady position, are GOAT. Unprecedented.

[alenleomessi]

CR wasn't a goalscoring figure in his early '04-'06 years
messi didnt have a 20+ goal season until the pep era which is 2008-2009
CR had two

[ArbitraryWater]

messi didnt have a 20+ goal season until the pep era which is 2008-2009
CR had two

Thats not exactly the point. Ronaldo played 40 games in 2004, Messi 0. Ronaldo played 50 games in 2005, Messi 9... guess who's % is going to take a bigger hit.

Ronaldo then played 47 games in 2006, Messi 25....

[fiddy]

Thats not exactly the point. Ronaldo played 40 games in 2004, Messi 0. Ronaldo played 50 games in 2005, Messi 9... guess who's % is going to take a bigger hit.

Ronaldo then played 47 games in 2006, Messi 25....
Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me, kind of ironic, knowing that you are a Bran stan :oldlol:

[alenleomessi]

Thats not exactly the point. Ronaldo played 40 games in 2004, Messi 0. Ronaldo played 50 games in 2005, Messi 9... guess who's % is going to take a bigger hit.

Ronaldo then played 47 games in 2006, Messi 25....
thats because CR is 2.5 years older, genius

[ArbitraryWater]

thats because CR is 2.5 years older, genius

what does that have to do with the early years messing up his goals % ? At least, fans usually don't care about that stuff, but I've noticed a trend with the American crowd (West-side, Chrome), who would rely on useless stuff like that.

[fiddy]

what does that have to do with the early years messing up his goals % ? At least, fans usually don't care about that stuff, but I've noticed a trend with the American crowd (West-side, Chrome), who would rely on useless stuff like that.
:roll: :roll:
You are very bright, arent you?

[ArbitraryWater]

fiddy you have a weird obession with me, "discussing" a sport you don't even like :lol

[24-Inch_Chrome]

This dude calling me American? **** off.

I played soccer for 13 years, coached as well, my eyes tell me Messi > Ronaldo. Stats backing it up is just the cherry on top.

[West-Side]

Ronaldo hardly scored in his first 130 appearances, subbed in alot, freelance player... since then his goals per game % has skyrocketed, higher than Messi's with a higher total too, Messi has other areas, but Ronaldo is the GOAT goalscorer.

Yeah, its amazing how much more advanced defenses are nowadays... defenders look badly set up in alot of the older videos, silly looking and it wasn't just always due to Pele.

You truly are a ****ing retard.

[ArbitraryWater]

You truly are a ****ing retard.

thanks, West-Side, your posts are factually factual :cheers: