Cavs moving on from Tristan Thompson. SH**

[imnew09]

Source (http://cavsnation.com/how-cavs-players-and-organization-are-moving-on-from-tristan-thompson/)


"Right now, Thompson is not a part of the team, and everybody knows that."


Props for not bending over.



No excuses

[dubeta]

HUGE loss, the Cavs now have the same team talent wise as the Lakers


Let's see which team can make the playoffs now...

[stalkerforlife]

Bran and his fans would love it if Thompson didn't return.

More LeExcuses for them to lean on.

:roll:

[GIF REACTION]

Can the Cavs pick a few good other players up now? What about that MLE

[Dr Hawk]

Kung needs mroe halp

[FreezingTsmoove]

Cavs are dumb as hell

TT going to get paid

[Trollsmasher]

let's face it, the Cavs totally assfvcked Thompson

that's what you get with big dick GM like LeBron - no bending over to scrubs


Cavs are dumb as hell

TT going to get paid
he can't get paid now after not signing QQ

[morbius]

Can the Cavs pick a few good other players up now? What about that MLE

They have a huge trade exception and a small one. They'll be able to fill any holes that open up during the season.

This Thompson guy really turned out to be total idiot. Cavs can match whoever he signs with and no one will pay him more than Cavs offered. What's he going to do, go play in Europe? No one will break a bank for him over here either.

[SpecialQue]

More LeExcuses for them to lean on.

Wouldn't Lexcuses work better?

[Bankaii]

Rightfully so. Whatever team pays this guy the max is either desperate or dumb.
No offense at all, horrible hands for a pick and roll big, and nothing special on defense.
Besides with Andy and Love back his rebounding won't really be missed.

[Clifton]

Owned.

Cavs' trade exceptions are huge. They can trade for an overpaid player who can fill any hole they have midway through the season. And that overpaid player will probably have 2 or 3 years left on his deal, and they can wait to see what they need.

[HylianNightmare]

Good, he had a good finals when everyone was injured but hasn't he been just average aside from that?

[dhsilv]

I'm no contract expert, but where does this leave Thompson? He either signs the qualifying offer or he hopes a team offers him a contact, which the cavs can match and basically force him back?

What is the logic for Thompson at this point?

[GIF REACTION]

Owned.

Cavs' trade exceptions are huge. They can trade for an overpaid player who can fill any hole they have midway through the season. And that overpaid player will probably have 2 or 3 years left on his deal, and they can wait to see what they need.
Who and what you reckon they need

[ArbitraryWater]

let's face it, the Cavs totally assfvcked Thompson

that's what you get with big dick GM like LeBron - no bending over to scrubs


he can't get paid now after not signing QQ

this..

dude wanted way too much and Cavs weren't having that for a role player who gets offensive rebounds.

Big Dick James came through :applause:

[Legends66NBA7]

Should have paid him.

[RedBlackAttack]

I'm no contract expert, but where does this leave Thompson? He either signs the qualifying offer or he hopes a team offers him a contact, which the cavs can match and basically force him back?

What is the logic for Thompson at this point?
There really isn't any actual logic behind it. This is just Rich Paul hoping that his affiliation with LeBron and the fact that the Cavs don't have any options in free agency meant that he could ask for a super-max contract for Tristan Thompson... which is utterly insane, but obviously Paul thought playing chicken with the Cavs was worth the risk.

Of course, the risks were destroying Thompson's reputation and potentially even hurting his own relationship with LeBron by being such a massive d!ck.

The Cavs' offer still stands... 5 years, $80 million. And, that is more than fair. Take it or leave it, Rich. Good luck getting more money elsewhere.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Top 3 big. Bron didnt give him good head or something

[Rocketswin2013]

Guy has lost all leverage. :oldlol:


No one is going to pay him what he wants. His best bet at getting that money now is holding out until the first of march and essentially re-entering FA. Good luck at that.

Wouldn't be surprised if they knock $10,000,000 off the contract.

[Trollsmasher]

I'm no contract expert, but where does this leave Thompson? He either signs the qualifying offer or he hopes a team offers him a contact, which the cavs can match and basically force him back?

What is the logic for Thompson at this point?
his QO deadline has passed

he either gets the deal The Cavs put on the table, gets an offer from another team that the Cavs will match, or he won't play this season while becoming RFA again next off-season, losing money, value and reputation in the process and only getting even a smaller deal

Rich Paul may be the shittiest agent of all time

[RedBlackAttack]

The Cavs are removing Thompson's likeness from the arena walls and the official team website.

http://i60.tinypic.com/fck6yf.jpg


Nice work Rich, you f#cking scumbag.

[Trollsmasher]

The Cavs are removing Thompson's likeness from the arena walls and the official team website.

http://i60.tinypic.com/fck6yf.jpg


Nice work Rich, you f#cking scumbag.
well, they can't exactly use his pics if he ain't under the deal

like he should be under one by now, but this is just administration, not some bridge burning

[R.I.P.]

his QO deadline has passed

he either gets the deal The Cavs put on the table, gets an offer from another team that the Cavs will match, or he won't play this season while becoming RFA again next off-season, losing money, value and reputation in the process and only getting even a smaller deal

Rich Paul may be the shittiest agent of all time

Agreed. Thompson is a fool. He had to accept the QO. Now he

[kennethgriffin]

TT is the next dennis rodman... dude averaged 5 offensive rebounds per game in the 2015 playoffs.. elite defense too


thats what rodman averaged for the 3peat bulls

[Naero]

Can't believe any player can be so obstinately self-entitled on their own value...

In his defense, I understand where he's coming from, from a psychological vantage point. He's easily one of the hardest-working players on the team; because of that workhorse mentality, he likely feels slighted that his unrelenting hard work wasn't rewarded with as lucrative of a contract as he wanted and thus his pride on the line.

That being said, he also needs to put his GM-thinking cap on to look at the dilemma from another angle...

You can not completely equate hard work to your market value; it also boils down to channeling the work ethic in such a way that he develops a well-rounded flair, and that involves more out-of-game work than what he's evidently expended. He's far too one-dimensional in rebounding, and he needs to exert his effort in more aspects of the game to land the rewardful payout that he wants--especially a well-refined post game.

He just shot himself in the foot, and if the reports are true, LeBron was fostering much of that entitlement on his part with trying to leverage the Cavaliers' FO into such a negotiation.

[RedBlackAttack]

well, they can't exactly use his pics if he ain't under the deal

like he should be under one by now, but this is just administration, not some bridge burning
Yeah, that's all true... but I'm guessing ushering in the ESPN photographer and writer to make it a part of their story today wasn't required by league rules. :oldlol:

It's not bridge burning... just another reminder of how badly Rich Paul has handled this thing.

[kennethgriffin]

Can't believe any player can be so obstinately self-entitled on their own value...

In his defense, I understand where he's coming from, from a psychological vantage point. He's easily one of the hardest-working players on the team; because of that workhorse mentality, he likely feels slighted that his unrelenting hard work wasn't rewarded with as lucrative of a contract as he wanted and thus his pride on the line.

That being said, he also needs to put his GM-thinking cap on to look at the dilemma from another angle...

You can not completely equate hard work to your market value; it also boils down to channeling the work ethic in such a way that he develops a well-rounded flair, and that involves more out-of-game work than what he's evidently expended. He's far too one-dimensional in rebounding, and he needs to exert his effort in more aspects of the game to land the rewardful payout that he wants--especially a well-refined post game.

He just shot himself in the foot, and if the reports are true, LeBron was fostering much of that entitlement on his part with trying to leverage the Cavaliers' FO into such a negotiation.


heres the problem... another team WILL pay thompson the max.


so thompson isnt being greedy. he just wants his market value

[RedBlackAttack]

I heard from someone in the know that the Cavs actually upped their offer to 5 years, $83 million on Thursday in a last ditch effort to get him into camp ... and Paul declined it. :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

if any of us had a job where we got paid 10$ an hour

and we knew we could get 25$ an hour

but our boss will only give us a raise to 20$ an hour

every single one of us would quit and take the job paying 25$ an hour

period. no ifs ands or buts about it.

anyone hating on TT is a hypocrite

[T_L_P]

So he can still take the 5/80 deal the Cavs offered?

[Bankaii]

Yeah, that's all true... but I'm guessing ushering in the ESPN photographer and writer to make it a part of their story today wasn't required by league rules. :oldlol:

It's not bridge burning... just another reminder of how badly Rich Paul has handled this thing.
I honestly think he figured he had leverage because of his ties with Lebron.
Either Lebron didn't support it as heavily because he's trying to get next year or the Cavs simply didn't care.
Either way his arrogance might ruin TT's chances.

[RedBlackAttack]

So he can still take the 5/80 deal the Cavs offered?
Sure.

[GIF REACTION]

But kenneth you haven't worked a day in your life nor will you due to that inheritance money so why should your opinion matter on this topic

[T_L_P]

if any of us had a job where we got paid 10$ an hour

and we knew we could get 25$ an hour

but our boss will only give us a raise to 20$ an hour

every single one of us would quit and take the job paying 25$ an hour

period. no ifs ands or buts about it.

anyone hating on TT is a hypocrite

Except, TT hasn't got another job paying him 25$ an hour.

The Cavs offered him $16 million a year. The only team who has anything close to that in cap room right now are the Trailblazers, with $15.6 million.

So a better analogy is:

You have a job paying $10 an hour

And we knew we could get $20 from said boss but we delude ourselves into believing we could get $21 somewhere else

Boss offers $20 an hour

You quit said job and either go on food stamps because no-one else will employ you or you go to McDonald's for $15 an hour. Or you can eat crow and take the $20 originally offered to you.

Thompson is a complete ****wit. Hopefully he has to go over to Europe for a lot less pay.

[The_Yearning]

5 years 80M for a hustle player and he declines :roll:

[90sgoat]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time. The dude is corrupt and uses his own strength to enrich others, bascially wanting the incompetent Rich Paul (man behind the decision) to get paid through the Cavs wallet.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to deal with Lebron. The guy is such an utter narcisistic scumbag drama queen.

[Cocaine80s]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time. The dude is corrupt and uses his own strength to enrich others, bascially wanting the incompetent Rich Paul (man behind the decision) to get paid through the Cavs wallet.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to deal with Lebron. The guy is such an utter narcisistic scumbag drama queen.
Atleast he didnt get his dad killed over gambling debts

[Smoke117]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time. The dude is corrupt and uses his own strength to enrich others, bascially wanting the incompetent Rich Paul (man behind the decision) to get paid through the Cavs wallet.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to deal with Lebron. The guy is such an utter narcisistic scumbag drama queen.

The pot calling the kettle black.

[Trollsmasher]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time. The dude is corrupt and uses his own strength to enrich others, bascially wanting the incompetent Rich Paul (man behind the decision) to get paid through the Cavs wallet.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to deal with Lebron. The guy is such an utter narcisistic scumbag drama queen.
it seems to me the exactly other way around - LeBron stayed out of it and the Cavs made the correct realization that Rich Paul is an absolute nobody without him in the room

[kennethgriffin]

Except, TT hasn't got another job paying him 25$ an hour.

The Cavs offered him $16 million a year. The only team who has anything close to that in cap room right now are the Trailblazers, with $15.6 million.

So a better analogy is:

You have a job paying $10 an hour

And we knew we could get $20 from said boss but we delude ourselves into believing we could get $21 somewhere else

Boss offers $20 an hour

You quit said job and either go on food stamps because no-one else will employ you or you go to McDonald's for $15 an hour. Or you can eat crow and take the $20 originally offered to you.

Thompson is a complete ****wit. Hopefully he has to go over to Europe for a lot less pay.



wrong.. thompson does have another job making more money. its just that he has to wait a year to get it

and the only way to do that is to keep making his minimum wage for 1 more year



he will get the max. i'm willing to bet 100$ paypal on it

[R.I.P.]

heres the problem... another team WILL pay thompson the max.


so thompson isnt being greedy. he just wants his market value



Not this year. Only 2-3 teams could even offer more than 10 per year like Blazers, Sixers and Jazz, so the Cavs are sitting pretty now with all the leverage.

Next year after possibly sitting out all year his value will be demolished and he

[RedBlackAttack]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time. The dude is corrupt and uses his own strength to enrich others, bascially wanting the incompetent Rich Paul (man behind the decision) to get paid through the Cavs wallet.

I honestly don't see why anyone would want to deal with Lebron. The guy is such an utter narcisistic scumbag drama queen.
This actually has nothing to do with LeBron. He had a chance to leverage himself in the TT contract negotiation by holding out himself until Tristan was signed. He didn't do that, despite reports that he would. LeBron signed a long time ago and publicly said he would completely stay out of the TT thing.

In interviews since this madness started, he has sounded like he backs the Cavs more than anything else.

I'd love to blame this on James, but this is all Rich Paul. I guess LeBron could be blamed in a roundabout way, because the only reason anyone even knows Paul's name is because he grew up in the vicinity of LeBron James, but outside of that ... nah.

[T_L_P]

wrong.. thompson does have another job making more money. its just that he has to wait a year to get it

and the only way to do that is to keep making his minimum wage for 1 more year



he will get the max. i'm willing to bet 100$ paypal on it

Read RIP's post and educate yourself.

[NZStreetBaller]

Bran and his fans would love it if Thompson didn't return.

More LeExcuses for them to lean on.

:roll:

this.

lebron fans spend most of their time trying to discredit Wade Bosh Irving Love etc

[Duderonomy]

Lebron tarts are between a rock in a hard place.
If they say he worth the max then bron did have some talented help in the finals. If they say he isn't it makes Bron's management team look greedy and says he didn't help TT game develop.

Ohhh the choices.

[kennethgriffin]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Not this year. Only 2-3 teams could even offer more than 10 per year like Blazers, Sixers and Jazz, so the Cavs are sitting pretty now with all the leverage.

Next year after possibly sitting out all year his value will be demolished and he

[ralph_i_el]

What if he makes the Cavs match, then plays horrible and doesn't care?

[kennethgriffin]

What if he makes the Cavs match, then plays horrible and doesn't care


you could say this about every player that ever played professional team sports

[buddha]

uh oh.. who's gonna rebound all of LeBron's bricked jumpers now?

[Doranku]

There really isn't any actual logic behind it. This is just Rich Paul hoping that his affiliation with LeBron and the fact that the Cavs don't have any options in free agency meant that he could ask for a super-max contract for Tristan Thompson... which is utterly insane, but obviously Paul thought playing chicken with the Cavs was worth the risk.

Of course, the risks were destroying Thompson's reputation and potentially even hurting his own relationship with LeBron by being such a massive d!ck.

The Cavs' offer still stands... 5 years, $80 million. And, that is more than fair. Take it or leave it, Rich. Good luck getting more money elsewhere.

It's kind of obnoxious how you squarely place the blame on Rich Paul and act like TT is under his spell or something.

At the end of the day, if TT wanted to sign with the Cavs, he would have by now. But he hasn't... because he wants the money.

[RedBlackAttack]

It's kind of obnoxious how you squarely place the blame on Rich Paul and act like TT is under his spell or something.

At the end of the day, if TT wanted to sign with the Cavs, he would have by now. But he hasn't... because he wants the money.
TT isn't under a spell. I've never liked the fact that Rich Paul was his agent. This is what he does. No different from what the Suns went through with Eric Bledsoe.

I never had any illusions that Bledsoe was the one balking at the Suns' offers and setting his own value above where it should have been, though. That was Paul.

So yes... Tristan knew what he was getting in Rich Paul and he could put a stop to all of this right now if he really wanted to. But at the same time, Rich Paul is running this sh!t show.

[Clifton]

Lol this is basically Cavs smacking Lebron across the mouth. Lebron has been behind this holdout the entire time.
I'm not so sure any more. Lebron accepted his contract offer months ago, before TT was signed. That was a signal that he was satisfied and ready to move forward, and that he's no longer colluding. TT should have followed suit. Remember that Lebron is structuring his deals so that the Cavs have to convince him to re-sign every year.

If Lebron was that serious about TT and Rich Paul getting max dollars, he would have held out.

I think Lebron may have even given his ok and that TT is out of luck. He probably doesn't appreciate TT being ridiculous and f*cking with his team, when the original offer was more than sufficient and is almost what All-Star Kevin Love is making.

[poido123]

The Cavs are removing Thompson's likeness from the arena walls and the official team website.

http://i60.tinypic.com/fck6yf.jpg


Nice work Rich, you f#cking scumbag.


Somebody is mad :oldlol:


Bad things happen when you let an immature clown like LEbron play GM of this team.

First losing all the young players, then the untimely injuries last year and now Tristan could possibly leave.


It's a circus down there in Cleveland :applause:

[poido123]

Is he really leaving though?

Nobody is paying Tristan that much and I strongly doubt he would sit out the season.

[Jameerthefear]

Somebody is mad :oldlol:


Bad things happen when you let an immature clown like LEbron play GM of this team.

First losing all the young players, then the untimely injuries last year and now Tristan could possibly leave.


It's a circus down there in Cleveland :applause:
That has 0 to do with this you ****ing moron.

[poido123]

That has 0 to do with this you ****ing moron.


As I said, bad things started to happen slowly in Cleveland when Lebron came back.

Whether it was his fault directly or indirectly, he has contributed to the mess.

[Jameerthefear]

As I said, bad things started to happen slowly in Cleveland when Lebron came back.

Whether it was his fault directly or indirectly, he has contributed to the mess.
Yeah. Bad things like going from a lottery team to making the finals. Yep.

[Jameerthefear]

Like seriously, this is all Rich Paul.

[poido123]

Yeah. Bad things like going from a lottery team to making the finals. Yep.


Mortgaged their future to make a finals appearance?

I'm sold :oldlol:


It might pay off, but they should never of let go of Wiggins.

[Jameerthefear]

Mortgaged their future to make a finals appearance?

I'm sold :oldlol:


It might pay off, but they should never of let go of Wiggins.
Cleveland has never won a championship in franchise history. Unless you're drafting Lebron James his ****ing self then you take the opportunity to be a finals contender for ~5 years. I can't believe you're this stupid.

[poido123]

Cleveland has never won a championship in franchise history. Unless you're drafting Lebron James his ****ing self then you take the opportunity to be a finals contender for ~5 years. I can't believe you're this stupid.



They didn't have to trade away Wiggins you dumb fck. The team was better with him there.

:hammerhead:

[Cocaine80s]

They didn't have to trade away Wiggins you dumb fck. The team was better with him there.

:hammerhead:
Right, like Wiggins had some monster rookie season

[Uncle Drew]

Poido might be just as stupid as 20Four. Congrats. Quite an achievement.

[Cocaine80s]

Poido might be just as stupid as 20Four. Congrats. Quite an achievement.
Dude is almost as retarded as D Rose

[Jameerthefear]

They didn't have to trade away Wiggins you dumb fck. The team was better with him there.

:hammerhead:
How do you know that? How many games did you see Wiggins in a CLE uniform?

[RedBlackAttack]

Somebody is mad :oldlol:


Bad things happen when you let an immature clown like LEbron play GM of this team.

First losing all the young players, then the untimely injuries last year and now Tristan could possibly leave.


It's a circus down there in Cleveland :applause:
I don't get how it is a "circus." The Cavs are navigating luxury tax landmines. First, it was JR Smith who thought David Griffin was just going to give him a huge contract because he played well for half a season. He was wrong and, after opting out, he ended up having to crawl back with his tail between his legs and take less than his opt-in would have been.

That was actually funny.

Now, it is Tristan Thompson. His agent is overestimating his value and banking on the fact that the Cavs' hands are tied in terms of salary and replacing his value. But, they aren't giving in. They're basically telling Tristan to take their offer or go find more somewhere else.

Love is a max player and he got the max.

LeBron is a max player and he got the max.

The only contract you might be able to question is Shumpert's, but I had no problem with it considering his age and his value as a perimeter defender.

The biggest issue coming into this offseason was Kevin Love by a country mile. And, not only did he sign a contract quickly, but he signed longterm which no one saw coming.

Yeah, this thing with Thompson is ridiculous mainly due to Rich Paul, but the minute Love signed his extension, this offseason was a major win for the Cavs.

[bluechox2]

so your telling me they could of had wiggins and signed love to a max this offseason anyway, still with no trophy...dammmm they messed up

[poido123]

Poido might be just as stupid as 20Four. Congrats. Quite an achievement.



How's it working out for you now?

People were already saying Lebron coming back playing GM would ultimately ruin things. His usual lies to the media, how he's gonna be patient and ride with the young team etc etc.

The Wiggins trade happened and nearly everyone outside of Cavs fans thought it was a big mistake.

Oh well, no ring for you guys. You did your level best to piss it all away though :oldlol:

Cleveland stays Cleveland.

[RedBlackAttack]

They didn't have to trade away Wiggins you dumb fck. The team was better with him there.

:hammerhead:
I didn't want to trade Wiggins, mainly because there was no guarantee that Love would re-sign here (that's no longer a worry) ... but anyone who thinks Wiggins in place of Love makes the Cavs better is out of their minds.

[Uncle Drew]

How's it working out for you now?

People were already saying Lebron coming back playing GM would ultimately ruin things. His usual lies to the media, how he's gonna be patient and ride with the young team etc etc.

The Wiggins trade happened and nearly everyone outside of Cavs fans thought it was a big mistake.

Oh well, no ring for you guys. You did your level best to piss it all away though :oldlol:

Cleveland stays Cleveland.
Cool story.

Have fun in yet another 2nd round exit season!

[bluechox2]

I didn't want to trade Wiggins, mainly because there was no guarantee that Love would re-sign here (that's no longer a worry) ... but anyone who thinks Wiggins in place of Love makes the Cavs better is out of their minds.
well...they did go to the finals without love...he was just a luxury that was never used...imagine having a young athletic wiggins out there for the finals to run and hustle

[poido123]

Ok done trolling.


Cleveland made the right decision. They had to go all in.


Lebron is trying his level best to fck everything up though with the GM thing...



Cleveland will be fine

[Akrazotile]

Cavs are dumb as hell

TT going to get paid


By whom? And why?

[poido123]

I didn't want to trade Wiggins, mainly because there was no guarantee that Love would re-sign here (that's no longer a worry) ... but anyone who thinks Wiggins in place of Love makes the Cavs better is out of their minds.


Depends how you rate Love's impact.

I'm very low on Kevin.

Wiggins would of had a fast track lesson playing in a contending team. Who knows how good he would be now had he stayed there.

We know he can play defense and in the open court with LEbron, that would be unstoppable.

[imdaman99]

I think trading Wiggins was a mistake...however, it's not like he would have had a chance to develop on a championship level team.

[kennethgriffin]

By whom? And why?


tristan thompson is a defensive rebounding anchor

he mastered the art of rebounding skill

the tap to self skill was used by dennis rodman

his positioning/boxing out is 2nd to none

he averaged 5 offensive rebounds per game in the 2015 playoffs ( same as dennis rodman for the 3peat bulls )

he single handedly transformed the cavs from a purely offensive team into one of the best defensive team in the nba playoffs



hes worth the money. and he'l get it from a team with cap room next offseason

[Jameerthefear]

I think trading Wiggins was a mistake...however, it's not like he would have had a chance to develop on a championship level team.
Exactly, and Love fits better.

[poido123]

Cool story.

Have fun in yet another 2nd round exit season!


You should know by now that I rustle Jimmies before the start of a season. :lol


Good luck to your team and fans, Bulls coming at ya :cheers:

[Uncle Drew]

tristan thompson is a defensive rebounding anchor

he mastered the art of rebounding skill

the tap to self skill was used by dennis rodman

his positioning/boxing out is 2nd to none

he averaged 5 offensive rebounds per game in the 2015 playoffs ( same as dennis rodman for the 3peat bulls )

he single handedly transformed the cavs from a purely offensive team into one of the best defensive team in the nba playoffs



hes worth the money. and he'l get it from a team with cap room next offseason:roll:

He's average at every aspect of the game. Yes, his switching on the P&R is nice, but he's not even a great rim protector. Him declining 80 plus million is one of the most hilarious things ever.

[kennethgriffin]

:roll:

He's average at every aspect of the game. Yes, his switching on the P&R is nice, but he's not even a great rim protector. Him declining 80 plus million is one of the most hilarious things ever.


there is no such thing as a cavs nba finals appearance in 2015 without tristan thompson



you'd be hyping the sh*t outa the cavs if thompson signed a long term extension

[Akrazotile]

tristan thompson is a defensive rebounding anchor

he mastered the art of rebounding skill

the tap to self skill was used by dennis rodman

his positioning/boxing out is 2nd to none

he averaged 5 offensive rebounds per game in the 2015 playoffs ( same as dennis rodman for the 3peat bulls )

he single handedly transformed the cavs from a purely offensive team into one of the best defensive team in the nba playoffs



hes worth the money. and he'l get it from a team with cap room next offseason

He had a nice lil playoff run in a circumstance that was perfectly tailored for him to shine. There are plenty of guys who've done this kind of thing on championship teams before; Udonis Haslem, Tyson Chandler, Birdman Andersen... none of these guys got anywhere close to getting "PAID" (Chandler got a nice contract but a reasonable one).

You're honestly gonna tell me TT is significantly better than guys like Reggie Evans or Birdman? Do you remember the run the Heat went on once they acquired Birdman? They reeled off like 29 wins in 31 games or something and won the chip. Bird got like a 2 year, 5 million dollar extension for his efforts.

Thompson was the right fit at the right time. That doesn't mean it's smart to overpay him. ESPECIALLY for other teams. You're gonna give Cristian Thompson max starter money and expect to compete for a chip if you're the Raptors? YOu're gonna be a title contender anchord by Cristian Thompson, and wind defenders without having Lebron?

I don't think so.

[Akrazotile]

there is no such thing as a cavs nba finals appearance in 2015 without tristan thompson



you'd be hyping the sh*t outa the cavs if thompson signed a long term extension


Past-prime Alonzo Mourning was a very key contributor for the Heat's chip with Wade and Shaq.

Nobody went and gave him a max at 35 years old becuase of it.

Just because Thompson filled that role last year doesn't mean nobody else can, and for significantly less :hammerhead:

[poido123]

He had a nice lil playoff run in a circumstance that was perfectly tailored for him to shine. There are plenty of guys who've done this kind of thing on championship teams before; Udonis Haslem, Tyson Chandler, Birdman Andersen... none of these guys got anywhere close to getting "PAID" (Chandler got a nice contract but a reasonable one).

You're honestly gonna tell me TT is significantly better than guys like Reggie Evans or Birdman? Do you remember the run the Heat went on once they acquired Birdman? They reeled off like 29 wins in 31 games or something.

Thompson was the right fit at the right time. That doesn't mean it's smart to overpay him. ESPECIALLY for other teams. You're gonna give Cristian Thompson max starter money and expect to compete for a chip? YOu're gonna be a title contender anchord by Cristian Thompson, and wind defenders?

I don't think so.


Tristan, it's Fcking Tristan :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Uncle Drew]

there is no such thing as a cavs nba finals appearance in 2015 without tristan thompson



you'd be hyping the sh*t outa the cavs if thompson signed a long term extension
I wouldn't. Im hyping the sh*t outa the cavs regardless. I've seen Tristan since his rookie season and he's nothing special. In fact, what player changes shooting hands DURING their career? None.

In today's NBA, where bigs need to actually shoot and provide spacing, TT is as useless as they come.

And stop hyping his defense. He was among the worst rim protectors in the ENTIRE league a year ago.

I'll bet you that no team is going to throw him an offer sheet with actual intentions of signing him. Not one.

[Akrazotile]

Tristan, it's Fcking Tristan :hammerhead: :hammerhead:



oh shit, for real!?

[GIF REACTION]

Love is so much more important.

[poido123]

I don't get how it is a "circus." The Cavs are navigating luxury tax landmines. First, it was JR Smith who thought David Griffin was just going to give him a huge contract because he played well for half a season. He was wrong and, after opting out, he ended up having to crawl back with his tail between his legs and take less than his opt-in would have been.

That was actually funny.

Now, it is Tristan Thompson. His agent is overestimating his value and banking on the fact that the Cavs' hands are tied in terms of salary and replacing his value. But, they aren't giving in. They're basically telling Tristan to take their offer or go find more somewhere else.

Love is a max player and he got the max.

LeBron is a max player and he got the max.

The only contract you might be able to question is Shumpert's, but I had no problem with it considering his age and his value as a perimeter defender.

The biggest issue coming into this offseason was Kevin Love by a country mile. And, not only did he sign a contract quickly, but he signed longterm which no one saw coming.

Yeah, this thing with Thompson is ridiculous mainly due to Rich Paul, but the minute Love signed his extension, this offseason was a major win for the Cavs.



That was actually a really smart move. They knew Smith wasn't going anywhere and certainly no better place to contend. Spurs and Warriors wouldn't take him, that's for sure.

I don't like that guy, I look forward to the day that JR retires and loses all his money because he's an idiot.

[kennethgriffin]

Past-prime Alonzo Mourning was a very key contributor for the Heat's chip with Wade and Shaq.

Nobody went and gave him a max at 35 years old becuase of it.

Just because Thompson filled that role last year doesn't mean nobody else can, and for significantly less :hammerhead:

youre on drugs



alonzo mourning averaged 4 points /3 rebounds / 0 offensive rebounds/ 0 steals/ 1 block in 11 minutes per game during the 2006 finals

tristan thompson averaged 10 points/ 13 rebounds/ 5 offensive rebounds/ 1 steal/ 1 block and played 41 minutes per game in the 2015 finals



:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[poido123]

oh shit, for real!?


:oldlol:

It just bugs me. No biggie though

[Smoke117]

Kenny has absolutely no ability to analyze players...it's quite amusing. He keeps bringing up that Thompson is comparable to Rodman...he isn't. He keeps mentioning that he's some great defensive player...he isn't. They got better defensively when Mosgov showed up...if TT is so good defensively than why wasn't that impact felt during the regular season? He played enough that if he actually was an impact worthy defensive player it would have showed. The problem? He isn't. He's a 10/10 player with above average defense who wants star money...he is out of his damn mind.

[rzp]

Tristan, it's Fcking Tristan :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

learn sarcasm...

[dhsilv]

tristan thompson is a defensive rebounding anchor

he mastered the art of rebounding skill

the tap to self skill was used by dennis rodman

his positioning/boxing out is 2nd to none

he averaged 5 offensive rebounds per game in the 2015 playoffs ( same as dennis rodman for the 3peat bulls )

he single handedly transformed the cavs from a purely offensive team into one of the best defensive team in the nba playoffs



hes worth the money. and he'l get it from a team with cap room next offseason


Rodman at an 18.3% offensive rebound rate to thompson's 13.5% rate. Or said another way he was 37% better at getting offensive rebounds than Thompson. That isn't remotely close....

[kennethgriffin]

Kenny has absolutely no ability to analyze players...it's quite amusing. He keeps bringing up that Thompson is comparable to Rodman...he isn't. He keeps mentioning that he's some great defensive player...he isn't. They got better defensively when Mosgov showed up...if TT is so good defensively than why wasn't that impact felt during the regular season? He played enough that if he actually was an impact worthy defensive player it would have showed. The problem? He isn't. He's a 10/10 player with above average defense who wants star money...he is out of his damn mind.


thompsons offensive rebounds per game in the finals = 5.3 ( 13.0 overall ) with 10ppg scoring

rodmans offensive rebounds per game from 96-98 = 4.4 ( 11.3 overall ) with 5ppg scoring

[dubnation]

:oldlol:

It just bugs me. No biggie though

:roll: this guy really is stupid

[Cocaine80s]

:roll: this guy really is stupid
Dude is probably unaware of the thread. He disappeared from ish after the bulls got owned so he probably missed it

[Akrazotile]

youre on drugs



alonzo mourning averaged 4 points /3 rebounds / 0 offensive rebounds/ 0 steals/ 1 block in 11 minutes per game during the 2006 finals

tristan thompson averaged 10 points/ 13 rebounds/ 5 offensive rebounds/ 1 steal/ 1 block and played 41 minutes per game in the 2015 finals



:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


Maybe Zo's impact in the finals doesn't jump out on paper but I do distinctly remember he was a very nice contributor as a rotation guy throughout their playoff run. Maybe the stats don't bear it out but I remember what I saw.

And there's lots of guys like this. Remember how clutch Big Baby and PJ Brown were for Boston when they won? McDyess was a nice bench big for Detroit during their runs etc. You don't need to pay Thompson 95 million dollars to bring energy off the bench :facepalm

Thompson's offensive rebounding stats also partially reflect the fact that the Cavs shot 38% in the finals. And the fact that he played more minutes than he normally would because they were missing Love. If Love is healthy they get much more offense out of him and rely much less on Thompson's rebounds.

[DoctorP]

Thompson > Love

[poido123]

learn sarcasm...


I'm a literal thinker.


I do miss sarcasm a lot, but learned to pick up on it over time...


I guess you can call that stupid :rolleyes:

[poido123]

Dude is probably unaware of the thread. He disappeared from ish after the bulls got owned so he probably missed it


I left for a month.


The thread does ring a bell yes.

Do I follow ISH close enough and have time like the kids here to keep up with everything? Probably not.

[inclinerator]

But kenneth you haven't worked a day in your life nor will you due to that inheritance money so why should your opinion matter on this topic
:roll:

[Doranku]

Cavs fans clinging to the hope that KLove will be enough. :roll:

A whole year and they still can't see he's an empty stat producing loser.

[Lebron23]

Good move by the Cavaliers. They should have sign Ed Davis who's putting up the same productions of Thompson.

[Lebron23]

LMAO at Kennethgriffin overrating Tristan Thompson. He was just another 11/9 type of guy who failed to led his team in the playoffs without LeBron.

Now he'll rethinks his poor decisions, and I expect him to accept the Cavs qualifying offers. But still **** Tristiana Thompson.

[poido123]

LMAO at Kennethgriffin overrating Tristan Thompson. He was just another 11/9 type of guy who failed to led his team in the playoffs without LeBron.

Now he'll rethinks his poor decisions, and I expect him to accept the Cavs qualifying offers. But still **** Tristiana Thompson.


Cavs weren't getting past Bulls last playoffs without Tristan.

Lebron is a good player, but don't assume he doesn't need certain players around him to be successful.

[Cocaine80s]

Cavs weren't getting past Bulls last playoffs without Tristan.

Lebron is a good player, but don't assume he doesn't need certain players around him to be successful.
Well no shit, they were missing their star PF

[Lebron23]

Well no shit, they were missing their star PF


This

Ed Davis can easily replace him. http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/307/files/2015/02/ed-davis-nba-los-angeles-lakers-denver-nuggets1.jpg

Nice Steal by Blazers. Ed averaged 8 ppg, 8 rpg, and 1.2 bpg last season. Those are Tristan Thompson numbers.

[imnew09]

LMAO at Kennethgriffin overrating Tristan Thompson. He was just another 11/9 type of guy who failed to led his team in the playoffs without LeBron.

Now he'll rethinks his poor decisions, and I expect him to accept the Cavs qualifying offers. But still **** Tristiana Thompson.


Dont downgrade TT man. Great defender and offensive rebounder. Besides he's been adjusting his freethrows

But I do also believe he is going to accept the offer. FK his agent, not him

[NattyPButter]

lolz what a dumbass...His rebounding looked good the past few years because he was getting his own missed shots and when his shot got blocked and fell back in his hands they counted it as a rebound.

[JellyBean]

I don't blame the Cavs. TT acts like he is THE team. I understand he wants to get paid. But jeez! $12-$16 a year, or whatever the Cavs last offer was, would have been cool. But he refused the $6.8 for the year, which is great money. He could have took that deal and then once the season was over, started talks again. Hopefully during the season, he could have made his case better for more money. Again, if a team is offering me $10-$16 million to put up 12/10, I would have took that deal.

[Derka]

Fire your agent, kid. Right now.

[midatlantic09]

Serious question: Why would anyone hire Rich Paul to be their agent?

I'm aware that he's Lebron's agent, but Lebron pretty much gets whatever he wants (with or without an agent) simply due to being a 4-time NBA MVP and a future HOFer. However, if you're not a superstar and will need a strong negotiator to get you the best deal possible, why on earth hire this Paul guy?

I'm truly baffled.

[All Net]

Time for TT to settle and soon.

[Beastmode88]

Lmao TT is a dumbass if he decides to stall any longer. Rich Paul needs to go, dude's a bench warmer and he wants the max? Why the hell do they need TT when they have love. Literally TT has no leverage over the cavs seeing how no one is going to pay him. Hold the L.

[Jameerthefear]

Serious question: Why would anyone hire Rich Paul to be their agent?

I'm aware that he's Lebron's agent, but Lebron pretty much gets whatever he wants (with or without an agent) simply due to being a 4-time NBA MVP and a future HOFer. However, if you're not a superstar and will need a strong negotiator to get you the best deal possible, why on earth hire this Paul guy?

I'm truly baffled.
Because Paul did the same thing to PHX with Bledsoe and got his way.

[Beastmode88]

Because Paul did the same thing to PHX with Bledsoe and got his way.

U think gilbert wants to increase luxury tax to up to almost quarter billion dollars for a bench warmer? Lol. TT hustles in the paint but wont give u anything else.

[Dro]

I'd do the same thing. Would you give Dale Davis that much money? Nope. I wouldn't give it to Thompson either...

[dubnation]

U think gilbert wants to increase luxury tax to up to almost quarter billion dollars for a bench warmer? Lol. TT hustles in the paint but wont give u anything else.

Pretty sure he agrees with you, as do I. He was just responding to your question about RP. F*ck that guy

[Straight_Ballin]

Cavs are dumb as hell

TT going to get paid

The front office is just like the typical Cleveland apologist. Clueless and not able to make correct decisions just like your typical Clevelander.

A bunch of losers living in a shitty, snowy, cold city with an overcast that hasn't won anything for 150+ combined seasons of sports.

[I<3NBA]

can the Cavs low blow him and lower their offer when TT doesn't get any other offers and he comes back to them wanting to go back?

or are they bound to give him the QO they offered?

[All Net]

The front office is just like the typical Cleveland apologist. Clueless and not able to make correct decisions just like your typical Clevelander.

A bunch of losers living in a shitty, snowy, cold city with an overcast that hasn't won anything for 150+ combined seasons of sports.
What an idiotic post

Cavs are losers for not giving a role player a max contract? Glad you don't run my sports team

[Straight_Ballin]

What an idiotic post

Cavs are losers for not giving a role player a max contract? Glad you don't run my sports team

Cavs have always been losers. Gilbert has the funds. This guy preaches about bringing a chip to Cleveland but when TT's agent calls the bluff, the front office folds.

[wakencdukest]

Serious question: Why would anyone hire Rich Paul to be their agent?

I'm aware that he's Lebron's agent, but Lebron pretty much gets whatever he wants (with or without an agent) simply due to being a 4-time NBA MVP and a future HOFer. However, if you're not a superstar and will need a strong negotiator to get you the best deal possible, why on earth hire this Paul guy?

I'm truly baffled.



He probably wouldn't be an agent if LeBron didn't hire him. He got lucky.

[RedBlackAttack]

I don't like making threads unless it is something that absolutely warrants it (official news).

That being said, I've now heard from two inside sources within the Cavs' community that have a track record of breaking stories before they happen that this baby is over.

There's a deal in place and it could be announced sometime in the next 24 hours.

[dubnation]

I don't like making threads unless it is something that absolutely warrants it (official news).

That being said, I've now heard from two inside sources within the Cavs' community that have a track record of breaking stories before they happen that this baby is over.

There's a deal in place and it is likely to be announced sometime in the next 24 hours.

Can we assume its the 5/80 deal or something close?

[RedBlackAttack]

Can we assume its the 5/80 deal or something close?
It would be just guesswork on my part, but I'd say yes... I doubt the Cavs are the ones moving closer to Tristan's $94 million demand. I would put my money on Rich Paul moving toward the Cavs' 5/80 offer. Keep in mind that I also heard from good sources that the Cavs actually upped it to 5/82 a few days ago. That would probably be my guess if I had to pick a number.

We'll find out soon enough.

[DaOldLion]

4 max players on the same team is ridiculous

[chips93]

4 max players on the same team is ridiculous

this wont be a max contract for tristan

regardless, dan gilbert has ridiculous money. He comes across as a clown, but his financial commitment to the cavs cant be questioned.

the only reason we got a chance to kyrie was because he essentially paid the clippers 8 million for a pick that was slated to go 8th.

[RedBlackAttack]

The other thing is, a couple years from now, a contract starting at $16 million a year will be a dime a dozen in the NBA. We're at a tipping point right now and Tristan just happened to be expiring at the right time, financially.

If we had to re-sign Love and Kyrie two years from now, the pricetag would be stratospheric.

[DaOldLion]

this wont be a max contract for tristan

regardless, dan gilbert has ridiculous money. He comes across as a clown, but his financial commitment to the cavs cant be questioned.

the only reason we got a chance to kyrie was because he essentially paid the clippers 8 million for a pick that was slated to go 8th.

Wasn't Gilbert like one of the main leaders in trying to get the Cp3 trade vetoed due to it being "unfair"? And didn't we just have a lock out like less than 4 years ago because role players were getting overpaid..

fast forward about 4 years and Gilbert has 4 max players on his team and is throwing a max deal at a (very good) role player..


Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.

seems pretty hypocritical.. other than not saving money Gilbert is doing basically the same thing as the Lakers wanted to do.. look at how shook he was at the thought of the Lakers getting another great player besides Paul.. but I guess it's okay for him to have 4 of the best 15 players in the conference by just throwing his money around?

Isn't that what they've been trying to stop big market teams from doing for ages now with the rookie contracts that give the team they were drafted by the best chance at signing them after their initial deal is up.. the lockout was for nothing..

[RedBlackAttack]

Wasn't Gilbert like one of the main leaders in trying to get the Cp3 trade vetoed due to it being "unfair"? And didn't we just have a lock out like less than 4 years ago because role players were getting overpaid..

fast forward about 4 years and Gilbert has 4 max players on his team and is throwing a max deal at a (very good) role player..


seems pretty hypocritical.. other than not saving money Gilbert is doing basically the same thing as the Lakers wanted to do.. look at how shook he was at the thought of the Lakers getting another great player besides Paul.. but I guess it's okay for him to have 4 of the best 15 players in the conference by just throwing his money around?

Isn't that what they've been trying to stop big market teams from doing for ages now with the rookie contracts that give the team they were drafted by the best chance at signing them after their initial deal is up.. the lockout was for nothing..

He's going to pay a heavy price for this salary figure. Very few owners would be willing to pay the luxury tax that is going to befall Gilbert in the years to come. He's partly responsible for creating the CBA that will be hitting him hard.

So, I think it is more irony than hypocrisy. It would be hypocritical if he were complaining about the luxury tax.


Is it hypocritical in the sense that he was trying to prevent Super Teams from becoming the free agency trend and now he's built a Super Team partly because of free agency? I guess ... but I'm pretty sure every owner in the league is looking out for their own interests depending on where they are on the totem pole.

[JT123]

He's going to pay a heavy price for this salary figure. Very few owners would be willing to pay the luxury tax that is going to befall Gilbert in the years to come. He's partly responsible for creating the CBA that will be hitting him hard.

So, I think it is more irony than hypocrisy. It would be hypocritical if he were complaining about the luxury tax.


Is it hypocritical in the sense that he was trying to prevent Super Teams from becoming the free agency trend and now he's built a Super Team partly because of free agency? I guess ... but I'm pretty sure every owner in the league is looking out for their own interests depending on where they are on the totem pole.
:coleman: All the Cavs best players were drafted by the team, except Love who was acquired via trade. This team was built the right way :no:

[RedBlackAttack]

:coleman: All the Cavs best players were drafted by the team, except Love who was acquired via trade. This team was built the right way :no:
Ahhh... LeBron James was a free agent. :oldlol:

And Kevin Love was only made available because of his impending free agency and imminent departure.

[BasedTom]

redbroussardattack :lol

sad thing is his sources are probably more legitimate

[RedBlackAttack]

redbroussardattack :lol

sad thing is his sources are probably more legitimate
Well, I'll just put it like this... remember when everyone was tracking Dan Gilbert's private jet during the LeBron madness last summer? That all started with a post on a private Cavs forum by a supposed insider. From there, it spread like wildfire onto Twitter and other media platforms, but we may have never known anything about it if not for this one guy making a single post in a Cavs' message board.

And, it was 100% true. Even Dan Gilbert has laughed about how he is going to have to watch releasing his flight plan in the future.

The other insider who is saying it is a done deal is the same one who told me a couple weeks prior to LeBron making his return to Cleveland official that it was done (which I posted on here about 10 days before the announcement).



To your point, I'd bet $1,000 that my information is way more accurate than Broussard's and I'm being totally serious. If there was a way to bet on myself against him, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Of course, that isn't saying much. :oldlol:

I'm completely confident in these guys.

[G-train]

What an idiotic post

Cavs are losers for not giving a role player a max contract? Glad you don't run my sports team

There's role players and there is role players.
Delly is a role player.
TT is a NBA starting power forward 'role player' who IMO will get $94m, which will be typical good starter money in the new CBA.

RBA's sources could be correct, but I think the number will be higher than $82m.
I think it's the $94m, but maybe could see it being 90-94 range also.

[LBJFTW]

I'm completely confident in these guys.

Who? Windhorst? Is that your source?

[DukeDelonte13]

Who? Windhorst? Is that your source?


windhorst does have a connection to RCF but windy just did a podcast was lowe and doesn't have any clue what's going to happen with the deal.

[RedBlackAttack]

Who? Windhorst? Is that your source?
Windhorst is saying exactly the opposite, so I guess we'll see.

He also said (1) LeBron would only consider coming back to Cleveland if Kyrie were traded and (2) it was "known" that Kyrie and his family wanted out of Cleveland (he promptly signed a max extension).

His recent track record with Cavs' related stories is not good. Like I said, we'll see what happens. I'm just telling you what I've heard.

[SwishSquared]

It would be just guesswork on my part, but I'd say yes... I doubt the Cavs are the ones moving closer to Tristan's $94 million demand. I would put my money on Rich Paul moving toward the Cavs' 5/80 offer. Keep in mind that I also heard from good sources that the Cavs actually upped it to 5/82 a few days ago. That would probably be my guess if I had to pick a number.

We'll find out soon enough.I saw yesterday I think on r/nba that TT's gear was put back onto the Cavs' website (may have been early this morning).

Also, I don't know if you listen to the Dunc'd On Podcast, but he had a Cavs beat writer on recently. He said something along the lines that if the Cavs offered in the neighborhood of $80-85M/5 years that Rich Paul/TT would likely take it at this point. He claimed it was a gut feeling and he was distant from the talks, but this sounds kinda similar to what you're saying.

Just wanted to share since it was relevant. Thanks for bringing good info, RBA! I actually trust what you're saying haha :cheers:

[DeuceWallaces]

Is it hypocritical in the sense that he was trying to prevent Super Teams from becoming the free agency trend and now he's built a Super Team partly because of free agency? I guess ... but I'm pretty sure every owner in the league is looking out for their own interests depending on where they are on the totem pole.

That would be the hypocrisy. Threw a temper tantrum over Paul and the last CBA only to go in with this team just like it's the 2008 Lakers or some shit Knicks team paying tax through the roof because he has marketable stars and a blank check.

You are also right with the irony though. He's about to pay an incredible sum of money due to the very rules he worked so hard to implement to "protect" small market or "poor" teams.

Dan Gilbert: The Irony and Hypocrisy

[bluechox2]

Breaking: Lebron has extended his dick to dan gilbert...waiting for reversal of the decision

[lil jahlil]

Just lost one of their key players. I'm sure LeBron will find a way to make the team more stacked through his recruiting though.

[veilside23]

Hopefully this will be over soon, RBA has been the biggest TT fan.

TT is no superstar but he has shown improvement year after year, dude has played 82 games 3 straight years something that can't be said to who they have on the cavs right now.

His numbers are reduced due to the fact that kevin love is there but TT showed he can deliver and even without K.Love this is a championship roster.

A lot of cavs fans saying that its ok for TT to walk because Varejao is back, as in like hell yeah... wait what if he gets injured again?

My guess is TT will not sign for 5 years, he might sign for 3 years.

[PP34Deuce]

It's business. Lebron knows it and Tristan knows it. They are real good friends and Lebron strikes me as the type to help you get paid.

I think Lebron understands you can't have 3-4 20 plus million a year contracts especially to a guy that is just not at that market like him. Tristan should know no one is paying him that money unless a starting big gets hurt and is out the season.

[Uncle Drew]

Well, I'll just put it like this... remember when everyone was tracking Dan Gilbert's private jet during the LeBron madness last summer? That all started with a post on a private Cavs forum by a supposed insider. From there, it spread like wildfire onto Twitter and other media platforms, but we may have never known anything about it if not for this one guy making a single post in a Cavs' message board.

And, it was 100% true. Even Dan Gilbert has laughed about how he is going to have to watch releasing his flight plan in the future.

That night was insane. I love safari's.