ISIS = Nazi Party / Islamic Moderates = The German People

[poido123]

I have a hard time understanding why no one sees the danger here.


Do we not learn anything from history?

What did the German people do when the Nazi's came to power? Did they support the Jews? :oldlol:


This is why I let go of trying to be understanding and trying to spot the Wally amongst many Wally's in the Islamic society.


What's the point of pandering to, supporting the enemy which poses as our friend?

Civil wars break out and they won't be on our side. Radical Islam will eventually engulf the fence sitters/sheep.

It might seem unfathomable, but this is exactly what happened with the Nazi movement.

Please show me some opinions that refute this.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Isis army size: 200, 000 (its prolly less..but for the sake of arguement let's take this number)

Greater middle east: 520,000,000 (its 600M +...but I've removed Iran)

200,000 / 520,000,000 = 0.00038462

Which means 4 out of every 10,000...is in ISIS

You're a sick paranoid fvck OP, get help..or better...kill yourself

[fiddy]

Isis army size: 200, 000 (its prolly less..but for the sake of arguement let's take this number)

Greater middle east: 520,000,000 (its 600M +...but I've removed Iran)

200,000 / 520,000,000 = 0.00038462

Which means 4 out of every 10,000...is in ISIS

You're a sick paranoid fvck OP, get help..or better...kill yourself
:facepalm

[StephHamann]

Isis army size: 200, 000 (its prolly less..but for the sake of arguement let's take this number)

Greater middle east: 520,000,000 (its 600M +...but I've removed Iran)

200,000 / 520,000,000 = 0.00038462

Which means 4 out of every 10,000...is in ISIS

You're a sick paranoid fvck OP, get help..or better...kill yourself

That's actually proving the point of OP. If 0,00038462 can controll 1/3 of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria and most of Lybia there must be a lot of support from the common people.

[BoutPractice]

Submitting in fear isn't exactly the same thing as acquiescing.

As for your broader point, 'Civil wars break out and they won't be on our side.'

A lot of politics is about self-fulfilling prophecies.

If enough people believe in progress, you are already on your way there.

Similarly, if enough people believe that there are two sides in society and that a civil war between them is imminent, they will contribute to starting that very war through their expectations.

So we should be careful with "predictions"... No one knows what's going to happen in advance, but the more violent our predictions, the more violent our future risks being because we are actually participants in creating the future.

Once you understand that nothing can be gained from war, and that peace starts with an expectation that peace is even possible, you quickly lose interest in apocalyptic predictions, which tend to boomerang on you...

[poido123]

That's actually proving the point of OP. If 0,00038462 can controll 1/3 of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria and most of Lybia there must be a lot of support from the common people.


Bravo :applause:

[LJJ]

That's actually proving the point of OP. If 0,00038462 can controll 1/3 of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria and most of Lybia there must be a lot of support from the common people.

Meh, depends on how you measure. They certainly don't control all these empty deserts and backwoods areas in Syria because they have so much support from the population.

They have it because the government is busy protecting the population centers from them, and doesn't have enough power to also care about empty deserts with no real strategic value. Mostly, the big population centers in Syria are under government control who do have the support of the majority of the population.

[KevinNYC]

That's actually proving the point of OP. If 0,00038462 can controll 1/3 of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria and most of Lybia there must be a lot of support from the common people.
The 2/3 of Syria it commands are unpopulated desert. If you just look at where they are it's like a long thin stretched area that follow the Euphrates. More like a spider web.

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6A83/production/_84176272_syria_control_976map_v10.png


http://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/russianairstrikes.png

[BoutPractice]

Yeah, but that's pretty much how you control territory. It's not like you need to invade every square mile, it's never worked that way...

[poido123]

Submitting in fear isn't exactly the same thing as acquiescing.

As for your broader point, 'Civil wars break out and they won't be on our side.'

A lot of politics is about self-fulfilling prophecies.

If enough people believe in progress, you are already on your way there.

Similarly, if enough people believe that there are two sides in society and that a civil war between them is imminent, they will contribute to starting that very war through their expectations.

So we should be careful with "predictions"... No one knows what's going to happen in advance, but the more violent our predictions, the more violent our future risks being because we are actually participants in creating the future.


I don't have a lot of faith in humanity.

We tend to repeat the past or make shit hard for ourselves in one way or another.

I can see how things will develop. If I'm almost certain that outcome will happen, then why must I listen to people in denial?

I'm resigned to the fact that the world will fail to address the threat with appropriate measures before it is too late.

[KevinNYC]

This is an agricultural map of Syria and this a population map.http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/syria_land_1979.jpg


https://worldshiaforum.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/population.jpg

[dunksby]

Except Germans didn't fight the Nazis, while Iran, Iraq and Syria are fighting ISIS more than any other nation.
PS: OP is a ******.

[KevinNYC]

True, but for a lot of that land you can say no one controls it or no one is fighting over it.

[poido123]

Except Germans didn't fight the Nazis, while Iran, Iraq and Syria are fighting ISIS more than any other nation.
PS: OP is a ******.


So much fail in this post.

Who supported the nazis in war? Made weapons in the factories? Voted them into power? Joined the German army under hitler?

You're all over the place, you're talking about countries fighting isis? I'm talking about a group of people under Islam and how a radical group like the nazis engulfed the common people and eventually got them onside to supporting them?.


If you're going to fire at me, at least make bloody sense you w

[dunksby]

[QUOTE=poido123]So much fail in this post.

Who supported the nazis in war? Made weapons in the factories? Voted them into power? Joined the German army under hitler?

You're all over the place, you're talking about countries fighting isis? I'm talking about a group of people under Islam and how a radical group like the nazis engulfed the common people and eventually got them onside to supporting them?.


If you're going to fire at me, at least make bloody sense you w

[BlakFrankWhite]

Except Germans didn't fight the Nazis, while Iran, Iraq and Syria are fighting ISIS more than any other nation.
PS: OP is a ******.

:applause:

What up brah?...you ready to watch KD win MVP again?

[dunksby]

:applause:

What up brah?...you ready to watch KD win MVP again?
Ready to rumble :rockon:

[iamgine]

I'm not sure I see the threat here. ISIS is more like north vietnam. They're so far behind in war technology. At least the Germans were somewhat strong.

[Nick Young]

That's actually proving the point of OP. If 0,00038462 can controll 1/3 of Iraq and 2/3 of Syria and most of Lybia there must be a lot of support from the common people.
good point. ISIS would not be able to do what they're doing without support of the common people.

[poido123]

I destroyed your feeble argument, try again later.

Just because you say you "destroyed" something, doesn't actually mean that you did.


Your post was horrible. Go back to lurking you POS

[NumberSix]

good point. ISIS would not be able to do what they're doing without support of the common people.
Not really to be honest. The entire history of conquest has mostly be done by rather small numbers of people. One military vs another military is one thing, but other than that, in most cases, small militias conquer large civilian populations with relative ease. There are really only a few cases of civilian populations standing strong against an army like Germanic tribes and the people of what is now Scotland standing up to the Roman military.

For example, look at the Norman conquest of England in 1066. The Normans conquered England with a military much smaller than ISIS with arrows and swords. There numbers were actually so small that they left no genetic trace. There's no genetic evidence that they were ever there at all. But they were there.