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RidonKs
10-06-2015, 04:22 PM
whats up with that

these guys are supposed to be the innovators

they are literally stifling innovation

#deadmarkets
#frightwing
#ripcompetitionandmeritocracy


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Pharmaceutical industry gets high on fat profits
(http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28212223)

Profiteering'
With some drugs costing upwards of $100,000 for a full course, and with the cost of manufacturing just a tiny fraction of this, it's not hard to see why.
Last year, 100 leading oncologists from around the world wrote an open letter in the journal Blood calling for a reduction in the price of cancer drugs.
Dr Brian Druker, director of the Knight Cancer Institute and one of the signatories, has asked: "If you are making $3bn a year on [cancer drug] Gleevec, could you get by with $2bn? When do you cross the line from essential profits to profiteering?"
And it's not just cancer drugs - between April and June this year, drug company Gilead clocked sales of $3.5bn for its latest blockbuster hepatitis C drug Sovaldi.
Drug companies justify the high prices they charge by arguing that their research and development (R&D) costs are huge. On average, only three in 10 drugs launched are profitable, with one of those going on to be a blockbuster with $1bn-plus revenues a year. Many more do not even make it to market.
But as the table below shows, drug companies spend far more on marketing drugs - in some cases twice as much - than on developing them. And besides, profit margins take into account R&D costs.


http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/78427000/gif/_78427037_pharmaceutical_profits_624.gif



america should do the usual thing it does in these situations

blame the jews. err, the lawyers.

Akrazotile
10-06-2015, 05:38 PM
How many more new pharmaceutical innovations do we really need?

Isnt there pretty much a drug for everything by now? Shouldnt we focus a lil more on diet, exercise, and meaningful lifestyles at this point?

Or do we need to keep pumping out new pharmaceutical drugs to convince people they need?

Akrazotile
10-06-2015, 05:41 PM
Also government subsidizing of pills that a bunch of old fogies are gonna take without blinking if a doctor says so only drives up the price on this shit. Businesse know the govt is gonna have to pay whatever is asked bc otherwise libs will piss their diapers that an 86 year old man isnt getting thousands of dollars in medical attention every year for however long the industry can keep him alive and medicated.

Akrazotile
10-06-2015, 05:45 PM
And it's not just cancer drugs - between April and June this year, drug company Gilead clocked sales of $3.5bn for its latest blockbuster hepatitis C drug Sovaldi.

I wonder how much of that 3.5 billion was paid for by the people who actually caught the virus through unprotected sex and needle sharing.



Today, most people become infected with the Hepatitis C virus by sharing needles or other equipment to inject drugs.

http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hcv/cfaq.htm#cFAQ31



Somethin tells me not much.

Akrazotile
10-06-2015, 05:51 PM
3.5 BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES

.....For people who caught the drug predominantly by sharing needles to inject drugs.


But why doesnt the government do moreeee mannnnn . Stupid drug conpanies r the bad guy mannnnnnn!



This is why its hard to take liberals seriously as intellects, and as males with actual male reproductive systems.


As long as a person doesnt hav a lot of money, or is some kind of minority, liberals literally believe the cant do anything wrong. And anyone who makes a product that is willfully purchaed and ABUSED by these people, is an evil rich bastard.

And if we have a country FILLED with bad decision makers, as LONG as theyre poor, or theyre minority, it is never, ever ever ever appropriate to point the finger them.

Because F@GGOT CRYBABIES feel much more confident pointing the finger at rich people. Bc if yu call out someone of low means or status, and someone else comes along in a beret and tight jean shorts and says youre a bad guy and you need to learn tolerance and sharing, then the hippie feminist chick who doesnt shave under her arms will be impressed by THAT guy, and youll be stuck in no mans land with nothin but your principles, and youre scared as fvck and insecure about it.

So YOU jump out and preempt it. Spew that doormat pvssy rhetoric. Make sure when the daily show comes out with a new episode, youre not part of that stuffy traditional crowd theyre gonna riff on. You fit in with the cooler kids! The hip, edgy, "awkward and nerdy in a cool way" culture that you have no choice but to fit into bc youre not good at anything else. Especially holding your testicles, bc you dont have any.

GIF REACTION
10-06-2015, 06:06 PM
3.5 BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES

.....For people who caught the drug predominantly by sharing needles to inject drugs.


But why doesnt the government do moreeee mannnnn . Stupid drug conpanies r the bad guy mannnnnnn!



This is why its hard to take liberals seriously as intellects, and as males with actual male reproductive systems.


As long as a person doesnt hav a lot of money, or is some kind of minority, liberals literally believe the cant do anything wrong. And anyone who makes a product that is willfully purchaed and ABUSED by these people, is an evil rich bastard.

And if we have a country FILLED with bad decision makers, as LONG as theyre poor, or theyre minority, it is never, ever ever ever appropriate to point the finger them.

Because F@GGOT CRYBABIES feel much more confident pointing the finger at rich people. Bc if yu call out someone of low means or status, and someone else comes along in a beret and tight jean shorts and says youre a bad guy and you need to learn tolerance and sharing, then the hippie feminist chick who doesnt shave under her arms will be impressed by THAT guy, and youll be stuck in no mans land with nothin but your principles, and youre scared as fvck and insecure about it.

So YOU jump out and preempt it. Spew that doormat pvssy rhetoric. Make sure when the daily show comes out with a new episode, youre not part of that stuffy traditional crowd theyre gonna riff on. You fit in with the cooler kids! The hip, edgy, "awkward and nerdy in a cool way" culture that you have no choice but to fit into bc youre not good at anything else. Especially holding your testicles, bc you dont have any.
Agreed brother

The new age hipster is nothing but a farce

NumberSix
10-06-2015, 06:10 PM
Ok, and the problem is?

ISHGoat
10-06-2015, 06:12 PM
3.5 BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES

.....For people who caught the drug predominantly by sharing needles to inject drugs.


But why doesnt the government do moreeee mannnnn . Stupid drug conpanies r the bad guy mannnnnnn!



This is why its hard to take liberals seriously as intellects, and as males with actual male reproductive systems.


As long as a person doesnt hav a lot of money, or is some kind of minority, liberals literally believe the cant do anything wrong. And anyone who makes a product that is willfully purchaed and ABUSED by these people, is an evil rich bastard.

And if we have a country FILLED with bad decision makers, as LONG as theyre poor, or theyre minority, it is never, ever ever ever appropriate to point the finger them.

Because F@GGOT CRYBABIES feel much more confident pointing the finger at rich people. Bc if yu call out someone of low means or status, and someone else comes along in a beret and tight jean shorts and says youre a bad guy and you need to learn tolerance and sharing, then the hippie feminist chick who doesnt shave under her arms will be impressed by THAT guy, and youll be stuck in no mans land with nothin but your principles, and youre scared as fvck and insecure about it.

So YOU jump out and preempt it. Spew that doormat pvssy rhetoric. Make sure when the daily show comes out with a new episode, youre not part of that stuffy traditional crowd theyre gonna riff on. You fit in with the cooler kids! The hip, edgy, "awkward and nerdy in a cool way" culture that you have no choice but to fit into bc youre not good at anything else. Especially holding your testicles, bc you dont have any.

DAYUM SON.

Lebron family stay winning, on and off the court.

Jailblazers7
10-06-2015, 07:39 PM
oh look, starface changing the subject and going on his usual rant...

RidonKs
10-06-2015, 08:16 PM
oh look, starface changing the subject and going on his usual rant...
in his defense, he's victim to an ingenuity complex. he is wired to think everyone else is a fraud. but it's even worse than that because it's not just people pretending, but actually actively trying to get one over on him. but he's not going to let them! he's going to make his defense like a real shifty trite trial lawyer. as you would expect, virtually everything he says is a defense mechanism against the accusation that he'll be found out. and since everybody seems to know the truth but him, i'll just say that in fact he is the one who is fraudulent. and as for everyone else, they really don't care. perhaps they wish he would be nicer to people, and not transparently so. we know he's fraudulent anyways, can't exactly expect the guy to be genuine. but we are all prone to wishful thinking.

:(

well this thread was worthless anyways. check the links they aren't even relevant to my points. scar tissue was right to respond in turn as a fellow troll.

Akrazotile
10-06-2015, 11:47 PM
in his defense, he's victim to an ingenuity complex. he is wired to think everyone else is a fraud. but it's even worse than that because it's not just people pretending, but actually actively trying to get one over on him. but he's not going to let them! he's going to make his defense like a real shifty trite trial lawyer. as you would expect, virtually everything he says is a defense mechanism against the accusation that he'll be found out. and since everybody seems to know the truth but him, i'll just say that in fact he is the one who is fraudulent. and as for everyone else, they really don't care. perhaps they wish he would be nicer to people, and not transparently so. we know he's fraudulent anyways, can't exactly expect the guy to be genuine. but we are all prone to wishful thinking.

:(

well this thread was worthless anyways. check the links they aren't even relevant to my points. scar tissue was right to respond in turn as a fellow troll.


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NBAplayoffs2001
10-07-2015, 12:01 AM
A good example of this is in Shark Tank when someone had a multimillionaire dollar business in China but because it wasn't patented, a competitor took over it and she pretty much lost the chance of becoming a millionaire and instead was on the verge of being broke. So it's understandable to pay for patent protection in that case.

bdreason
10-07-2015, 02:56 AM
You should read a book written by one of my former professors. It's a really interesting read about the history of patents/IPR's and how they stifle innovation. It's called Steal This Idea, by Michael Perelman.

http://www.amazon.com/Steal-This-Idea-Intellectual-Confiscation/dp/0312294085/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

lil jahlil
10-07-2015, 03:26 AM
I read patient protection at first and thought "what is wrong with that," but yes, this is shit.