Obama will be known as America's greatest Traitor

[poido123]

Putin speaks so much truth and is so concise with his words that I am growing more and more suspicious of that Obama guy.

If there was ever a war (Australia is allies with America) I would refuse to battle against Russia. I would not fight for a Muslim president who has his own agenda on how America should be and how he envisions the world under Islam.


Obama is a traitor.

Get him out.


http://tapwires.com/2015/10/01/putin-just-exposed-obamas-connection-to-isis-watch-before-he-takes-this-down

[KellhitEmup15]

http://geaugaconstitutionalcouncil.org/userfiles/image/BenedictArnoldTraitor.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/screen-shot-2010-07-03-at-1-48-11-pm.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/burr1.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/166063-img_spy-slide-2_slide.jpg


He is top 10 at best.

[Millslapped]

You are absolutely ****ing nuts

[red1]

what a paranoid retard :roll:

[BasedTom]

putin has his own resume and skeletons in his closet

Viktor Orb

[Nick Young]

Every one already knows about Obama backing ISIS. Glad Putin is bringing it up again.

However, Obama is not a Muslim and I don't get why so many people think this.

He is probably an atheist, but goes to church so is technically Christian.

[Patrick Chewing]

Obama's an elitist. It's all about pride and ego and legacy and being a member of that special club at the end of the day. The only difference is that he fooled the masses with all that charisma that to this day you still have people like KevinNYC and other ISH'ers defending his record.

It's laughable. But a guy like Ben Carson with no political background is a saint compared to this guy.

[poido123]

You are absolutely ****ing nuts


http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tea-party-hitler.jpg

[poido123]

[QUOTE=BasedTom]putin has his own resume and skeletons in his closet

Viktor Orb

[imdaman99]

Thanks for your useless opinion. I like Obama fine and am appreciative of his time in office.

BTW, he is not Muslim but I wouldn't expect a paranoid tinfoil hat owner to realize that.

[TripleA]

http://geaugaconstitutionalcouncil.org/userfiles/image/BenedictArnoldTraitor.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/screen-shot-2010-07-03-at-1-48-11-pm.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/burr1.jpg

http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/166063-img_spy-slide-2_slide.jpg


He is top 10 at best.

:lol

[DonDadda59]

This you, OP? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC10-_BU5_U) :confusedshrug:

[poido123]

This you, OP? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC10-_BU5_U) :confusedshrug:




:roll:

[poido123]

Thanks for your useless opinion. I like Obama fine and am appreciative of his time in office.

BTW, he is not Muslim but I wouldn't expect a paranoid tinfoil hat owner to realize that.



I appreciate Putin's time in office more. I also appreciate Putin's no nonsense approach with ISIS and his hardline policies on Islam and any other culture that wants to impose their shit.

Doing what Obama won't do because he has his own agenda and payoffs.


CAIR or the Muslim brotherhood masterminds the dominance of ISlam both in America and worldwide.

If you care about America read this:

http://www.fortressoffaith.org/blog/newsletters/is-obama-a-member-of-the-muslim-brotherhood/



These ISH muslims are posing as your friend, but ultimately are supporting the rise of Islam as the dominant religion and only religion.

[Millslapped]

You realize you're reading bullshit articles from crazy sites right? You are a complete ****ing crazy ass moron.

[poido123]

You realize you're reading bullshit articles from crazy sites right? You are a complete ****ing crazy ass moron.


CAIR is no joke. That website has an extreme right wing view yes, but there are important parts to take out of it.


CAIR is a platform in which American Muslims and worldwide Islam can use a political footing to ultimately make Islam the dominant religion.


Don't believe me? read up on CAIR. They are very controversial.

[GIF REACTION]

Quit trying to talk about politics

You're a bag boy

Go pick up some bags

[poido123]

Quit trying to talk about politics

You're a bag boy

Go pick up some bags


Haven't you got some money to sponge off your parents Simon?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Serious question: do you actually believe that he's Muslim? Not trolling?

[poido123]

Serious question: do you actually believe that he's Muslim? Not trolling?


His brother is linked to the muslim brotherhood, and dad was a muslim turned atheist...

Hard to say, Obama claims he's Christian, yet Obama does a lot of stuff that suggests otherwise.


I don't really know. 20% of americans believe he is.

[Millslapped]

Why does OP's beta ass care about America so much anyways
/

[ThePhantomCreep]

Notice that the Putin fanboys are generally also big defenders of The Stars and Bars, a flag of traitors.

Right-wingers are the enemy within.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

His brother is linked to the muslim brotherhood, and dad was a muslim turned atheist...

Hard to say, Obama claims he's Christian, yet Obama does a lot of stuff that suggests otherwise.


I don't really know. 20% of americans believe he is.

That just means that 20% of Americans are retarded.

[lil jahlil]

OP = dumb

[bladefd]

OP is a fool or a troll.

Obama has taken more flak from republicans than he should have. He has been a better president than Bush before him. Only thing i would say he screwed up so far is the mess in Libya and TPP treaty, which is a big mistake. Otherwise, what other major mistake has Obama made?

I dont believe Ukraine situation and iran deal were mistakes.

[lil jahlil]

^ agreed.

[Patrick Chewing]

OP is a fool or a troll.

Obama has taken more flak from republicans than he should have. He has been a better president than Bush before him. Only thing i would say he screwed up so far is the mess in Libya and TPP treaty, which is a big mistake. Otherwise, what other major mistake has Obama made?

I dont believe Ukraine situation and iran deal were mistakes.


Is this a serious question??

Let's see here....

1. Removal of the Status of Forces

(then there's a big gap)


2. Obamacare fiasco. It will get repealed if the Republicans take over
3. Debt nearly tripled under his term
4. Bowe Bergdahl swap for 5 Taliban terrorists
5. Stimulus deal by bailing out the banks
6. Interjecting himself into social issues (primarily Black issues only)
7. Operation Fast and Furious which got an American killed

I can go on and on.

[nathanjizzle]

Putin speaks so much truth and is so concise with his words that I am growing more and more suspicious of that Obama guy.

If there was ever a war (Australia is allies with America) I would refuse to battle against Russia. I would not fight for a Muslim president who has his own agenda on how America should be and how he envisions the world under Islam.


Obama is a traitor.

Get him out.


http://tapwires.com/2015/10/01/putin-just-exposed-obamas-connection-to-isis-watch-before-he-takes-this-down

thats a false translation dude.

[Derka]

You know...when you type out a legitimate reply to threads like this, you only encourage him.

[Jailblazers7]

Is this a serious question??

Let's see here....

1. Removal of the Status of Forces

(then there's a big gap)


2. Obamacare fiasco. It will get repealed if the Republicans take over
3. Debt nearly tripled under his term
4. Bowe Bergdahl swap for 5 Taliban terrorists
5. Stimulus deal by bailing out the banks
6. Interjecting himself into social issues (primarily Black issues only)
7. Operation Fast and Furious which got an American killed

I can go on and on.

The only thing that can be considered a fiasco about Obamacare is the egg all over the face of Republicans because it's working so well. :oldlol:

3 & 5 were unavoidable regardless of who the president was. Sure, Obama ****ed up some foreign policy stuff but no President will ever have a clean record there.

I won't really comment on how his foreign policy will be graded over time because that shit is a huge web that I faintly understand. His domestic policies are looking like pretty nice at the moment tho.

[dude77]

Serious question: do you actually believe that he's Muslim? Not trolling?

yes he's a muslim .. whether officially or not doesn't matter .. he's muslim in spirit and it's obvious he has deep ties to it if you know his background, if you've listened to the way he talks about it and how he has acted in certain situations .. he even threw his "own faith" under the bus to defend islamic extremists .. wtf shits on their own faith like that ? no one does .. he would never say anything derogatory about islam .. you can bet on that

[BoutPractice]

America should be very glad it accidentally elected an intelligent leader for these troubled times. And I do mean accidentally - most of his supporters voted for the narrative.

Just imagine one second if they'd elected John McCain instead... Ever since Obama has been elected, John McCain's answer to every foreign policy problem has been bombs, bombs, and more bombs.

John McCain, who was a leading advocate of going into Iraq (then staying there a hundred years no matter the cost), is also particularly eager to go to war with Iran, and has been busy trying to start WW3 with Russia for over a year now, seemingly unaware that they still have nukes. And those are just some of the countries he's wanted to attack... Not to mention all the regimes he's argued needed to be toppled by the US... I can barely keep track anymore. By the way, did I add that in every case, he's also wanted to put more "boots on the ground", and keep them there for as long as it takes? Sounds like a reasonable foreign policy...

A cranky old "maverick" with access to nuclear codes, a bit of a temper, and a propensity for preferring the most violent solution to any given problem: what could have gone wrong? Besides, I'm sure Vice President Palin would have been there to make sure he doesn't do anything too crazy...

Romney struck me as more of a pragmatist, so perhaps if he'd been elected life as we know it would still exist, but bearing in mind that every time you get the Republicans into the White House, the whole team of delusional neocons also gets there with them, I'm not 100% convinced either, especially regarding the Ukraine situation.

Say what you want about Obama, but I feel much safer that we'll survive the next year or so with him at the helm. From 2017 onwards, all bets are off... it seems that the current foreign policy conversation is headed back towards insanity. "Serious" people are starting to talk about things like retaliating directly against Russia, or letting China know America means business, as though anything good could come of it. The people surrounding Rubio, for example, are utterly insane, Darth Vader style imperialists with delusions of world domination...

The most telling thing about the world in 2015 is how so many people who should know better (especially educated citizens from "Western" countries) appear to prefer the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping to Obama and the "weak" European leaders... Democracy, caution, deliberation are out, and "strongmen" who can do things quickly without regard for the consequences are in.

[NumberSix]

yes he's a muslim .. whether officially or not doesn't matter .. he's muslim in spirit and it's obvious he has deep ties to it if you know his background, if you've listened to the way he talks about it and how he has acted in certain situations .. he even threw his "own faith" under the bus to defend islamic extremists .. wtf shits on their own faith like that ? no one does .. he would never say anything derogatory about islam .. you can bet on that
He's not a Muslim. He used to be. That's a fact that some people reufse to acknowledge. But he was. Now though, he's almost certainly an atheist.

[Nanners]

America should be very glad it accidentally elected an intelligent leader for these troubled times. And I do mean accidentally - most of his supporters voted for the narrative.

Just imagine one second if they'd elected John McCain instead... Ever since Obama has been elected, John McCain's answer to every foreign policy problem has been bombs, bombs, and more bombs.

John McCain, who was a leading advocate of going into Iraq (then staying there a hundred years no matter the cost), is also particularly eager to go to war with Iran, and has been busy trying to start WW3 with Russia for over a year now, seemingly unaware that they still have nukes. And those are just some of the countries he's wanted to attack... Not to mention all the regimes he's argued needed to be toppled by the US... I can barely keep track anymore. By the way, did I add that in every case, he's also wanted to put more "boots on the ground", and keep them there for as long as it takes? Sounds like a reasonable foreign policy...

A cranky old "maverick" with access to nuclear codes, a bit of a temper, and a propensity for preferring the most violent solution to any given problem: what could have gone wrong? Besides, I'm sure Vice President Palin would have been there to make sure he doesn't do anything too crazy...

Romney struck me as more of a pragmatist, so perhaps if he'd been elected life as we know it would still exist, but bearing in mind that every time you get the Republicans into the White House, the whole team of delusional neocons also gets there with them, I'm not 100% convinced either, especially regarding the Ukraine situation.

Say what you want about Obama, but I feel much safer that we'll survive the next year or so with him at the helm. From 2017 onwards, all bets are off... it seems that the current foreign policy conversation is headed back towards insanity. "Serious" people are starting to talk about things like retaliating directly against Russia, or letting China know America means business, as though anything good could come of it. The people surrounding Rubio, for example, are utterly insane, Darth Vader style imperialists with delusions of world domination...

The most telling thing about the world in 2015 is how so many people who should know better (especially educated citizens from "Western" countries) appear to prefer the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping to Obama and the "weak" European leaders... Democracy, caution, deliberation are out, and "strongmen" who can do things quickly without regard for the consequences are in.
great post :applause:

[DeuceWallaces]

His father was Muslim. He never was.

That's like saying I used to be Christian because my dad and grandma prayed at the dinner table when I was 7.

[Patrick Chewing]

America should be very glad it accidentally elected an intelligent leader for these troubled times. And I do mean accidentally - most of his supporters voted for the narrative.

Just imagine one second if they'd elected John McCain instead... Ever since Obama has been elected, John McCain's answer to every foreign policy problem has been bombs, bombs, and more bombs.

John McCain, who was a leading advocate of going into Iraq (then staying there a hundred years no matter the cost), is also particularly eager to go to war with Iran, and has been busy trying to start WW3 with Russia for over a year now, seemingly unaware that they still have nukes. And those are just some of the countries he's wanted to attack... Not to mention all the regimes he's argued needed to be toppled by the US... I can barely keep track anymore. By the way, did I add that in every case, he's also wanted to put more "boots on the ground", and keep them there for as long as it takes? Sounds like a reasonable foreign policy...

A cranky old "maverick" with access to nuclear codes, a bit of a temper, and a propensity for preferring the most violent solution to any given problem: what could have gone wrong? Besides, I'm sure Vice President Palin would have been there to make sure he doesn't do anything too crazy...

Romney struck me as more of a pragmatist, so perhaps if he'd been elected life as we know it would still exist, but bearing in mind that every time you get the Republicans into the White House, the whole team of delusional neocons also gets there with them, I'm not 100% convinced either, especially regarding the Ukraine situation.

Say what you want about Obama, but I feel much safer that we'll survive the next year or so with him at the helm. From 2017 onwards, all bets are off... it seems that the current foreign policy conversation is headed back towards insanity. "Serious" people are starting to talk about things like retaliating directly against Russia, or letting China know America means business, as though anything good could come of it. The people surrounding Rubio, for example, are utterly insane, Darth Vader style imperialists with delusions of world domination...

The most telling thing about the world in 2015 is how so many people who should know better (especially educated citizens from "Western" countries) appear to prefer the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping to Obama and the "weak" European leaders... Democracy, caution, deliberation are out, and "strongmen" who can do things quickly without regard for the consequences are in.


:sleeping


Uber Liberal KevinNYC will tell you that Obama dropped more bombs in his tenure versus his predecessor, so that kind of craps all over your war-mongering argument.

[StephHamann]

:sleeping


Uber Liberal KevinNYC will tell you that Obama dropped more bombs in his tenure versus his predecessor, so that kind of craps all over your war-mongering argument.

He also armed ISIS who killed aprox. more than 200k people.

[Nanners]

He also armed ISIS who killed aprox. more than 200k people.

and senator mccain was pushing harder than anybody to make that happen

[KingBeasley08]

America should be very glad it accidentally elected an intelligent leader for these troubled times. And I do mean accidentally - most of his supporters voted for the narrative.

Just imagine one second if they'd elected John McCain instead... Ever since Obama has been elected, John McCain's answer to every foreign policy problem has been bombs, bombs, and more bombs.

John McCain, who was a leading advocate of going into Iraq (then staying there a hundred years no matter the cost), is also particularly eager to go to war with Iran, and has been busy trying to start WW3 with Russia for over a year now, seemingly unaware that they still have nukes. And those are just some of the countries he's wanted to attack... Not to mention all the regimes he's argued needed to be toppled by the US... I can barely keep track anymore. By the way, did I add that in every case, he's also wanted to put more "boots on the ground", and keep them there for as long as it takes? Sounds like a reasonable foreign policy...

A cranky old "maverick" with access to nuclear codes, a bit of a temper, and a propensity for preferring the most violent solution to any given problem: what could have gone wrong? Besides, I'm sure Vice President Palin would have been there to make sure he doesn't do anything too crazy...

Romney struck me as more of a pragmatist, so perhaps if he'd been elected life as we know it would still exist, but bearing in mind that every time you get the Republicans into the White House, the whole team of delusional neocons also gets there with them, I'm not 100% convinced either, especially regarding the Ukraine situation.

Say what you want about Obama, but I feel much safer that we'll survive the next year or so with him at the helm. From 2017 onwards, all bets are off... it seems that the current foreign policy conversation is headed back towards insanity. "Serious" people are starting to talk about things like retaliating directly against Russia, or letting China know America means business, as though anything good could come of it. The people surrounding Rubio, for example, are utterly insane, Darth Vader style imperialists with delusions of world domination...

The most telling thing about the world in 2015 is how so many people who should know better (especially educated citizens from "Western" countries) appear to prefer the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping to Obama and the "weak" European leaders... Democracy, caution, deliberation are out, and "strongmen" who can do things quickly without regard for the consequences are in.
:applause:

Also, Obama is most likely an Atheist. If he's a Muslim, he's the worst Muslim ever. He drinks, smokes, eats pork, bombs other Muslim countries, and checks out ass

http://news.bf-1.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/obama_ass.jpg

[StephHamann]

and senator mccain was pushing harder than anybody to make that happen

[...] Obama is not a "strongmen" who can do things quickly without regard for the consequences are in.

Yet his foreign policy is basically the same as Reagans in the 80s. The enemy of the enemy is my friend.

Reagan armed Al Qaida

Obama armed ISIS

[BoutPractice]

StephHamann > Are you suggesting that the Obama administration has been intentionally helping ISIS?

Any proof to that assertion?

Patrick Chewing > The Bush administration intentionally invaded a country of over 35 million people under a false pretext, setting in motion a chain of events that we're still struggling with today. They created a whole new mess in an already messed up region.

The Obama administration meanwhile has been trying to fix a pre-existing mess, committing (as one would expect) many mistakes along the way, including serious ones, yes...

But someone lighting a house on fire on purpose isn't the same as a firefighter struggling to contain that fire...

[imdaman99]

checks out ass

http://news.bf-1.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/obama_ass.jpg
Who's ass is that? :eek: :eek: :eek: Needs better calves though.

[StephHamann]

But someone lighting a house on fire on purpose isn't the same as a firefighter struggling to contain that fire...

What? :roll:

Obama tilt fuel to the fire and now the whole neighbourhood is burning.
His worst idea by far was arming ISIS in Libya and bombing Gaddafi.

Libya was one of the richest and most stabile countries in North Africa, now it's a shithole and millions of people from Africa are coming via Libya and Sicily to Europe.

The Economy of Libya depends primarily upon revenues from the petroleum sector, which contributes practically all export earnings and over half of GDP. These oil revenues and a small population have given Libya the highest nominal per capita GDP in Africa.[5] After 2000, Libya recorded favourable growth rates with an estimated 10.6% growth of GDP in 2010. This development was interrupted by the Libyan Civil War, which resulted in contraction of the economy by 62.1% in 2011.

[9erempiree]

Who's ass is that? :eek: :eek: :eek: Needs better calves though.

:facepalm

The 50% Muslim practitioner.

[BoutPractice]

What? :roll:

Obama tilt fuel to the fire and now the whole neighbourhood is burning.
His worst idea by far was arming ISIS in Libya and bombing Gaddafi.

Libya was one of the richest and most stabile countries in North Africa, now it's a shithole and millions of people from Africa are coming via Libya and Sicily to Europe.
Libya is one of the big failures of the Obama administration, no question about it.

But to compare it to Iraq is disingenuous.

The Arab Spring is something that just... happened, like many revolutions in the past. Events got out of control, and when the US got involved their key sin was that they were completely improvising.

Iraq meanwhile was a premeditated crime... Cheney and his boys were already thinking about it in the 1990s.

[StephHamann]

The Arab Spring is something that just... happened, like many revolutions in the past. Events got out of control, and when the US got involved their key sin was that they were completely improvising.

.

"Improvising" ISIS is fighting for over 4 years now, killed 200k people and Obama is still supporting them today.

[9erempiree]

Obama ****ed up so bad. :facepalm

Obama is public enemy #1

[BoutPractice]

"Improvising" ISIS is fighting for over 4 years now, killed 200k people and Obama is still supporting them today.
You've just repeated that ludicrous claim of yours. Where's the proof?

The problem with conspiracy theories as well as actual conspiracy attempts is that Middle Eastern politics are the perfect example of something you can't control.

Every move you make is the wrong move... whether you take a particular side to the various conflicts, or no side at all, terrible things are going to happen. I challenge anyone to come up with an intelligent policy "solution" to the current conflicts in the region that doesn't involve thousands dying needlessly.

But while every option is a bad one, some are worse than others... and randomly invading a country under a false pretext is one of those. It's about as effective a foreign policy strategy as throwing over the chessboard is a chess strategy.

[StephHamann]

You've just repeated that ludicrous claim of yours. Where's the proof?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/world/middleeast/us-aims-to-put-more-pressure-on-isis-in-syria.html?_r=0

Together, these measures are intended to empower 3,000 to 5,000 Arab fighters who = again Saudia Arabia is the greatest supporter of international terrorism.

Great idea to arm another 5000, worked so good with the ISIS guys. Those 5000 will fight against Putin and Assad.

Again the enemy of the enemy is my friend, still not learning from mistakes the USA already made in the 80s. You can't arm muslims and expect them to give the weapons back after the war.

[BoutPractice]

So your big proof that the US is in cahoots with ISIS is... an article literally titled "US aims to put more pressure on ISIS", about the US's plans for fighting ISIS?

[DonDadda59]

You've just repeated that ludicrous claim of yours. Where's the proof?

The problem with conspiracy theories as well as actual conspiracy attempts is that Middle Eastern politics are the perfect example of something you can't control.

Every move you make is the wrong move... whether you take a particular side to the various conflicts, or no side at all, terrible things are going to happen. I challenge anyone to come up with an intelligent policy "solution" to the current conflicts in the region that doesn't involve thousands dying needlessly.

But while every option is a bad one, some are worse than others... and randomly invading country under a false pretext is one of those.

:applause:

The conservatives view Ronald Reagan as a deity, but look at the disastrous blunders the man was responsible for in regard to the Middle East. The Iran-Contra scandal, he even had future Taliban/Al Qaeda members in the White House as his personal guests (and was funding/training them via the CIA in Afghanistan):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Reagan_sitting_with_people_from_the_Afghanistan-Pakistan_region_in_February_1983.jpg

Of course at the time he thought he was helping freedom fighters stand up to Soviet aggression. Funny how History has a habit of repeating itself. But some people never learn from it.

The sooner we stop meddling in Middle Eastern politics, the better off we'll be.

[StephHamann]

So your big proof that the US is in cahoots with ISIS is... an article literally titled "US aims to put more pressure on ISIS", about the US's plans for fighting ISIS?

That's just propaganda, Putin is also "only fighting ISIS" but they are bombing completly different groups.

I'm out now, go celebrate your poltical genius Obama.

[BoutPractice]

Well, I don't plan on continuing this argument much longer myself, but you've got to admit...

I ask you for proof that the US is supporting ISIS.

The best you can give me is an article about the US fighting ISIS...

Your defense is that "the article is propaganda".

With that logic, I can "prove" juste about anything :lol

[longhornfan1234]

Obama will go down as the softest president in history. He makes Carter look like Tywin Lannister.

[Patrick Chewing]

He also armed ISIS who killed aprox. more than 200k people.


I know Obama did. That's why ISIS is flourishing. The only way you disarm ISIS is by killing them. Obama has yet to do that.

[Patrick Chewing]

Obama will go down as the softest president in history. He makes Carter look like Tywin Lannister.


This is why Kennedy was assassinated. The current and former Generals during Obama's administration are probably furious with him for never making a concrete and forceful decision. He's not soft. He's just a coward.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Looks like some people here wandered over from the FOX News message boards.

[NumberSix]

StephHamann > Are you suggesting that the Obama administration has been intentionally helping ISIS?

Any proof to that assertion?

Patrick Chewing > The Bush administration intentionally invaded a country of over 35 million people under a false pretext, setting in motion a chain of events that we're still struggling with today. They created a whole new mess in an already messed up region.

The Obama administration meanwhile has been trying to fix a pre-existing mess, committing (as one would expect) many mistakes along the way, including serious ones, yes...

But someone lighting a house on fire on purpose isn't the same as a firefighter struggling to contain that fire...
It depends what you mean by "intentionally helping."

His refusal to take a hard stance certainly helps ISIS. Let's keep it real here. If he really wanted to, Obama could easily send in 20,000 troops and completely eradicate ISIS in 2 weeks.

We also can't ignore the fact that he keeps arming people who suddenly surrender those arms to ISIS, meanwhile, he has refused to arm the Kurds.

Iraq's prime minister just recently said in an interview with French TV that Obama doesn't have the will to fight ISIS and that Iraq should look to Russia for help.

[dunksby]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Reagan_sitting_with_people_from_the_Afghanistan-Pakistan_region_in_February_1983.jpg

Of course at the time he thought he was helping freedom fighters stand up to Soviet aggression. Funny how History has a habit of repeating itself. But some people never learn from it.

The sooner we stop meddling in Middle Eastern politics, the better off we'll be.
:wtf: :wtf: :eek: :eek:

[dude77]

:oldlol: obama getting shit on by everyone these days ..



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262979/We-cut-filthy-head-Child-ISIS-jihadi-taunts-Dog-Rome-Obama-submit-Caliphate-die-direct-video-threat.html

[KingBeasley08]

OP needs to take a break from the internet

[DonDadda59]

:wtf: :wtf: :eek: :eek:

Operation Cyclone. Look it up. The U.S. spent the 80s funding and training Afghani/Pakistani 'freedom fighters' in their war against the Soviets. Spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the covert operation. Many of those same 'freedom fighters' (mainly the Mujahideen) would later form the Taliban and Al Qaeda (Osama Bin Laden being the most well known).

So you have Ronald Reagan sitting in the White House with future Taliban members, while his CIA was training and funding some of the terrorists that would go on to carry out 9/11 and other attacks against American interests.

The problem is that many U.S. politicians and pundits have a very simplistic, Black and White view of the World that is not reality based. In their mind there is a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in every situation when in reality there's just guys, with different agendas.

So next time you're watching Rambo III, keep in mind that he's helping Al Qaeda/The Taliban. :crazysam:

[imdaman99]

he would never say anything derogatory about islam .. you can bet on that
:wtf: Why should he? I don't think he's a bigot like you anonymous badasses on here :biggums:

[poido123]

:wtf: Why should he? I don't think he's a bigot like you anonymous badasses on here :biggums:


Come on, get it out of your system.


I want to hear 10 bigots nice and loud. :banana: :banana:

Then you can start with 10 Islamophobia. :D

While you're at it, you can even bring out your other favourite deflective word racist.

:biggums: :coleman: :biggums:


You guys have all the tools to fight an internet war :applause: :applause:



Islam full of mind ****ers and dodge responsibility like ISIS hide among innocent civilians when they are targeted...

[imdaman99]

:lol what the hell are you blabbering about? We are not responsible for fkers like ISIS. They will get what's coming to them.

Keep making these threads and spreading your ignorance to everyone else. This is your Jihad, keep at it :cheers:

[StephHamann]

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[dunksby]

Operation Cyclone. Look it up. The U.S. spent the 80s funding and training Afghani/Pakistani 'freedom fighters' in their war against the Soviets. Spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the covert operation. Many of those same 'freedom fighters' (mainly the Mujahideen) would later form the Taliban and Al Qaeda (Osama Bin Laden being the most well known).

So you have Ronald Reagan sitting in the White House with future Taliban members, while his CIA was training and funding some of the terrorists that would go on to carry out 9/11 and other attacks against American interests.

The problem is that many U.S. politicians and pundits have a very simplistic, Black and White view of the World that is not reality based. In their mind there is a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in every situation when in reality there's just guys, with different agendas.

So next time you're watching Rambo III, keep in mind that he's helping Al Qaeda/The Taliban. :crazysam:
Sheeeeeiiiitttt, so Reagan a homo loving free thinking ***** ass muslim lover democrat liberal like Obama? Chewing lied to me :(

[Patrick Chewing]

:lol what the hell are you blabbering about? We are not responsible for fkers like ISIS.


As soon as Obama ordered the removal of a status of forces, ISIS was born. What more proof do you need?

[DonDadda59]

Sheeeeeiiiitttt, so Reagan a homo loving free thinking ***** ass muslim lover democrat liberal like Obama? Chewing lied to me :(

Reagan is viewed as the paradigm of perfection, a God by the Republicans today but he would be considered a RINO, more to the left than many active democrats if he were running for office now.

The man had MUSLIMS in the White House as his personal guests. Not just any ole everyday Muslims either, but radical Islamists, some of whom would later form the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Ronny spent billions in U.S. dollars arming these radical Islamists and training them in combat.

That really came back to bite America in the ass something fierce. :lol

[TripleA]

Reagan is viewed as the paradigm of perfection, a God by the Republicans today but he would be considered a RINO, more to the left than many active democrats if he were running for office now.

The man had MUSLIMS in the White House as his personal guests. Not just any ole everyday Muslims either, but radical Islamists, some of whom would later form the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Ronny spent billions in U.S. dollars arming these radical Islamists and training them in combat.

That really came back to bite America in the ass something fierce. :lol

Why does America care about the Middle East so much.
Their a bunch of other messed up places with terrorist groups,Dictators,Warlords.

[DonDadda59]

Why does America care about the Middle East so much.
Their a bunch of other messed up places with terrorist groups,Dictators,Warlords.

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[Derka]

Why does America care about the Middle East so much.
Their a bunch of other messed up places with terrorist groups,Dictators,Warlords.
Because oil.

[RidonKs]

Well, I don't plan on continuing this argument much longer myself, but you've got to admit...

I ask you for proof that the US is supporting ISIS.

The best you can give me is an article about the US fighting ISIS...

Your defense is that "the article is propaganda".

With that logic, I can "prove" juste about anything :lol
the united states doesn't have to outright state its support for isis for us to understand that its relations with iraq over the past 35 years have contributed to the rise of violent extremism in the region more than any other empirical factor.

[RidonKs]

As soon as Obama ordered the removal of a status of forces, ISIS was born. What more proof do you need?
perhaps the united states would be better off if they shipped a bunch of its unwanted citizens to the middle east and subsidized their laziness with wealthy cantons all over "the islamic state and the levant" and they can set up hamburger stands and hollywood screenings for all those uncivilized mongrels to learn whats good and proper about learning from who knows best. their drudged lifestyles will spread like wildfire across a region of people who are already ascetics and mystics and self loathing cretins intent on dehumanizing the rest of us. might as well put like with like, no?

[Dresta]

Reagan is viewed as the paradigm of perfection, a God by the Republicans today but he would be considered a RINO, more to the left than many active democrats if he were running for office now.

The man had MUSLIMS in the White House as his personal guests. Not just any ole everyday Muslims either, but radical Islamists, some of whom would later form the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Ronny spent billions in U.S. dollars arming these radical Islamists and training them in combat.

That really came back to bite America in the ass something fierce. :lol
That's just nonsense. Reagan increased federal government spending and effectively established the current neo-liberal consensus; if anything, it shows how far the conservative movement had sunk to champion such a man. Basically, the opposite to what you think.

Nor could any logic place him 'to the left' of the cultural Marxist, corporatist and socialistic Democratic Party.

And yes, Obama is the most left wing and un-american President the US has yet had the misfortune to suffer. His Presidency has been the most egregious abuse of Executive power, foreign and domestic. At least Bush got congressional approval for his wars, as stupid as they were. The Obama administration has been happy to plunge nations into anarchy and chaos over the slightest whims, and without any legality whatsoever. Bunch of idealistic fools who think they are God (i've even read Obama encomiums by his supporters in academia that refer to him as 'a kind of God'). Think that says all that needs to be said about the man and his lust for power and legacy.

[Dresta]

What? :roll:

Obama tilt fuel to the fire and now the whole neighbourhood is burning.
His worst idea by far was arming ISIS in Libya and bombing Gaddafi.

Libya was one of the richest and most stabile countries in North Africa, now it's a shithole and millions of people from Africa are coming via Libya and Sicily to Europe.

The Economy of Libya depends primarily upon revenues from the petroleum sector, which contributes practically all export earnings and over half of GDP. These oil revenues and a small population have given Libya the highest nominal per capita GDP in Africa.[5] After 2000, Libya recorded favourable growth rates with an estimated 10.6% growth of GDP in 2010. This development was interrupted by the Libyan Civil War, which resulted in contraction of the economy by 62.1% in 2011.Don't forget that the Libyan experiment has created a hub for weapons trade, enabling the easier arming, and with improved weapons, of IS, Al-Nusra, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, et al.

That's the thing with these idealistic regime changers: they're so keen to experiment with the lives of other people. And they never think about what the actual consequences of their actions will be, so sure they are that what they want to happen will come to pass, if only the will is there!

[Heavincent]

It is funny how liberals have such a boner for the guy. "Good guy Obama, what a hero!" then he literally bombs a hospital, and is just like "oh, uh...sorry about that"

Mr. Nobel Peace Prize still killing children and innocent civilians with air strikes.

[Nick Young]

That was the worst Nobel Peace Prize ever handed out in history.

Obama is a weak president but he's not much worse than George W. Bush.

Neither of those guys are the very worst in terms of US presidents in history but they are definitely towards the bottom.


Obama will be remembered as a Jimmy Carter type who is more hypocritical and killed more people and accomplished less. Hopefully our next guy is an improvement, whoever it may be.


Benedict Arnold was America's greatest traitor. His betrayal almost cost the United States its freedom, and before that he was one of America's greatest war heroes, and skilled general. His betrayal hurt the worst and I can't think of anything that comes close to Arnold's betrayal.

[Heavincent]

How high is Obama's body count now? Has to be through the roof with all of these air strikes, assassinations, etc. Lots of innocent people caught in the cross fire.

Dude makes an anti gun speech, then turns around and bombs a hospital. Something something glass houses.

[Dbrog]

If you are comparing Obama with Hitler, you just went full retard :facepalm

He's not even the worst of the last two presidents!

[Smook B]

If you are comparing Obama with Hitler, you just went full retard :facepalm

He's not even the worst of the last two presidents!

Bill Clinton> Obama.

[Dbrog]

As soon as Obama ordered the removal of a status of forces, ISIS was born. What more proof do you need?

We should have never ****ing been there in the first place. US needs to gtfo of other countries and focus on itself again.

Edit: Smook I meant between Obama and Bush. Clinton shat on both of them.

[Smook B]

Also didn't Obama call ISIS a JV team a few years ago look how that turned out.

[Dbrog]

Also didn't Obama call ISIS a JV team a few years ago look how that turned out.

It's true. In fairness though, I've talked to military dudes, some who were in the recent war who also thought it was comical how much play ISIS was getting in the media considering how weak they were. I don't think anybody involved thought they were going to gain the strength they did.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Bill Clinton. :applause:

[longtime lurker]

So has anyone actually identified how Obummer's a traitor?

[Nick Young]

How high is Obama's body count now? Has to be through the roof with all of these air strikes, assassinations, etc. Lots of innocent people caught in the cross fire.

Dude makes an anti gun speech, then turns around and bombs a hospital. Something something glass houses.
It is much higher than George W. Bush's.

And George W. Bush is supposed to be the warmonger here:roll:

Pure 1984 newspeak. These idiotic Democrat voters fall for it hook, line and sinker every time.

I guess it is a liberal idea to bomb hospitals and assassinate people with drone strikes.

[Nick Young]

Also didn't Obama call ISIS a JV team a few years ago look how that turned out.
Also, Obama actively funded, trained and armed ISIS, and he wanted our troops to fight on their side vs "Evil dictator" Assad in Syria.