Mexican drug lord El Chapo puts $100m bounty on Donald Trump "Dead or Alive"

[CavaliersFTW]

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http://www.brobible.com/life/article/el-chapo-bounty-donald-trump-dead-or-alive-huge-sum-of-money/

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[BlakFrankWhite]

They should have a 'battle of the billionaires' fight

[Shade8780]

doing god's work :applause:

[Levity]

hmmm... i could use $100 million.

tempting offer

[oarabbus]

Trump sucks but let's be real. He has more than twice as much dough as Chapo. Trump could just put out a $101 million hit back on him or buy him out and make him a personal servant.

[Draz]

Looool

[SAKOTXA]

Trump sucks but let's be real. He has more than twice as much dough as Chapo. Trump could just put out a $101 million hit back on him or buy him out and make him a personal servant.
You don't really believe that Trump has more money than Chapo do you?

[Derka]

Secret Service protection for candidates doesn't show up until after the conventions IIRC.

For $100 million though? Trump better step his security game up big-time. That's enough money to get a serious player to take the bait. They might just be crazy enough to try it.

[Levity]

you down, ISH brothers?

And with all that reward money, we can finally build a wall at the border!!!!

[Bosnian Sajo]

Secret Service protection for candidates doesn't show up until after the conventions IIRC.

For $100 million though? Trump better step his security game up big-time. That's enough money to get a serious player to take the bait. They might just be crazy enough to try it.

People on the deep web offer assassinations of political figures for 50k, let alone 100m (if the deep web assassins are real, which I don't know the answer to).

[Patrick Chewing]

You think Trump hasn't snuffed out a few people himself just to get a deal to go down?? Pffft this is pure comedy to Trump. Trump is probably a stone cold killer himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he already has a counter bounty in place.

[NumberSix]

Is the United States really going to stand for foreign criminals publicly putting a hit out on an American presidential candidate?

[Andrei89]

who would be easier to kill tho?

you kill chapo, and you will have the mexican cartel all over you.

You kill Trump, and you have the whole American Navy after you.

Cmon son :biggums:

[dazzer87]

Trump sucks but let's be real. He has more than twice as much dough as Chapo. Trump could just put out a $101 million hit back on him or buy him out and make him a personal servant.
:roll: :roll: :roll: You really believe this?

[Draz]

You kill Trump, and you have the whole American Navy after you.

Cmon son :biggums:
Before being president?

[9erempiree]

Lets be real here...El Chapo doesn't have all that money. What's he going to do, pay in cash?

Cash money doesn't get you much. What are you going to do, buy a home or car in cash and risk being reported to the IRS?

Remember that Chinese guy living in Mexico? He had billions of dollars in cold hard cash just hidden in his home. That shit became a burden and you can't wash that dirty money fast enough.

Have 20 family members allocate that money for you? Good luck.

[9erempiree]

:roll: :roll: :roll: You really believe this?

Yes.

Clean money in a bank or diversified into investments is better than 100 million hidden under a mattress.

[Draz]

Yes.

Clean money in a bank or diversified into investments is better than 100 million hidden under a mattress.
While I agree with you.. Wouldn't it be easier to empty out or spend dirty money that isn't traced back to you versus clean money?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Trump sucks but let's be real. He has more than twice as much dough as Chapo. Trump could just put out a $101 million hit back on him or buy him out and make him a personal servant.
Trump might know someone that knows someone that knows someone that would go have someone shot. This Chapo character on the other hand is surrounded by an army of thugs. Not sure who has more money but this isn't just about money.

[senelcoolidge]

This is actually a good sign for Trump. This shows that he's not corrupt. In third world countries when someone that is not corrupt becomes president they are either killed or eventually paid off. When bad guys threat you that means you're doing your job.

[9erempiree]

To be honest this is one of the funniest crap I've heard.

So Trump calls these illegal immigrants drug dealers and rapists. Then we have a notorious drug dealer putting a hit on him.

I love irony.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Lets be real here...El Chapo doesn't have all that money. What's he going to do, pay in cash?

Cash money doesn't get you much. What are you going to do, buy a home or car in cash and risk being reported to the IRS?

Remember that Chinese guy living in Mexico? He had billions of dollars in cold hard cash just hidden in his home. That shit became a burden and you can't wash that dirty money fast enough.

Have 20 family members allocate that money for you? Good luck.

It takes a special kind of dumbass to not only believe this shit, but to post it on a message board for all to see.

American, Mexican, Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts are awash with El Chapo's money. He could easily pay that money without leaving a trace.

[HitandRun Reggie]

You can spot the losers in this thread by who's sticking up for one washed up drug lord on the run.

[ThePhantomCreep]

You can spot the losers in this thread by who's sticking up for one washed up drug lord on the run.

You can spot the dummies by who's willing to put a national punchline like Donald Trump in the White House.

[NumberSix]

You can spot the losers in this thread by who's sticking up for one washed up drug lord on the run.
Lefties have a strange amount of respect for criminals.

[9erempiree]

You can spot the dummies by who's willing to put a national punchline like Donald Trump in the White House.

Let me guess you're a Mexican right?

[ArbitraryWater]

Jeff you on this? Would be able to afford some better servers then

[Draz]

Jeff you on this? Would be able to afford some better servers then
:roll:

[poido123]

Trump for president.


Make it happen.


I'm sure Donald has had death threats before, carry on.

[9erempiree]

Lefties have a strange amount of respect for criminals.

I agree with this or maybe he's Mexican. He probably watches Narcos and listen to their music of glorification. It's huge in the Mexican community especially in Los Angeles, seeing that is where he's from.

All this while living in the luxury of the US of A.

...or just a plain old Muslim because I've seen him going around in the Muslim threads spewing his rhetoric.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Let me guess you're a Mexican right?

Nope, but I find his xenophobic rants to be highly offensive. I despise bigotry and right-wing bigots in general.

[StephHamann]

Nope, but I find his xenophobic rants to be highly offensive. I despise bigotry and right-wing bigots in general.
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[9erempiree]

Nope, but I find his xenophobic rants to be highly offensive. I despise bigotry and right-wing bigots in general.

You despise what you think is bigotry to the point where you will side with a proven drug dealer?

I'm just saying because I know you are smarter than that.

[BoutPractice]

Isn't that something like 20 times what the US government (which ironically, might soon mean Trump) is asking for El Chapo?

It's odd, those gangsters usually have a lot of pride.

[ThePhantomCreep]

You despise what you think is bigotry to the point where you will side with a proven drug dealer?

I'm just saying because I know you are smarter than that.

Where did I advocate for the assassination of Donald Trump? El Chapo is a scumbag, but he's a well-organized (almost mogul-like) scumbag. He isn't hiding his money under the mattress, dude. He's hiding it where America's wealthy elite (like Trump) hides it.

[dubeta]

The cartel is powerful in Mexico, but worthless in the States


So.. unless Trump visits Mexico unarmed with no security, this bounty is worthless



What'll happen? 100 illegal mexicans enter Trump Tower trying to take out Donald Trump?? :oldlol:

[poido123]

The cartel is powerful in Mexico, but worthless in the States


So.. unless Trump visits Mexico unarmed with no security, this bounty is worthless



What'll happen? 100 illegal mexicans enter Trump Tower trying to take out Donald Trump?? :oldlol:



You really are that dumb :hammerhead:


But I'd expect that from someone who talks to himself and his legion of Alts.


Heard of a hitman? Don't you think that Trump leaves his tower? FFS you are stupid.

[Trollsmasher]

Trump is an elite Special Forces operator.

He is able to defend himself against anything El Chapo can put on him.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nope, but I find his xenophobic rants to be highly offensive. I despise bigotry and right-wing bigots in general.


Nothing he's said has ever been xenophobic or bigoted. You're just an uninformed idiot. One of those low-information voters that votes for the guy with the more street cred.

[longtime lurker]

Pretty sure this is one of those cases where Donald Trump could just say I'll double whatever he's paying you.

[Derka]

Pretty sure this is one of those cases where Donald Trump could just say I'll double whatever he's paying you.
Which is what he could say if he wasn't running for President.

As President, he could reply to something like this with "That's great Bro Chapo. Just a quick heads up, don't forget that the SEALs work for me, k?" and I would be totally behind him on that. I would support any President saying that.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Nothing he's said has ever been xenophobic or bigoted. You're just an uninformed idiot. One of those low-information voters that votes for the guy with the more street cred.

Coming from a Limbaugh puppet who wrote this:

You think Trump hasn't snuffed out a few people himself just to get a deal to go down?? Pffft this is pure comedy to Trump. Trump is probably a stone cold killer himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he already has a counter bounty in place.

If Trump isn't a xenophobe, he sure as hell panders to them.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Are people actually questioning El Chapo's wealth??

Just think of it this way...the Mexican Cartel smuggles $34 Billion worth cocaine every year into the US. Since El Chapo is the biggest smuggler of 'em all...we can safely assume his annual income is in the Billions!

[warriorfan]

Are people actually questioning El Chapo's wealth??

Just think of it this way...the Mexican Cartel smuggles $34 Billion worth cocaine every year into the US. Since El Chapo is the biggest smuggler of 'em all...we can safely assume his annual income is in the Billions!

:facepalm

[TheMan]

You kill Trump, and you have the whole American Navy after you.

Cmon son :biggums:
This guy :yaohappy:

[9erempiree]

Are people actually questioning El Chapo's wealth??

Just think of it this way...the Mexican Cartel smuggles $34 Billion worth cocaine every year into the US. Since El Chapo is the biggest smuggler of 'em all...we can safely assume his annual income is in the Billions!

Billions are pretty worthless in cash money. Don't get me wrong it would be nice having that much money but it gets to a point when they can't even wash that money. Lets not act like they are living the baller's life. Most likely living like middle class people with a shit load of mattress money.

Money is no good when you can't spend it. You know he lives on the low-low and can't even appreciate all that money. He would definitely help a lot of people around him by handing them some brick money.

Who knows, maybe he has money hiding in oversea accounts, most likely in 2nd world banks, but hiding money in Swiss accounts is not the same anymore.

A couple of years ago, America made a deal with Swiss financial institutions to report earnings for people looking for a tax haven there.

It's a good problem to have but a garage full of paper can be a burden and the paranoia that comes with it.

[TheMan]

Billions are pretty worthless in cash money. Don't get me wrong it would be nice having that much money but it gets to a point when they can't even wash that money. Lets not act like they are living the baller's life. Most likely living like middle class people with a shit load of mattress money.

Money is no good when you can't spend it. You know he lives on the low-low and can't even appreciate all that money. He would definitely help a lot of people around him by handing them some brick money.

Who knows, maybe he has money hiding in oversea accounts, most likely in 2nd world banks, but hiding money in Swiss accounts is not the same anymore.

A couple of years ago, America made a deal with Swiss financial institutions to report earnings for people looking for a tax haven there.

It's a good problem to have but a garage full of paper can be a burden and the paranoia that comes with it.
Actually, this is pretty wrong.

El Chapo is known to live a lavish lifestyle, he certainly isn't living in caves :yaohappy:

He is known to frequent the hottest nightclubs, restuarants and resorts. He has a ton of people on his payroll. There is speculation that people in the highest levels of the government knew he was about to escape and they did nothing to stop it. He isn't exactly hiding really good because there are always reports that he was seen at a certain location and just as the police/army arrive to "arrest" him, poof, he's gone just in time. Riiiiight

He has a ton of money, and you know the slogan, money talks bullshit walks. The charade of him being on the run is just that, he isn't going to be captured during Pe

[iamgine]

He should be called El Cheapo.

[oarabbus]

You don't really believe that Trump has more money than Chapo do you?


:roll: :roll: :roll: You really believe this?

El Chump Change has a net worth of $1 billion and Trump has $4 billion. My bad, he's worth 4x as much not just 2x.


who would be easier to kill tho?

you kill chapo, and you will have the mexican cartel all over you.


Trump might know someone that knows someone that knows someone that would go have someone shot. This Chapo character on the other hand is surrounded by an army of thugs. Not sure who has more money but this isn't just about money.


Yeah, I agree with you guys here.



Jeff you on this? Would be able to afford some better servers then

:roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:




Anyway... to anyone licking El Chapo's nuts, this is a guy who has had hundreds if not thousands of people killed, including collateral damage of innocent men, women, and children. Entire villages taken out, full of people living an honest life shot dead. Just because the cops in that town were trying to stop the drug trade and prevent Chapo going from $1 billion to $1.1 billion. I think Trump is a dumbass but go take a look in the mirror if you are idolzing El Chapo's just because you think he's cool for escaping jail and having gold plated revolvers. At least Pablo Escobar built schools and hospitals and gave back to poor communities. What a joke.

[Nick Young]

Killing Donald Trump and turning him in to a rally point and a martyr is not the answer to El Chapo's problems.

[Bless Mathews]

El Chump Change has a net worth of $1 billion and Trump has $4 billion. My bad, he's worth 4x as much not just 2x.






Yeah, I agree with you guys here.




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Anyway... to anyone licking El Chapo's nuts, this is a guy who has had hundreds if not thousands of people killed, including collateral damage of innocent men, women, and children. Entire villages taken out, full of people living an honest life shot dead. Just because the cops in that town were trying to stop the drug trade and prevent Chapo going from $1 billion to $1.1 billion. I think Trump is a dumbass but go take a look in the mirror if you are idolzing El Chapo's just because you think he's cool for escaping jail and having gold plated revolvers. At least Pablo Escobar built schools and hospitals and gave back to poor communities. What a joke.

:roll:

"Worth" 4 billion.

Oh ok.

There's a huge difference between "net worth" and liquid assets.

:facepalm

And trust, chapo got more than a billion.

Do debt or loans for chapo to get his "net worth " up.

EVERYTHING cashed out. Paid.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

I need my ISH wolves the ones BOUT that lyfe to report in. We CAN do this, split the cash between us. Only REAL nikkas allowed PM me and we will cook up the gameplan:applause:

[BlakFrankWhite]

El Chump Change has a net worth of $1 billion and Trump has $4 billion. My bad, he's worth 4x as much not just 2x.






Yeah, I agree with you guys here.




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Anyway... to anyone licking El Chapo's nuts, this is a guy who has had hundreds if not thousands of people killed, including collateral damage of innocent men, women, and children. Entire villages taken out, full of people living an honest life shot dead. Just because the cops in that town were trying to stop the drug trade and prevent Chapo going from $1 billion to $1.1 billion. I think Trump is a dumbass but go take a look in the mirror if you are idolzing El Chapo's just because you think he's cool for escaping jail and having gold plated revolvers. At least Pablo Escobar built schools and hospitals and gave back to poor communities. What a joke.

Strange tho...when he escaped in 2001..his net worth was $1 Billion...in 2011 his net worth was $1 Bills..he didn't earn a single dollar in 10 years!!!!.

Who estimates this stuff anyway? 'Forbes'??? Didn't know Chapo files his income and tax returns :roll:

Like I said, $34 Billion worth of cocaine are smuggled into this country..and the Sinaloa Cartel controls about 70% of the drug trade and routes..including the Juarez route which brings in $200 million per week. By all accounts he has surpassed Escobar in both wealth and amounts of coke smuggled into US..its just that he keeps a low profile...hell, he's killed several associates for keeping a high profile.

I hope you're trolling..because I thought you were a good poster

[BlakFrankWhite]

Billions are pretty worthless in cash money. Don't get me wrong it would be nice having that much money but it gets to a point when they can't even wash that money. Lets not act like they are living the baller's life. Most likely living like middle class people with a shit load of mattress money.

Money is no good when you can't spend it. You know he lives on the low-low and can't even appreciate all that money. He would definitely help a lot of people around him by handing them some brick money.

Who knows, maybe he has money hiding in oversea accounts, most likely in 2nd world banks, but hiding money in Swiss accounts is not the same anymore.

A couple of years ago, America made a deal with Swiss financial institutions to report earnings for people looking for a tax haven there.

It's a good problem to have but a garage full of paper can be a burden and the paranoia that comes with it.

Its not like breaking bad where he buries his money..and notes down the co-ordinates...these guys own hundreds of companies to launder the money....and they bribe the tax officials to look the other way.

El Chapo really taken a page out of the Sicilian Mafia...." Make shitloads of money, but keep a low profile"...and its worked out well for him.

[9erempiree]

I don't know why people worship and look up to this guy. You have to remember he's poisoning the people of our country.

It's one thing to do it and help your people but if has so much this so-called money and not helping his own country, then that should say a lot about him.

[BlakFrankWhite]

I don't know why people worship and look up to this guy. You have to remember he's poisoning the people of our country.

It's one thing to do it and help your people but if has so much this so-called money and not helping his own country, then that should say a lot about him.

Nah, I think all Mafia Boss/ drug lords are scum...

But their stories and rise to power are fascinating...like El Chapo was a fruit seller in his youth...now he's multi-billionaire and the most wanted man on the planet

[GIF REACTION]

They just taking advantage of opportunities just like other major corporations do. To me whether it's good or bad is irrelevant. All about risk versus reward. Morals are for the weak.

[TheMan]

D
I don't know why people worship and look up to this guy. You have to remember he's poisoning the people of our country.

It's one thing to do it and help your people but if has so much this so-called money and not helping his own country, then that should say a lot about him.
People who want to do drugs will do so whether they're legal or not...El Chapo isn't forcing anyone to take drugs against their will :confusedshrug:

I'm not defending the guy, him and his type have caused havoc in my country but do you know who I blame mostly? The degenerate drug addicted American public. If El Chapo gets whacked today, that isn't gonna make the drug cartels disappear.

As long as there is a market clamoring for drugs, there will someone to provide them. You guys needs to do something about your voracious hunger for drugs and your violent loving culture that has made guns widely available to the thugs south of the border. Them gun manufacturers in 'Murrica sure aren't complaining though.

[9erempiree]

D
People who want to do drugs will do so whether they're legal or not...El Chapo isn't forcing anyone to take drugs against their will :confusedshrug:

I'm not defending the guy, him and his type have caused havoc in my country but do you know who I blame mostly? The degenerate drug addicted American public. If El Chapo gets whacked today, that isn't gonna make the drug cartels disappear.

As long as there is a market clamoring for drugs, there will someone to provide them. You guys needs to do something about your voracious hunger for drugs and your violent loving culture that has made guns widely available to the thugs south of the border. Them gun manufacturers in 'Murrica sure aren't complaining though.

I disagree because nobody has a 'voracious hunger for drugs'. It's a learned behavior. Nobody was born with the behavior to consume drugs. It's the accessibility of drugs that is imported to allow unsuspecting Americans to become dependent on it.

It's not just Americans, you can say that for any country in the world and their population that would be addicted if given the chance.

Why is it that the biggest exporter of illegal drugs happen to be Mexico? Mexicans are poisoning the people of the world because they, also have to survive. They just chose the drug trade.

Now imagine if a bunch of Mexicans were to create the 'dream taco', something that I adore btw, I would be on it like an American on crack. Would that not be better?

[ThePhantomCreep]

I disagree because nobody has a 'voracious hunger for drugs'. It's a learned behavior. Nobody was born with the behavior to consume drugs. It's the accessibility of drugs that is imported to allow unsuspecting Americans to become dependent on it.

It's not just Americans, you can say that for any country in the world and their population that would be addicted if given the chance.

Why is it that the biggest exporter of illegal drugs happen to be Mexico? Mexicans are poisoning the people of the world because they, also have to survive. They just chose the drug trade.

Now imagine if a bunch of Mexicans were to create the 'dream taco', something that I adore btw, I would be on it like an American on crack. Would that not be better?

Strong grasp of supply and demand :whatever:

Mexican cartels are thriving because their neighbors to the North have an insatiable appetite for drugs--meth use, for example, was an epidemic in the US long before Mexico emerged as the top source for the drug.

[Clifton]

Is the United States really going to stand for foreign criminals publicly putting a hit out on an American presidential candidate?
Well, in this case...

The whole Trump campaign has this strong scent of unreality to it. I don't think anyone will take anything too seriously until / unless he actually gets the nomination. Once that happens, he could actually win, especially because of how shaky the Democrats look right now, with Hillary in legal trouble and no other relevant candidates.

Still, the media should not report this.

[Clifton]

Another reason the media should not report this, in addition to increasing the likelihood that an assassination is attempted, is that it will help Trump's campaign. The "build a wall" thing, ridiculous in itself as almost the entirety of his platform, will appear much more credible if it seems like there actually is dangerous stuff to keep out.

[TheMan]

I disagree because nobody has a 'voracious hunger for drugs'. It's a learned behavior. Nobody was born with the behavior to consume drugs. It's the accessibility of drugs that is imported to allow unsuspecting Americans to become dependent on it.

It's not just Americans, you can say that for any country in the world and their population that would be addicted if given the chance.

Why is it that the biggest exporter of illegal drugs happen to be Mexico? Mexicans are poisoning the people of the world because they, also have to survive. They just chose the drug trade.

Now imagine if a bunch of Mexicans were to create the 'dream taco', something that I adore btw, I would be on it like an American on crack. Would that not be better?
That is absolute horseshit. Cigarettes and alcohol are readily available, hell, they're even legal yet I choose not to smoke or become a drunk :confusedshrug: We all have a choice, no one is forcing anyone to smoke, drink or do drugs. And fvck peer pressure, if you can't be a man and make your own decisions, then just pack it in, beta.

While drugs may be readily available, you have to actively seek them out, they aren't being sold at corner stores with big neon lights advertising crack :yaohappy:

If that's your reason for why Americans are so addicted, then explain why Mexico doesn't have the same or worse addiction rates, drugs are even more readily available plus cheaper. I could easily buy a brick of decent Mexican weed for $40 but I choose not to.

Here's the reason, and I'm gonna give it to you straight...y'all just a ****ed up society. That's it. Blame the breakdown of the traditional family, the rampant consumerism or the extreme focus on individuality over the common good or whatever, y'all just some broken human beings. It sounds rough but it's true, something is seriously wrong with y'all.

Explain why you produce so many ****ed people who go on suicide mass murder rampages. It doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like it does in America, not even close. Mexico's violence has a reason behind it, it's a power struggle over money, that's it. The US just has so many random and senseless murders that something is just not right. That's why you guys are addicted to drugs, to get away from reality. I've no idea why but that's my take.

Simply put, I wouldn't raise my kids in American society, hell no. My wife agrees with me 100%. That's why me and my wife are putting in the work so that my children will never have to go to the US except for business trips or vacation.

Y'all addicted to drugs because something is missing in your lives...

[9erempiree]

That is absolute horseshit. Cigarettes and alcohol are readily available, hell, they're even legal yet I choose not to smoke or become a drunk :confusedshrug: We all have a choice, no one is forcing anyone to smoke, drink or do drugs. And fvck peer pressure, if you can't be a man and make your own decisions, then just pack it in, beta.

While drugs may be readily available, you have to actively seek them out, they aren't being sold at corner stores with big neon lights advertising crack :yaohappy:

If that's your reason for why Americans are so addicted, then explain why Mexico doesn't have the same or worse addiction rates, drugs are even more readily available plus cheaper. I could easily buy a brick of decent Mexican weed for $40 but I choose not to.

Here's the reason, and I'm gonna give it to you straight...y'all just a ****ed up society. That's it. Blame the breakdown of the traditional family, the rampant consumerism or the extreme focus on individuality over the common good or whatever, y'all just some broken human beings. It sounds rough but it's true, something is seriously wrong with y'all.

Explain why you produce so many ****ed people who go on suicide mass murder rampages. It doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like it does in America, not even close. Mexico's violence has a reason behind it, it's a power struggle over money, that's it. The US just has so many random and senseless murders that something is just not right. That's why you guys are addicted to drugs, to get away from reality. I've no idea why but that's my take.

Simply put, I wouldn't raise my kids in American society, hell no. My wife agrees with me 100%. That's why me and my wife are putting in the work so that my children will never have to go to the US except for business trips or vacation.

Y'all addicted to drugs because something is missing in your lives...


Cigarettes and alcohol are consumed normally. Kids grew up seeing their parents consume it, therefore they either do it, or not do it, depending on what they witnessed. It could have been bad or good.

When the Mexicans and Colombians forced cocaine on the American public it became an epidemic. Like I said, Americans had no idea of this 'coco' and perhaps they were ignorant enough to think that it was harmless, but they went ahead and tried it, thinking it was normal like alcohol or cigarettes.

What it did was cause an epidemic. It got the public to get hooked on something they thought was as normal as cigs and booze.

As for why Mexicans didn't get hooked on drugs...well, it's really simple, they know it's bad for them but they are fine with Americans doing it as long as it keeps their economy flowing.

As for F'd up society and consumerism, that is a matter of opinion. We all consume no matter the continent we live on.

As for why 'so many F'd up people'? I don't know where you are getting it but perhaps it could be the Mexicans that that are sneaking over here to poison the people?:confusedshrug:

You shouldn't raise your kid in America. Leave them at home. How can you live with yourself knowing that you have such a great life here and they are in shit-Mexico. Admit it, its better to have your family in the States than it is in Mexico.

We're addicted to drugs because some dumb Mexican named Chapo is feeding our people with this shit.

Ever heard of the Opium War? How the British F'd the Chinese up with an addiction and then came conquering?

EDIT: sorry for the horrible spelling and grammar, just got home and blitzed, it wasn't cocaine though.

[9erempiree]

BTW...I love America and immigrants.

The comment about your family coming over is sincere. You and I know the best for your kids is to be raised and attend all those great colleges here.

Again, I apologize for bringing your family in an argument. That is not my intention. :cheers:

[9erempiree]

BTW...I love America and immigrants.

The comment about your family coming over is sincere. You and I know the best for your kids is to be raised and attend all those great colleges here.

Again, I apologize for bringing your family in an argument. That is not my intention. :cheers:

What I do admire is how you are busting your ass off for your family.

[UK2K]

Another reason the media should not report this, in addition to increasing the likelihood that an assassination is attempted, is that it will help Trump's campaign. The "build a wall" thing, ridiculous in itself as almost the entirety of his platform, will appear much more credible if it seems like there actually is dangerous stuff to keep out.
As dozens of countries are building walls all along their borders all across the globe :lol

[UK2K]

That is absolute horseshit. Cigarettes and alcohol are readily available, hell, they're even legal yet I choose not to smoke or become a drunk :confusedshrug: We all have a choice, no one is forcing anyone to smoke, drink or do drugs. And fvck peer pressure, if you can't be a man and make your own decisions, then just pack it in, beta.

While drugs may be readily available, you have to actively seek them out, they aren't being sold at corner stores with big neon lights advertising crack :yaohappy:

If that's your reason for why Americans are so addicted, then explain why Mexico doesn't have the same or worse addiction rates, drugs are even more readily available plus cheaper. I could easily buy a brick of decent Mexican weed for $40 but I choose not to.

Here's the reason, and I'm gonna give it to you straight...y'all just a ****ed up society. That's it. Blame the breakdown of the traditional family, the rampant consumerism or the extreme focus on individuality over the common good or whatever, y'all just some broken human beings. It sounds rough but it's true, something is seriously wrong with y'all.

Explain why you produce so many ****ed people who go on suicide mass murder rampages. It doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like it does in America, not even close. Mexico's violence has a reason behind it, it's a power struggle over money, that's it. The US just has so many random and senseless murders that something is just not right. That's why you guys are addicted to drugs, to get away from reality. I've no idea why but that's my take.

Simply put, I wouldn't raise my kids in American society, hell no. My wife agrees with me 100%. That's why me and my wife are putting in the work so that my children will never have to go to the US except for business trips or vacation.

Y'all addicted to drugs because something is missing in your lives...

America is soft now. Soft and weak and feeble and a place where everyone needs to be a victim of something.

Soft ass liberals and bleeding heart mentality. We are like Rome, rotting from the inside out with corruption and weakness.

[senelcoolidge]

America is looking more and more like a corrupt third world country. It's getting worse. I've been to third world countries. Someone needs to step in and clean house. They will be met with resistance, don't be surprised if there is an assassination attempt if the next President is legit.

[Draz]

Ok. So. You kill trump, and then what? Like it's even humanely possible to kill him and bring him back or even prove you're the one to claim the money? Bs no. Who'd actually risk it.

[TripleA]

America is soft now. Soft and weak and feeble and a place where everyone needs to be a victim of something.

Soft ass liberals and bleeding heart mentality. We are like Rome, rotting from the inside out with corruption and weakness.

Yeah I see no problem with deporting illegal immigrants reasonably.
But we should have a balance between strength and accessibility.
Its funny that people call America racist country when compared to places in Europe, Africa and Asia we are much better. In North Africa slavery is being practiced by the arabs their still to this day. Especially in Sudan where the Arabs think of the blacks as akin to dogs. In Somalia they hate each other over being in a different clan.

[UK2K]

Ok. So. You kill trump, and then what? Like it's even humanely possible to kill him and bring him back or even prove you're the one to claim the money? Bs no. Who'd actually risk it.
I'd be willing to bet he probably has the best security team money can buy.

Seriously. He doesn't just put ads in the paper, his team will no doubt be highly recommend, and will all have SF as well as PSD skills.

Good luck getting to him.

[Canelo_Griffin]

It's kinda cringe that people actually believe Chapo gives any **** about Trump, considering the average Mexican immigrant doesn't feel strongly about Trump's comments other than an indifferent "ese wey me la pela" aka "**** that n*gga".

As for "worshiping" el Chapo, I wouldn't call it worshiping but it's no secret that most Mexican people that come from humble agricultural beginnings (e.i. Almost all Mexican immigrants) see him in positive light. I know people especially those from Zacatecas that have personally told me that Chapo's cartel have cleansed their small towns of Zetas, who are the real scum of Mexico. The Zetas actually mess with people by extorting, kidnapping and straight up ransacking their property.

Chapo's people come to town and actually let the town's people know that they are not there to mess with the people and to let them know if someone is taking advantage of them and they will take care of the problem.
This is a well known fact among Mexicans but obviously the media won't report on it because they have nothing to gain from it.

[Draz]

If you're Hispanic or your parents were immigrants, your grandparents were immigrants, you should feel slightly offended. People came here to have a better life and most definitely many succeeded. I can give plenty examples. Immigrants built this country. The fear in Americans like Trump, is the idea that first or second generation children of immigrants or immigrants themselves can be competition. And they very will be.

Obama said it himself, we educate immigrants only to send them back home to compete against ourselves.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Cigarettes and alcohol are consumed normally. Kids grew up seeing their parents consume it, therefore they either do it, or not do it, depending on what they witnessed. It could have been bad or good.

When the Mexicans and Colombians forced cocaine on the American public it became an epidemic. Like I said, Americans had no idea of this 'coco' and perhaps they were ignorant enough to think that it was harmless, but they went ahead and tried it, thinking it was normal like alcohol or cigarettes.

What it did was cause an epidemic. It got the public to get hooked on something they thought was as normal as cigs and booze.

As for why Mexicans didn't get hooked on drugs...well, it's really simple, they know it's bad for them but they are fine with Americans doing it as long as it keeps their economy flowing.

As for F'd up society and consumerism, that is a matter of opinion. We all consume no matter the continent we live on.

As for why 'so many F'd up people'? I don't know where you are getting it but perhaps it could be the Mexicans that that are sneaking over here to poison the people?:confusedshrug:

You shouldn't raise your kid in America. Leave them at home. How can you live with yourself knowing that you have such a great life here and they are in shit-Mexico. Admit it, its better to have your family in the States than it is in Mexico.

We're addicted to drugs because some dumb Mexican named Chapo is feeding our people with this shit.

Ever heard of the Opium War? How the British F'd the Chinese up with an addiction and then came conquering?

EDIT: sorry for the horrible spelling and grammar, just got home and blitzed, it wasn't cocaine though.


:biggums: The "War on Drugs" predates Pablo Escobar, nevermind El Chapo.

Arguing that citizens in a generally aflluent, first-world nation are somehow being duped into consuming drugs is just :facepalm . Even if this were true (and it isn't), you're not helping America shake its reputation as being a nation full of dumbasses.


According to the Dec. 26, 1922 edition of the New York Times, five people were killed in the city on Christmas Day from drinking "poisoned rum." That was only the beginning. By 1926, according to Prohibition, by Edward Behr, 750 New Yorkers perished from such poisoning and hundreds of thousands more suffered irreversible injuries including blindness and paralysis.

That's right, folks. Americans during Prohibition were willing to risk blindness, paralysis, and death to get a sip of the Devil's Brew. Why do you think Prohibition came about in the first place? We were a nation full of drunkards.

But yeah, Mexico is totally addicting unsuspecting Baby Jesus-fearing Americans with their wicked drugs. It's all their fault. :lol

[oarabbus]

Strange tho...when he escaped in 2001..his net worth was $1 Billion...in 2011 his net worth was $1 Bills..he didn't earn a single dollar in 10 years!!!!.

Who estimates this stuff anyway? 'Forbes'??? Didn't know Chapo files his income and tax returns :roll:

Like I said, $34 Billion worth of cocaine are smuggled into this country..and the Sinaloa Cartel controls about 70% of the drug trade and routes..including the Juarez route which brings in $200 million per week. By all accounts he has surpassed Escobar in both wealth and amounts of coke smuggled into US..its just that he keeps a low profile...hell, he's killed several associates for keeping a high profile.

I hope you're trolling..because I thought you were a good poster


Hmm... I didn't know that. That changes things.

I think the $34 billion figure is what the DEA prices the drugs on the street. Which is very different than the actual money the suppliers make. The $34 billion figure is what they estimate when the X amount of smuggled cocaine gets charged 10X when they give it to wholesalers, 100X when they smuggle it into the US, and then 1000X after it gets stepped on a dozen times. Chapo himself isn't getting $1bil/year, rather that's the total value of the drugs he smuggles on the street.

But you have a good point about the estimation if they he was supposedly worth the same a decade apart.

Either way though I see lots of people idolizing El Chapo when its like man, look at how much misery and suffering he causes in the world. And it's a lot of Mexicans who idolize him too. Escobar was considered a national hero because he actually helped out the sick, poor, and underprivileged. Chapo just lays waste wherever he goes.

[andgar923]

You guys seriously arguing what his net worth is?

Perhaps his accountant should be contacted to verify shit.

[TheMan]

Cigarettes and alcohol are consumed normally. Kids grew up seeing their parents consume it, therefore they either do it, or not do it, depending on what they witnessed. It could have been bad or good.

When the Mexicans and Colombians forced cocaine on the American public it became an epidemic. Like I said, Americans had no idea of this 'coco' and perhaps they were ignorant enough to think that it was harmless, but they went ahead and tried it, thinking it was normal like alcohol or cigarettes.

What it did was cause an epidemic. It got the public to get hooked on something they thought was as normal as cigs and booze.

As for why Mexicans didn't get hooked on drugs...well, it's really simple, they know it's bad for them but they are fine with Americans doing it as long as it keeps their economy flowing.

As for F'd up society and consumerism, that is a matter of opinion. We all consume no matter the continent we live on.

As for why 'so many F'd up people'? I don't know where you are getting it but perhaps it could be the Mexicans that that are sneaking over here to poison the people?:confusedshrug:

You shouldn't raise your kid in America. Leave them at home. How can you live with yourself knowing that you have such a great life here and they are in shit-Mexico. Admit it, its better to have your family in the States than it is in Mexico.

We're addicted to drugs because some dumb Mexican named Chapo is feeding our people with this shit.

Ever heard of the Opium War? How the British F'd the Chinese up with an addiction and then came conquering?

EDIT: sorry for the horrible spelling and grammar, just got home and blitzed, it wasn't cocaine though.
To the first bolded part, PhantomCreep already took care of that juvenile and simplistic explanation of yours.

To the second, look dude, I'm sick of you calling my country "shit". I have enough respect for America to not throw derogatory words like you always do to Mexico. It's a developing nation next to the most powerful nation on Earth but it's not a shithole. It has the 13th strongest economy in the world, out of more than 200 countries. We have a poverty problem but so does every country.

We have more than 120 million people in Mexico and the vast majority aren't trying to get to the US. The majority of the people coming from Mexico are doing solely for economic reasons, they aren't leaving Mexico because they are leaving a nightmare situation. Most who are coming are rural peoples who have been displaced by NAFTA and it's consequences. They don't have the skills to work in cities so they come to America to work the fields or other jobs lazy Americans don't want to do. That's it, plain and simple, in fact, most actually go back home after working some years in the US, they gather some money and start a business of their own.

Lastly, and being honest, American society is rotting from it's core. I'm not a sociologist so I
can't tell you for sure what's wrong but I can speculate that the breakdown of the American family has a lot to do with your dysfunctional society. Rampant feminism? Emasculating the American male? One parent households? I don't know but those things don't happen in Mexico. We just have different cultures. We value family unity very highly, we take care of our elderly (we don't throw them to the old folks home), kids stay at home until they get married, parents aren't trying to get rid of them as soon as they turn 18 and they aren't trying to leave as soon as they can. We have extended families and we value that too. We don't place a huge emphasis on material goods, in the end, other things are more important.

I don't know why you guys produce so many more people with mental issuse who go bezerk, and are hooked on illegal or legal drugs. That's why I wouldn't dream of raising my kids in a broken society.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8PbzrCbr4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

BTW, here's the "hell hole" my family is currently living at. It's a safe, clean, colonial yet modern city, me and my wife are completely happy there. There is a lot of money in that city (industry is huge) and a lot of Americans, Europeans and Asians living there too. Inform yourself you stupid troll before you accuse me of living great here and leaving my family in "shit" Mexico...troll.

[UK2K]

If you're Hispanic or your parents were immigrants, your grandparents were immigrants, you should feel slightly offended. People came here to have a better life and most definitely many succeeded. I can give plenty examples. Immigrants built this country. The fear in Americans like Trump, is the idea that first or second generation children of immigrants or immigrants themselves can be competition. And they very will be.

Obama said it himself, we educate immigrants only to send them back home to compete against ourselves.

You forgot the word illegal.

Nobody cares about immigrants. My step mother is a legal citizen, as of about four years ago, born in Bogota. I don't want to send her back.

ILLEGAL immigrants. Don't try to play with words.

[Draz]

You forgot the word illegal.

Nobody cares about immigrants. My step mother is a legal citizen, as of about four years ago, born in Bogota. I don't want to send her back.

ILLEGAL immigrants. Don't try to play with words.
I'm pretty illegal, yall wanna send me back right

[NumberSix]

You forgot the word illegal.

Nobody cares about immigrants. My step mother is a legal citizen, as of about four years ago, born in Bogota. I don't want to send her back.

ILLEGAL immigrants. Don't try to play with words.
This.

And people need to drop this "they do it for a better life" line. Yes. We understand that. People do lots of illegal things to attain a better life. I'm sure stealing money from a bank will give you a better life than you would have without that money. That doesn't negate the illegality of it.

[Draz]

I'll get the banana boat ready

[Canelo_Griffin]

This.

And people need to drop this "they do it for a better life" line. Yes. We understand that. People do lots of illegal things to attain a better life. I'm sure stealing money from a bank will give you a better life than you would have without that money. That doesn't negate the illegality of it.

Lol damn. Do you mind sharing a little about your background. Age, type of work you do and state you live in? Ive always been interested what type of people have this illogical mentality, no offense.

I ask cus the people ive personally interacted with that feel strongly against "illegal" immigrants (cmon lets face it you just don't like the idea of Mexicans living around you) are what people would call "white trash". Most white people that have their shit together don't worry about "illegals" here in southern California because they live in neighborhoods where they don't have to interact with them unless they're mowing their lawn, making their food, cleaning their house etc. at a cheap price. In other words, they benefit from having "illegal" immigrants.

And don't come at me with that they don't pay tax bullshit. A lot of them do and every time they purchase something they pay tax on it too. If you really care so much about our country's budget let's complain about the trillions being literally wasted on a really unnecessary war on terror. And not the billions that "are spent" on illegals where there is actual benefits to the situation.

[Draz]

Lol damn. Do you mind sharing a little about your background. Age, type of work you do and state you live in? Ive always been interested what type of people have this illogical mentality, no offense.

I ask cus the people ive personally interacted with that feel strongly against "illegal" immigrants (cmon lets face it you just don't like the idea of Mexicans living around you) are what people would call "white trash". Most white people that have their shit together don't worry about "illegals" here in southern California because they live in neighborhoods where they don't have to interact with them unless they're mowing their lawn, making their food, cleaning their house etc. at a cheap price. In other words, they benefit from having "illegal" immigrants.

And don't come at me with that they don't pay tax bullshit. A lot of them do and every time they purchase something they pay tax on it too. If you really care so much about our country's budget let's complain about the trillions being literally wasted on a really unnecessary war on terror. And not the billions that "are spent" on illegals where there is actual benefits to the situation.


Lol don't waste your time explaining to people who aren't capable of changing how they view things. Literally it's a one way street. It's exactly why I stay away from discussions and debates like this because it brings the nasty out of people you don't want to view as dirty or disgusting.

I know people who's in the country for over 20 years and aren't legal yet. People come here in 1-5 years and are documented legally. What makes them any legal or any different than someone else? What should be said and done is the prevention of any MORE undocumented illegals entering without a visa. Not discriminating those who aren't here legally already.

Like I said I can't touch this topic. It's inhumane to even discuss it to me. I've seen people struggle to survive here and any arrogant answer would be go home and make a living. But, at one point don't you realize they'd rather struggle here to find work and survive than go back to where they came from? It's the hope to one day achieve a position higher than what they came from and could of gotten from their native countries.

What about the children who were forced to come here? Oh.. We only care about our children and our family. Because my kids and my relatives are assured jobs when their at that age and time to aquire one.

[Canelo_Griffin]

Lol don't waste your time explaining to people who aren't capable of changing how they view things. Literally it's a one way street. It's exactly why I stay away from discussions and debates like this because it brings the nasty out of people you don't want to view as dirty or disgusting.

I know people who's in the country for over 20 years and aren't legal yet. People come here in 1-5 years and are documented legally. What makes them any legal or any different than someone else? What should be said and done is the prevention of any MORE undocumented illegals entering without a visa. Not discriminating those who aren't here legally already.

Like I said I can't touch this topic. It's inhumane to even discuss it to me. I've seen people struggle to survive here and any arrogant answer would be go home and make a living. But, at one point don't you realize they'd rather struggle here to find work and survive than go back to where they came from? It's the hope to one day achieve a position higher than what they came from and could of gotten from their native countries.

What about the children who were forced to come here? Oh.. We only care about our children and our family. Because my kids and my relatives are assured jobs when their at that age and time to aquire one.

Yea I'm very conflicted about the whole illegal immigration topic because I have directly benefited from my parents illegally immigrating here and being born in this country that has given me the opportunity to achieve everything I have. However, I understand that illegal immigration isn't sustainable anywhere and there should be a line drawn somewhere. I'm not sure who has the right to determine that line in this country though.

It may sound clich

[NumberSix]

Yea I'm very conflicted about the whole illegal immigration topic because I have directly benefited from my parents illegally immigrating here and being born in this country that has given me the opportunity to achieve everything I have. However, I understand that illegal immigration isn't sustainable anywhere and there should be a line drawn somewhere. I'm not sure who has the right to determine that line in this country though.
The voters.

[quote]It may sound clich

[Nick Young]

Lol damn. Do you mind sharing a little about your background. Age, type of work you do and state you live in? Ive always been interested what type of people have this illogical mentality, no offense.
How is it illogical? It's 100% logical.

I for example would love to live in Norway. I would love to move there and obtain all of the nice benefits that Norwegian citizens have. I know I will have a better life in Norway than the life I have now. I will make more money and have a higher standard of living there.

I can either apply for a visa, or sneak in and live illegally. I'm doing it for a better life brah!

Everyone wants a better life. That is no justification for sneaking in to and illegally working in countries. If you want to be in America so badly, apply for immigration status correctly. Follow the rules. Just because you sneak in to a country illegally, it doesn't mean you should be entitled to live there for the rest of your life and get all the benefits American citizens do.

I don't blame or vilify illegal immigrants. A lot of times I respect them as many are entrepreneurial and create jobs for themselves and work hard to get by. That doesn't mean I think they should be allowed and entitled to live here. They should follow the rules and not cheat the system.

The only illogical person here is you. Your argument is based entirely on emotion, and relies on logical fallacies, the opposite of logic.



According to the U.S. Census Bureau, at least one third of foreign born citizens in the United States are illegal aliens. Since children born in the United States are considered U.S. Citizens, it becomes complicated when illegal aliens then bear children who are U.S. Citizens.

If the U.S. government sent the parents of these children away, we would be separating families. Now that these families have given birth to U.S. citizens, the families are eligible for benefits such as WIC and food stamps. Benefits such as these are for low income families. Illegal aliens often work in low paying jobs so they now qualify for benefits.

Illegal immigrants enter the country by overstaying their visa. Officers of the law do not make it a habit to stop people and ask to see their papers. What this means is that if a person overstays their visa, they can find ways to work and receive benefits.

Another way illegal aliens enter the U.S. is by using forged documents. If people at port authorities, international airports, and border crossings are not catching forged documents, foreign citizens have just entered the U.S. without question.

Once illegal immigrants arrive, they buy forged documents saying they are U.S. citizens. The only way to stop this is to crack down on those who make and sell forged documents. If employers, state, and federal agencies cannot tell a forged document from a real document, then of course illegal aliens will receive benefits.

Law Dictionary: Why is it that Illegal Aliens Get Free Food Stamps, Health Insurance and Pay No Taxes?

http://thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/

[KNOW1EDGE]

It's pretty easy to spot the posters who have family members, or are themselves illegal immigrants.

[Clifton]

As dozens of countries are building walls all along their borders all across the globe
I'm not saying building some kind of wall or having real border protection is a bad thing. Illegal immigration is illegal: it should either be legal immigration, or it shouldn't be tolerated. One or the other.

My point is that the only coherent platform point Trump seems to have is border protection. Which is like 2% of the issues he'll have to deal with if he becomes president.

So when he does become president, he will have to rely on advisors 100%, without any knowledge or opinions about any other issues. In other words advisors will be running our country, and we don't get to elect those.

Advisors got us into Iraq. Advisors also induced Obama to tack the HHG mandate onto Obamacare, which is going to either shut down many Christian charities and business and college, or force them to act against their religious convictions. I don't like advisors running my country. I like my president to have opinions of his own. Even if I don't like their opinions, at least I know what's coming, and who to vote for.

[9erempiree]

Chapo's people come to town and actually let the town's people know that they are not there to mess with the people and to let them know if someone is taking advantage of them and they will take care of the problem.
This is a well known fact among Mexicans but obviously the media won't report on it because they have nothing to gain from it.

Of course the media is not going to report that. That's not news bro.

yea...lets report how great a drug lord is.:rolleyes:

[Draz]

It's pretty easy to spot the posters who have family members, or are themselves illegal immigrants.
Like I said. I'm getting my banana boat ready
Take my talents back to Mexico

[9erempiree]

Like I said. I'm getting my banana boat ready
Take my talents back to Mexico

Just don't get your back wet.

[Draz]

Just don't get your back wet.
I'm bringing you with me

[Canelo_Griffin]

How is it illogical? It's 100% logical.

I for example would love to live in Norway. I would love to move there and obtain all of the nice benefits that Norwegian citizens have. I know I will have a better life in Norway than the life I have now. I will make more money and have a higher standard of living there.

I can either apply for a visa, or sneak in and live illegally. I'm doing it for a better life brah!

Everyone wants a better life. That is no justification for sneaking in to and illegally working in countries. If you want to be in America so badly, apply for immigration status correctly. Follow the rules. Just because you sneak in to a country illegally, it doesn't mean you should be entitled to live there for the rest of your life and get all the benefits American citizens do.

I don't blame or vilify illegal immigrants. A lot of times I respect them as many are entrepreneurial and create jobs for themselves and work hard to get by. That doesn't mean I think they should be allowed and entitled to live here. They should follow the rules and not cheat the system.

The only illogical person here is you. Your argument is based entirely on emotion, and relies on logical fallacies, the opposite of logic.



http://thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/

This is exactly what I mean by being illogical, you're missing the point by comparing it to someone that lives a decent life in the US and would just prefer to upgrade to a "premium package" offered in Norway, tens of thousands of miles away... Some of these illegal aliens literally have no opportunities of income and know that it's easier to cross the border than to starve..Yea they can bitch and whine to the Mexican government like some of you highly educated gentlemen are doing right now to your American government but when has the American government listened to us? Wtf did all those occupy Wallstreet protests achieve? You think the Mexican government is gonna give a flying **** about some it's least educated citizens asking for employment opportunities?

I already admitted I'm conflicted about the situation and don't really like to discuss the topic. I just feel obligated to jump in when people start trying to simplify the situation and can't understand that these are humans we are talking about. Bottomline, they'd do the same shit if they were born in the same situation.

Also, 49er I understand that centralAmerican-Americans are usually self-hating individuals. They try their hardest to bend over and get d!cked in the ass by white America in order to gain their acceptance. But please evaluate your life and some of the dumbass statements you make because they are pure cringe. Just because you grew up going to one of those little central American Christian churches that often have Jersusalem in their names (found in the sf valley, South Central or Huntington Park, where im sure you live) doesn't make you Jewish. So all that hate you spew against Muslims doesn't make you more American it just makes you look like an idiot.

[9erempiree]

So all that hate you spew against Muslims doesn't make you more American it just makes you look like an idiot.

:facepalm

You are what is wrong with this world by grouping Muslims with ISIS.

I hate on ISIS but you conveniently throw Muslims into the equation with them.

[TheMan]

I get it. If I happened to be born in Mexico and I could just walk across the border and live in America, I'd do it. Of source. I understand that.


That's not true, depends on many factors. There are more than 120 million Mexicans and they aren't all trying to get to the US, not even close. In my case, on my dad's side, most of my family lives in the US because we've been US citizens since Texas became part of the US. On my mom's side, all of them live in Mexico because they didn't need to emigrate because they are doing pretty well. Some have even emigrated to Spain. That is the country that Mexicans who are doing well choose to go if given a choice between the US or Spain. Most of the people entering the US ilegally in recent times are rural folks with limited skills to get ahead in Mexico.

Mexicans who are doing well in Mexico aren't moving to the US.