Lebron says he's in the same class as MJ

[sportjames23]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/lebron-james-says-he%e2%80%99s-in-same-class-as-michael-jordan/ar-AAfgPah?li=AAa0dzB

The boy done bumped his head. :facepalm

[Giaodollo]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.

[GIF REACTION]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.
:applause:

[Dr Hawk]

Wow, that phrase belongs here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239468

[Gileraracer]

MJ: Goat
LBJ: Top 50


case closed.

[knicksman]

lebron who? lebron jems

[StephHamann]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/lebron-james-says-he%e2%80%99s-in-same-class-as-michael-jordan/ar-AAfgPah?li=AAa0dzB

The boy done bumped his head. :facepalm

http://i.imgur.com/WWUwEQj.png

[stalkerforlife]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.

Jazz fan.

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[nathanjizzle]

Poor Lebron, going through dementia at age 30.

[TripleA]

Same class of top 10 players?

[Bankaii]

The Jordan mythologists are out again.
"MJ is untouchable, no one is in his class".

And since no one is educated enough to read the context of the quote, in no way did he say he was equal to MJ.

[Asukal]

Big letardo fan here but I gotta say no, he isn't anywhere near as good as the GOAT. Still a big big fan of letardo. :applause:

[Jameerthefear]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.
Spot on Gio

[feyki]

2009 Lebron level same as 88-93 Jordan's . But Lebron's other years not.

[Nuff Said]

Does everything he say or post need to be reported here? Even people who claim to not be fan of his start threads about his every ****in comment. You're all obsessed.

[kamil]

2/6 is as good as 6/6?

What?

[Lebronxrings]

lebron is better than jordan in every way possible. Basically jordan modified.

[Papaya Petee]

No matter how much you hate him, he is.

[sdot_thadon]

And this is news because? Btw he is, otherwise you bums wouldn't spend so much time and attention on him.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Everyone whos been on this board for long knows there is NO STAN more loyal to King James than me, none, period

That being said, Lebron is not in the same class as Jordan. Jordan is 20 ranks higher, top 5 at least, along with Kobe.

But let me say this loud and clear: I will still root for KING james NO MATTER what (not sure I can stand another finals loss tho, shits getting pathetic)

[Dr Hawk]

Everyone whos been on this board for long knows there is NO STAN more loyal to King James than me, none, period

That being said, Lebron is not in the same class as Jordan. Jordan is 20 ranks higher, top 5 at least, along with Kobe.

But let me say this loud and clear: I will still root for KUNG james NO MATTER what (not sure I can stand another finals loss tho, shits getting pathetic)

Fixed for oyu :cheers:

[sdot_thadon]

Everyone whos been on this board for long knows there is NO STAN more loyal to King James than me, none, period

That being said, Lebron is not in the same class as Jordan. Jordan is 20 ranks higher, top 93 at least, along with Kobe.

But let me say this loud and clear: I will still root for KING james NO MATTER what (not sure I can stand another finals loss tho, shits getting pathetic)
Refixed for you El presidente.:cheers:

[VengefulAngel]

He is, only a 10-11 people can say this and Lebron is one of those individuals.

[dynasty1978]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.


:biggums:

[dubeta]

LeBron overrating MJ :facepalm

[West-Side]

He doesn't bring the proof with him.

[kennethgriffin]

Lebrons in the hakeem, oscar, moses class


A class below the shaq, bird, wilt class


Which is a step below the duncan, magic, kobe class

Which is a step below the jordan, kareem, russell class

[kennethgriffin]

lebron is better than jordan in every way possible. Basically jordan modified.


So was tmac for about a minute



Its about results



But in all seriousness. .. lebrons jumper, footwork, defense, clutch, leadership were all way below jordan

[West-Side]

Tier 1 - Jordan & Kareem
Tier 2 - Magic, Russell, Wilt
Tier 3 - Kobe, Duncan, Bird, LeBron & Shaq
Tier 4 - Mosses, Dr. J

[dubeta]

So was tmac for about a minute



Its about results



But in all seriousness. .. lebrons jumper, footwork, defense, clutch, leadership were all way below jordan



Kobe is less skilled than either of them :confusedshrug:

[StephHamann]

MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,

[dubeta]

Why is LeBron dropping himself to the level of a guy who went 1-9? :wtf:

[Nash]

taking everything into consideration, he's in the Jordan class. No other player has had the effect on people more than him and MJ.

Obviously MJ has more rings but take that, the talent, the domination, the numbers, the commercial side, how polarizing they are and the interest surrounding them they are in the same class.

[catch24]

What's the problem?

Save for team achievements, LeBron is definitely in that class. Jordan is visibly better (skilled) although it's pretty close if we're JUST breaking down impact to their respective teams.

[Dragonyeuw]

lebron is better than jordan in every way possible. Basically jordan modified.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/f6251497804088ae69f3066479a84037/tumblr_nsmxfqI3bd1qkko3bo1_400.gif

[West-Side]

MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,

:roll:

[oarabbus]

Nah, there are way too many MJ nut lickers. Lebron needs 10-20k more people slobbering on his balls, then he will be in the same class as MJ.



MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,


:oldlol: actually a solid comparison, except for Mayweather. As much as I dislike the guy and his fighting style dude was a WINNER. You cannot put an undefeated man in the LeBron and Manning class. Even if he won like a bitch.

[dubeta]

:oldlol: actually a solid comparison, except for Mayweather. As much as I dislike the guy and his fighting style dude was a WINNER. You cannot put an undefeated man in the LeBron and Manning class. Even if he won like a bitch.


Comparing W/L in an individual sport vs a team sport


kek

:yaohappy:

[lil jahlil]

He just meant that neither have fathers anymore.

[kennethgriffin]

MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,


Mayweather?

Hes an undefeated legend with dozens of championships



And he beat oscar and manny


Hes a legit top 7 boxer ever

[oarabbus]

Comparing W/L in an individual sport vs a team sport


kek

:yaohappy:

So who did Mayweather lose to btw?

[FKAri]

MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,

wtf

[outbreak]

Jordabs goat lebrons borderline top 10

[outbreak]

lebron is better than jordan in every way possible. Basically jordan modified.
https://38.media.tumblr.com/507be937bd33343f39b0f40ecb24e11d/tumblr_nvwi1rK9bR1s02vreo1_250.gif

[3ball]

:facepalm

[dubeta]

:facepalm

Quick! Copy/paste those iso midrange stats!

[SouBeachTalents]

:facepalm

Why do you do this in every single thread? Some autism related tick?

[3ball]

taking everything into consideration, he's in the Jordan class. No other player has had the effect on people more than him and MJ.

Obviously MJ has more rings but take that, the talent, the domination, the numbers, the commercial side, how polarizing they are and the interest surrounding them they are in the same class.


[INDENT][COLOR="Navy"][I]"Well, his lawyer said his starting point for an endorsement is $10 million. But even more telling is this stat: [B]Michael Jordan makes more money in endorsements in a year

[dubeta]

Why do you do this in every single thread? Some autism related tick?


It's a placeholder


Once no one responds to his post he'll delete his post, replace it with a facepalm and then repost the same post in hopes of rebumping the thread so someone will respond


Rinse/repeat

[Dr Hawk]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/507be937bd33343f39b0f40ecb24e11d/tumblr_nvwi1rK9bR1s02vreo1_250.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Dro]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.
:lol

[sportjames23]

Lebron stans heated like this nikka here:

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/4/4/4/153642444/100715_pit_rodriguez_cooler_med_8qzwmzsh.gif

[3ball]

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Lebron < MJ because he achieves stats by reducing the PPG and APG of teammates - here's APG:


Wade apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 6.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game), 34.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:advanced)
Wade apg and assist % with... Lebron (11'-14'): 4.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), 25.5% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced)


Bosh apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 2.2, 10.5%
Bosh apg and assist % with... Lebron (11'-14'): 1.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), .8.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced)


Irving apg and assist % before Lebron (12'-14'): 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game), 33.2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:advanced)
Irving apg and assist % with... Lebron (2015):... 5.2, 25.0%


Kevin Love apg and assist % in MIN: 2.5, 13.0%
Kevin Love apg and assist % in CLE:. 2.2, 10.7%


Mo Williams apg and assist % before Lebron: 6.3, 30.0%
Mo Williams apg and assist % with... Lebron: 4.1, 20.1%


Source: basketball-reference.com


There's a reason the stats show Lebron lowering the assist capacity of his team - starting fives normally have only 1 ball-dominant, low-assisted player that teammates rarely throw assists to - the point guard - but Lebron's point guard style from the forward position adds a 2nd low-assisted player that teammates can't throw assists to, which lowers the assist capacity of the team - not surprisingly, Lebron's presence didn't materially improve the assist frequency (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446) of his Heat and Cavs teams.. Otoh, players like Bird and MJ were highly-assisted, off-ball players, so their presence significantly increased the assist frequency of their teams and promoted high assist frequency, as the data linked above shows.

Not surprisingly, Lebron's presence as an extra point guard significantly reduces the APG and assist % (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841) of teammates, while their assisted rate increases - this proves Lebron's presence as an extra point guard turns teammates from playmakers into play-finishers, thus preventing the kind of equal-opportunity offenses that the Bird's Celtics, the Mavs, Spurs, Warriors, and 90's Bulls used (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=23m40s), where all 5 guys share the playmaking duties - since Lebron prevents the best brand of basketball, various equal or less-talented teams have pulled upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014)..

Summary: Ultimately, Lebron's stats lack integrity because he accumulates them at the expense of teammates.. His stat accumulation is also helped by employing a stat-friendly, easily-solvable, playground style, rather than trying to win.. His stat-friendly style is far less impressive than the superior, nuanced skill Bird and MJ needed to achieve stats within an equal-opportunity offense that can actually win.

[G0ATbe]

I kinda agree with him. They both needed some of the most stacked rosters of all time before they could accomplish anything and garnered horrible records/0 rings without them.

Same class indeed.

[sd3035]

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Lebron < MJ because he achieves stats by reducing the PPG and APG of teammates - here's APG:


Wade apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 6.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game), 34.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:advanced)
Wade apg and assist % with... Lebron (11'-14'): 4.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), 25.5% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced)


Bosh apg and assist % before Lebron (04'-10'): 2.2, 10.5%
Bosh apg and assist % with... Lebron (11'-14'): 1.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), .8.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced)


Irving apg and assist % before Lebron (12'-14'): 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game), 33.2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:advanced)
Irving apg and assist % with... Lebron (2015):... 5.2, 25.0%


Kevin Love apg and assist % in MIN: 2.5, 13.0%
Kevin Love apg and assist % in CLE:. 2.2, 10.7%


Mo Williams apg and assist % before Lebron: 6.3, 30.0%
Mo Williams apg and assist % with... Lebron: 4.1, 20.1%


Source: basketball-reference.com


There's a reason the stats show Lebron lowering the assist capacity of his team - starting fives normally have only 1 ball-dominant, low-assisted player that teammates rarely throw assists to - the point guard - but Lebron's point guard style from the forward position adds a 2nd low-assisted player that teammates can't throw assists to, which lowers the assist capacity of the team - not surprisingly, Lebron's presence didn't materially improve the assist frequency (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385446) of his Heat and Cavs teams.. Otoh, players like Bird and MJ were highly-assisted, off-ball players, so their presence significantly increased the assist frequency of their teams and promoted high assist frequency, as the data linked above shows.

Not surprisingly, Lebron's presence as an extra point guard significantly reduces the APG and assist % (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841) of teammates, while their assisted rate increases - this proves Lebron's presence as an extra point guard turns teammates from playmakers into play-finishers, thus preventing the kind of equal-opportunity offenses that the Bird's Celtics, the Mavs, Spurs, Warriors, and 90's Bulls used (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=23m40s), where all 5 guys share the playmaking duties - since Lebron prevents the best brand of basketball, various equal or less-talented teams have pulled upsets by playing a better brand of basketball (2009, 2011, 2014)..

Summary: Ultimately, Lebron's stats lack integrity because he accumulates them at the expense of teammates.. His stat accumulation is also helped by employing a stat-friendly, easily-solvable, playground style, rather than trying to win.. His stat-friendly style is far less impressive than the superior, nuanced skill Bird and MJ needed to achieve stats within an equal-opportunity offense that can actually win.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/body-bags-2.jpg

[pauk]

:confusedshrug: He is.... in terms of talent, acclaim, prominency... obviously he is not exactly on that class in terms of accolades due to team accomplishments... but yes...

[Wade's Rings]

:confusedshrug: He is.... in terms of talent, acclaim, prominency... obviously he is not exactly on that class in terms of accolades due to team accomplishments... but yes...

:kobe:

[dazzer87]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/507be937bd33343f39b0f40ecb24e11d/tumblr_nvwi1rK9bR1s02vreo1_250.gif
:roll:

[3ball]

No one copies Lebron's moves because he doesn't have any.

No one is killing each other for his shoes, because no one gives a shit enough about them.

After Lebron retires, he will be replaced by so many upcoming guys, that no one will talk about him..

The new guys aren't copying Lebron's moves.. They're still copying MJ's.. Lebron won't be relevant decades later like MJ is.. 2/7 or wherever he ends up could never garner the status of 6/6.. It's common sense.

[ShawkFactory]

Why do you do this in every single thread? Some autism related tick?
I've taken a bunch of psychology courses and 3ball is textbook Asperger's syndrome.

Repeats himself without being prompted, talks at people rather than with them, has no ability to understand what other humans are actually talking about.

He's an interesting case.

[3ball]

I've taken a bunch of psychology courses and 3ball is textbook Asperger's syndrome.

Repeats himself without being prompted, talks at people rather than with them, has no ability to understand what other humans are actually talking about.

He's an interesting case.
I've exposed all of Lebron's weaknesses in detail and why he's so much worse than MJ... You respond to my posts more than anyone

[kennethgriffin]

i'm in the same class as MJ
















see... anyone can do that

[Paul George 24]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.
MJ is much better than Leflop ever been and not to mention how the leauge get so soft with the rules change,no handcheck and defensive 3seconds limit big man play defence

[Paul George 24]

Quick! Copy/paste those iso midrange stats!
1-9 > 2-4 :rockon:

[knicksman]

in the RS yes but come playoffs time, where non skilled gets exposed-NO

[dubeta]

in the RS yes but come playoffs time, where non skilled gets exposed-NO

lol at comparing a 1-9 to lebron

MJs game was all stats, no impact, hence 1-9

[AnaheimLakers24]

Big fan but no hes not. Hes on the level of a retard woth gorilla strength.

[knicksman]

lol at comparing a 1-9 to lebron

MJs game was all stats, no impact, hence 1-9

Look!! I respect you as a poster coz you are the leader of our fam. But lets be real here, 2/6 is nowhere close to 6/6

[livinglegend]

1-9 > 2-4 :rockon:

You write like a retard and also calculate like a retard.

[knicksman]

You write like a retard and also calculate like a retard.

bran wouldnt be 2/6 if you guys are smart:oldlol:

[livinglegend]

bran wouldnt be 2/6 if you guys are smart:oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You make that other retard dude look like a genius.
Did you even read your post? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sorry, I am not talking to a low IQ poster like you after this.

[knicksman]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You make that other retard dude look like a genius.
Did you even read your post? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sorry, I am not talking to a low IQ poster like you after this.

:roll: Just as ive thought, you dont get what i mean coz youre a dumbass:roll:

[magnax1]

This thread clearly is going places.
But yeah, Jordans just way better.

[Asukal]

In the same class? Seriously? 2/6 is the greatest choker's class. I wouldn't even need to talk about their gap in skills and mental toughness. Letardo's IQ is receding as fast as his hairline. :whatever:

[R.I.P.]

Good to hear that he

[GrapeApe]

I don't really have an issue with his comment. Broadly defined, it's probably fair to say that Lebron is in the same class as MJ, as are a handful of others.

[houston]

he ain't lying he just need to win more

[dubeta]

Brons a LOT better than MJ, dont let his comments deceive you :facepalm


This is just standard 'humble' PR talk from LeBron, wanting to throw MJ a bone

[Naero]

He is better than MJ peak to peak. No doubt. But MJ benefited from playing in a weak expansion era and had a more stacked team than LeBron reletively to his era.

LeBron ain't finished though. Already been in six finals, had one of the greatest finals ever already and has two championships.

If you ask me? Easily a top 3 career already and best of all time in the modern era.

LeBron's peak has already elapsed and is bound to remain in the rear-view mirror, and I have yet to see him post as prolific of a season as what Michael Jordan did here:

Michael Jordan - 1988-89 season:

32.5 PPG; 53.8% field-goal percentage; 27.6% three-point percentage; 85% free-throw percentage; 8 RPG; 8 APG; 2.9 SPG; 0.8 BPG.

Fact: Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history to average 30+ PPG on 50%+ FG%, 7+ APG and 7+ RPG for an NBA season.

This was a season (iirc) wherein the Bulls' primary Point Guard was injured and sidelined; as such, the onus shifted to Michael Jordan for a more Point Forward-esque role wherein he had to orchestrate the majority of the playmaking on the team.

It's also worth noting that this was the final season Michael Jordan played as a Bull before Phil Jackson took the reigns; thereafter, Tex Winters' patented Triangle Offense was adopted. That offense is much less organic and superstar-centric than the more adjustable offensive schemes that most coaches tailor for their superstars, which means it puts a throttle on the usage rating of the primary ball-handler.

Michael Jordan has proven to have had a better peak than LeBron and that he's more effective when playing LeBron's ball-dominant style; it's just that for most of Michael Jordan's career, he did not need to, as he played a different but more effectual role and later on also played in a more ball-movement-oriented offensive system.

(Note: Apologies if someone already raised up this point; I was only gave a cursory recap on the thread due to momentary time constraints as we speak.)

[JerrySeinfeld]

When I was a kid and I used to see guys wear MJ’s shoes when they played against MJ I’m like, ‘Oh, MJ got a little mental edge over those guys,'” James said. “So, for me, now being in that MJ class, if he’s not a real brother of mine, if you’re just a guy that’s just like, you actually just go to Foot Locker or somewhere, you just get a pair of ‘Brons and you want to wear them on a Tuesday night vs. me? I’m gonna bust your a——. Straight up

Lol this quote, like many others shows Bron's insecure side. Funny, in the exact same quote he showed exactly why he's not in the same class as Jordan. Jordan didn't have any "brothers" around the league who played for other teams. At least no one that he ever felt like he was going to take it lightly on once the ball was thrown up. Then again, Jordan could go easy on a guy and still drop 40 on him. LeBron made scoring 35 ppg vs isolation defense in the Finals look like a huge challenge when Jordan would have straight embarrassed the Warriors if they defended him like that.

Same class my azz

[3ball]

Lol this quote, like many others shows Bron's insecure side. Funny, in the exact same quote he showed exactly why he's not in the same class as Jordan. Jordan didn't have any "brothers" around the league who played for other teams. At least no one that he ever felt like he was going to take it lightly on once the ball was thrown up. Then again, Jordan could go easy on a guy and still drop 40 on him. LeBron made scoring 35 ppg vs isolation defense in the Finals look like a huge challenge when Jordan would have straight embarrassed the Warriors if they defended him like that.

Same class my azz


Good catch..

Anytime you have to verbalize to the world that you're in the "same class"... You're not in the same class...

[Paul George 24]

You write like a retard and also calculate like a retard.

Paul just get mad coz I said the truth,Jordan never go to other team for a ring like Leflop did,he is a coward,afraid to lose,so he gone Miami,when the heat lost in 2014,he do it again and he left and join another team with Irving and love

[Paul George 24]

Brons a LOT better than MJ, dont let his comments deceive you :facepalm


This is just standard 'humble' PR talk from LeBron, wanting to throw MJ a bone
Coward lebron

[Paul George 24]

he ain't lying he just need to win more
Lost 4 already ,no chance anymore

[bobopenguin]

lebron is lucky he's playing at the era with others like wade or melo or bosh. he wont last a day in MJ's era.

[Wade's Rings]

lebron is lucky he's playing at the era with others like wade or melo or bosh. he wont last a day in MJ's era.

:coleman:

[Foster5k]

Yes, he's in the same class as Jordan. However, Jordan is getting all As while Lebron only gets one A-, one B+ and the rest Fs.

Lebron's report card... :lebroncry:

[red1]

bronbron too good at bball. he is absolutely right

[Cold soul]

MJ class = Wayne Gretzy, Joe Montana, Ali, Messi, Babe Ruth


Lebron class = Peyton Manning, Landon Donovan, Floyd Mayweather,

That's solid comparison but Mayweather is in MJ category as much as it pains me to say his record is perfect and been in game for very long time his accomplishments speaks for itself.

[bluechox2]

i didnt know bran and mj went back to school? what class are they taking?

[Paul George 24]

bronbron too good at bball. he is absolutely right
Then why he left Cavs to Miami ?

[poido123]

Similar production, different class.


Jordan elevated his game whenever the playoffs called. Lebron has holes in his career including that dreadful 2/6 record.

[aj1987]

Similar production, different class.


Jordan elevated his game whenever the playoffs called. Lebron has holes in his career including that dreadful 2/6 record.
How is that dreadful? LeBron is one of ~5 players with multiple FMVP's and MVP's. Tell that 2/6 is dreadful to players like Barkley, Malone, Stockton, etc. and they'd probably laugh at you. You wouldn't call Hakeem's career "dreadful", because he has only 2 rings or Bird's because he has only 3...

[poido123]

How is that dreadful? LeBron is one of ~5 players with multiple FMVP's and MVP's. Tell that 2/6 is dreadful to players like Barkley, Malone, Stockton, etc. and they'd probably laugh at you. You wouldn't call Hakeem's career "dreadful", because he has only 2 rings or Bird's because he has only 3...


So is Lebron in hakeem's class? There's a conversation.

I don't really think you can measure up Lebron to MJ class wise.


Measuring greatness is more than just fulfilling what you "should" based on your talent level.

[dubeta]

So is Lebron in hakeem's class? There's a conversation.

I don't really think you can measure up Lebron to MJ class wise.


Measuring greatness is more than just fulfilling what you "should" based on your talent level.

LOL you should be more respectful to the player that has destroyed your Bulls for the last half-decade

Bulls fans are the last to criticise lebron

[Paul George 24]

LOL you should be more respectful to the player that has destroyed your Bulls for the last half-decade

Bulls fans are the last to criticise lebron
Lecoward james :applause:

[plowking]

People knocking Bron's 2/6 record is downright stupid.

He was the favourite in 2 of his finals, and that is the amount of wins he came out with. Not to mention in 2 of them he was given absolutely not shot (07 and 15).

Lebron is every bit as good as Jordan on the court. These are just facts backed by statistical proof. Pretty much inarguable. Shaq and Wilt are the only others who can say that.

Look at the top 15 individual PER seasons. 4 names appear on the list with the exception of David Robinson... Shaq, Wilt, MJ and Jordan. Funnily enough all the 4 guys that get mentioned as the most dominant players in basketball, all time.
These 4 are the best players to ever play the game. You give them all an equal team, and given all things constant, they are the most likely to win you a championship.
So many things go into winning a championship, with luck being a huge factor, that people think winning championships is any sort of metric as to measuring a player?
Give Karl Malone or Barkley the teams Duncan had throughout his career and you don't think they increase their chances of winning a championship? How about Wilt getting the teams Russell did throughout his career? When he had a team the level of the 67 Sixers... look what happened.

Wilt, MJ, Bron and Shaq. In a class of their own.

[kamil]

People knocking Bron's 2/6 record is downright stupid.

He was the favourite in 2 of his finals, and that is the amount of wins he came out with. Not to mention in 2 of them he was given absolutely not shot (07 and 15).

Lebron is every bit as good as Jordan on the court. These are just facts backed by statistical proof. Pretty much inarguable. Shaq and Wilt are the only others who can say that.

Look at the top 15 individual PER seasons. 4 names appear on the list with the exception of David Robinson... Shaq, Wilt, MJ and Jordan. Funnily enough all the 4 guys that get mentioned as the most dominant players in basketball, all time.
These 4 are the best players to ever play the game. You give them all an equal team, and given all things constant, they are the most likely to win you a championship.
So many things go into winning a championship, with luck being a huge factor, that people think winning championships is any sort of metric as to measuring a player?
Give Karl Malone or Barkley the teams Duncan had throughout his career and you don't think they increase their chances of winning a championship? How about Wilt getting the teams Russell did throughout his career? When he had a team the level of the 67 Sixers... look what happened.

Wilt, MJ, Bron and Shaq. In a class of their own.

Excuses.

[plowking]

Excuses.

Don't make excuses for myself, let alone other people.

I'm just a realist who doesn't hang off the nuts of their childhood idols. Look to achieve something yourself little one than hanging on to the achievements of your hero little one. :oldlol:

[sd3035]

Jordan wasn't in Wilt and Lebald's NBA choking 206 class

[Odinn]

2 times as favourites? And what about 2011 and 2014? 2014 is arguable but 2011?.. Sad...

[sd3035]

not even Henry Heimlich could have saved Lebaldo in 2011

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png

[stalkerforlife]

not even Henry Heimlich could have saved Lebaldo in 2011

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Magic 32]

Lebron is one shot (from another player) away from being the black Jerry West.

[red1]

People knocking Bron's 2/6 record is downright stupid.

He was the favourite in 2 of his finals, and that is the amount of wins he came out with. Not to mention in 2 of them he was given absolutely not shot (07 and 15).

Lebron is every bit as good as Jordan on the court. These are just facts backed by statistical proof. Pretty much inarguable. Shaq and Wilt are the only others who can say that.

Look at the top 15 individual PER seasons. 4 names appear on the list with the exception of David Robinson... Shaq, Wilt, MJ and Jordan. Funnily enough all the 4 guys that get mentioned as the most dominant players in basketball, all time.
These 4 are the best players to ever play the game. You give them all an equal team, and given all things constant, they are the most likely to win you a championship.
So many things go into winning a championship, with luck being a huge factor, that people think winning championships is any sort of metric as to measuring a player?
Give Karl Malone or Barkley the teams Duncan had throughout his career and you don't think they increase their chances of winning a championship? How about Wilt getting the teams Russell did throughout his career? When he had a team the level of the 67 Sixers... look what happened.

Wilt, MJ, Bron and Shaq. In a class of their own.
Well said. Plowking with another phenomenal post.

[3ball]

not even Henry Heimlich could have saved Lebaldo in 2011

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png


If he did this when he got scared against Dirk, what would he have done against MJ.... Yikes

[dubeta]

If he did this when he got scared against Dirk, what would he have done against MJ.... Yikes

Well.. if he got 36/13/9 on 40% vs a much stronger and much more physical Iguodala, he would probably average the same 36/13/9 on 47-48% vs MJ


ie. He would abuse MJ, who was used to guarding the 6'2, 6'3 SGs of the 80's like Joe Dumars.


It wouldnt be close, MJ would get abused, he would check out and ask the superior defender Pippen to try and guard LeBron

[20Four]

Well.. if he got 36/13/9 on 40% vs a much stronger and much more physical Iguodala, he would probably average the same 36/13/9 on 47-48% vs MJ


ie. He would abuse MJ, who was used to guarding the 6'2, 6'3 SGs of the 80's like Joe Dumars.


It wouldnt be close, MJ would get abused, he would check out and ask the superior defender Pippen to try and guard LeBron
LeBRONZE would "Cramp" up before he got to play againts jordan, please bitch, dont make me fvkc you up so bad when I see meet that you wont be able to type anymore...

[RidonKs]

depends what you call the class i guess

if we're trying to separate out every single player who has ever played into distinguishable tiers or levels or classes...

then surely lebron, as one of the 10 most dominant skilled effective players ever, belongs on the same list as bird kareem jordan wilt etc

good for lebron finally not running from this truth

if he means to get even better over the coming seasons, this is a necessary step

but honestly based on how his body looks and how well he moves and evaluating any real progress he's made with his footwork and post play and jumpshot..... i don't see it

he may properly declare that he and mj belong to the same class of player

but bran ain't no mj

[brownmamba00]

Wilt, MJ, Bron and Shaq. In a class of their own.
get the **** outta here:oldlol:

bron shaq and wilt aren't even the best of their position gimme bird, hakeem, kareem, magic over those flip flopping beta male chokers everyday of the week.

you should take bron's lil dick out your mouth because it's impeding your thought process or maybe you were born like this who knows...

[3ball]

Well.. if he got 36/13/9 on 40% vs a much stronger and much more physical Iguodala, he would probably average the same 36/13/9 on 47-48% vs MJ


Iggy weighs 207, while MJ weighed between 215 and 220.. They're both the same height.

MJ's biceps don't need to be beefy, white-boy-style like Iggy's biceps, because MJ's body was a superior physical specimen.. His muscles were more tightly wound and explosive... More fast-twitch.

Since Lebron shot 30% against a 6'6", 207 pound, inferior specimen, he would do even worse against MJ's 6'6", 220 pound, superior specimen.

[dubeta]

Iggy weighs 207, while MJ weighed between 215 and 220.. They're both the same height.

MJ's biceps don't need to be beefy, white-boy-style like Iggy's biceps, because MJ's body was a superior physical specimen.. His muscles were more tightly wound and explosive... More fast-twitch.

Since Lebron shot 30% against a 6'6", 207 pound, inferior specimen, he would do even worse against MJ's 6'6", 220 pound, superior specimen.

So Kobe is as strong as MJ also? Vince and MJ have the same strength? they were all 6'6 220 pounds as well

MJ had higher body fat, thats why he weighs the same or more than Iggy, nothing more

[aj1987]

get the **** outta here:oldlol:

bron shaq and wilt aren't even the best of their position gimme bird, hakeem, kareem, magic over those flip flopping beta male chokers everyday of the week.

you should take bron's lil dick out your mouth because it's impeding your thought process or maybe you were born like this who knows...
Are you ****ing retarded? Bird and Hakeem over Shaq? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Stop doing meth.

[Paul George 24]

People knocking Bron's 2/6 record is downright stupid.

He was the favourite in 2 of his finals, and that is the amount of wins he came out with. Not to mention in 2 of them he was given absolutely not shot (07 and 15).

Lebron is every bit as good as Jordan on the court. These are just facts backed by statistical proof. Pretty much inarguable. Shaq and Wilt are the only others who can say that.

Look at the top 15 individual PER seasons. 4 names appear on the list with the exception of David Robinson... Shaq, Wilt, MJ and Jordan. Funnily enough all the 4 guys that get mentioned as the most dominant players in basketball, all time.
These 4 are the best players to ever play the game. You give them all an equal team, and given all things constant, they are the most likely to win you a championship.
So many things go into winning a championship, with luck being a huge factor, that people think winning championships is any sort of metric as to measuring a player?
Give Karl Malone or Barkley the teams Duncan had throughout his career and you don't think they increase their chances of winning a championship? How about Wilt getting the teams Russell did throughout his career? When he had a team the level of the 67 Sixers... look what happened.

Wilt, MJ, Bron and Shaq. In a class of their own.

Leflop stan making excuse

[Paul George 24]

Jordan would scores 60ppg against golden state's defence

[Paul George 24]

So Kobe is as strong as MJ also? Vince and MJ have the same strength? they were all 6'6 220 pounds as well

MJ had higher body fat, thats why he weighs the same or more than Iggy, nothing more
So u nes night has 2% body day ?

[smoovegittar]

LeBron too young to remember MJ - like most of you clowns in here.

Have another soda pop. :coleman:

[sdot_thadon]

I don't see how anyone who knows their head from their ass can't comprehend that Mj was Mj before he won rings. He didn't magically become a better class of player after rings or a certain winning percentage, he was special from day one. As was lebron. They are definitely in the same class.

[Koresh]

This interview was about sneakers.

He meant he is in the same class as Jordan since he's one of the few mega stars in the NBA with his own shoe line that has been around for a long time.

Of course this flies over the head of people on ISH like always. Taking everything LeBron says out of context. I bet he would even admit he's not in the same class as a player but come on, this is just cheap bait for idiots like 3ball to jack off to and say "see, I told you so! He thinks he's better than Jordan!"

TLDR; LeBron is talking about he is the same class as MJ as far as shoes are concerned. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop.

[RidonKs]

This interview was about sneakers.

He meant he is in the same class as Jordan since he's one of the few mega stars in the NBA with his own shoe line that has been around for a long time.

Of course this flies over the head of people on ISH like always. Taking everything LeBron says out of context. I bet he would even admit he's not in the same class as a player but come on, this is just cheap bait for idiots like 3ball to jack off to and say "see, I told you so! He thinks he's better than Jordan!"

TLDR; LeBron is talking about he is the same class as MJ as far as shoes are concerned. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop.
:lol

points like this are always in like the 115th post of the thread

[Asukal]

This interview was about sneakers.

He meant he is in the same class as Jordan since he's one of the few mega stars in the NBA with his own shoe line that has been around for a long time.

Of course this flies over the head of people on ISH like always. Taking everything LeBron says out of context. I bet he would even admit he's not in the same class as a player but come on, this is just cheap bait for idiots like 3ball to jack off to and say "see, I told you so! He thinks he's better than Jordan!"

TLDR; LeBron is talking about he is the same class as MJ as far as shoes are concerned. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop.

http://www.nextscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/difficult-PhD-supervisor-smartass.jpg

[GIF REACTION]

The dude has already been in 6 finals by age 30

He's definitely in the same class as MJ

As are guys like Kareem, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, Russell

[scandisk_]

snip

MJ's class: KAJ, Russell

Bran's class: Bird, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Bean, TD

fixed

[plowking]

get the **** outta here:oldlol:

bron shaq and wilt aren't even the best of their position gimme bird, hakeem, kareem, magic over those flip flopping beta male chokers everyday of the week.

you should take bron's lil dick out your mouth because it's impeding your thought process or maybe you were born like this who knows...

I love dudes on the internet talking shit who I could fold in half in real life. :oldlol:

[Odinn]

Wonder what's the fuss all about.
LeBron is possibly as big as Jordan as for marketing concerns. His explanation points out this. Not about on-court performance. If he were to suggest something like that, all other retired all-time greats would have been attacking him already, starting with Magic.

[Ray22]

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png


:lol :facepalm

[ralph_i_el]

This thread is awful. I haven't read any of the posts, and I just KNOW it's awful .

http://my10online.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4480604.jpg

I just improved this thread by 20%

[3ball]

Jordan would scores 60ppg against golden state's defence



^^^This.. Seriously, how would MJ do against this cream-puff, playground setup:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-06-2015/uAh_p8.gif



He ain't shooting 27% outside of 5 feet, especially since he never saw open space in the paint like previous gif - he saw BODIES:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/dzzsgE.gif


The paint was so crowded in MJ's day, he usually couldn't even THINK about penetrating and had to pull-up for midrange jumpers instead, as the previous gif shows.

[sportjames23]

Wonder what's the fuss all about.
LeBron is possibly as big as Jordan as for marketing concerns. His explanation points out this. Not about on-court performance. If he were to suggest something like that, all other retired all-time greats would have been attacking him already, starting with Magic.


LOL, no. Lebron is no where as big as MJ marketing-wise, unless you mean current MJ, who hasn't played in 12 years.

Hell, MJ's shoes still outsell EVERYONE else's, including Lebron.

[sdot_thadon]

LOL, no. Lebron is no where as big as MJ marketing-wise, unless you mean current MJ, who hasn't played in 12 years.

Hell, MJ's shoes still outsell EVERYONE else's, including Lebron.
Here's the part where you realize lebron has at most 3 models release per season. MJ's entire line of way over 50 sneakers are all credited to his sales. Not just his signature sneaker.

[Hey Yo]

^^^This.. Seriously, how would MJ do against this cream-puff, playground setup:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-06-2015/uAh_p8.gif



He ain't shooting 27% outside of 5 feet, especially since he never saw open space in the paint like previous gif - he saw BODIES:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/dzzsgE.gif


The paint was so crowded in MJ's day, he usually couldn't even THINK about penetrating and had to pull-up for midrange jumpers instead, as the previous gif shows.
How DID MJ do in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?? What were his numbers in that series??























all yeah that's right, he quit the league "twice" before even trying to get to his 4th.

[dubeta]

Here's the part where you realize lebron has at most 3 models release per season. MJ's entire line of way over 50 sneakers are all credited to his sales. Not just his signature sneaker.


That dudes retarted, no point explaining it to him.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

This interview was about sneakers.

He meant he is in the same class as Jordan since he's one of the few mega stars in the NBA with his own shoe line that has been around for a long time.

Of course this flies over the head of people on ISH like always. Taking everything LeBron says out of context. I bet he would even admit he's not in the same class as a player but come on, this is just cheap bait for idiots like 3ball to jack off to and say "see, I told you so! He thinks he's better than Jordan!"

TLDR; LeBron is talking about he is the same class as MJ as far as shoes are concerned. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop.

Best post in the thread. That's exactly what I got out of the interview, all that he meant was that he was a top of the league superstar like Jordan.

[brownmamba00]

I love dudes on the internet talking shit who I could fold in half in real life. :oldlol:
Go play some rugby aussieboy you ain't about that life.

[sd3035]

That dudes retarted, no point explaining it to him.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/durr.gif

[sd3035]

I love dudes on the internet talking shit who I could fold in half in real life. :oldlol:

https://i.imgur.com/HaAe7.jpg

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

:lol LeBeta has become really insecure. He has noticed that his athleticism has began to fade so he overcompensates with his mouth. "I'm the best player in the world" - loses to AMC 3 games in a row. :lol

Betas gon Beta

[-Stay Alpha]

[gilalizard]

Damn, he's so desperate to be in MJ's class (he's not, obviously) he's crowbarring in as forced a comparison as there is during a conversation about ****ing sneakers.

lol Baldo.... just.... :facepalm