When taking into account salary cap hit, is Kobe Bryant the worst player in the NBA?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

A net negative player making 25 mil? I say yes.

[DaOldLion]

you can call him whatever you want but nobody will ever call him worse than Barkley

[RoundMoundOfReb]

you can call him whatever you want but nobody will ever call him worse than Barkley

He's worse than Barkley.

[dubeta]

Might be the worst in NBA history if you think about it




Jordan played for $5M a year so it wasnt bad


Shaq played for 20M a year in Cleveland in 2010, but he wasnt that bad


Garnett, Pierce, Allen all played for cheap in their final years


Ummm. honestly cant think of one



Maybe the seasons Jermaine O' Neal was earning 20M in like 2009, or Stephan Marbury earning 20M in 2006, or maybe a broken down Arenas earning 20M in 2010 playing garbage?


But again, neither of them were as bad as Kobe, so cant really make an argument for Kobe there.





So yes, OP you're right.

[ISHGoat]

you can call him whatever you want but nobody will ever call him worse than Barkley

As a player, Barkley has far more positive impact on his team.

[DaOldLion]

He's worse than Barkley.

round mound of no rings

[Vaniiiia]

Maybe even NBA history.

Factoring in the contract, his WOAT impact, or the fact that he drove every single big-name free agent away. I say current Kobe is the biggest negative in sports, forget basketball, but sports. I don't care if he sells tickets or jerseys. In terms of short term success, AND long-term success, he's the absolute worst player in the league. It's inarguable.

[Human Error]

Yes, by far.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

If Barkley played with prime Shaq for 8 years he'd have 5-8 rings

[lakerspng]

If Barkley played with prime Shaq for 8 years he'd have 5-8 rings

no chance. those two together would have binge eaten to over 1000 lbs combined.

[dubeta]

Maybe even NBA history.

Factoring in the contract, his WOAT impact, or the fact that he drove every single big-name free agent away. I say current Kobe is the biggest negative in sports, forget basketball, but sports. I don't care if he sells tickets or jerseys. In terms of short term success, AND long-term success, he's the absolute worst player in the league. It's inarguable.


Damn, I said the exact same thing! solid points


You're right, WOAT impact in sports history, im sorry, i shouldnt have limited it to just the NBA

[lakerspng]

threads like this need to just be deleted. seriously just shut up and let the season play out. it's aggravating reading this trash over and over.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Maybe even NBA history.

Factoring in the contract, his WOAT impact, or the fact that he drove every single big-name free agent away. I say current Kobe is the biggest negative in sports, forget basketball, but sports. I don't care if he sells tickets or jerseys. In terms of short term success, AND long-term success, he's the absolute worst player in the league. It's inarguable.

Didn't even factor in his destructive impact to the Lakers FA hopes. Also the fact that even though Kobe sucks so badly, his coach still has to play him 30+ mins or face the wrath of the media/retarded Kobe fans.

It's official:

Current Kobe Bryant is the worst player in NBA history.

Great work guys.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

threads like this need to just be deleted. seriously just shut up and let the season play out. it's aggravating reading this trash over and over.
This is a NBA discussion forum, if you don't want to discuss the NBA go somewhere else.

[DaOldLion]

If Barkley played with prime Shaq for 8 years he'd have 5-8 rings

because Moses Malone, Dr. J, multiple time all star/ all defensive teamer Dan Majerle, all nba guard Kevin Johnson, Scottie Pippen and Hakeem Olajuwon wasn't enough..

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Duffy Pratt]

In 07-08 Portland paid Steve Francis 30 million to go away, and the Rockets signed him to a 6 million dollar two year deal. In the 10 games he played for the Rockets, he scored less than 5 points per game So he got paid 33 million that year, or 3.3 million per game, or about 750k per point. Nice work with if you can get it.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

because Moses Malone, Dr. J, multiple time all star/ all defensive teamer Dan Majerle, all nba guard Kevin Johnson, Scottie Pippen and Hakeem Olajuwon wasn't enough..

:oldlol: :oldlol:


Almost all those players were past prime. Shaq >> then all anyways. Other than LeBron and maybe MJ, there's no one better than prime Shaq

[RoundMoundOfReb]

In 07-08 Portland paid Steve Francis 30 million to go away, and the Rockets signed him to a 6 million dollar two year deal. In the 10 games he played for the Rockets, he scored less than 5 points per game So he got paid 33 million that year, or 3.3 million per game, or about 750k per point. Nice work with if you can get it.
Yeah but his coach wasnt forced to play him 30+ mins and he didn't scare off free agents. Also I said cap hit, not salary.

[dubeta]

Barkley > Kobe


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[DaOldLion]

Almost all those players were past prime. Shaq >> then all anyways. Other than LeBron and maybe MJ, there's no one better than prime Shaq

:oldlol:

Barkley was 21 and playing with Moses who was 29 and putting up 24/14 and on that same team they had Dr J dropping 20ppg, all star Andrew Toney, all star and all nba first team defender Mo Cheeks..

Played with Kevin Johnson when KJ was an all star & all nba guard and on that same team he had all star guard & all nba defender Dan Majerle..

Played with Scottie Pippen years before Pippen was the first or second best player on a team that made the WCF

played with Hakeem who was putting up 23/9 and was first team all nba center and all nba defender and on that same team Clyde Drexler was still putting up 18ppg

Barkley played with all of that and still never won shit

:roll:

[kennethgriffin]

players arent paid for the future. theyre paid for the past and what revenue they bring to the team


kobe made only 10 million in 2001 when he averaged 29/7/6 in the playoffs


that production was probably worth 35 million

[JT123]

yes, yes he is

[knicksman]

4 months already and 2/6 stans are still on a meltdown:oldlol:

[AnaheimLakers24]

I would go with my favorite player lebron. All that money and can make it to the finals just to lose. Might as well not even make the finals :(
hard being a bron fan

[HOoopCityJones]

As a player, Barkley has far more positive impact on his team.

Like Zero rings and one Finals appearance?

[Duffy Pratt]

Yeah but his coach wasnt forced to play him 30+ mins and he didn't scare off free agents. Also I said cap hit, not salary.

Fair enough, but Portland took two years of approximately $17 million dollars/per year for a player they paid to leave. And the Rockets had a more modest $3 million / year cap hit for nothing. That's an aggregate $20 million/year for two years.

Allan Houston's last two years for the Knicks also comes to mind.

[oh the horror]

I see the clown brigade is up to their usual bullshit ramping up and dusting off their nonsense as the season begins to open up soon.