Durant-Ball held back James Harden

[warriorfan]

James Harden with Kevin Durant

2009-10 20 OKC NBA SG 76 0 22.9 3.1 7.6 .403 1.2 3.3 .375 1.8 4.3 .424 .484 2.6 3.2 .808 0.6 2.6 3.2 1.8 1.1 0.3 1.4 2.6 9.9
2010-11 21 OKC NBA SG 82 5 26.7 3.6 8.3 .436 1.4 4.0 .349 2.3 4.4 .514 .518 3.5 4.2 .843 0.5 2.6 3.1 2.1 1.1 0.3 1.3 2.5 12.2
2011-12 22 OKC NBA SG 62 2 31.4 5.0 10.1 .491 1.8 4.7 .390 3.1 5.4 .579 .582 5.0 6.0 .846 0.5 3.6 4.1 3.7 1.0 0.2 2.2 2.4 16.8

James Harden without Kevin Durant

2012-13 ★ 23 HOU NBA SG 78 78 38.3 7.5 17.1 .438 2.3 6.2 .368 5.2 10.9 .477 .504 8.6 10.2 .851 0.8 4.1 4.9 5.8 1.8 0.5 3.8 2.3 25.9
2013-14 ★ 24 HOU NBA SG 73 73 38.0 7.5 16.5 .456 2.4 6.6 .366 5.1 9.9 .515 .529 7.9 9.1 .866 0.8 3.9 4.7 6.1 1.6 0.4 3.6 2.4 25.4
2014-15 ★ 25 HOU NBA SG 81 81 36.8 8.0 18.1 .440 2.6 6.9 .375 5.4 11.3 .480 .511 8.8 10.2 .868 0.9 4.7 5.7 7.0 1.9 0.7 4.0 2.6 27.4

Kevin Durant makes his team mates worse while Steph Curry makes his team mates better. Steph Curry won with his second best player being Klay Thompson. Kevin Durant couldn't win with Russell Westbrook and James Harden.

[Uncle Drew]

BREAKING NEWS: player has higher usage rate and therefore better stats as first option than third option.

[dubeta]

Iggy-ball held back Curry in the playoffs





Regular season

Curry 100/130 MVP votes


Finals

Curry 0/11 MVP votes

[Dr Hawk]

BREAKING NEWS: player has higher usage rate and therefore better stats as first option than third option.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

OP's IQ is the same as the amount of FMVP votes Curry has.

[warriorfan]

Durant-Ball has too much isolation instead of creating for teammates. THere are no excuses for an MVP candidate to be wasted like that because of Durant-Ball. You should be able to win the championship with a trio of Harden, Westbrook, and Durant.

[3ball]

Iggy-ball held back Curry in the playoffs


Regular season

Curry 100/130 MVP votes


Finals

Curry 0/11 MVP votes


:kobe: .. Everyone knows Lebron shot poorly against everyone, so Iggy's D was overrated.

Also, Lebron shot 30% against a 207 pound, 6'6" role player, so now we know for sure that MJ, the goat 6'6" defender would've locked up Lebron pretty easily.

We can now easily say that MJ would massacre Lebron in 1-on-1, since a homeless man's MJ made Lebron shoot 30%.
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[dubeta]

:kobe: .. Everyone knows Lebron shot poorly against everyone, so Iggy's D was overrated.

Also, Lebron shot 30% against a 207 pound, 6'6" role player, so now we know MJ, the goat 6'6" defender would've locked up Lebron pretty easily.

We can now easily say that MJ would massacre Lebron in 1-on-1, since a homeless man's MJ made Lebron shoot 30%.

Iggy is twice the defender MJ ever was


and Lebrons 36 points on 40% >>> Mjs 27 points on 40% vs. 6'3 Gary Payton


Mj would probably shoot 25% vs LeBron if Gary Payton makes him so bad



Mj has 0 chance vs LeBron

:yaohappy:

[SouBeachTalents]

:kobe: .. Everyone knows Lebron shot poorly against everyone, so Iggy's D was overrated.

Also, Lebron shot 30% against a 207 pound, 6'6" role player, so now we know for sure that MJ, the goat 6'6" defender would've locked up Lebron pretty easily.

We can now easily say that MJ would massacre Lebron in 1-on-1, since a homeless man's MJ made Lebron shoot 30%.
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Manages to turn a thread about Durant and Harden into yet another LeBron/Jordan discussion. Frighteningly obsessed and delusional

[warriorfan]

Jordan and Curry won with Scottie Pippen and Klay Thompson.

LeBron and Durant lost with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden.

Jordan and Curry are real superstars while LeBron and Durant are pseudo-stars that fail in the Finals... even with multiple Hall of Fame teammates.

[JT123]

Iggy is twice the defender MJ ever was


and Lebrons 36 points on 40% >>> Mjs 27 points on 40% vs. 6'3 Gary Payton


Mj would probably shoot 25% vs LeBron if Gary Payton makes him so bad



Mj has 0 chance vs LeBron

:yaohappy:
:bowdown:

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan and Curry won with Scottie Pippen and Klay Thompson.

LeBron and Durant lost with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden.

Jordan and Curry are real superstars while LeBron and Durant are pseudo-stars that fail in the Finals... even with multiple Hall of Fame teammates.

Let me know when LeBron, Durant, or any other player in history loses Finals MVP to a teammate coming off the bench. That's historic levels of stackedness

[warriorfan]

Let me know when LeBron, Durant, or any other player in history loses Finals MVP to a player coming off the bench. That's historic levels of stackedness

Let me know when Curry or Jordan lose the Finals while having multiple hall of fame teammates.


:eek:

[Fudge]

Let me know when LeBron, Durant, or any other player in history loses Finals MVP to a teammate coming off the bench. That's historic levels of stackedness
:yaohappy:

[warriorfan]

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stephen-Curry-Riley-Curry-trophy.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vPIgTuQM2gk/0.jpg

[dubeta]

FMVP votes > sidekick championships


you lose, little boy

[warriorfan]

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stephen-Curry-Riley-Curry-trophy.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vPIgTuQM2gk/0.jpg

:lebronamazed:

[dubeta]

:lebronamazed:

problem changing accounts?

:lebronamazed:

[Cocaine80s]

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Stephen-Curry-Riley-Curry-trophy.jpg


I wonder which one has more FMVP votes?

[sportjames23]

Iggy-ball held back Curry in the playoffs





Regular season

Curry 100/130 MVP votes


Finals

Curry 0/11 MVP votes


Iggy-ball dropped Lebron to 2/6.

[warriorfan]

I wonder which one has more FMVP votes?

I wonder which one of them still shits themselves like LeBron did in 2011.

[Cocaine80s]

I wonder which one of them still shits themselves like LeBron did in 2011.
Lebron 2011 Finals>Curry 2015 final

[warriorfan]

Lebron 2011 Finals>Curry 2015 final

:roll:

You're done. You can stop posting now.

[Cocaine80s]

:roll:

You're done. You can stop posting now.
Curry is lucky he had Thompson, Iggy, & green


Lebron only had Wade and Bosh who sabotaged him

[bluechox2]

Curry is lucky he had Thompson, Iggy, & green


Lebron only had Wade and Bosh who sabotaged him

and ray allan who gifted that 2nd ring after bran gave up in game 6

[sportjames23]

Curry is lucky he had Thompson, Iggy, & green


Lebron only had Wade and Bosh who sabotaged him


:biggums:

In 2011?

[Spurs m8]

Warrior fan is the biggest bandwagon bitch on this forum tbh

[warriorfan]

Warrior fan is the biggest bandwagon bitch on this forum tbh

warriorfan, join date 2010

Kawhi m8, join date 2014

Kawhi Leonard drafted by San Antonio Spurs in the 2011 NBA Draft.




Who's the bandwagon bitch again?

[Dr Hawk]

warriorfan, join date 2010

Kawhi m8, join date 2014

Kawhi Leonard drafted by San Antonio Spurs in the 2011 NBA Draft.




Who's the bandwagon bitch again?

Damn

[Cocaine80s]

warriorfan, join date 2010

Kawhi m8, join date 2014

Kawhi Leonard drafted by San Antonio Spurs in the 2011 NBA Draft.




Who's the bandwagon bitch again?
You had like 5 posts until early this year

[ralph_i_el]

Wow OP is retarded. Entering your prime and being the first option makes your stats go up. No ****ing duh.

This dude needs a ban, pronto. It's one thing to be stupid, it's another thing to be aggressively stupid with an agenda.

Are warriorfan and 3ball the same person?

[Spurs m8]

You had like 5 posts until early this year

This.

I just hadn't been introduced to ISH yet.

You did...but only started posting at an appropriate time

[warriorfan]

This.

I just hadn't been introduced to ISH yet.

You did...but only started posting at an appropriate time

The season before I made my ISH account, the Warriors went 29-53.

The season before you made your ISH account, the Spurs went 62-20 and won the NBA championship.

Who is the bandwagon bitch again? :confusedshrug:

[Fudge]

OP getting slaaaayed mate.

[catch24]

Aren't you the same guy who asked what the benefit of space exploration was....?

This is one of the WORST serious threads I've seen. Logic is completely thrown out the window here. :oldlol:

[Beastmode88]

Curry is lucky he had Thompson, Iggy, & green


Lebron only had Wade and Bosh who sabotaged him

Yeah u should blame curry cause he cost u 1000 dollars. :lol :lol

[Vaniiiia]

OP getting slaaaayed mate.
Again though? :roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaK_cDj6SnE

[warriorfan]

insecure

[Cocaine80s]

Yeah u should blame curry cause he cost u 1000 dollars. :lol :lol
I already re comped that through trapping you weak azz *****

[dreamwarrior]

Read Harden's SI interview. The guy was afraid of being the man while he was in OK. He seriously wanted to stay and be comfortable being the 3rd option, but decided to go for more money instead.

[Cocaine80s]

Read Harden's SI interview. The guy was afraid of being the man while he was in OK. He seriously wanted to stay and be comfortable being the 3rd option, but decided to go for more money instead.
You do know he was traded right? He didnt leave

[Fudge]

Again though? :roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaK_cDj6SnE
:yaohappy:

[iTare]

2012 heat would have beaten the warriors too

[ralph_i_el]

You do know he was traded right? He didnt leave
He was traded because he was going to leave for more money in free agency

[ShawkFactory]

The fvck is Durant-ball?

[Rocketswin2013]

The fvck is Durant-ball?
High volume isolation scoring I guess. :oldlol:

[Terahite]

interesting theory

[Hey Yo]

Let me know when Curry or Jordan lose the Finals while having multiple hall of fame teammates.


:eek:
:roll: :roll:

[Terahite]

Let me know when Curry or Jordan lose the Finals while having multiple hall of fame teammates.


:eek:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/KF3r4Q6YCtfOM/200.gif

[JT123]

Let me know when Curry or Jordan lose the Finals while having multiple hall of fame teammates.


:eek:
Welp...:lol

[warriorfan]

Curry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's production

[inclinerator]

Curry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's productionCurry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's production

[WADE MONEY]

Iggy-ball held back Curry in the playoffs





Regular season

Curry 100/130 MVP votes


Finals

Curry 0/11 MVP votes


OHHHHHHH so THAAAATS what all these "curry 0/22" and "curry 0/33" posts mean!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Springsteen]

This dude doesn't think Klay and Draymond won't make the hall of fame eventually :roll:

[Sarcastic]

This dude doesn't think Klay and Draymond won't make the hall of fame eventually :roll:

There's a decent chance Iggy makes it too.

[Terahite]

Curry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's productionCurry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's production

Curry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's productionCurry still hasn't lost with multiple HoF teammates

Klay Thompson HoF - no

Draymond Green HoF - he has an outside shot at making it

At the very most Curry lost with 1 Hall of Fame teammate, not two[/b], like LeBron James and Kevin Durant did with D.Wade, Chris Bosh, and Russell Westbrook and James Harden

Let it be known that Curry was also suffering from a a major MCL injury which drastically effected his performance in comparison from 2015

Most 4th Quarter Points during the Finals

1995 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5
2000 Shaquille O'Neal 11.5 (61.1% TS)
2015 Stephen Curry 10.8 (75.1% TS)
1997 Michael Jordan 10.7 (55.1% TS)
1998 Michael Jordan 10.6 (50.6% TS)
2011 Dirk Nowitzki 10.3 (68.0% TS)
1993 Michael Jordan 10.3


In the 2016 Finals he was not able to play as well as he did in 2015

What happened in 2016 that didn't happen in 2015? [i]The major MCL injury


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m_8DziMFB8s/0.jpg


Therefore we can conclude that Curry's MCL injury was the differentiating factor which lowered Curry's production

[dannywpt]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Curry actively recruit Durant because he needs a first option who actually shows up in the finals?

The Warriors is Durant's team now.

[warriorfan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Curry actively recruit Durant because he needs a first option who actually shows up in the finals?

The Warriors is Durant's team now.

Curry is the most efficient scorer, best ball handler, and distributor on Golden State, he is the first option.

It will be a mistake for Durant, who is the less efficient player, to be taking a higher volume of shots.

Sources:

Curry 2016

https://s31.postimg.org/ogkbld9t7/Curry2016.jpg



Durant 2016

https://s32.postimg.org/cpkcad3t1/Durant2016.jpg


Steph Curry not only scored more, but did it more efficiently as well

Steph Curry 2016 TS%:67%
Kevin Durant 2016 TS%: 63%

[CuterThanRubio]

You got Westbrook and Durant mixed up, simple mistake!