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GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 05:37 AM
Who's going to be higher on the all time list when Carmelo retires?

Lebron23
10-13-2015, 05:39 AM
Chewing

Monta Ellis MVP
10-13-2015, 05:41 AM
Patrick Ewing. He gets underrated from playing in an era that was full of talented Centers.

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 05:44 AM
Patrick Ewing. He gets underrated from playing in an era that was full of talented Centers.
I agree, but let's not act like Carmelo is a scrub either. He's played through the most stacked era of guards/wings

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 05:46 AM
I do think Melo would need to have a couple more elite top 5 mvp voting seasons to beat Ewing

BasedTom
10-13-2015, 05:48 AM
What is the closest Karlmelone has been to leading a team to a finals?

Have you ever felt like one of his teams could go all the way?

Has it even been close?

warriorfan
10-13-2015, 05:54 AM
What is the closest Karlmelone has been to leading a team to a finals?

Have you ever felt like one of his teams could go all the way?

Has it even been close?

2009...

feyki
10-13-2015, 08:11 AM
Patrick Ewing .

JohnnySic
10-13-2015, 08:44 AM
Ewing does get underrated. He is a top-50 player. Carmelo shouldn't be far behind though.

Patrick Chewing
10-13-2015, 10:24 AM
Chewing


:applause:

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 10:33 AM
It's an insult have Melo in the same sentence as Ewing. Ewing was a much more impactful player. Melo is a black hole who killed offensive flow. You could NEVER win with a guy like him as the best player on your team.

Gileraracer
10-13-2015, 10:34 AM
Unless Melo wins a ring (which is highly doubtable) Patrick will stay in front

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 10:38 AM
It's an insult have Melo in the same sentence as Ewing. Ewing was a much more impactful player. Melo is a black hole who killed offensive flow. You could NEVER win with a guy like him as the best player on your team.
Conversely, don't act like Ewing was some all time great

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 10:42 AM
Conversely, don't act like Ewing was some all time great

He's a borderline top 10 C all time so yeah he was.

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 10:44 AM
He's a borderline top 10 C all time so yeah he was.
And Melo is a top 10 SF all time

Stupid point

j3lademaster
10-13-2015, 10:47 AM
He's a borderline top 10 C all time so yeah he was.Melo might be higher all time in terms of SF's though. But even so, Center position is just so historically stacked. I mean there are 5-7 centers in the top 10 depending on who you ask.

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 10:53 AM
Lebron
Bird
Dr J
Durant
Baylor
Pippen
Rick Barry
Dominique Wilkins
John Havlicek
Adrian Dantley
James Worthy
Carmelo

Stacked

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 10:55 AM
Melo might be higher all time in terms of SF's though. But even so, Center position is just so historically stacked. I mean there are 5-7 centers in the top 10 depending on who you ask.

Yup, being ranked around 10 for a C is saying a lot given how deep this position is historically.

GIF REACTION
10-13-2015, 10:58 AM
Thread cliffs;

General consensus is that it is close but Ewing is probably going to finish above Carmelo

j3lademaster
10-13-2015, 11:06 AM
Melo isn't even as good as Dwight. No matter how you look at it: career vs career, peak vs peak... and Dwight is not a top 10 center, he's in that Alonzo Mourning/ Artis Gilmore tier.

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 11:09 AM
Thread cliffs;

General consensus is that it is close but Ewing is probably going to finish above Carmelo

It's not close. Ewing was a much more impactful player when you consider his position, his defense and his offensive capabilities. Melo was a black hole scorer.

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 11:10 AM
Melo isn't even as good as Dwight. No matter how you look at it: career vs career, peak vs peak... and Dwight is not a top 10 center, he's in that Alonzo Mourning/ Artis Gilmore tier.

Agreed. I would take Dwight over Melo in a nanosecond when you consider position and defense.

Spaulding
10-13-2015, 11:20 AM
Ewing easily.

ClipperRevival
10-13-2015, 11:22 AM
Lebron
Bird
Dr J
Durant
Baylor
Pippen
Rick Barry
Dominique Wilkins
John Havlicek
Adrian Dantley
James Worthy
Carmelo

Stacked

Melo gets knocked out of the top 10 when you add in King, English, Gervin and Pierce.

HoopologyPhD
10-13-2015, 12:02 PM
Ewing>> Melo

Ewing scored as many points as Melo ever did in his best season on much better FG% along with 11 boards and 4 blocks. Melo plays no defense.

jstern
10-13-2015, 12:33 PM
I love Carmelo, but lets face it, he's not going to impact the game as much as Ewing. A Ewing led team is always going to make the playoff, always give you a chance of making the Finals. Carmelo, he's, I don't know. I don't want to say anything bad about him. But Ewing 100 out of 100 times.

MellowYellow
10-13-2015, 01:16 PM
Right now I have Ewing in the 30-40 range and Melo in the 50-60 range. But Melo's game ages well, and he has at least 3 more elite years left. Melo will more than likely compete for the mvp this year which should help his case.

Fudge
10-13-2015, 01:18 PM
Right now I have Ewing in the 30-40 range and Melo in the 50-60 range. But Melo's game ages well, and he has at least 3 more elite years left. Melo will more than likely compete for the mvp this year which should help his case.
:yaohappy:

MellowYellow
10-13-2015, 01:22 PM
Ewing>> Melo

Ewing scored as many points as Melo ever did in his best season on much better FG% along with 11 boards and 4 blocks. Melo plays no defense.
Melo's defense is underrated, and we aren't comparing peaks.

MellowYellow
10-13-2015, 01:23 PM
:yaohappy:
you mad:confusedshrug:

Sarcastic
10-13-2015, 01:24 PM
Lebron
Bird
Dr J
Durant
Baylor
Pippen
Rick Barry
Dominique Wilkins
John Havlicek
Adrian Dantley
James Worthy
Carmelo

Stacked

Wilt
Russell
Kareem
Shaq
Hakeem
Moses
Robinson
Mikan
Ewing
Walton

:kobe:

imdaman99
10-13-2015, 01:29 PM
This is disrespectful to Ewing. I am not his biggest fan, but he is quite easily above Melo. Melo has a lot left to prove. I am all for him doing it though, so we will see how it goes.

ZMonkey11
10-13-2015, 01:30 PM
Conversely, don't act like Ewing was some all time great

I'm going to take this as troll bait.

Fudge
10-13-2015, 01:34 PM
you mad:confusedshrug:
Meltdown.

smoovegittar
10-13-2015, 05:27 PM
C'mon man... The only way Melo tops Patrick is if he gets them to the Finals.
Pat was an undisputed BEAST in his prime.

I'm really liking Melo's attitude and game so far this pre-season.

Smoke117
10-13-2015, 06:35 PM
Ewing is actually one of the most underrated players ever because he played during the golden era of Centers. There is little question as to who is better, greater, who has a bigger impact on the game, and who you would take between Ewing and Carmelo.

Round Mound
10-13-2015, 07:03 PM
:rolleyes: Ewing and its not close

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
10-13-2015, 09:57 PM
Melo isnt a top 10 SF and wont be in 5 years:oldlol: :oldlol:

Ewing is EASILY top 10 and the top 10 alltime at C>>>>>>>>>>>>top 10 at SF. WAY more talent at C

Bird
DrJ
KD
Bran
Baylor
Pippen
Barry
Worthy
Dantley
Pierce
Nique
Hondo

all better

Peak for peak Ewing is even better than peak Melo on offense. 1990 Ewing was an animal..............Let alone his alltime great D

MellowYellow
10-13-2015, 10:02 PM
Melo isnt a top 10 SF and wont be in 5 years:oldlol: :oldlol:

Ewing is EASILY top 10 and the top 10 alltime at C>>>>>>>>>>>>top 10 at SF. WAY more talent at C

Bird
DrJ
KD
Bran
Baylor
Pippen
Barry
Worthy
Dantley
Pierce
Nique
Hondo

all better

Peak for peak Ewing is even better than peak Melo on offense. 1990 Ewing was an animal..............Let alone his alltime great D

How is nique better? Their stats are identical and so is their success

Legends66NBA7
10-13-2015, 10:06 PM
Knick fans alone wouldn't entertain this.


Ewing is the better player. The end.

Goro
10-13-2015, 10:11 PM
Ewing, no question.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
10-14-2015, 12:55 AM
How is nique better? Their stats are identical and so is their success
Actually wasnt too sure with Nique. Prime and peak is close but he has longevity for now. Still theres 12 other players there clearly better

For peak Melo isnt even on the level of Knicks like Frazier or King

GIF REACTION
10-14-2015, 01:37 AM
It's 90's nostalgia

Suddenly every player who played in the 80's and 90's get a buff and anyone who plays today is put down

3ball
10-14-2015, 03:51 AM
nothing wrong with a little 90's nostalgia.

3ball
10-14-2015, 03:56 AM
For peak Melo isnt even on the level of Knicks like Frazier or King


agreed

3ball
10-14-2015, 03:59 AM
Melo played through the toughest era of wings



.Small Forwards with 15.0 or Greater PER


..2014.....................................1990

Lebron James...................... Larry Bird
Kevin Durant....................... Dominique Wilkins
Carmelo Anthony................. James Worthy
Kawhi Leonard...................... Scottie Pippen
Gordon Hayward................... Chris Mullin
Paul Pierce......................... Bernard King
Trevor Ariza......................... Alex English
Andre Iguodala..................... Dennis Rodman
Nicholas Batum..................... Derrick McKey
Luol Deng............................ Reggie Lewis
Josh Smith......................... Jerome Kersey
Chandler Parsons.................. Mark Aguirre
Rudy Gay............................ Adrian Dantley



.Shooting Guards with 15.0 or Greater PER


....2006...............................1990

Kobe Bryant..................... Michael Jordan
Dwayne Wade................ Clyde Drexler
Manu Ginobili................... Joe Dumars
Ray Allen........................ Reggie Miller
Vince Carter...................Mitch Richmond
Michael Redd................... Ronaldo Blackmon
Richard Hamilton.............. Alvin Robertson
Joe Johnson................... Dale Ellis
Jason Richardson.............. Ron Harper
Jamal Crawford................ Jeff Hornacek
Bonzi Wells..................... Fat Lever
Mike Miller...................... Hersey Hawkins
Morris Peterson.................Ricky Pierce
Leandro Barbosa...............Jeff Malone


The bolded above indicates who is better... Looks like 1990 has it pretty easily.. I would've done 1990 vs. 2014 for SG's, but it's no contest.. 2006 was the current era's best crop of SG's.
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GIF REACTION
10-14-2015, 04:12 AM
Why use PER?

4 Inches
10-14-2015, 04:16 AM
Give me long dick Patrick

bigkingsfan
10-14-2015, 04:31 AM
Gimme the guy with the Snickers commercials over the guy that eats too many Snickers.

scandisk_
10-14-2015, 05:13 AM
It's 90's nostalgia

Suddenly every player who played in the 80's and 90's get a buff and anyone who plays today is put down

Put down? Lol if it's Mourning vs Carmelo then you'll have the answer that you wanna hear.

Ewing is comfortably better.

redhonda76
10-14-2015, 11:43 AM
Ewing easily. This is not even a fair debate.