Which era would win...

[r15mohd]

This was posted by NBA on TNT, and certainly a good read and comment for here...id say be unbiased but we all know how that goes lol

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My pick is the 2000 era:
-MDE with Shaq at Center
-best PF ever in TimmyD
-arguably the best SF ever (but Bird!!! We know, we know-toss up)
-Kobe, 2/3rd greatest SG
-AI is pound for pound, one of the greatest players given his size and skill combo

really liked the 90s era, but I don't see Hakeem out dueling the 2000s Shaq, or the mailman over TD. Stockton fit this team a lot better than someone like AI in the 2000s squad, and CB4/LBJ is a wash on what they can provide. The gleaming advantage is MJ...GOAT will GOAT.
-they should have put Pippen at SF, then the matchup would have been a lot closer, personally.

[ShawkFactory]

Really tough between the 60s and 2000s.

Replace AI with Kidd or Nash and I'd take them.

[aj1987]

This was posted by NBA on TNT, and certainly a good read and comment for here...id say be unbiased but we all know how that goes lol

http://i60.tinypic.com/4haw48.jpg

My pick is the 2000 era:
-MDE with Shaw at Center
-best PF ever in TimmyD
-arguably the best SF ever (but Bird!!! We know, we know-toss up)
-Kobe, 2/3rd greatest SG
-AI is pound for pound, one of the greatest players given his size and skill combo

really liked the 90s era, but I don't see Hakeem out dueling the 2000s Shaq, or the mailman over TD. Stockton fit this team a lot better than someone like AI in the 2000s squad, and CB4/LBJ is a wash on what they can provide. The gleaming advantage is MJ...GOAT will GOAT.
-they should have put Pippen at SF, then the matchup would have been a lot closer, personally.
:biggums:

Replace AI with Nash/CP3/Kidd. Peak for peak, the '00's would destroy ANY era. GOAT level defenders in Timmy and Kidd, great defenders in Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, and CP3.

[r15mohd]

Really tough between the 60s and 2000s.

Replace AI with Kidd or Nash and I'd take them.



true...Nash, most definitely. uncertain about Kidd, though.

also should be noted that I think LBJ belongs more in the 10's than he does in the 2000's...seeing that he began to peak later in the 2000s and by 2011-12 season, he was pretty much unstoppable.

but then who gets the SF role in 2000s if Lebron is dumped :confusedshrug:

[Mr. Jabbar]

2000. And it ain't even fair either.

[ShawkFactory]

true...Nash, most definitely. uncertain about Kidd, though.

also should be noted that I think LBJ belongs more in the 10's than he does in the 2000's...seeing that he began to peak later in the 2000s and by 2011-12 season, he was pretty much unstoppable.

but then who gets the SF role in 2000s if Lebron is dumped :confusedshrug:
Honestly I think there's just as good of a chance with Kidd. The team wouldn't need Nash's scoring and Kidd would be able to check Oscar, Frazier, Isiah, etc. Nash would have no shot against those guys.

Plus Kidd is as good in transition.

Just think his toughness would be more valuable than Nash's shooting.

[WillC]

1960s. That team works so perfectly together.

[aj1987]

true...Nash, most definitely. uncertain about Kidd, though.

also should be noted that I think LBJ belongs more in the 10's than he does in the 2000's...seeing that he began to peak later in the 2000s and by 2011-12 season, he was pretty much unstoppable.

but then who gets the SF role in 2000s if Lebron is dumped :confusedshrug:
T-Mac? Or play Wade at SG and move Kobe to SF. Else, Artest, Marion, Prince, Bowen, and AK-47.

[r15mohd]

Honestly I think there's just as good of a chance with Kidd. The team wouldn't need Nash's scoring and Kidd would be able to check Oscar, Frazier, Isiah, etc. Nash would have no shot against those guys.

Plus Kidd is as good in transition.

Just think his toughness would be more valuable than Nash's shooting.


good points...but for me, Nash was the better assist guy over Kidd and exceptional in the transition game where Kobe Lebron, and even Shaq were almost unstoppable in the open court. Nash does lack in the defensive game...either/or like you said, cant really go wrong with either.

AI should be the SG off the bench behind Kobe more than starting PG

[r15mohd]

T-Mac? Or play Wade at SG and move Kobe to SF. Else, Artest, Marion, Prince, Bowen, and AK-47.


moving Kobe is an option, he's a true SG tho...but that's the thing with the 2000s SF's, not much high caliber. most were good, or went down due to injury..TMac was the perfect replacement or maybe even VC

[aj1987]

moving Kobe is an option, he's a true SG tho...but that's the thing with the 2000s SF's, not much high caliber. most were good, or went down due to injury..TMac was the perfect replacement or maybe even VC
Peaks? Artist, Prine and Marion are ELITE defenders and they could play on the other side as well. Look at the matchups. All 3 can defend the SF's from any decade.

[ArbitraryWater]

If you put Nash for the 2000's and Wade (more reliable to not kill chemistry in a team like this imo) I think they'd be the best.

90's, but even more so the 60's are in the discussion.

[r15mohd]

Peaks? Artist, Prine and Marion are ELITE defenders and they could play on the other side as well. Look at the matchups. All 3 can defend the SF's from any decade.


all of these guys would not stop DrJ, CB4 or Bird. that would be the weakness is Lebron is replaced with anyone of these guys, and gives the 90s squad a good chance as far as matchup goes to me.

[aj1987]

all of these guys would not stop DrJ, CB4 or Bird. that would be the weakness is Lebron is replaced with anyone of these guys, and gives the 90s squad a good chance as far as matchup goes to me.
You think LeBron would stop them? :oldlol:

[r15mohd]

You think LeBron would stop them? :oldlol:


he'd have a better chance as they'd have to work on both ends of the floor against Lebron and expend their energy in doing so...same can't be said for Prince, Metta, or Marion. these guys would be playing hot potato with the ball on offense, that would be their duty and any oppising SF would be relieved and could double down without much worry.

[aj1987]

he'd have a better chance as they'd have to work on both ends of the floor against Lebron and expend their energy in doing so...same can't be said for Prince, Metta, or Marion. these guys would be playing hot potato with the ball on offense, that would be their duty and any oppising SF would be relieved and could double down without much worry.
Did you ever watch prime Artest?

[jlip]

This was posted by NBA on TNT, and certainly a good read and comment for here...id say be unbiased but we all know how that goes lol

http://i60.tinypic.com/4haw48.jpg




The best defensive lineup is the 60's with Wilt, Russell, and West.

The 70's has the most prototypical positional lineup.

The best offensive lineup in terms of synergy is the 80's. Magic, Bird, and Isiah don't mind passing and scoring >20ppg, but are yet capable of putting up big numbers if asked. That would be important with two black holes such as Malone and McHale on the squad.

There is no spacing and too much redundancy on the 00's squad.

I may have to go with the 90's as the best overall team. It's basically the Dream Team with Hakeem replacing Robinson/ Ewing. Hakeem and MJ are a perfect inside/ outside defensive duo. Stockton's unselfishness and outside shooting add balance to a team with dominant scorers.

[jstern]

Shouldn't Lebron be part of the 2010s. I mean, if Shaq is part of the 2000s just because he won his championships then, then shouldn't Lebron be part of the 2010s? Shaq played more years in the 90s than Lebron did in the 2000s.

[3ball]

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the '00's would destroy ANY era. GOAT level defenders in Timmy and Kidd, great defenders in Kobe, LeBron, and CP3.



ANY era huh??.... How about just Puerto Rico?

C'mon dude - all those players you just listed from the 2000's couldn't even beat Euroleague - this is a fact.. They failed to win the championship during international play in 2002, 2004 and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - this is despite having Duncan, Lebron, CP3, Wade, Kidd, Carmelo, Dwight and every other great player from that era.

And some of those were blowouts, including to Puerto Rico... You think Carlos is pumping his jersey like that to the real Dream Team, or Wilt Chamberlain, Russell and Oscar??... gtfo... He can only do that to today's league, where the consensus is that the league is soft as ****.
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[aj1987]

ANY era huh??.... How about just Puerto Rico?

C'mon dude - all those players you just listed from the 2000's couldn't even beat Euroleague - this is a fact.. They failed to win the championship during international play in 2002, 2004 and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - this is despite having Duncan, Lebron, CP3, Wade, Kidd, Carmelo, Dwight and every other great player from that era.

And some of those were blowouts, including to Puerto Rico... You think Carlos is pumping his jersey like that to the real Dream Team, or Wilt Chamberlain, Russell and Oscar??... gtfo... He can only do that to today's league, where the consensus is that the league is soft as ****.
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Peak for peak, the '00's would destroy ANY era. GOAT level defenders in Timmy and Kidd, great defenders in Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, and CP3.

You still are a cherrypicking chipmunk brained retard.

Just so your tiny little brain won't get confused, I'll make it even more simple.

'01 Shaq
'03 Duncan
'01 Kobe
'09 LeBron
'02 Kidd/'08 CP3

[3ball]

Peak for peak



Bullshit... If they get BLOWN AWAY by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico and other shitty teams, they aren't doing shit to Wilt, Russell and Oscar, or the Dream Team.. That's obvious..

Also, Duncan, Kidd, Wade, Melo and many others WERE in their prime, so the premise of your argument is false anyway.

You're just wrong here and should accept it - re-adjust your perception of the game young man.. Because it's currently way off.

[aj1987]

Bullshit... If they get BLOWN AWAY by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico and other shitty teams, they aren't doing shit to Wilt, Russell and Oscar, or the Dream Team.. That's obvious..

Also, Duncan, Kidd, Wade, Melo and many others WERE in their prime, so the premise of your argument is false anyway.

You're just wrong here and should accept it - re-adjust your perception of the game young man.. Because it's currently way off.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You literally are the dumbest and most delusional poster on this board. Bar none. You're also an http://i.imgur.com/F93STGE.gif

Please go play in traffic.

[3ball]

You literally are the dumbest and most delusional poster on this board. Bar none. You're also an

http://i.imgur.com/F93STGE.gif

Please go play in traffic.




Translation: No Mas... Victory for 3ball itt

:hammertime: :djparty :yaohappy: :basketball


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[aj1987]

Translation: No Mas... Victory for 3ball itt

:applause: :banana: :pimp: :hammertime: :djparty :yaohappy: :basketball


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No, you ****ing moron. It just means you're retarded as shit and don't even know the meaning of the word peak.

BTW, '00's >>>>>> '90's. Deal with it, kid.

[ShawkFactory]

Translation: No Mas... Victory for 3ball itt

:hammertime: :djparty :yaohappy: :basketball


https://i.imgflip.com/rudtg.gif
No, the translation is you aren't worth arguing with. Because you're a biased fvcktard with no interest in actual conversation.

[Kobe_6/8]

really liked the 90s era, but I don't see Hakeem out dueling the 2000s Shaq, or the mailman over TD. Stockton fit this team a lot better than someone like AI in the 2000s squad, and CB4/LBJ is a wash on what they can provide. The gleaming advantage is MJ...GOAT will GOAT.
-they should have put Pippen at SF, then the matchup would have been a lot closer, personally.

Why did you mention Chris Bosh?

[3ball]

No, the translation is you aren't worth arguing with. Because you're a biased fvcktard with no interest in actual conversation.



You said a team full of All-NBA players were blown away by Carlos Arroyo because they hadn't reached their "peak" yet.


:yaohappy: :lebronamazed: :kobe:


Which is ridiculous... 3ball wins
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[aj1987]

You said a team full of All-NBA players were blown away by Carlos Arroyo because they hadn't reached their "peak" yet.


:yaohappy: :lebronamazed: :kobe:


Which is ridiculous... 3ball wins
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Peak for peak, the '00's would destroy ANY era. GOAT level defenders in Timmy and Kidd, great defenders in Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, and CP3.

You still are a cherrypicking chipmunk brained retard.

Just so your tiny little brain won't get confused, I'll make it even more simple.

'01 Shaq
'03 Duncan
'01 Kobe
'09 LeBron
'02 Kidd/'08 CP3

Also, you do know that Shaq, Kidd, and Nash didn't play, right? Also, Wade and LeBron were rookies. Even someone who's as dumb and delusional as you must know this.

[ShawkFactory]

You said a team full of All-NBA players were blown away by Carlos Arroyo because they hadn't reached their "peak" yet.


:yaohappy: :lebronamazed: :kobe:


Which is ridiculous... 3ball wins
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All-NBA team?? My ass

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread weren't on that team. And one of the two was 19 and played 5 minutes a game.

So yea...you lose.

[aj1987]

All-NBA team?? My ass

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread weren't on that team. And one of the two was 19 and played 5 minutes a game.

So yea...you lose.
Meh. Let him be. He probably needed to claim a "W" after holding constant L's IRL.

[3ball]

All-NBA team?? My ass

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread weren't on that team. And one of the two was 19 and played 5 minutes a game.


Thee 2002, 2004, and 2006 Men's teams were full of NBA all-stars and All-NBA players, including most of the very best players of the era, such as Duncan, Lebron, Wade, CP3, Melo, Dwight, and more - this is a fact - do you want me to post photos of the teams??

These teams lost 7 times to every team imagineable including blowouts to Puerto Rico and others.. But these guys are going to challenge Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, when they can't beat Carlos Arroyo?... gtfo... That's obviously ridiculous and you know it.
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[ShawkFactory]

Thee 2002, 2004, and 2006 Men's teams were full of NBA all-stars and All-NBA players, including most of the very best players of the era, such as Duncan, Lebron, Wade, CP3, Melo, Dwight, and more - this is a fact - do you want me to post photos of the teams??

These teams lost 7 times to every team imagineable including blowouts to Puerto Rico and others.. But these guys are going to challenge Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, when they can't beat Carlos Arroyo?... gtfo... That's obviously ridiculous and you know it.
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All-NBA team?? My ass.

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread were not on the team that lost to Carlos arroyo. 1 of the 2 that was (Lebron) was 19 and played 5 minutes a game.

[90sgoat]

Lol Kobe, AI AND Lebron on one team, all want to dominate the ball, all massive egos and then you add Shaq who also wants to eat first, that team is going to self destruct.

You nerds don't know anything but to look at box score stats, the 00 team would never work.

The 90s team we know would work. Barkley already showed with Rockets he can be 3rd scorer, while pulling down 14 rebounds a game. You have Stockton and Malone, add Hakeem, that team is dominating the 00s team.

Lest we forget that Stockton and Malone SWEPT Shaq in the 90s. Lest we forget Stockton still dominated as a 40 year old, while Iverson did his first NBA carry.

Laughably weak and add to that small dick Lebron, lol.

[ShawkFactory]

Lol Kobe, AI AND Lebron on one team, all want to dominate the ball, all massive egos and then you add Shaq who also wants to eat first, that team is going to self destruct.

You nerds don't know anything but to look at box score stats, the 00 team would never work.

The 90s team we know would work. Barkley already showed with Rockets he can be 3rd scorer, while pulling down 14 rebounds a game. You have Stockton and Malone, add Hakeem, that team is dominating the 00s team.

Lest we forget that Stockton and Malone SWEPT Shaq in the 90s. Lest we forget Stockton still dominated as a 40 year old, while Iverson did his first NBA carry.

Laughably weak and add to that small dick Lebron, lol.
What? Have you ever seen Lebron play in this type of setting? He's incredibly unselfish. Re watch the 2008 and 2012 Olympics.

Revisionist history and hatred at its finest.

[3ball]

All-NBA team?? My ass.

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread were not on the team that lost to Carlos arroyo. 1 of the 2 that was (Lebron) was 19 and played 5 minutes a game.


Here's the roster that was blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico:


Tim Duncan
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Shawn Marion
Amar'e Stoudemire
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Lamar Odom
Emeka Okafor
Carlos Boozer
Richard Jefferson


So let's see - Duncan, Lebron, Wade and company get destroyed by Puerto Rico, but you think they can beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar?... gtfo... you couldn't be more wrong...... about anything
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[aj1987]

Here's the roster was blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico:


Carmelo Anthony - Rookie
Tim Duncan
LeBron James - Rookie
Dwayne Wade - Rookie
Allen Iverson - Cancer and shouldn't even be on the original team

So let's see - Duncan gets destroyed by Puerto Rico, but you think they can beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar?... gtfo... you couldn't be more wrong about...... anything

FTFY. Yeah, Duncan won't beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar by himself, buy add peak Shaq, Wade, LeBron, and Kobe, they rape them so bad they're gonna wish that they never picked up a basketball.

Shaq >>>>> Wilt
Timmy >>> Russell
LeBron >>>>> Baylor
Kobe >>> West
Kidd/CP3/Nash << Oscar

Oh, LeBron, Wade, and Melo played a combined time of ~15 minutes.

[ShawkFactory]

Here's the roster that was blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico:


Tim Duncan
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Shawn Marion
Amar'e Stoudemire
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Lamar Odom
Emeka Okafor
Carlos Boozer
Richard Jefferson


So let's see - Duncan, Lebron, Wade and company get destroyed by Puerto Rico, but you think they can beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar?... gtfo... you couldn't be more wrong...... about anything
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Lebron and Wade were not legal to drink. Every single player on the dream team was still in college at the age those guys were at for that tournament.

[3ball]

FTFY. Yeah, Duncan won't beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar by himself,


If Duncan gets blown away by 20 to Carlos Arroyo, while having prime Amare, Marion and others as supporting help, along with young Wade, Lebron, and Melo, then he isn't beating Wilt/Russel/Oscar with the prime version of these guys either.

The gap between Carlos Arroyo and Wilt/Russell/Oscar is utterly massive, while the gap between young Wade/Lebron/Melo and prime versions is tiny by comparison - this stuff is obvious, but I have to explain to you guys because you're so ridiculously biased and blind to facts.

I know - let's compare Arroyo's supporting cast to Duncan's?... Let's see how that works out.. :rolleyes:

[Cocaine80s]

2000s and it isnt even close

Also it proves the competition in the 2000s was much more tougher than other eras as well

[3ball]

2000s and it isnt even close


What a joke - in 2008 and 2012, all the players you think are so great only beat Spain by like 2 points or something.. But they're somehow going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??

GTFO

Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.

[ShawkFactory]

If Duncan gets blown away by 20 to Carlos Arroyo, while having prime Amare, Marion and others as supporting help, along with young Wade, Lebron, and Melo, then he isn't beating Wilt/Russel/Oscar with the prime version of these guys either.

The gap between Carlos Arroyo and Wilt/Russell/Oscar is utterly massive, while the gap between young Wade/Lebron/Melo and prime versions is tiny by comparison - this stuff is obvious, but I have to explain to you guys because you're so ridiculously biased and blind to facts.

I know - let's compare Arroyo's supporting cast to Duncan's?... Let's see how that works out.. :rolleyes:
oh my god your arguments are so terrible :roll:

[Cocaine80s]

What a joke - in 2008 and 2012, all the players you think are so great only beat Spain by like 2 points or something.. But they're somehow going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??

GTFO

Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.
2000s and it isnt even close.

[3ball]

oh my god your arguments are so terrible


In 2008 and 2012, all the players you think are so great only beat Spain by like 2 points or something and there were many other close games.. But they're somehow going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??

GTFO

Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.

[aj1987]

If Duncan gets blown away by 20 to Carlos Arroyo, while having prime Amare, Marion and others as supporting help, along with young Wade, Lebron, and Melo, then he isn't beating Wilt/Russel/Oscar with the prime version of these guys either.

The gap between Carlos Arroyo and Wilt/Russell/Oscar is utterly massive, while the gap between young Wade/Lebron/Melo and prime versions is tiny by comparison - this stuff is obvious, but I have to explain to you guys because you're so ridiculously biased and blind to facts.

I know - let's compare Arroyo's supporting cast to Duncan's?... Let's see how that works out.. :rolleyes:
For sure. Duncan is not beating Wilt/Russell/Oscar with Marion, Amar'e, and The Cancer, but he'd rape them with prime/peak Shaq, Kobe, LeBron, CP3/Kidd/Nash. They'd rape the '90's team as well.

[ShawkFactory]

In 2008 and 2012, all the players you think are so great only beat Spain by like 2 points or something and there were many other close games.. But they're somehow going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??

GTFO

Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.
WE'RE insane with OUR fandom???

:lebronamazed:

[Cocaine80s]

3ball really underestimates the new era

Prime AI is the best pg in that pic
Peak Kobe is the 2nd best SG of all time( right behind wade)
Lebron is the greatest SF of all time and arguably the best player on the picture
Duncan doesnt even need an explanation, best PF ever
Shaq is the most dominant player ever

[kennethgriffin]

This was posted by NBA on TNT, and certainly a good read and comment for here...id say be unbiased but we all know how that goes lol

http://i60.tinypic.com/4haw48.jpg

My pick is the 2000 era:
-MDE with Shaq at Center
-best PF ever in TimmyD
-arguably the best SF ever (but Bird!!! We know, we know-toss up)
-Kobe, 2/3rd greatest SG
-AI is pound for pound, one of the greatest players given his size and skill combo

really liked the 90s era, but I don't see Hakeem out dueling the 2000s Shaq, or the mailman over TD. Stockton fit this team a lot better than someone like AI in the 2000s squad, and CB4/LBJ is a wash on what they can provide. The gleaming advantage is MJ...GOAT will GOAT.
-they should have put Pippen at SF, then the matchup would have been a lot closer, personally.



replace iverson with garnett and run lebron at PG



but either way the 2000's would win


60s = 2 top 10 players all time ( wilt/russell )
70s = 1 top 10 player all time ( kareem )
80s = 2 top 10 players all time ( magic/bird )
90s = 2 top 10 players all time ( jordan/hakeem )
00s = 3 top 10 players all time ( kobe, shaq, Duncan )


and by the time lebrons done he'l pass hakeem to make it 4 top 10 players from the 00's

[SHAQisGOAT]

I believe that that pic had been posted here before... Anyways, forming "better" squads and even adding a bench...

60's

Oscar / Cousy(more for the 50's though)
West / Sam Jones
Baylor / Gus Johnson
Russell / Pettit
Wilt / Reed, Bellamy, Unseld or Thurmond

70's

Frazier / Pistol Pete
Hondo / Gervin
Dr J / Barry
Hayes / McAdoo
Kareem / Walton

80's

Magic / Zeke
Moncrief / DJ(Suns)
Nique / King(peak)
Bird / McHale
Moses / Parish

90's

Stockton / Payton
Jordan / Drexler
Pippen / Hill or Mullin
Barkley / Malone
Hakeem / D-Rob or Ewing

00's

Nash / Kidd, even CP3
Kobe / AI or Wade, even T-Mac
LeBron / KG (gotta have Dirk at PF)
Duncan / Nowitzki
Shaq / Ming, Wallace or Dwight

...

It's hard to say who wins... They're all ****ing STACKED, obviously.

If you could "repeat" players, the 80's would beat anybody though...

'87 Magic / '85 Isiah
'88 Jordan / '83 Moncrief
'81 Dr J / '86 Wilkins
'86 Bird / '87 McHale or '88 Barkley
'83 Moses / '80 Kareem

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whew.png

Hakeem, Malone, Gervin, Worthy or Stockton can lend in a hand... Put in Ellis, Price, Cooper or Mullin if you want more spacing.

[kennethgriffin]

I believe that that pic had been posted here before... Anyways, forming "better" squads and even adding a bench...

60's

Oscar / Cousy(more for the 50's though)
West / Sam Jones
Baylor / Gus Johnson
Russell / Pettit
Wilt / Reed, Bellamy, Unseld or Thurmond

70's

Frazier / Pistol Pete
Hondo / Gervin
Dr J / Barry
Hayes / McAdoo
Kareem / Walton

80's

Magic / Zeke
Moncrief / DJ(Suns)
Nique / King(peak)
Bird / McHale
Moses / Parish

90's

Stockton / Payton
Jordan / Drexler
Pippen / Hill or Mullin
Barkley / Malone
Hakeem / D-Rob or Ewing

00's

Nash / Kidd, even CP3
Kobe / AI or Wade, even T-Mac
LeBron / KG (gotta have Dirk at PF)
Duncan / Nowitzki
Shaq / Ming, Wallace or Dwight

...

It's hard to say who wins... They're all ****ing STACKED, obviously.

If you could "repeat" players, the 80's would beat anybody though...

'87 Magic / '85 Isiah
'88 Jordan / '83 Moncrief
'81 Dr J / '86 Wilkins
'86 Bird / '87 McHale or '88 Barkley
'83 Moses / '80 Kareem

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whew.png

Hakeem, Malone, Gervin, Worthy or Stockton can lend in a hand... Put in Ellis, Price, Cooper or Mullin if you want more spacing.





PG Prime Lebron = Prime Magic
SG Prime Kobe > 80s Jordan
SF Prime Garnett > 80s Erving
PF Prime Duncan = Prime Bird
C Prime Shaq > 80s Kareem



sorry but the 00's would win

[SHAQisGOAT]

PG Prime Lebron = Prime Magic
SG Prime Kobe > 80s Jordan
SF Prime Garnett > 80s Erving
PF Prime Duncan = Prime Bird
C Prime Shaq > 80s Kareem



sorry but the 00's would win

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

'87 Magic > any "version" of LeBron in the 00's (I believe '12 LeBron has the edge over peak Magic though)

I don't really know about peak Kobe vs 80's Jordan... MJ was MVP and DPOY in 1988, already a BEAST at that time... If anything, that's a wash at most.

'86 Bird slight edge over '03 Duncan.

Peak KG is above 80's Doc, yea.

Shaq had the GOAT peak but '83 Moses + '80 Kareem beat any combination of 00's centers you can come up with...

And that 80's team has higher intangibles and would easily work better out on the court (with better team play and such), even more chemistry out of it...

Peak Bird and peak Magic on the same team is hella scary, then you have '88 Jordan :eek: Unreal... Adding in peak Moses, still prime Kareem, MVP Doc, prime Zeke and peak Wilkins, with Moncrief doing it all...

[3ball]

WE'RE insane with OUR fandom???

:lebronamazed:

If you're not insane with your fandom, how could the 2000's beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, when the 2008 and 2012 squads could only beat Spain and other teams by like, 2 and 5 points?


http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/6gh.gif


Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.

[ShawkFactory]

If you're not insane with your fandom, how could the 2000's beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, when the 2008 and 2012 squads could only beat Spain and other teams by like, 2 and 5 points?


http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/6gh.gif


Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.
Because we're not talking about the 04, 08, 12, or any international squads? We're discussing the players in the OP.

I'm confused as to how you turned it into the dream team vs Duncan and a bunch of 19-21 year olds.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png

'87 Magic > any "version" of LeBron in the 00's (I believe '12 LeBron has the edge over peak Magic though)

I don't really know about peak Kobe vs 80's Jordan... MJ was MVP and DPOY in 1988, already a BEAST at that time... If anything, that's a wash at most.

'86 Bird slight edge over '03 Duncan.

Peak KG is above 80's Doc, yea.

Shaq had the GOAT peak but '83 Moses + '80 Kareem beat any combination of 00's centers you can come up with...

And that 80's team has higher intangibles and would easily work better out on the court (with better team play and such), even more chemistry out of it...

Peak Bird and peak Magic on the same team is hella scary, then you have '88 Jordan :eek: Unreal... Adding in peak Moses, still prime Kareem, MVP Doc, prime Zeke and peak Wilkins, with Moncrief doing it all...



the overrating of jordan must stop

kobe would make 80s jordan foul out in under 2 quarters


his advantage in that era was mainly due to his competition at shooting guard.

it was like wilts advantage over his opposing centers...



is it any wonder jordans best numbers came well before his prime?

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

1960s. That team works so perfectly together.

:lol Wilt would go 5 v1 right?

[3ball]

Because we're not talking about the 04, 08, 12, or any international squads? We're discussing the players in the OP.

I'm confused as to how you turned it into the dream team vs Duncan and a bunch of 19-21 year olds.
The reality is that the early-mid 2000's style of play (iso-ball) and today's style of play (3-and-D) wastes much of the talent and ability of the on-court players (i.e. guys like Bosh being turned into spot-up 3-point shooter... a 6'10" athletic Steve Kerr - what a way to maximize talent)..

That's why even though today's teams have an utterly massive talent advantage, their suboptimal style of play wastes much of the talent, so they only beat international teams by 2 and 5 points, instead of a million like the real Dream Team.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Lol Kobe, AI AND Lebron on one team, all want to dominate the ball, all massive egos and then you add Shaq who also wants to eat first, that team is going to self destruct.

You nerds don't know anything but to look at box score stats, the 00 team would never work.

The 90s team we know would work. Barkley already showed with Rockets he can be 3rd scorer, while pulling down 14 rebounds a game. You have Stockton and Malone, add Hakeem, that team is dominating the 00s team.

Lest we forget that Stockton and Malone SWEPT Shaq in the 90s. Lest we forget Stockton still dominated as a 40 year old, while Iverson did his first NBA carry.

Laughably weak and add to that small dick Lebron, lol.

Lemme get you your cane old mister. :lol :lol

[jstern]

That 2000s team is really not that great as a team. I think the 80s and 90s team jell much better. They would murder them. Lebron who in the future is going to be looked at as a 2010's player is too ball dominant. He's one of the GOAT at making lesser talent shine, but he's too ball dominant which can take away from other superstars. And we're talking about pre 2010 Lebron, who still hadn't won a thing. Then you have Kobe and Iverson, two high volume scorers who are not all that efficient.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

The reality is that the early-mid 2000's style of play (iso-ball) and today's style of play (3-and-D) wastes much of the talent and ability of the on-court players (i.e. guys like Bosh being turned into spot-up 3-point shooter... a 6'10" athletic Steve Kerr - what a way to maximize talent)..

That's why even though today's teams have an utterly massive talent advantage, their suboptimal style of play wastes much of the talent, so they only beat international teams by 2 and 5 points, instead of a million like the real Dream Team.

:biggums: :biggums:

Take a rest 3Ball you're getting savaged left and right.
Also anyone who doesn't think 2000's win is :biggums:

[3ball]

anyone who doesn't think 2000's win is :biggums:


Anyone who thinks a team that wins by 5 points to Pau Gasol's Spain, or loses by 20 points to Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico, wouldn't lose by 60 to Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team is :biggums:

[aj1987]

Anyone who thinks a team that wins by 5 points to Pau Gasol's Spain, or loses by 20 points to Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico, wouldn't lose by 60 to Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team is :biggums:
NOT. THE. SAME. TEAM. RETARD.

[ShawkFactory]

Anyone who thinks a team that wins by 5 points to Pau Gasol's Spain, or loses by 20 points to Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico, wouldn't lose by 60 to Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team is :biggums:
The gif with the jaguar fan was invented for you.

[catch24]

NOT. THE. SAME. TEAM. RETARD.

This.

It's like saying Jordan never won without Scottie Pippen.

While true at face value, with context, anybody that knows a thing about Jordan's career understands he worked with shit in the 80s.

2006 (not the 2004 team filled with rookies) is the ONLY legit year you could clown Team USA. Losing in the finals with LeBron, Melo and Wade all coming off their 2006 seasons...was pretty embarrassing.

[G0ATbe]

I want to say 00s but with LeBald there you never know. We've seen what kind of choking shenanigans he's capable of no matter how stacked the team he's on is. Switch him with prime Tmac whom was the better player anyway and 00s demolish everything in sight. Melo, young Durant would be solid replacements as well.

[poido123]

I want to say 00s but with LeBald there you never know. We've seen what kind of choking shenanigans he's capable of no matter how stacked the team he's on is. Switch him with prime Tmac whom was the better player anyway and 00s demolish everything in sight. Melo would be a good replacement as well.



:roll:


Hell naw

[3ball]

This.

2006 (not the 2004 team filled with rookies) is the ONLY legit year you could clown Team USA. Losing in the finals with LeBron, Melo and Wade all coming off their 2006 seasons...was pretty embarrassing.


Can't you see how ridiculously biased you are???... Do we really need compare the supporting cast of Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico team to Tim Duncan's 2004 cast when they were blown away by 20?

ANY time the USA struggles or loses with a team full of NBA-all stars to an international team, it shows the era sucks... The international game is a perfect, unbiased test - if NBA all-stars are barely beating international teams or losing to them by 20, there's no way they could beat NBA players from prior eras..

It's pretty intuitive, rock-solid logic.. If they're barely beating Juan Carlos Navarro or can't beat Carlos Arroyo, then obviously, they ain't beating Wilt or Russell... Does that make sense?

[catch24]

Duncan and a bunch of rookies losing in the Olympics pissed me off, but I got over it. Why? Because I understood we were missing our BEST players in the league at the time.

And why would I be biased?

I literally just said Team USA's 2006 campaign was embarrassing. Not denying it.

[90sgoat]

If you're not insane with your fandom, how could the 2000's beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, when the 2008 and 2012 squads could only beat Spain and other teams by like, 2 and 5 points?


http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/6gh.gif


Also, the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat euroleague - they failed to win the championship in 2002, 2004, and 2006, while losing 7 times to every team imagineable - they were blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But again, these guys are going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team??... You guys are insane with your fandom.

Is that gif Mr. Cooper?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/hanginwithmrcooperseason2cast.jpg

[3ball]

Duncan and a bunch of rookies losing in the Olympics pissed me off, but I got over it because I understood we were missing the ACTUAL best players in the league at the time.


So Tim Duncan's cast was equal to Carlos Arroyo's???... how dumb are you?

You think it's okay for a team with prime Tim Duncan, Shawn Marion, Marbury and Allen Iverson, with a supporting cast of young Wade, Lebron, Melo, Amare, Okafor, Jefferson, Boozer, Odom - you think it's okay for these guys to lose to lose to teams that have zero or maybe a couple fringe NBA players???.. Y'all dumb as hell.
.

[Smoke117]

Iverson over Kidd? How disrespectful.

[catch24]

They could've done better, of course, but their core with Duncan were either young or rookies (they got international starter minutes).

No Shaq, KG, Kobe, Kidd, Tmac, Artest who made up the All-NBA teams.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004.html

Again... I was pissed... Livid as hell tbh... but then realized we were playing with a bunch of youngsters.

[3ball]

They could have done better, of course, but their core along with Duncan were rookies (they got starter international starter minutes).

No Shaq, KG, Kobe, Kidd, Tmac, Artest who made up the All-NBA teams.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004.html

I was pissed, but realized we we're playing with a bunch of youngsters.
Duncan, Iverson and Marbury were in their primes and they're FAR better than any of their opponent's best players.. Carlos Arroyo, the best player on PR, doesn't make the 2004 team - do you understand that?

There's no excuse - look, the 2006 loss merely VALIDATED the losses in 2002 and 2004... Yet somehow 2004 is excusable???.... Wake up and get your head out of your ass - it was a weak era..

How do you feel about today's stars barely beating teams in 2008 and 2012 - they won some games by 2 and 5 points... How are they going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team?... It's ridiculous

[catch24]

Marbury and Iverson (who didn't make an ALL NBA TEAM in 2004) are both overrated shot-jackers.

I've never been too high on them tbh

We've been undefeated since that loss in 2006, so I'm feeling pretty good :confusedshrug:

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Marbury and Iverson (who didn't make an ALL NBA TEAM in 2004) are both overrated shot-jackers.

I've never been too high on them tbh

:rockon: I agree with you.

[ShawkFactory]

Duncan, Iverson and Marbury were in their primes and they're FAR better than any of their opponent's best players.. Carlos Arroyo, the best player on PR, doesn't make the 2004 team - do you understand that?

There's no excuse - look, the 2006 loss merely VALIDATED the losses in 2002 and 2004... Yet somehow 2004 is excusable???.... Wake up and get your head out of your ass - it was a weak era..

How do you feel about today's stars barely beating teams in 2008 and 2012 - they won some games by 2 and 5 points... How are they going to beat Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team?... It's ridiculous
Because we aren't discussing the horribly constructed Olympic teams you f@g

[Foster5k]

Is that gif Mr. Cooper?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/hanginwithmrcooperseason2cast.jpg
:oldlol:

Damn. I forgot about this show. Wow, brings back memories.

[raprap]

MDE shaq so 2000's

[jayfan]

I'm an 80's guy, but no one's beating that 90's team.




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[warriorfan]

Big 2000's fan here, I have to say the 90's would win easily. 2000's lost to a bunch of Euroleague hispanic dudes. Kobe might put them over the top but as a big LeBron fan I have to say the keeng can be underwhelming in clutch situations.

[ShawkFactory]

Big 2000's fan here, I have to say the 90's would win easily. 2000's lost to a bunch of Euroleague hispanic dudes. Kobe might put them over the top but as a big LeBron fan I have to say the keeng can be underwhelming in clutch situations.
You make this thread about ISH Lebron trolling. You sir, are giving out free rent.

[3ball]

Marbury and Iverson (who didn't make an ALL NBA TEAM in 2004) are both overrated shot-jackers.

I've never been too high on them tbh

We've been undefeated since that loss in 2006, so I'm feeling pretty good :confusedshrug:


Doesn't really matter - ever since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely won in international play - this means they would get crushed by Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team..

It's pretty simple, obvious, and intuitive logic, so I'm feeling pretty good.. :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Doesn't really matter - ever since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely won in international play - this means they would get crushed by Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team..

It's pretty simple, obvious, and intuitive logic, so I'm feeling pretty good.. :confusedshrug:
Nah, since it's actually pretty OBVIOUS that the '00's team would decimate the '60's and '90's teams, according to your "logic" (or lack of it), those two teams would get ravaged by the Eurotrash teams.

[3ball]

Nah, since it's actually pretty OBVIOUS that the '00's team would decimate the '60's and '90's teams, according to your "logic" (or lack of it), those two teams would get ravaged by the Eurotrash teams.
Keep dreaming bud:


"I think we showed everybody that maybe we're not very good athletes like them, but we know how to play the game," said Greek guard Theodoros Papaloukas, who carved up the U.S. defense with 12 assists. "We are clever."

The Greeks don't have an NBA player on their roster, although guard Vassilis Spanoulis is headed for the Houston Rockets. Spanoulis led Greece with 22 points, Mihalis Kakiouzis added 15 and 6-foot-10 Sofoklis Schortsianitis -- nicknamed "Baby Shaq" - bulled his way to 14 on 6-of-7 shooting.

The U.S. was led by its three captains -- Carmelo Anthony with 27 points, Dwyane Wade with 19 and LeBron James with 17.

:roll:


http://www.nba.com/media/cel_365_060901.jpg

[aj1987]

Keep dreaming bud:


"I think we showed everybody that maybe we're not very good athletes like them, but we know how to play the game," said Greek guard Theodoros Papaloukas, who carved up the U.S. defense with 12 assists. "We are clever."

The Greeks don't have an NBA player on their roster, although guard Vassilis Spanoulis is headed for the Houston Rockets. Spanoulis led Greece with 22 points, Mihalis Kakiouzis added 15 and 6-foot-10 Sofoklis Schortsianitis -- nicknamed "Baby Shaq" - bulled his way to 14 on 6-of-7 shooting.

The U.S. was led by its three captains -- Carmelo Anthony with 27 points, Dwyane Wade with 19 and LeBron James with 17.

:roll:


http://www.nba.com/media/cel_365_060901.jpg
Were '03 Duncan, '01 Kobe, '01 Shaq, and peak Kidd/CP3 on that team?

The team: Anthony, James, Brand, Johnson, Hinrich, Battier, Wade, Paul, Bosh, Howard.

You still don't get it, do you?

[3ball]

You still don't get it, do you?


From the article:



"The Greeks don't have an NBA player on their roster"

"The U.S. was led by its three captains -- Carmelo Anthony with 27 points, Dwyane Wade with 19 and LeBron James with 17."


I get it just fine.. It seems as if you're the one having a problem getting it

[aj1987]

From the article:



"The Greeks don't have an NBA player on their roster"

"The U.S. was led by its three captains -- Carmelo Anthony with 27 points, Dwyane Wade with 19 and LeBron James with 17."


I get it just fine.. It seems as if you're the one having a problem getting it
Read the OP, you mouth breathing retard.

[3ball]

Read the OP, you mouth breathing retard.


Compare the OP's 2000's team with the actual 2004 team:

OP's 2000's team: Duncan, Lebron, Iverson, Kobe, Shaq
Actual 2004 team: Duncan, Lebron, Iverson, Wade, Amare


Now the actual team was blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But according to you, OP's team beats Wilt/Russell/Oscar and the Dream Team...


http://media.giphy.com/media/11a8FLrVeoLnna/giphy.gif

[aj1987]

Compare the OP's 2000's team with the actual 2004 team:

OP's 2000's team: Duncan, Lebron, Iverson, Kobe, Shaq
Actual 2004 team: Duncan, Lebron, Iverson, Wade, Amare

Now the second team was blown away 93-72 by Carlos Arroyo's Puerto Rico... But according to you, the first team beats Wilt/Russell/Oscar and the Dream Team...


http://media.giphy.com/media/11a8FLrVeoLnna/giphy.gif
2004 - Wade and LeBron were rookies. How many times do I have to tell you that the '00's team =/= the '04 and '06 Team USA?

'00's covers 10 years.

Basically '03 Duncan, '09 LeBron, '01/'06 Kobe, '01 Iverson, and '01 Shaq. How is that team even comparable to the '04 and '06 Teams?

Christ, you're one dense idiot.

[3ball]

2004 - Wade and LeBron were rookies. How many times do I have to tell you that the '00's team =/= the '04 and '06 Team USA?


Who cares - they lost in 2006 when they weren't rookies, which was validation and confirmation of how weak the era was (as if their losses in 2002 and 2004 didn't already confirm it).

Heck, 2006 was Wade's peak when he was equal or better than Kobe - he played better in the 2006 Finals than Kobe ever did.. That team also had Lebron, Dwight, CP3, Carmelo... ****ing EVERYBODY.

Here's the issue - you can't say the 2000's was the strongest era ever when they lost to Euroleague over and over... Who cares if the team didn't have this one player or that one player - they had the eras best players and they lost over and over to Euroleague... So they CANNOT be the best era... Infact, repeated losses to Euroleague means that era MUST be the worst.

[aj1987]

Who cares - they lost in 2006 when they weren't rookies, which was validation and confirmation of how weak the era was (as if their losses in 2002 and 2004 didn't already confirm it).
No peak Shaq, no peak duncan, no peak LeBron, no peak Wade, and no peak Kobe.

In short, it wasn't even close to being the same team.


Heck, 2006 was Wade's peak when he was equal or better than Kobe - he played better in the 2006 Finals than Kobe ever did.. That team also had Lebron, Dwight, CP3, Carmelo... ****ing EVERYBODY.
Wade's peak was '09. CP3 was a rookie and Dwight was in his 2nd season and dude wasn't all that


Here's the issue - you can't say the 2000's was the strongest era ever when they lost to Euroleague over and over... Who cares if the team didn't have this one player or that one player - they had the eras best players and they lost over and over to Euroleague... So they CANNOT be the best era... Infact, repeated losses to Euroleague means that era MUST be the worst.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

**** off. Literally. I'm done explaining shit to you. Getting a 2nd grader to understand calculus is definitely easier than making you understand the fallacies in your "logic" and "reasoning".

As I said earlier, go play in traffic.

[ShawkFactory]

Who cares - they lost in 2006 when they weren't rookies, which was validation and confirmation of how weak the era was (as if their losses in 2002 and 2004 didn't already confirm it).

Heck, 2006 was Wade's peak when he was equal or better than Kobe - he played better in the 2006 Finals than Kobe ever did.. That team also had Lebron, Dwight, CP3, Carmelo... ****ing EVERYBODY.

Here's the issue - you can't say the 2000's was the strongest era ever when they lost to Euroleague over and over... Who cares if the team didn't have this one player or that one player - they had the eras best players and they lost over and over to Euroleague... So they CANNOT be the best era... Infact, repeated losses to Euroleague means that era MUST be the worst.
3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread were not on that team. 1 of the 2 that was (Lebron) was 19 years old and played 5 minutes a game.

[kshutts1]

What rules are they playing under?

'10s is the only decade with any semblance of shooting, but they don't have the size to compete anyway...

Considering the utter lack of spacing for all other decades, I'd say 60's win.

[3ball]

3 of the 5 players mentioned in this thread were not on that team. 1 of the 2 that was (Lebron) was 19 years old and played 5 minutes a game.


Here's the issue - you can't say the 2000's was the strongest era ever when they lost to Euroleague over and over...

Who cares if the team didn't have this one player or that one player - they had the eras best players and they lost over and over to Euroleague... So they CANNOT be the best era...

Infact, repeated losses to Euroleague means that era must be the WORST era.... That's the only way to describe the NBA when it can't beat Euroleague.

[r15mohd]

Why did you mention Chris Bosh?


typo...should be CB34 (Barkley), not CB4

[ShawkFactory]

Here's the issue - you can't say the 2000's was the strongest era ever when they lost to Euroleague over and over...

Who cares if the team didn't have this one player or that one player - they had the eras best players and they lost over and over to Euroleague... So they CANNOT be the best era...

Infact, repeated losses to Euroleague means that era must be the WORST era.... That's the only way to describe the NBA when it can't beat Euroleague.
Who said it was the strongest era ever? The collection of players listed is among the strongest however.

And I'm not sure you know what Euroleague is.

[r15mohd]

3ball, stfu already...mods, how do we get this fool out this thread :coleman:

[HOoopCityJones]

90's or 00's if it's Kidd or Nash at PG

[GoatBoy]

'10's showing just how guard oriented the league is becoming.. They would be destroyed by the size of all of the other eras.

I'm taking the 2000's. As many others have mentioned though, they would be better with a Kidd or Nash at PG to facilitate as they already have enough guys who can put up crazy scoring numbers

[catch24]

Doesn't really matter - ever since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely won in international play - this means they would get crushed by Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team..

It's pretty simple, obvious, and intuitive logic, so I'm feeling pretty good.. :confusedshrug:

It might not matter to you, but to MOST, 2004 was a bad TEAM makeup.

Having Marbury and Iverson playing together was a disaster. You combine that with having rookies and other young players at 19 and 20 competing with vets, and its not surprising they were upset.

So no, that wasn't their "best". Aside from Duncan, there were no All-NBA players.

BTW, since the 2000's, international and global play has been bigger and BETTER than ever. The competition has grown leaps since the 80s and 90s. Just a fact.

[RRR3]

catch, 3ball keeps harping on the 2004 team because in his delusional mind its a black mark on LeBron's resume, even though LeBron was pretty much the water boy.

[catch24]

catch, 3ball keeps harping on the 2004 team because in his delusional mind its a black mark on LeBron's resume, even though LeBron was pretty much the water boy.

:oldlol:

Not even sure he's trolling either. Like, does he realize that claiming Team USA "sent their best", they actually had just ONE all-nba player from that season? :facepalm

I do agree with his take on 2006 though. Just an embarrassing loss all-around.

[tmacattack33]

90's.

And you can put Peak Penny or Peak Gary Payton in at the PG spot instead of Stockton.

And maybe Pippen at the SF spot.


And if you let these teams have benches like a real game would have, 90's gets even better because their depth at the 4 and 5 would eat every other era alive (Hakeem/Shaq/David Robinson at the 5 and Malone/Barkley/Kemp at the 4)

[3ball]

:oldlol:

Not even sure he's trolling either. Like, does he realize that claiming Team USA "sent their best", they actually had just ONE all-nba player from that season? :facepalm

I do agree with his take on 2006 though. Just an embarrassing loss all-around.
Are you guys insane - how is the 2004 loss not a disgrace when Team USA had BY FAR the most talent of any team they played???... The best player on Puerto Rico (Carlos Arroyo) wouldn't have made Team USA - he wouldn't have been REMOTELY close to making it, yet his team won by 21 points.. But this isn't a disgrace?.

Furthermore, the 2002 and 2006 losses CONFIRMED that the 2004 loss was due to them sucking, not due to some talent deficit - the notion that the loss is okay because they didn't have enough talent is so dumb, I don't know what to say - they had BY FAR the most talent of any team!!!... It's wasn't remotely close.

[Showtime80']

To me these lists are skewed, they're basically putting the players that won titles in each decade. To me players like Barkley, Jordan, Hakeem, Ewing etc had some of their best years in the 1980's. To me the 80's blows EVERY decade away because you can start your team with 88' Jordan, 87 Magic and 86' Bird, no other decade has a starting nucleus like that. My 80's squad would look like this:

C:Hakeem, Kareem, Moses
PF: Barkley, McHale, Karl Malone
SF: Bird, Wilkins
SG: Jordan, Drexler
PG: Magic, Isiah

All members of the all time top 50 list and I'm living out guys like Ewing, Stockton, Price, King, Moncrieff, Worthy, Dr J, Alex English, Mark Aguirre, Joe Dumars to name a few

All other decades start falling off when going to their benches

[aj1987]

To me these lists are skewed, they're basically putting the players that won titles in each decade. To me players like Barkley, Jordan, Hakeem, Ewing etc had some of their best years in the 1980's. To me the 80's blows EVERY decade away because you can start your team with 88' Jordan, 87 Magic and 86' Bird, no other decade has a starting nucleus like that. My 80's squad would look like this:

C:Hakeem, Kareem, Moses
PF: Barkley, McHale, Karl Malone
SF: Bird, Wilkins
SG: Jordan, Drexler
PG: Magic, Isiah

All members of the all time top 50 list and I'm living out guys like Ewing, Stockton, Price, King, Moncrieff, Worthy, Dr J, Alex English, Mark Aguirre, Joe Dumars to name a few

All other decades start falling off when going to their benches

C: Shaq/Duncan/Dwight
PF: KG/Dirk/Pau/Webber
SF: LeBron/KD/Melo/Artest/Pierce
SG: Kobe/Wade/T-Mac/AI
PG: Kidd/CP3/Nash/Rondo

Deep AF and can compete with literally ANY decade.

[catch24]

Are you guys insane - how is the 2004 loss not a disgrace when Team USA had BY FAR the most talent of any team they played???... The best player on Puerto Rico (Carlos Arroyo) wouldn't have made Team USA - he wouldn't have been REMOTELY close to making it, yet his team won by 21 points.. But this isn't a disgrace?.

Furthermore, the 2002 and 2006 losses CONFIRMED that the 2004 loss was due to them sucking, not due to some talent deficit - the notion that the loss is okay because they didn't have enough talent is so dumb, I don't know what to say - they had BY FAR the most talent of any team!!!... It's wasn't remotely close.

Team USA could send their C group to the Olympics, and while they're more talented top-to-bottom than just about EVERY other country, there's a big chance they could still be upset.

Why is that you ask?

Talent alone doesn't bode out.

To beat the global elites, you need to send YOUR elites as well.

This isn't the 80s and 90s where Team USA can play whatever country, and murder teams with just a decent roster. The international game was at its PEAK in the 2000's, and is still getting better as we speak.

You need to watch more basketball outside of the Jordan spectrum.

[Mr Feeny]

C: Shaq/Duncan/Dwight
PF: KG/Dirk/Pau/Webber
SF: LeBron/KD/Melo/Artest/Pierce
SG: Kobe/Wade/T-Mac/AI
PG: Kidd/CP3/Nash/Rondo

Deep AF and can compete with literally ANY decade.

That team is a giant inside but tbf outside shooting is abysmal here. And Shaq and KG are getting in each others way aren't they?

Nor does lebron have room to drive to the basket when Shaq is camped there. It's 2010 cavs all over again.

[r15mohd]

That team is a giant inside but tbf outside shooting is abysmal here. And Shaq and KG are getting in each others way aren't they?

Nor does lebron have room to drive to the basket when Shaq is camped there. It's 2010 cavs all over again.


i think this is where Lebron and guys like TMac assume the Point-Forward role in being able to setup the offense and get the ball moving to the right guy, yet can still attack if needed.

one or two less PG's needed, more shooting. involve both, Nash and someone like Pierce who can play the SF/SG position and deadly with the jumper


perfect 00's team would be:

Shaq/Dwight
TD/Dirk/KG/Pau
Lebron/Melo/Pierce
Kobe/Wade/TMac
CP3/Nash/Kidd

[Mr Feeny]

i think this is where Lebron and guys like TMac assume the Point-Forward role in being able to setup the offense and get the ball moving to the right guy, yet can still attack if needed.

one or two less PG's needed, more shooting. involve both, Nash and someone like Pierce who can play the SF/SG position and deadly with the jumper


perfect 00's team would be:

Shaq/Dwight
TD/Dirk/KG/Pau
Lebron/Melo/Pierce
Kobe/Wade/TMac
CP3/Nash/Kidd

Yup. That could work. Lebron would be the playmaker. But you'd need a shooter as a PG. Having Kidd start with Lebron, KG and Shaq is just begging for a Spurs circa 2013 defense. You're team at the bottom there is a good one, I think.

[swagga]

This was posted by NBA on TNT, and certainly a good read and comment for here...id say be unbiased but we all know how that goes lol

http://i60.tinypic.com/4haw48.jpg

My pick is the 2000 era:
-MDE with Shaq at Center
-best PF ever in TimmyD
-arguably the best SF ever (but Bird!!! We know, we know-toss up)
-Kobe, 2/3rd greatest SG
-AI is pound for pound, one of the greatest players given his size and skill combo

really liked the 90s era, but I don't see Hakeem out dueling the 2000s Shaq, or the mailman over TD. Stockton fit this team a lot better than someone like AI in the 2000s squad, and CB4/LBJ is a wash on what they can provide. The gleaming advantage is MJ...GOAT will GOAT.
-they should have put Pippen at SF, then the matchup would have been a lot closer, personally.

so let me get this straight, the 00s get (all PEAKS)
a big rotation of shaq, duncan, kg, nowitzki
a wing rotation of lebron, kobe, tmac, ray allen, melo
a pg rotation of wade,cp3,iverson,nash,kidd

They could literally go with a lineup of
shaq - goat C peak
duncan - goat pf
lebron - goat sf
kobe - 2nd goat sg
cp3 - top 5 goat pg

Plus a DEEP rotation of crazy talent.

That team would skull**** the living shit out of any other era.

They got shaq/duncan/lebron/kobe doe. :biggums:

[90sgoat]

i think this is where Lebron and guys like TMac assume the Point-Forward role in being able to setup the offense and get the ball moving to the right guy, yet can still attack if needed.

one or two less PG's needed, more shooting. involve both, Nash and someone like Pierce who can play the SF/SG position and deadly with the jumper


perfect 00's team would be:

Shaq/Dwight
TD/Dirk/KG/Pau
Lebron/Melo/Pierce
Kobe/Wade/TMac
CP3/Nash/Kidd

This is why it doesn't work with these comparisons. You say Lebron could just be a point-forward. He was asked to be that this season with Love, but he couldn't and he wouldn't.

There has been nothing to indicate that Lebron can play a non-penetrating type offense.

[3ball]

Team USA could send their C group to the Olympics, and while they're more talented top-to-bottom than just about EVERY other country, there's a big chance they could still be upset.


Complete horseshit - if a team has gobs and gobs more talent, they're the overwhelming Vegas favorite... So there isn't a "big" chance they'll be upset - that's complete, utter bullshit that you're making up right now... It's the opposite - they're huge FAVORITES, with a tiny chance of upset.

Since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely beaten international competition - this means they would have zero chance against Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, or ANY other era.... Anyone that thinks barely beating Juan Carlos Navarro or getting blown away by Carlos Arroyo means USA could beat previous eras of the NBA's best, is insane.
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[Showtime80']

LOL aj1987 you had to get 20 PLAYERS on your roster yo compete with my 12!!!

If that's the case I'll add:

C: Ewing
PF: Rodman, Buck Williams
SF: Dr J, King, Worthy
SG: Moncrief
PG: Stockton

There's some more players from the all time top 50!

Pound for pound, NO decade can assemble the talent of the 80's.

Can you imagine the problems you're going to have with Kobe, LeBron, Shaq and KG in the starting back court?!? Shaq and Kobe wanted to kill each other and that was only when they had to share the ball between themselves!!! LOL

The 80's guys aside from Jordan were more accustomed to playing alongside more talented players overall and they knew how to sacrifice their stats to benefit their teams

You think dumb ass black holes like T-Mac, Melo or Iverson are sacrificing ANYTHING to benefit their teams?!? Please

And LOL at Rondo and Dwight "no offense or heart" Howard?!? I can find 30 players from the 80's I would take before those two!

The 80's rosters is full of iconic legends, the 00's represent the worst of the me first ball hogging hip hop generation, you know the one the league had to change the rules to eradicate their influence, that one!!!

[aj1987]

LOL aj1987 you had to get 20 PLAYERS on your roster yo compete with my 12!!!

If that's the case I'll add:

C: Ewing
PF: Rodman, Buck Williams
SF: Dr J, King, Worthy
SG: Moncrief
PG: Stockton

There's some more players from the all time top 50!

Pound for pound, NO decade can assemble the talent of the 80's.

Can you imagine the problems you're going to have with Kobe, LeBron, Shaq and KG in the starting back court?!? Shaq and Kobe wanted to kill each other and that was only when they had to share the ball between themselves!!! LOL

The 80's guys aside from Jordan were more accustomed to playing alongside more talented players overall and they knew how to sacrifice their stats to benefit their teams

You think dumb ass black holes like T-Mac, Melo or Iverson are sacrificing ANYTHING to benefit their teams?!? Please

And LOL at Rondo and Dwight "no offense or heart" Howard?!? I can find 30 players from the 80's I would take before those two!

The 80's rosters is full of iconic legends, the 00's represent the worst of the me first ball hogging hip hop generation, you know the one the league had to change the rules to eradicate their influence, that one!!!
I just listed players of the top off my head. Let me do a shorter one for you.

C: Shaq/Dwight
PF: Duncan/KG/Dirk
SF: LeBron/KD
SG: Kobe/Wade
PG: Kidd/CP3

GOAT peak as a C, GOAT PF, possibly the GOAT SF, 2nd GOAT SG, and GOAT level PG's.

That's 10 and those 10 could compete with any decade. Also, why do people forget shit that happened just a couple of seasons ago. Dwight was a beast before his back injury and was a 3x DPOY.

Again, I'm just listing the players. They lineups can be tweaked depending upon the need. Can Run a Shaq/Duncan/KD/Wade/Kidd lineup. Enough defense and definitely more than enough offense. Duncan/Dirk/LeBron/Kobe/CP3 is another really good lineup. As I said, the lineup can be tweaked.

Why do you old farts get so butthurt? I never said that the '00's are more talented than the '80's (thanks to injuries to some amazing players). The '00's lineup in the OP would beat any of the others though.

[catch24]

Complete horseshit - if a team has gobs and gobs more talent, they're the overwhelming Vegas favorite... So there isn't a "big" chance they'll be upset - that's complete, utter bullshit that you're making up right now... It's the opposite - they're huge FAVORITES, with a tiny chance of upset.

Since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely beaten international competition - this means they would have zero chance against Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, or ANY other era.... Anyone that thinks barely beating Juan Carlos Navarro or getting blown away by Carlos Arroyo means USA could beat previous eras of the NBA's best, is insane.
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What you STILL fail to grasp is that having "more talent" on paper doesn't win you basketball games.

There are TONS of so-called "average players" with more talent than certain all-stars. They just haven't tapped into it.

Beyond that, countries around the world have cut the once LARGE margin USA had in basketball supremacy. Spain alone circa 2008 and 2012 is better competition than ANY country the Dream Team faced back in 1992.

It isn't even arguable.

[3ball]

GOAT peak as a C


Wilt averaged 50/25, literally TWICE Shaq's numbers, but you're saying Shaq had the goat peak.. What a joke

Btw, your team has no chemistry - today's players don't know how to play basketball with good teamwork/chemistry.. Poor chemistry and an inability to play a good basketball is why since 2002, the USA has either lost or barely won, despite having an utterly massive talent advantage..

Today's players with their rudimentary 3-and-D mindset..... don't know how to play basketball... that's why they lose or barely win despite having a massive talent edge.
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[ShawkFactory]

What you STILL fail to grasp is that having "more talent" on paper doesn't win you basketball games.

There are TONS of so-called "average players" with more talent than certain all-stars. They just haven't tapped into it.

Beyond that, countries around the world have cut the once LARGE margin USA had in basketball supremacy. Spain alone circa 2008 and 2012 is better competition than ANY country the Dream Team faced back in 1992.

It isn't even arguable.
That Spanish team had all-stars and MVP candidates on it.

[catch24]

That Spanish team had all-stars and MVP candidates on it.

Exactly

[3ball]

There are TONS of so-called "average players" with more talent than certain all-stars. They just haven't tapped into it.

Beyond that, countries around the world have cut the once LARGE margin USA had in basketball supremacy. Spain alone circa 2008 and 2012 is better competition than ANY country the Dream Team faced back in 1992.

It isn't even arguable.


You're failing to grasp that you were wrong - as a huge vegas favorite, team USA did NOT have a "big" chance of upset... you were dead wrong and are now trying to spout some other bullshit about how international players haven't tapped into their talent.. What a joke... That's even dumber than saying team USA had a big chance of upset.

Again, team USA doesn't win by as much as their massive talent edge indicates they should... They barely win the medal games, because they never have good teamwork/chemistry - their basic, 3-and-D mindset is a DEVOLVEMENT from previous eras, when there was much more diversity in offenses.

[feyki]

Wilt eak better than Shaq's peak but 64-68 Wilt ? not 60-63 . Kareem,Bill,Wilt,Hakeem,Mikan had better peak than Shaq's . Shaq's peak is goat scorer center with Mikan and Young Wilt but score isn't mean everything .

[catch24]

You're failing to grasp that you were wrong - as a huge vegas favorite, team USA did NOT have a "big" chance of upset... you were dead wrong and are now trying to spout some other bullshit about how international players haven't tapped into their talent.. What a joke... That's even dumber than saying team USA had a big chance of upset.

Again, team USA doesn't win by as much as their massive talent edge indicates they should... They barely win the medal games, because they never have good teamwork/chemistry - their basic, 3-and-D mindset is a DEVOLVEMENT from previous eras, when there was much more diversity in offenses.

Team USA with their C/D group wouldn't and shouldn't be vegas favorites.

And the bold isn't BS. Its just a fact. There are heaps of players with projected and untapped potential ala talent. Doesn't mean anything.

19 year old LeBron had more talent than anyone in the the 2004 Olympics, but his inexperience and youth rendered him ineffective.

Had 2004 USA played the same competition the 1992 Dream Team did, they would win gold too.

[ShawkFactory]

You're failing to grasp that you were wrong - as a huge vegas favorite, team USA did NOT have a "big" chance of upset... you were dead wrong and are now trying to spout some other bullshit about how international players haven't tapped into their talent.. What a joke... That's even dumber than saying team USA had a big chance of upset.

Again, team USA doesn't win by as much as their massive talent edge indicates they should... They barely win the medal games, because they never have good teamwork/chemistry - their basic, 3-and-D mindset is a DEVOLVEMENT from previous eras, when there was much more diversity in offenses.
Please don't take this the wrong way..like as me conceeding that you are right, because you're insanely biased and spew more bullshit than anyone.

But..why do you hate any type of basketball that isn't directly involved with Michael Jordan? It just makes no sense to me. Is he your father? Like wtf, I'm sorry Illinois didn't work out or whatever

[catch24]

You're failing to grasp that you were wrong - as a huge vegas favorite, team USA did NOT have a "big" chance of upset... you were dead wrong and are now trying to spout some other bullshit about how international players haven't tapped into their talent.. What a joke... That's even dumber than saying team USA had a big chance of upset.

Again, team USA doesn't win by as much as their massive talent edge indicates they should... They barely win the medal games, because they never have good teamwork/chemistry - their basic, 3-and-D mindset is a DEVOLVEMENT from previous eras, when there was much more diversity in offenses.

Team USA with their C/D group wouldn't and shouldn't be vegas favorites.

And the bold isn't BS. Its just a fact. There are heaps of players with projected and untapped potential ala talent. Doesn't mean anything.

19 year old LeBron had more talent than anyone in the the 2004 Olympics, but his inexperience and youth rendered him ineffective.

Had 2004 USA played the same competition the 1992 Dream Team did, they would win gold too.

[aj1987]

Wilt averaged 50/25, literally TWICE Shaq's numbers, but you're saying Shaq had the goat peak.. What a joke

Btw, your team has no chemistry - today's players don't know how to play basketball with good teamwork/chemistry.. Poor chemistry and an inability to play a good basketball is why since 2002, the USA has either lost or barely won, despite having an utterly massive talent advantage..

Today's players with their rudimentary 3-and-D mindset..... don't know how to play basketball... that's why they lose or barely win despite having a massive talent edge.
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You do realize that Wilt played in the '60's, right? Going by your logic, Wilt is the GOAT and is a better player than MJ.

Rest of your post, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to talk about that with an idiot like yourself.

[3ball]

Team USA with their C/D group wouldn't and shouldn't be vegas favorites.

And the bold isn't BS. Its just a fact. There are heaps of players with projected and untapped potential ala talent. Doesn't mean anything.

19 year old LeBron had more talent than anyone in the the 2004 Olympics, but his inexperience and youth rendered him ineffective.

Had 2004 USA played the same competition the 1992 Dream Team did, they would win gold too.
What a joke - the 2004 team was blown away by 21 points to carlos arroyo's puerto rico... And from 2002-2006, team USA lost to many teams... 7 to be exact.

Those 2000's teams would lose to 1992 Croatia, Yugoslavia and many other teams - both of those teams were every bit as stacked with NBA players as today's Spain or Argentina... And again, those 2000's teams lost to EVERYBODY... To say they would beat the better international teams of the 90's is ridiculous.

[catch24]

What a joke - the 2004 team was blown away by 21 points to carlos arroyo's puerto rico... And from 2002-2006, team USA lost to many teams... 7 to be exact.

Those 2000's teams would lose to 1992 Croatia, Yugoslavia and many other teams - both of those teams were every bit as stacked with NBA players as today's Spain or Argentina... And again, those 2000's teams lost to EVERYBODY... To say they would beat the better international teams of the 90's is ridiculous.

Aside from 2006 (no Kobe, Shaq, KG, Kidd, or Duncan) - their C teams.

Once again, top-to-bottom, international competition is factually better TODAY than it was in the 80s and 90s.

You have to actually send your best to BEAT others best. Crazy concept right? :rolleyes:

[ShawkFactory]

Please don't take this the wrong way..like as me conceeding that you are right, because you're insanely biased and spew more bullshit than anyone.

But..why do you hate any type of basketball that isn't directly involved with Michael Jordan? It just makes no sense to me. Is he your father? Like wtf, I'm sorry Illinois didn't work out or whatever
But why? Did you think you'd be a lifelong virgin and happened to lose it during the 91 finals?

[juju151111]

3ball is a ****ing idiot80% of the time. Why do people respond to him?

[3ball]

You have to actually send your best to BEAT others best. Crazy concept right? :rolleyes:


You refuse to accept the facts - 90%+ of the international competition isn't good enough to make the NBA - the NBA should be able to send it's bench warmers and win.

But they didn't - they sent 12 players who were all in the top 10% of the league (12 of the top 40-50 players)... So the USA sent their top 10% in 2002, 2004, and 2006 (in 2006 they sent top 3%), yet they were still destroyed repeatedly.

Anytime a more talented team loses, they lose due to inferior brand of basketball/chemistry/teamwork... Considering the massive talent gap, there was a massive gap in brand of basketball that offset the talent.. The current era simply doesn't know how to play basketball compared to previous eras, which is why they either lose, or barely beat FAR less talented international teams.

[Mr Feeny]

Complete horseshit - if a team has gobs and gobs more talent, they're the overwhelming Vegas favorite... So there isn't a "big" chance they'll be upset - that's complete, utter bullshit that you're making up right now... It's the opposite - they're huge FAVORITES, with a tiny chance of upset.

Since 2002, the NBA's best has either lost, lost badly, or barely beaten international competition - this means they would have zero chance against Wilt/Russell/Oscar or the Dream Team, or ANY other era.... Anyone that thinks barely beating Juan Carlos Navarro or getting blown away by Carlos Arroyo means USA could beat previous eras of the NBA's best, is insane.
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For once, I'm with 3ball. The USA have been hugely underwhelming in international play since 04, even when factoring in the greater individual talent in their ranks.

Edit: I'm reading through this thread and you actually seem to be making the opposite point (that talent alone wins you games). Not sure you'd find many who will side with you there tbh. The 2004 Lakers were butchered by the 200 pistons and it wasn't because they had less talent.

[ShawkFactory]

You refuse to accept the facts - 90%+ of the international competition isn't good enough to make the NBA - the NBA should be able to send it's bench warmers and win.

But they didn't - they sent 12 players who were all in the top 10% of the league (12 of the top 40-50 players)... So the USA sent their top 10% in 2002, 2004, and 2006 (in 2006 they sent top 3%), yet they were still destroyed repeatedly.

Anytime a more talented team loses, they lose due to inferior brand of basketball/chemistry/teamwork... Considering the massive talent gap, there was a massive gap in brand of basketball that offset the talent.. The current era simply doesn't know how to play basketball compared to previous eras, which is why they either lose, or barely beat FAR less talented international teams.
But seriously?

[Dbrog]

Really tough between the 60s and 2000s.

Replace AI with Kidd or Nash and I'd take them.

Exactly this. It's pretty crazy too considering how many people were calling early 2000s one of the weakest eras ever. I'm guessing they were just overreacting to Jordan retiring without seeing the amount of elite superstar players in the league.

[90sgoat]

Exactly this. It's pretty crazy too considering how many people were calling early 2000s one of the weakest eras ever. I'm guessing they were just overreacting to Jordan retiring without seeing the amount of elite superstar players in the league.

The average talent was very low in the early 00s. The influx of high schoolers combined with old school rules made for some very ugly games when same high schoolers bricked open jumpshots. They still brick open jumpshots, but because everyone now either layup or shoot 3s then they're not exposed as much.

[Gotterdammerung]

Meant to post on this subject from last fall. A few adjustments to the listed teams are needed to make them more balanced and versatile in a hypothetical tournament.

60s: bring in Gus Williams for small ball insurance, he will be physical and athletic enough to run the floor with faster teams. Either Greer or Jones for off ball, outside shooting off the bench. Havlicek for all purpose plug in anywhere anytime. Wilt & Russell should be more situational than permanent fixtures in the starting lineups for balance.

70s: Barry brings scoring off the bench, and either Gervin or Thompson would be a superior fit over the showy Maravich. They'll be more efficient scorers and play faster without the ball. Willis Reed for interior physical play, DeBuscherre for intelligence at all levels.

80s: Bernard King would be unstoppable off the bench, slide Bird up front and install Rodman anywhere to play flypaper defense.

90s: Pippen replaces Barkley at 3, Payton for perimeter defense and Miller for off ball shooting. Barkley gets to play with 95 Robinson off bench.

00s: move LBJ to the 10s where his MVP and title years belong. Garnett inherits 3 spot, bench Iverson for Nash or Kidd. Howard for insurance if Shaq gets in foul trouble.

10s: with LBJ, & Curry of 2016, small ball lineup is perfected. Cousins or Griffin for upfront insurance , & Paul to control pace of game.


Now imagine the following tournament: 10s vs 60s. 00s vs 70s. 90s vs 80s. :cheers:

[ShawkFactory]

Exactly this. It's pretty crazy too considering how many people were calling early 2000s one of the weakest eras ever. I'm guessing they were just overreacting to Jordan retiring without seeing the amount of elite superstar players in the league.
Well if this thread is gonna be bumped...

Old heads like to say the new generation sucks...ergo lebron.

But they say Kobe, Duncan, Shaq and them are the respectable ones.

Well...that's the 2000 team

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

Since basketball with spacing is easier than basketball without spacing, I'll take the era that developed the skill needed to play without spacing

[Overdrive]

Since basketball with spacing is easier than basketball without spacing, I'll take the era that developed the skill needed to play without spacing

The guys up until the resent 3 point-ball movement era had no idea of the spacing, if they'd be sucked to the present they wouldn't know what would happen to them. The former eras are known to most present players. Film does exist.

You warp the 2000 onwards stars to the 70s and they still could play with the confinements of that era. Heck Jerry West made a fame on the perimeter when there was no 3pt line, but he was an anomaly.


OT: Those pictures are always nice, but what people always forget is that you need clue guys. Players that step back, but still work for their team. The Rodmans, Brian Grants, Bobby Joneses of their era.

That said the 00s are dreadful in chemistry. All top talent, but exchanging Iverson for Kidd would be a huge upgrade, also Lebron doesn't belong. I'd put him in the '10s. Marion or Ron Ron would be way better. In their prime they could score on all star level, but their overall game and defense was a big part of their career.

The 10s are the worst. All offense 0 defense. You have Harden on SF. Lebron would definately be an upgrade, but I'd let him play the 4 and slide Durant to the 3. AD isn't yet(and likely won't) be on the other centers' level. Curry would get eaten alive if he had to rely on Westbrook as his 2 against the other teams, barring upgrades even. Doesn't matter how good he is on the offensive end. Their biggest advantage is multiple three point shooters, but would you rely on Lebron and Durant on setting screens for the others? As said, clue guys..

90s are nice, but I think Stockton would have a big problem here. The main target for him throughout his whole career was Malone, but the other players would want touches, too. Especially Jordan.

I'd get rid of Malone on purpose breaking up the chemistry between the two so Stockton has to spread the wealth. Slide Barkley to the 4 and use Pippen on the three. Might even go as far to use Payton as PG.

80s. Isiah and Magic are a bad fit imo. Slide Magic on the 1, add Moncrief.

70s have the best make up of any team. Pieces fit, but I think their overall or rather average talent level is below that of the following eras.

[diamenz]

80's or 90's. both the perfect blend and peak of high iq mentalities, athleticism and skill. i'd replace charles with pipp just for added defense.

the 70's and 60's would be my runners up.

love the frontcourt of 00's but there's too many selfish egos on the perimeter to make it work. LoL @ the 10's besides curry.

[feyki]

Since basketball with spacing is easier than basketball without spacing, I'll take the era that developed the skill needed to play without spacing

I'm sure ;

85 to 93 LgOffensiveRtg - 107.9

12 to 16 LgOffensiveRtg - 105.7

[sportjames23]

One era has Michael Jordan (technically two eras do, but let's go with TNT's list). That era already has the edge. Add in Barkley, Malone and Olajuwon and it's game over.

[keep-itreal]

that 10's team is unbelievably weak.
:roll: :roll:

They would get murdered by every team from that image