emmanuel mudiay vs D'Angelo Russell

[juju151111]

Who will have the better rookie season and ultimately be the better player in the long run?

[outbreak]

Mudiay

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WCS

[Achilleas]

mudiay against gsw now he is playing very good and he score 2 3points
malone is a good coach and he will help mudiay to develope

[LoneyROY7]

Mudiay. He's much more dynamic offensively.

[Kobe_6/8]

Mudiay.

[Jameerthefear]

https://streamable.com/wjrf
uhhh mudiay

[FreezingTsmoove]

Draft scouts didn't take into account Mudiays EXTREMELY HARD WORK ETHIC when they dubbed him a horrible shooter pre draft

Already 6-15 in 3 pointers which is impressive given all the shit about his "horrible shooting"

[Cold soul]

Mudiay will have better rookie season but Russell the better overall career.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Mudiay will have better rookie season but Russell the better overall career.
:rockon: :rockon:

[NugzFan]

Mudiay will have better rookie season and the better overall career.


Fyp

[AirTupac]

Fyp

Yeah thats not happening :oldlol: :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

Yeah thats not happening :oldlol: :oldlol:

It might. You have no idea what will actually happen.

[AirTupac]

It might. You have no idea what will actually happen.

True. Neither do you. Cheers on seeing who will win :cheers:

[SwishSquared]

Draft scouts didn't take into account Mudiays EXTREMELY HARD WORK ETHIC when they dubbed him a horrible shooter pre draft

Already 6-15 in 3 pointers which is impressive given all the shit about his "horrible shooting"He's definitely showing a stroke, which is great. He had a couple-game stretch in China when he shot well, too, so I think it's early to declare anything right now. One thing to note is he really jumps when he shoots 3s- he may lose accuracy over the course of the game due to fatigue.

Has he improved his shooting/finishing inside the arc? Through 2 games I thought I read it wasn't pretty. Still super early though, so I'm not judging. That'd be a ridiculous sample size.

I'm curious to see how he shoots on FTs this season. He shot poorly in the "big event"-type games in HS and shot in the 50s in China right?

He's got a good feel for running the PnR imo, which is critical. I think he'll become a heck of a defender too, especially with Malone at the helm.

Not a bad way to replace Lawson though.

[imdaman99]

Why did you capitalize Russell's name but not Mudiay's?

[Kobe_6/8]

I'm curious to see how he shoots on FTs this season. He shot poorly in the "big event"-type games in HS and shot in the 50s in China right?


Not a bad way to replace Lawson though.

True.

Some of his worst games were against the more established Pro/NBA players, so will still likely need some work before being completely ready to help a team win consistently

only shot 34.2% from 3-point range and 57.4% from the FT stripe and will need to work on improving those numbers to keep defenses honest …

[NuggetsFan]

Key for Mudiay will be shooting. Teams will eventually just sag off him and take away the drive if he can't keep them honest. He doesn't even need to develop into a great shooter, if he can duplicate near what he did in China and shoot 35% from deep he'll be fine. Just can't be like Tyreke or Rondo. Looking good so far.

I'm curious to see what he looks like in a few years with NBA conditioning. He's 6'5/200 and has room to become a monster. He's not an elite leaper, which holds him back from being like the other elite athletic PG's. He looks good everywhere else tho. He's a bit bigger, really quick, fast, strong, has that first step etc. That gives him a pretty big advantage over Russell.

Too early to tell. Russell has a big edge shooting, Mudiay is far more athletic. One thing I will say tho is Russell coming in was suppose to have an advantage in terms of natural feel for the game, awareness, court vision etc. which is why he went higher and SL/preseason has shown that's not the case. Obviously a small sample size but with the eye test I don't see either standing far above eachother in those areas.

I'd keep Mudiay if Lakers offered to swap. I'd roll the dice on Mudiay's shooting becoming average.

[AirTupac]

Key for Mudiay will be shooting. Teams will eventually just sag off him and take away the drive if he can't keep them honest. He doesn't even need to develop into a great shooter, if he can duplicate near what he did in China and shoot 35% from deep he'll be fine. Just can't be like Tyreke or Rondo. Looking good so far.

I'm curious to see what he looks like in a few years with NBA conditioning. He's 6'5/200 and has room to become a monster. He's not an elite leaper, which holds him back from being like the other elite athletic PG's. He looks good everywhere else tho. He's a bit bigger, really quick, fast, strong, has that first step etc. That gives him a pretty big advantage over Russell.

Too early to tell. Russell has a big edge shooting, Mudiay is far more athletic. One thing I will say tho is Russell coming in was suppose to have an advantage in terms of natural feel for the game, awareness, court vision etc. which is why he went higher and SL/preseason has shown that's not the case. Obviously a small sample size but with the eye test I don't see either standing far above eachother in those areas.

I'd keep Mudiay if Lakers offered to swap. I'd roll the dice on Mudiay's shooting becoming average.

I wouldnt ever gamble on a player who needs to change his shot personally. Which is why I'm still picking D'Angelo over Mudiay. It'll be fun seeing how they develop.

[NuggetsFan]

I wouldnt ever gamble on a player who needs to change his shot personally. Which is why I'm still picking D'Angelo over Mudiay. It'll be fun seeing how they develop.

Mudiay's shot at times does look broken as shit. He shot decent in China and has looked ok from midrange. I don't expect him to shoot the 3 like he has been in preseason but I think this small sample size has shown that maybe he's not a Rondo/Tyreke like some people pegged him as.

My gamble wouldn't be that he fixes his shot and shoots 39% from 3. It'd be that his shot works enough for him to do damage inside and teams still have to guard him. If he can shoot 30-35% from 3 this season and make enough to keep teams honest I think he'll be fine.

Yeah should be fun. Russell has the Laker factor so you already know they'll be compared like crazy given the amount of Laker fans/haters.

[outbreak]

I wouldnt ever gamble on a player who needs to change his shot personally. Which is why I'm still picking D'Angelo over Mudiay. It'll be fun seeing how they develop.
I'd rather gamble on a players shot than on a player figuring out how to contribute when they are a few steps slower than every other guard they come up against though.

[NugzFan]

I wouldnt ever gamble on a player who needs to change his shot personally. Which is why I'm still picking D'Angelo over Mudiay. It'll be fun seeing how they develop.


Yeah... That's why you are picking Russell. :rolleyes:

[AirTupac]

Mudiay


Mudiay. He's much more dynamic offensively.


mudiay against gsw now he is playing very good and he score 2 3points
malone is a good coach and he will help mudiay to develope


Mudiay.


https://streamable.com/wjrf
uhhh mudiay


Draft scouts didn't take into account Mudiays EXTREMELY HARD WORK ETHIC when they dubbed him a horrible shooter pre draft

Already 6-15 in 3 pointers which is impressive given all the shit about his "horrible shooting"


Y'all are retards :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Combat Wombat]

Y'all are retards :roll: :roll: :roll:

You say that as if it wasn't already known prior to this thread.....

[AirTupac]

You say that as if it wasn't already known prior to this thread.....

Very good observation, future repped.

[sammichoffate]

That scrub Loneyroy said we fked up going with him over Porzingis too :sleeping

[FreezingTsmoove]

Y'all are retards :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nuggets 10 wins with Mudiay before he went down since December 11th


Lakers are not even close to 10 wins :lol

And with OKC, Jazz(2x), Warriors, and Pelicans it appears they still wont be close to 10 wins :lol

And all im saying was that draft scouts absolutely destroyed Mudiay for his shooting ability and they were wrong for that

He's still a teenager so is DAngelo

BTW Nuggets 4-10 without Mudiay. His impact was present

I'm not going to argue over two rookies, im just giving facts

[FreezingTsmoove]

Y'all are retards :roll: :roll: :roll:

And are you really going to call us retards over a 27 point scoring effort (11-16 FG) in a loss to the horrible defense of the Kings?

Mudiay had a 26 point scoring effort (10-16 FG) in a loss to the horrible defense of the suns but you don't see me taking shots at Russell or Russell stans

[FreezingTsmoove]

Emmanuel Mudiay 26 points vs the Suns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khwf2R-VKHg

[AirTupac]

Tell me what Mudiay's season averages are :lol :lol :lol

[FreezingTsmoove]

Tell me what Mudiay's season averages are :lol :lol :lol

Literally the same thing as Russells

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

I never said Mudiay is better than Russell and I never said Russell is better than Mudiay

and to call Mudiay a bad player just goes to show how delusional you are for holding a 19 yr old rookie PG forced into a starting role to such a high standard especially when said PG is going up against great starting PG's every game

Dont sit here and act like Russell wasn't putting up IDENTICAL numbers as Mudiay when he was a starter

[AirTupac]

Literally the same thing as Russells

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

I never said Mudiay is better than Russell and I never said Russell is better than Mudiay

and to call Mudiay a bad player just goes to show how delusional you are for holding a 19 yr old rookie PG forced into a starting role to such a high standard especially when said PG is going up against great starting PG's every game

Dont sit here and act like Russell wasn't putting up IDENTICAL numbers as Mudiay when he was a starter

LOL It's not identical. Mudiay is shooting 31% FG and 21% 3pt. Russell albeit a slow start has all of his numbers increased. You idiot :roll:

[AirTupac]

Maybe some stupid fans like seeing rookies perform worse over the course of the season. Me personally, I think its essential to see rookies improve.

http://i.imgur.com/JkGvUWY.png

Russell is averaging 28.1 mpg on a team with competition at the point guard position. Mudiay is averaging 30.1 mpg on a team with little point guard competition.


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[NugzFan]

Poor tupac. So insecure.

[AirTupac]

Classic no response of value from a nugs fan

[FreezingTsmoove]

LOL It's not identical. Mudiay is shooting 31% FG and 21% 3pt. Russell albeit a slow start has all of his numbers increased. You idiot :roll:

Well maybe Mudiays numbers will increase when he is BACK FROM INJURY

After all he was a 19 yr old PG who never went to college

And still led his team to 10 wins with a shit team

Anyway its pointless to compare FG% for rookies :lol

Russell has had big games, Mudiay has had big games

That's all that matters. If your only argument to who's better is FG% than I argue back that Mudiay is a better leader, defender, has won more games, and beat out his competition for the point guard position

Russell has been benched and still is riding the pine behind the worst PG in the league Jordan Clarkson

[FreezingTsmoove]

Poor tupac. So insecure.

Seriously Mudiay has been really impressive this season before his injury I am not sure where this hatred is coming from

[AirTupac]

Well maybe Mudiays numbers will increase when he is BACK FROM INJURY

After all he was a 19 yr old PG who never went to college

And still led his team to 10 wins with a shit team

Anyway its pointless to compare FG% for rookies :lol

Russell has had big games, Mudiay has had big games

That's all that matters. If your only argument to who's better is FG% than I argue back that Mudiay is a better leader, defender, has won more ga
mes, and beat out his competition for the point guard position

Russell has been benched and still is riding the pine behind the worst PG in the league Jordan Clarkson


LOL the eye test to any sane human being is clear as daylight that Mudiay isnt shit. D'Angelo will be a better defender, better scorer, playmaker, leader, winner etc.

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[NugzFan]

Classic no response of value from a nugs fan

when you finally make a post worth replying to, then I will.
until then your troll posts warrant no respect. :oldlol:

[AirTupac]

when you finally make a post worth replying to, then I will.
until then your troll posts warrant no respect. :oldlol:

Stats.
Facts.

No reply.

You lose bust mudiay boy

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[NugzFan]

Seriously Mudiay has been really impressive this season before his injury I am not sure where this hatred is coming from

insecurity. Perhaps jealousy. Fear. Boredom. Typical tupac trolling.

[NugzFan]

Stats.
Facts.

No reply.

You lose bust mudiay boy

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Lose what? Your opinion?

If only I cared. :oldlol:

[AirTupac]

Lose what? Your opinion?

If only I cared. :oldlol:

You care enough to always reply

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[FreezingTsmoove]

LOL the eye test to any sane human being is clear as daylight that Mudiay isnt shit. D'Angelo will be a better defender, better scorer, playmaker, leader, winner etc.

https://giant.gfycat.com/SlightPlainFoxhound.gif

The eye test? Like winning games? Mudiay has done that

And he has had big games Like Russell has had :facepalm

This mother****er won the same amount of games as Russell in a months less time (Got his 8th win on December 5th)

and dont give that BS about a crowded guard position because DAngelo was a starter back when Mudiay was healthy

[AirTupac]

The eye test? Like winning games? Mudiay has done that

And he has had big games Like Russell has had :facepalm

This mother****er won the same amount of games as Russell in a months less time (Got his 8th win on December 5th)

and dont give that BS about a crowded guard position because DAngelo was a starter back when Mudiay was healthy

Lakers are blatantly tanking. Stop using wins as some sort of argument lmfao.

[FreezingTsmoove]

LOL the eye test to any sane human being is clear as daylight that Mudiay isnt shit. D'Angelo will be a better defender, better scorer, playmaker, leader, winner etc.

https://giant.gfycat.com/SlightPlainFoxhound.gif


Based on what?

Why the **** are you hating so hard on Mudiay :wtf:

Your only argument at this point is potential predictions, FG% (When Russell's is only .080 better), and the eye test :facepalm

Just stop Mudiay has done nothing wrong to be villianized on ISH especially during his rehab process

We can continue this discussion when Mudiay comes back but this was a weird bump and you know it

[NuggetsFan]

Russell is the better shooter and more efficient as a rookie. Mudiay still the better defender, playmaker and while he hasn't been as efficient has flashed potential as a scorer with similar games.

It's funny. Russell went 2nd overall and Mudiay 7th. Russell is suppose to be the better player yet it's still a matter of preference right now. Russell is without a doubt more skilled, and Mudiay is struggling with his shot selection hense the brutal FG%. Russell's skill level should give him the edge early on in there careers but Mudiay's size, superior athletic ability, court vision still has me taking him for his potential.

I'm curious to see what Mudiay looks like after watching some tape and being out with an injury. Guy was leading the team in FGA at one point, still averages 3.2 3's a game and can't shoot. If he cleans that up he'll have a really nice rookie season.

[NugzFan]

The eye test? Like winning games? Mudiay has done that

And he has had big games Like Russell has had :facepalm

This mother****er won the same amount of games as Russell in a months less time (Got his 8th win on December 5th)

and dont give that BS about a crowded guard position because DAngelo was a starter back when Mudiay was healthy

Well said. :cheers:

Poor tupac. Trolling to hide his tears of the lakers season and future.

[AirTupac]

What fears? Russell has been improving as the season has went by meanwhile Mudiay has major problems with turnovers and shooting mechanics, something you dont want to deal with in a rookie. Sick 30% FG bruh

[NuggetsFan]

What fears? Russell has been improving as the season has went by meanwhile Mudiay has major problems with turnovers and shooting mechanics, something you dont want to deal with in a rookie. Sick 30% FG bruh

Turnovers among PG's are pretty common among rookies. Especially 19 year olds that have to lead there team from the get go. His FG% is brutal because he was leading the team in FGA and forced to do too much. FG% tends to rise for players as they get older/more experience.

30% is unacceptable and dogshit. His shot selection can be brutal. He's played 23 games, let's see where he finishes. He's a better defender, playmaker so far. Russell was drafted higher, has more skill. Less potential given his physical limitations compared to Mudiay IMO which is why I'd take Mudiay at the moment. Think Mudiay has more room to grow, and not the far behind him at the moment if at all. If he's still shooting sub 35% than yeah that'll change.

Russell could very well wind up being better. He did go 2nd, Mudiay 7th :confusedshrug:

[CarlosBoozer]

Nuggets got a good player at 7th, comparing them right now is stupid, way too young and early in their careers.

[NugzFan]

Nuggets got a good player at 7th, comparing them right now is stupid, way too young and early in their careers.

Agreed but OP can't help himself. It's all he has in an otherwise awful season. Hence the daily insecurity reminder threads. :oldlol:

[AirTupac]

Yeah OP is an idiot just like you Nugz :oldlol:

[FreezingTsmoove]

D Angelo Russell Update

2 points 2 assists on 1-3 FG

[AirTupac]

D Angelo Russell Update

2 points 2 assists on 1-3 FG

He tested out his ankle and it wasnt working so he had to sit out. Signs of a sore loser when youre cherry picking so hard :applause: :applause:

[NuggetsFan]

Basketball gods shining down upon us? Airtupac pimps Russell while slamming Mudiay who has a bum ankle and than Russell goes down with an ankle injury early next game.

I think there is a lesson to be learned here :lol

[midatlantic09]

Mudiay is terrible...but if you need 31% shooting and 6 turnover, holler at Mudiay!

[NugzFan]

D Angelo Russell Update

2 points 2 assists on 1-3 FG

:oldlol: