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stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:21 AM
Quit the BS. Bran's numbers H2H look better overall for simple reasons...1. Kobe was older and didn't look at playing against Bran as his personal championship. (Kobe felt that way playing against Jordan, while Bran felt that way playing against Kobe) 2. Bran uses tons of picks and would never dare go 1 on 1 against Kobe, because he'd be embarrassed. Kobe, as evidenced by the numbers, did not call for picks and just went straight at his student. 3. The Cavs had a much better team in a lot of those match-ups, while Kobe was carrying Kwame and Smush to the playoffs, still.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/11145/the-stats-are-backing-kobe-bryant-against-lebron-james

And here are the numbers: Kobe has scored 20 points (free throws included) on 27 isolation plays when guarded on-ball by LeBron, while LeBron has scored seven points on 13 isolation plays when guarded by Kobe. Bryant shot 9-for-28 from the field with two turnovers, while James was two-for-eight with just one gaffe. Finally, on a points-per-play basis, Kobe is ahead .74 to .54.

Gileraracer
10-14-2015, 11:23 AM
James shoots 27% beyond 5ft, did anyone expect another outcome?

GIF REACTION
10-14-2015, 11:24 AM
Quit the BS. Bran's numbers H2H look better overall for simple reasons...1. Kobe was older and didn't look at playing against Bran as his personal championship. (Kobe felt that way playing against Jordan, while Bran felt that way playing against Kobe) 2. Bran uses tons of picks and would never dare go 1 on 1 against Kobe, because he'd be embarrassed. Kobe, as evidenced by the numbers, did not call for picks and just went straight at his student. 3. The Cavs had a much better team in a lot of those match-ups, while Kobe was carrying Kwame and Smush to the playoffs, still.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/11145/the-stats-are-backing-kobe-bryant-against-lebron-james

And here are the numbers: Kobe has scored 20 points (free throws included) on 27 isolation plays when guarded on-ball by LeBron, while LeBron has scored seven points on 13 isolation plays when guarded by Kobe. Bryant shot 9-for-28 from the field with two turnovers, while James was two-for-eight with just one gaffe. Finally, on a points-per-play basis, Kobe is ahead .74 to .54.

Remember, these figures were determined from very small sample sizes. Tiny. Darn near minuscule. Forty iso's in all. You're talking an average of about one attempt per game from James and just four from Bryant. Plus, isolation plays may be the kissing-est cousin the NBA has to one-on-one play, but it's not the same thing to being on the floor with four other guys per side, trying to operate against a defender while working within a system, being mindful of the double that may come and who you'd pass to if it does ... and on down the line with every wrinkle presented during an actual league outing. In-game situations don't replicate the single-minded nature of playing one-on-one, so it would be foolish to let these figures convince you otherwise.

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:24 AM
James shoots 27% beyond 5ft, did anyone expect another outcome?

I only report such things because his stans are delusional and i'm hoping I can help them.

inclinerator
10-14-2015, 11:25 AM
maybe if kobe would have guarded lebron the entire game he would have won some more head to head matchups

ShaqTwizzle
10-14-2015, 11:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YM6NbfE.gif

aj1987
10-14-2015, 11:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sz5wJdz.png

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YM6NbfE.gif

Kobe's like 5 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter and he stood there like Rocky Marciano...:applause:

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sz5wJdz.png

Decided to move on from your lies?

I thought so.

GIF REACTION
10-14-2015, 11:30 AM
Kobe's like 5 inches
Fam.... We KNOW. Little bean bryant

Marchesk
10-14-2015, 11:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sz5wJdz.png

Don't see any advanced stats. :confusedshrug:

DavisIsMyUniBro
10-14-2015, 11:34 AM
Although I believe lebron is a far superior player at his peak, I believe that kobe may be a better iso player.

Marchesk
10-14-2015, 11:35 AM
Melo is a better iso player than Lebron.

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:35 AM
Melo is a better ISO player than Lebron.

A LOT of players are better ISO players than Bran. A LOT.

Wade's Rings
10-14-2015, 11:39 AM
Quit the BS. Bran's numbers H2H look better overall for simple reasons...1. Kobe was older and didn't look at playing against Bran as his personal championship. (Kobe felt that way playing against Jordan, while Bran felt that way playing against Kobe) 2. Bran uses tons of picks and would never dare go 1 on 1 against Kobe, because he'd be embarrassed. Kobe, as evidenced by the numbers, did not call for picks and just went straight at his student. 3. The Cavs had a much better team in a lot of those match-ups, while Kobe was carrying Kwame and Smush to the playoffs, still.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/11145/the-stats-are-backing-kobe-bryant-against-lebron-james

And here are the numbers: Kobe has scored 20 points (free throws included) on 27 isolation plays when guarded on-ball by LeBron, while LeBron has scored seven points on 13 isolation plays when guarded by Kobe. Bryant shot 9-for-28 from the field with two turnovers, while James was two-for-eight with just one gaffe. Finally, on a points-per-play basis, Kobe is ahead .74 to .54.

That article is from 2010.

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:43 AM
That article is from 2010.

Fantastic.

I guess you want to include Kobe's play on one leg?

DavisIsMyUniBro
10-14-2015, 11:45 AM
Fantastic.

I guess you want to include Kobe's play on one leg?


lebron isnt exactly known for his iso game.

Wade's Rings
10-14-2015, 11:48 AM
Fantastic.

I guess you want to include Kobe's play on one leg?

IIRC he wasn't on 1 leg in 2011 or 2012. This probably also includes Bron's Rookie Year while Kobe was all prime in this stretch.

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 11:48 AM
IIRC he wasn't on 1 leg in 2011 or 2012. This probably also includes Bron's Rookie Year while Kobe was all prime in this stretch.

So you hate Kobe.

Gotcha.

JT123
10-14-2015, 11:51 AM
That article is from 2010.
Wait, you mean to tell me that Kobe struggled to beat a pre prime Lebron? :lebronamazed: :roll:

DavisIsMyUniBro
10-14-2015, 11:53 AM
Fantastic.

I guess you want to include Kobe's play on one leg?

kobe played 1 game against lebron post injury.

Wade's Rings
10-14-2015, 11:59 AM
So you hate Kobe.

Gotcha.

No just saying if this had a few more years when Kobe was healthy included it would be better.

Edit: I don't think Kobe and Bron played against each other in the 03-04 Season.

DavisIsMyUniBro
10-14-2015, 11:59 AM
Wait, you mean to tell me that Kobe struggled to beat a pre prime Lebron? :lebronamazed: :roll:


just sayin, peak lebron imo was 09.

I think you hate on kobe too much, but at the same time, I honestly consider peak lebron to be higher than most of his stans suggest.

(most of his stans say something like 6 or 7 but I put his peak at 3rd or 4th)

r15mohd
10-14-2015, 12:00 PM
kobe played 1 game against lebron post injury.


well that can be said of any player vs Kobe sherlock :rolleyes:


so take away that one game, and there's still 19 that remain where they've played against each other, in which Lebron leads favorably.

Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01


also, to the OP's rhetoric:


Originally Posted by stalkerforlife

Quit the BS. Bran's numbers H2H look better overall for simple reasons...1. Kobe was older and didn't look at playing against Bran as his personal championship. (Kobe felt that way playing against Jordan, while Bran felt that way playing against Kobe) 2. Bran uses tons of picks and would never dare go 1 on 1 against Kobe, because he'd be embarrassed. Kobe, as evidenced by the numbers, did not call for picks and just went straight at his student. 3. The Cavs had a much better team in a lot of those match-ups, while Kobe was carrying Kwame and Smush to the playoffs, still.

Quit the BS he says...but then uses irrelevances like using more picks and Kobe being older (though that same time frame is when most Kobe-stans agrees to Kobe peaking) as his response. :rolleyes: :facepalm :rolleyes:

continue the fail at life for useless rhetoric to make a point, and also congrats on the Gators QB woes :D

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 12:03 PM
well that can be said of any player vs Kobe sherlock :rolleyes:


so take away that one game, and there's still 19 that remain where they've played against each other, in which Lebron leads favorably.

Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01


also, to the OP's rhetoric:



Quit the BS he says...but then uses irrelevances like using more picks and Kobe being older (though that same time frame is when most Kobe-stans agrees to Kobe peaking) as his response. :rolleyes: :facepalm :rolleyes:

continue the fail at life for useless rhetoric to make a point, and also congrats on the Gators QB woes :D

Meet me in Temecula if you want some.

r15mohd
10-14-2015, 12:10 PM
Meet me in Temecula if you want some.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Temecula...seriously? what no badminton lessons today with your pals, you rather e-thug on ISH instead? :D


http://in1.ccio.co/r1/eB/c2/16f9770cbfb4a96d61103d36e3229b67.jpg

stalkerforlife
10-14-2015, 12:12 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Temecula...seriously? what no badminton lessons today with your pals, you rather e-thug on ISH instead? :D


http://in1.ccio.co/r1/eB/c2/16f9770cbfb4a96d61103d36e3229b67.jpg

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387354

DavisIsMyUniBro
10-14-2015, 12:18 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387354

invalid thread specified.

JT123
10-14-2015, 12:21 PM
OP banned. :oldlol:

RRR3
10-14-2015, 12:23 PM
Bran lit up Bean like a christmas tree every time they met. Stay mad OP.

Lebron23
10-14-2015, 12:23 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01

14 wins, 6 losses

Vaniiiia
10-14-2015, 12:30 PM
OP banned. :oldlol:
:roll:

Guy is just dumb. Makes a stupid 20four parody thread like it won't immediately be closed.... completely unaware that he would immediately be banned. :facepalm

He's 33 years old. My God.

He's trying to be funny but has no charm. RMWG has no time for that shit.

RRR3
10-14-2015, 12:31 PM
Kobe is scared to guard LeBron :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edOQzMAIBXw


ShookBe

kennethgriffin
10-14-2015, 12:37 PM
whether or not kobe has the advantage in iso's or lebron has the advantage in his team winning


its the regular season and i personally dont care


kobe had bigger games in the regular season overall..


way more 40, 50, 60 point games. which lebron will never touch


and an 81 point game that lebron wouldnt match even if he were given 1.5 worth of playing time



fact is us kobe fans are more proud of the 5 for 7 finals record than any of that


which is why all we do is remind lebron fans that hes 2 for 6. and not that his career high is a pathetic 61 points. which happens to be 1 point less than kobes 3 quarter record

Mr. Jabbar
10-14-2015, 12:43 PM
Stalker4life, even though we root for different players I already miss you bro, hopefully you come back strong after the ban :cheers:

ShaqTwizzle
10-14-2015, 12:46 PM
its the regular season and i personally dont care


Good point.
Playoffs matter much more.
Lebron has more 40pt+ playoff games then Kobe does in less games.


kobe had bigger games in the regular season overall..
way more 40, 50, 60 point games. which lebron will never touch

So does Iverson.
Does anyone really care about gunner games against mostly fodder competition in the reg-season?
I don't care that Wilt did it and I don't care that Kobe did it.

r15mohd
10-14-2015, 01:08 PM
Good point.
Playoffs matter much more.
Lebron has more 40pt+ playoff games then Kobe does in less games.



So does Iverson.
Does anyone really care about gunner games against mostly fodder competition in the reg-season?
I don't care that Wilt did it and I don't care that Kobe did it.


Kenny is in hiding from this lol

Mr Feeny
10-14-2015, 04:25 PM
Wait. The dimwit got banned?:lol

NBASTATMAN
10-14-2015, 08:10 PM
James shoots 27% beyond 5ft, did anyone expect another outcome?


Hasnt this been the case his entire playing career when being defended by anyone who can stay in front of him...

Straight_Ballin
10-14-2015, 08:41 PM
James shoots 27% beyond 5ft, on single coverage did anyone expect another outcome?

Fixed

Goro
10-14-2015, 08:44 PM
Little dick betas like little dick betas. Ain't that right, OP?