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Nick Young
10-15-2015, 11:26 AM
Fuming Bernie supporters: Why is CNN deleting our comments?
Hundreds on Facebook complain about network’s pro-Hillary coverage
CNN debate FB poll
Seeing their comments repeatedly deleted by CNN, Bernie Sanders supporters are hopping mad today.
Already feeling the news network’s coverage had become rabidly pro-Hillary in the aftermath of last night’s debate, Facebook users leaving reactions on CNN’s page are now continually re-posting them, knowing they will be quickly removed. There are hundreds in a seeming battle with the network, with no explanation as to why.
Some users and messages appear to be specifically targeted, especially those accusing CNN of having conflicts of interest that make it naturally inclined to back Hillary.
In particular, they’re citing last night’s initial Facebook poll data showing Bernie had won the debate handily. They are claiming the network is now burying that information in today’s coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C_lcueFUE8
https://s3.amazonaws.com/medeq/files/uploads/2015/10/14172056/CNN-deleting-comments-from-Sanders-supporters.png
http://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2015/10/fuming-bernie-supporters-why-is-cnn-deleting-our-comments
CNN is owned by Time Warner. Time Warner is Hillary Clinton's 7th largest donator.
CNN is no different from Fox News.
fpliii
10-15-2015, 11:44 AM
Pretty shady. The media narrative is mind-boggling, I don't know how one could view the debate as a huge Hillary victory, at all. It's either spin, or a complete lack of understanding of the political machine on my part (probably a bit of both).
HitandRun Reggie
10-15-2015, 11:45 AM
CNN has never been known as unbiased outlet. Not a surprise. I remember in the Bush days, they would occasionally put offensive words in the image source of Bush and Cheney photos. :oldlol:
Nanners
10-15-2015, 11:45 AM
The fix is clearly in, but this seems like a risky strategy for CNN.... aint they ever heard of the streisand effect?
kNIOKAS
10-15-2015, 11:55 AM
The fix is clearly in, but this seems like a risky strategy for CNN.... aint they ever heard of the streisand effect?
No, please tell CNN (and us) what is it?
Nanners
10-15-2015, 11:58 AM
No, please tell CNN (and us) what is it?
you are kidding right?
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 12:01 PM
you are kidding right?
I also don't know what the Streisand effect is, but I will google it. All I know is she's an ugly woman with a big honking schnozzola who makes shitty music.
NumberSix
10-15-2015, 12:05 PM
Yeah, the media is in the tank for the democrat establishment. We've been telling y'all this for years.
kNIOKAS
10-15-2015, 12:06 PM
you are kidding right?
No. I know Barbara Streisand to be a very annoying song. Not much besides that
aj1987
10-15-2015, 12:33 PM
No. I know Barbara Streisand to be a very annoying song. Not much besides that
It's when shit becomes more famous the harder you try to hide it. Something like that. IIRC, Streisand tried to sue someone to hide her pictures, which no-one knew about and due to the lawsuit, they became extremely extremely well known.
kNIOKAS
10-15-2015, 01:11 PM
It's when shit becomes more famous the harder you try to hide it. Something like that. IIRC, Streisand tried to sue someone to hide her pictures, which no-one knew about and due to the lawsuit, they became extremely extremely well known.
Alright, makes sense... Streisand is lucky to get that shit named after her. Let me see the pics now
Derka
10-15-2015, 01:20 PM
The whole post-debate thing has been insanely damning for CNN and rightly so.
CNN is hardly the only network guilty of this, by the way.
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 01:26 PM
The whole post-debate thing has been insanely damning for CNN and rightly so.
CNN is hardly the only network guilty of this, by the way.
Forreal. CNN has the same amount of "journalistic integrity" as Fox News and Gawker Media do.
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 01:33 PM
Seems like a stupid thing to do if true.
If you actually watch CNN their airtime is pretty even for Bernie-Hillary-Biden and TRUMP-carson-jeb-rubio; the exception being when Trump or Carson says something stupid.
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 01:43 PM
Seems like a stupid thing to do if true.
If you actually watch CNN their airtime is pretty even for Bernie-Hillary-Biden and TRUMP-carson-jeb-rubio; the exception being when Trump or Carson says something stupid.
It is true. The evidence is right there in front of you.
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 02:02 PM
It is true. The evidence is right there in front of you.
Not saying it isn't, but a screenshot of someone saying their comments were deleted is not proof that they were in fact deleted, nor does it prove they are taking part in any systematic discrimination towards Sanders relative to Hillary or other candidates.
Dbrog
10-15-2015, 02:07 PM
Deuce, you realize the media has evolved to serve politics instead of the nation's citizens right? It used to not be this way (according to my 63 year old parents) and the way they described articles and shit actually sound a lot like the internet articles and independent reporting which occurs today. Media is driven by $$$ now rather than true news.
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 02:11 PM
Deuce, you realize the media has evolved to serve politics instead of the nation's citizens right? It used to not be this way (according to my 63 year old parents) and the way they described articles and shit actually sound a lot like the internet articles and independent reporting which occurs today. Media is driven by $$$ now rather than true news.
Uh, OK.
Did you watch the debate and their post coverage?
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 02:15 PM
Uh, OK.
Did you watch the debate and their post coverage?
Yes, it was overwhelmingly a circle jerk for Hillary with everyone declaring her the winner. They gave Sanders some positives for defending Hillary by saying he didn't want to talk about the email scandal.
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 02:23 PM
Yes, it was overwhelmingly a circle jerk for Hillary with everyone declaring her the winner. They gave Sanders some positives for defending Hillary by saying he didn't want to talk about the email scandal.
Lol, I don't believe anyone declared her the winner. Most their contributors felt she gave the performance she needed. They said the same thing about Bernie while focusing on his comment about her emails. I also believe the first and only post debate interview was with Bernie and his wife. If you actually watch CNN they cover Bernie every show all day.
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 02:43 PM
Lol, I don't believe anyone declared her the winner. Most their contributors felt she gave the performance she needed. They said the same thing about Bernie while focusing on his comment about her emails. I also believe the first and only post debate interview was with Bernie and his wife. If you actually watch CNN they cover Bernie every show all day.
http://i.imgur.com/kwUIpTJ.jpg
:confusedshrug:
Dbrog
10-15-2015, 02:48 PM
Lol, I don't believe anyone declared her the winner. Most their contributors felt she gave the performance she needed. They said the same thing about Bernie while focusing on his comment about her emails. I also believe the first and only post debate interview was with Bernie and his wife. If you actually watch CNN they cover Bernie every show all day.
You blind buddy?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/democratic-debate-2015-winners-losers/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/opinions/democratic-debate-roundup/index.html
Perfect indication of my original comment in this thread in the pic Nick posted btw
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 02:50 PM
Hillary calls herself a liberal progressive? Her track record in politics shows her to be as conservative as conservative can get.
bladefd
10-15-2015, 05:19 PM
Internet on the left, TWC/CNN on the right
http://i.giphy.com/Vs6ASalhnbomk.gif
Sanders on left, Clinton on the right
http://i.giphy.com/pjjyvQ2sUl4gU.gif
bonus (me as Liu Kang, Baraka as Nick Young):
http://i.giphy.com/CatCCFZa6U8nK.gif
:coleman: :coleman:
BasedTom
10-15-2015, 05:21 PM
Clinton News Network
poido123
10-15-2015, 05:54 PM
Uh, OK.
Did you watch the debate and their post coverage?
Deuce Wallace is one of those cats who refuses to see truth because it might mean that he has to agree with someone else or change his own stupid opinions.
:oldlol:
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 07:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kwUIpTJ.jpg
:confusedshrug:
Jesus you are thick. She won, as the subtext on one of the covers for the magazine and I previously said, because she didn't **** up and came off strong enough on most points. All the same people feel Bernie had a good night too. He was also a winner. The other three were losers because they had no standout moments like Fiorina and Kasich in the first 2 debates.
I know it's hard for basketball message boards stans with a never ending stream of agendas and trolling, but there can be multiple winners and losers in a debate when backdropped against the greater context of the 1.5 year long election cycle.
She clearly had the best night given her current political situation/polling while Bernie was near perfect except his sticky stance on gun control and passing at the opportunity to bash her on the email server even though I'm happy he decided to focus on the issues.
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 07:56 PM
Jesus you are thick. She won, as the subtext on one of the covers for the magazine and I previously said, because she didn't **** up and came off strong enough on most points. All the same people feel Bernie had a good night too. He was also a winner. The other three were losers because they had no standout moments like Fiorina and Kasich in the first 2 debates.
I know it's hard for basketball message boards stans with a never ending stream of agendas and trolling, but there can be multiple winners and losers in a debate when backdropped against the greater context of the 1.5 year long election cycle.
She clearly had the best night given her current political situation/polling while Bernie was near perfect except his sticky stance on gun control and passing at the opportunity to bash her on the email server even though I'm happy he decided to focus on the issues.
Lol, I don't believe anyone declared her the winner.
:confusedshrug:
DeuceWallaces
10-15-2015, 07:59 PM
:confusedshrug:
During the broadcast. Of the debate. Which you and I were talking about.
No one employed by CNN or even any of the main contributors outside of reps interviewed in the spin-room declared her a winner; hence no systematic favoritism. You can post all the articles you want from pundits and analysts. Their job is to judge, while CNN, is quite good at presenting a politically neutral product.
Nick Young
10-15-2015, 08:15 PM
During the broadcast. Of the debate. Which you and I were talking about.
No one employed by CNN or even any of the main contributors outside of reps interviewed in the spin-room declared her a winner; hence no systematic favoritism. You can post all the articles you want from pundits and analysts.
http://www.picgifs.com/glitter-gifs/f/flip-flops/picgifs-flip-flops-338507.gif
Their job is to judge, while CNN, is quite good at presenting a politically neutral product.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfartwZpef1qcqqpjo1_500.gif
CNN is looking worse than Fox right now, and that sucks.
The Valley
10-16-2015, 12:02 AM
This doesn't surprise me even a teeny tiny bit.
BasedTom
10-16-2015, 12:26 AM
Uh, OK.
Did you watch the debate and their post coverage?
I'm not registered with either party (and therefore don't have a primary vote in my state) so I'm entering these debates without any significant bias
I didn't see Hillary do enough to get past the criticism that people are levying at her. She smiled a lot, and reminded us very much that she is a women- but that isn't anything new whatsoever... I wanted substance, and I don't feel that she delivered much of it at all- nor did she match Trump in the charisma/entertainment aspect to make up for it. (trump's weakness in my opinion is that he doesn't actually say much)
I was also expecting more from Bernie...he's formulated his positions much better in the past. In this debate it felt more like he was repeating the same buzzwords over and over again, which I guess hammers it home more, but didn't quite seem like it was something that could truly make an impact. I imagine that casual viewers might gravitate more towards him if they're largely unfamiliar with him, but that's already part of the social media campaign. That is where he has truly made a name for himself, and where I imagine where he'll have to keep making strides.
CNN's post debate coverage definitely seemed off to me. They were applauding Hillary, also somehow saying that Biden suffered and should probably give up in the aftermath...How? This was the first debate, and I felt as if Biden could watch it with the confidence that he could take a commanding presence on the stage...What did Clinton do that sealed the race for her? Call out Bernie for being too soft on guns?
another thing is that they were commenting that it was a much more civil debate than the republican one. Well the reason for that seems obvious- The Republican field has 2 debates going on, and even the main one has like 10 people on it. Then you factor in that the republican field has had trump/carson/fiorina rising in popularity- along with other contenders like bush, rubio, cruz while the dem field is basically just Clinton and Sanders at the moment.
JerrySeinfeld
10-16-2015, 12:33 AM
I tried to tell y'all
KyrieTheFuture
10-16-2015, 12:47 AM
DW you sound like a complete idiot right now, just move along
outbreak
10-16-2015, 02:35 AM
http://browncardigan.s3.amazonaws.com/imagesfarm/2015/0NUQwFRP0W2LoBQ.jpg
KevinNYC
10-16-2015, 04:09 AM
Her track record in politics shows her to be as conservative as conservative can get.
:roll:
Nick Young
10-16-2015, 04:34 AM
:roll:
Pro-Iraqi war.
Pro-Patriot act.
What more do you need breh? She is close to Sarah Palin levels of conservativeness if you look at her record objectively.
Pro-Iraqi war.
Pro-Patriot act.
What more do you need breh? She is close to Sarah Palin levels of conservativeness if you look at her record objectively.
But she'll take your guns away. Also, she will fight for women and minorities (not as much for gay rights).
knickballer
10-16-2015, 11:13 AM
Americans care more about having a cool president rather than someone who actually will get the job done. They pretty much want a celebrity and it's always been that way from Reagan to Obama to now Trump/Clinton..
KevinNYC
10-16-2015, 12:30 PM
Pro-Iraqi war.
Pro-Patriot act.
What more do you need breh? She is close to Sarah Palin levels of conservativeness if you look at her record objectively.
by the way, you're not a moderate, you're a reactionary on several issues. It's more of a reactionary mindset, than reactionary politics though.
You also have a deep-deep love of trolling and dishonest argumentation which you exhibit here.
Putting aside the fact that there was never a vote on the invasion of Iraq, ignoring recent positions she took, on the two issues Clinton has been most identified with she has been steadfastly, Pro-universal health-care and Pro choice. Yeah, she's just marching arm in arm with Sarah Palin objectively.
Also you can look objectively at her record through a tool like DW-NOMINATE. (http://voteview.com/) She was basically the 13th most liberal senator during the time she served. For comparison, Biden was the median and Obama was about halfway between Clinton and Biden.
107th Senate
1 WELLSTONE -0.618
2 CORZINE -0.469
3 BOXER -0.465
4 KENNEDY, ED -0.460
5 SARBANES -0.448
6 DAYTON -0.438
7 AKAKA -0.423
8 LEVIN, CARL -0.411
9 FEINGOLD -0.406
10 REED -0.401
11 LEAHY -0.386
12 MIKULSKI -0.385
13 CLINTON -0.381
108th Senate
1 CORZINE -0.469
2 BOXER -0.465
3 KENNEDY ED -0.460
4 SARBANES -0.448
5 DAYTON -0.438
6 AKAKA -0.423
7 LEVIN CARL -0.411
8 FEINGOLD -0.406
9 LAUTENBERG -0.403
10 REED -0.401
11 LEAHY -0.386
12 MIKULSKI -0.385
13 CLINTON -0.381
109th Senate
1 CORZINE -0.469
2 BOXER -0.465
3 KENNEDY ED -0.460
4 SARBANES -0.448
5 DAYTON -0.438
6 AKAKA -0.423
7 LEVIN CARL -0.411
8 FEINGOLD -0.406
9 LAUTENBERG -0.403
10 REED -0.401
11 LEAHY -0.386
12 MIKULSKI -0.385
13 CLINTON -0.381
110th Senate
1 SANDERS -0.523
2 BOXER -0.465
3 KENNEDY ED -0.460
4 WHITEHOUSE -0.457
5 BROWN -0.452
6 AKAKA -0.423
7 LEVIN CARL
8 FEINGOLD -0.406
9 LAUTENBERG -0.403
10 REED -0.401
11 LEAHY -0.386
12 MIKULSKI -0.385
13 CLINTON -0.381
KevinNYC
10-16-2015, 12:35 PM
If you include the House in the numbers, in her last term, she was more liberal than 85 percent of all members while Obama was more liberal than 82 percent.
Nick Young
10-16-2015, 12:55 PM
But she'll take your guns away. Also, she will fight for women and minorities (not as much for gay rights).
I don't have any guns and don't want one.
As president, she doesn't have the power to overwrite the constitution so I don't think she's going to be taking away anyone's guns.
Gay people already can get married. What rights do gay Americans not have that every other American has?
How are women being oppressed in the United States breh?
Politically, Hillary has shown herself to be as conservative as conservative can get.
On social issues, Hillary has proven herself to be a conservative moderate.
Why is she the #1 candidate in the "liberal" and "progressive" party?
Nick Young
10-16-2015, 12:58 PM
If you include the House in the numbers, in her last term, she was more liberal than 85 percent of all members while Obama was more liberal than 82 percent.
Pro-Patriot act and Pro-Iraqi War under Bush.
All this shows is that Hillary is a follower and votes to follow whoever is in power, no matter what her personal views, or the views of her constituents might be.
thefatmiral
10-17-2015, 12:09 AM
Bernie supporters are acting like this is something new. This is a rerun for the Ron Paul family
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 12:29 AM
Bernie supporters are acting like this is something new. This is a rerun for the Ron Paul family
Yeah, the idea that online polls have any sort of significance.
The internet ain't life folks and the readership of Slate isn't even the internet.
Sorry, Bernie fans: The polls are coming in, and it looks like Clinton won the debate (http://www.vox.com/2015/10/16/9553489/hillary-clinton-debate-won)
the post-debate polls have started coming in.....NBC News/SurveyMonkey, the Huffington Post/YouGov, and Gravis/One America News have all released polls finding that Clinton won the debate by huge margins among Democratic voters who watched it:
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/wDdJkQ_ZhTHbFEU2a8okmvFURoU=/1200x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4169462/Who%20won%20the%20debate.png
Update: A new poll of New Hampshire likely Democratic voters, from Suffolk University and the Boston Globe, was also released Friday, with very similar results. 54 percent thought Clinton won the debate, compared to 24 percent for Sanders. Even worse for Sanders, the poll showed Clinton reclaiming a narrow lead in New Hampshire (she's trailed Sanders in every poll of the state since early August).
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 12:36 AM
The writer at Slate responded to the Bernie Won! graphic. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/14/bernie_won_polls_not_the_debate_hillary_won_the_de bate.html)https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRT5hxwUYAAH1Gm.jpg
Let me start with the polls. As I explained after the first GOP debate when there was a similar difference in opinion between the chattering class and online respondents, instant online polls are informal and unscientific. The results rely on a self-selecting group of respondents with no regard to political affiliation, age, country, or even whether the person doing the responding actually watched the debate. Respondents, meanwhile, don’t have even the slightest motivation to be objective; it’s hard to imagine a Hillary supporter casting an online vote for Bernie or vice versa, regardless of what he or she saw onstage. Like tracking new Twitter followers or Google searches, the online surveys provide an interesting snapshot of the mood of a particular slice of the Internet, but they’re mostly for entertainment (for the reader) and traffic (for the outlet). No one should mistake them for the scientific surveys done by professional pollsters.
I'm pretty sure Ron Paul won a lot of online polls for the same reasons.
Nanners
10-17-2015, 12:40 AM
some might think the pro hilary shenanigans would be limited to tv networks only, but the truth is that the alternate pro hilary view of reality can be found everywhere around us. you can even see it right here in this thread.
shills gonna shill.
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 12:43 AM
I'm pretty sure Ron Paul won a lot of online polls for the same reasons.
I was wrong. Apparently, Ron Paul won every single online poll in both 2008 and 2012.
:roll:
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 12:46 AM
some might think the pro hilary shenanigans would be limited to tv networks only, but the reality is that the pro hilary view of reality can be found everywhere around us. you can even see it right here in this thread. shills gonna shill.
Um, what?
The reality is the first four real polls taken after the debate show that Hillary won. Explain shenanigans.
Nanners
10-17-2015, 12:51 AM
Um, what?
The reality is the first four real polls taken after the debate show that Hillary won. Explain shenanigans.
the shenanigans is that you claim hilary "won" meanwhile virtually every poll taken after the debate shows that sanders "won"
longtime lurker
10-17-2015, 12:53 AM
CNN is fuking pathetic. They wanna be FOX news so bad
DeuceWallaces
10-17-2015, 12:58 AM
the shenanigans is that you claim hilary "won" meanwhile virtually every poll taken after the debate shows that sanders "won"
You're wrong. I think they both did what was needed but meta analysis of democratic voters suggests they think she won.
Via the Huffington Posts meta-analysis (http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tabs_HP_Democratic_Debate_20151015.pdf).
poido123
10-17-2015, 12:59 AM
Vote Trump in and be done with it.
America needs to get tough again. The guy can at least run finances and that is a huge thing in politics.
DeuceWallaces
10-17-2015, 01:04 AM
Vote Trump in and be done with it.
America needs to get tough again. The guy can at least run finances and that is a huge thing in politics.
You're a ****tard.
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 01:04 AM
the shenanigans is that you claim hilary "won" meanwhile virtually every poll taken after the debate shows that sanders "won"
Do you not understand the science of polling? You need to try to achieve a random sample that matches up to the Demographics of US voters or in this case, Democratic voters. Slate magazine readers are not a random sample.
To put it another way, let's say you were polling TV viewers, you would get a different result from the same poll if you advertised only on BET than if you advertised only on Bravo. And both would be different from a poll only advertised on CMT.
I didn't claim Hillary won the debate I pointed to an article with that headline that says that four real polls are showing similar results.
poido123
10-17-2015, 01:10 AM
You're a ****tard.
It's gonna happen.
https://media.giphy.com/media/rzKSHEMN0lVkc/giphy.gif
Deal with it.
poido123
10-17-2015, 01:11 AM
You're a ****tard.
You're always so abrasive.
Not getting laid these days?
Nanners
10-17-2015, 01:18 AM
You're wrong. I think they both did what was needed but meta analysis of democratic voters suggests they think she won.
Via the Huffington Posts meta-analysis (http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tabs_HP_Democratic_Debate_20151015.pdf).
I dont see how your link disproves anything I said
DeuceWallaces
10-17-2015, 01:24 AM
I dont see how your link disproves anything I said
So... you didn't read it? Third slide, winner, meta analysis of poll results, Hillary 1.7:1 over Bernie, but most think both did well. Hence, it directly rebukes your statement in every way.
Nanners
10-17-2015, 01:30 AM
So... you didn't read it? Third slide, winner, meta analysis of poll results, Hillary 1.7:1 over Bernie, but most think both did well. Hence, it directly rebukes your statement in every way.
my good friend kevinnyc would no doubt respond by pointing out that the huffington post is a self selecting sample that is geared toward dumb ass feminists, and is not representitive of america at large.
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 01:31 AM
my good friend kevinnyc would no doubt respond by pointing out that the huffington post is a self selecting sample (geared toward dumb ass feminists) and is not representitive of america at large.
Do you understand the science of polling?
Nanners
10-17-2015, 01:32 AM
Do you understand the science of polling?
do you understand the science of being a lying piece of shit shill?
i think you do, because i have seen your posts on syria
DeuceWallaces
10-17-2015, 01:37 AM
my good friend kevinnyc would no doubt respond by pointing out that the huffington post is a self selecting sample that is geared toward dumb ass feminists, and is not representitive of america at large.
Oh, well I don't bother too much with him, but in my scientific opinion there appears to be no distinct bias in their method. They take everything they can, get from random samples and average them; which is a reasonable approach.
The point, in my opinion, is that no reasonable analyst really declared either a distinct winner or loser. They both did what they needed to do, but given name recognition and the current climate surrounding her candidacy Hillary probably did the most to help herself. Now, a bunch of message board/Facebook 23 year olds won't really get that, but I think that in the greater context of the general election and who will likely be voting, she did herself the most good with Bernie a close second.
If you've never voted and spend all day on the internet trolling political and social issue you probably won't get that, but you seem like a reasonable man so I presume that given the results of an average of several polls you would realize they were both clear winners.
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 01:40 AM
do you understand the science of being a lying piece of shit shill?
i think you do, because i have seen your posts on syria:roll:
I'll take that as a NO.
I thought you were smarter than this here:
some might think the pro hilary shenanigans would be limited to tv networks only, but the reality is that the pro hilary view of reality can be found everywhere around us. you can even see it right here in this thread. shills gonna shill.
It's just a master class in motivated reasoning.
KevinNYC
10-17-2015, 01:44 AM
And yougov does say what their methodology is. It's not Huffington Post readers
[QUOTE]Interviewing Dates October 14 - 15, 2015
Target population U.S. adults, aged 18 and over.
Sampling method Respondents were selected from YouGov’s opt-in Internet panel using sample
matching. A random sample (stratified by age, gender, race, education,
and region) was selected from the 2010 American Community Study. Voter
registration was imputed from the November 2010 Current Population Survey
Registration and Voting Supplement. Religion, minor party identification,
and non-placement on an ideology scale, were imputed from the 2008 Pew
Religion in American Life Survey.
Weighting The sample was weighted using propensity scores based on age, gender,
race, education, voter registration, and non-placement on an ideology scale.
The weights range from 0.123 to 4.12, with a mean of one and a standard
deviation of 0.868.
Number of respondents 1000
Margin of error
Nanners
10-17-2015, 01:52 AM
Oh, well I don't bother too much with him, but in my scientific opinion there appears to be no distinct bias in their method. They take everything they can, get from random samples and average them; which is a reasonable approach.
The point, in my opinion, is that no reasonable analyst really declared either a distinct winner or loser. They both did what they needed to do, but given name recognition and the current climate surrounding her candidacy Hillary probably did the most to help herself. Now, a bunch of message board/Facebook 23 year olds won't really get that, but I think that in the greater context of the general election and who will likely be voting, she did herself the most good with Bernie a close second.
If you've never voted and spend all day on the internet trolling political and social issue you probably won't get that, but you seem like a reasonable man so I presume that given the results of an average of several polls you would realize they were both clear winners.
Well if you want to argue that both of the candidates "won the debate", I dont really have a problem with that. I just think that based on what I saw, Bernie won a lot more than Hilary.
DeuceWallaces
10-17-2015, 01:54 AM
Well if you want to argue that both of the candidates "won the debate", I dont really have a problem with that. I just think that based on what I saw, Bernie won a lot more than Hilary.
Well maybe you should have said that in the first place as opposed to:
virtually every poll taken after the debate shows that sanders "won"
Which is false.
KevinNYC
10-19-2015, 08:16 AM
Another poll says Clinton won the debate. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/index.html) Good news for Bernie too.
Overall, 31% of registered Democrats say they watched all or most of the CNN/Facebook debate, held October 13 in Las Vegas. More than 6-in-10 Democrats who watched say Clinton did the best job, almost doubling the 35% who thought Sanders had the best performance. On the other side of the coin, 43% of those who watched said Chafee had the worst night, 31% thought Webb did, 12% O'Malley.
Bernie's favorability went way up among those who watched the debate. Overall he gained 5 polls from the previous poll going from 24 who have him as the first choice to 29.
Clinton gained 3 points going from 42 to 45 (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/cnn-orc-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democratic-debate/index.html). So her 18 point lead against Bernie went to a 16 point lead.
Right now Carson would have a very slim lead over both Sanders and Clinton. Sanders and Clinton would both beat Trump.
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