Why do people think the Heat will be good?

[CJ Mustard]

For some reason people think they're contenders or something. Mark my words, they will not finish top 4 in the conference. They are a lower seeded Playoff team, if at all tbh. Terrible spacing, an aging star who believes he's still as good as he was in his prime, a headcase at center, an overrated PG who had one great season. On talent, they might make the Playoffs I guess, but as a Bucks fan, I'm not even remotely worried about this team. No way they finish ahead of Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, or Milwaukee. Then there are teams like Toronto, Washington, Indiana, and Boston who will be in the same range as them. Could honestly see any of those teams finishing ahead of them too.

Will definitely bump this thread in several months when I end up being right.

[Levity]

they have much better spacing than MIL, and a more cohesive starting 5. They should be a top 4 team, granted they stay healthy. They really beefed up their bench this off season, as well.

Green will have a surprising year, Winslow will be decent this season, Amare is a nice scoring punch off the pine. but again, it all comes down to health.

[G-train]

Terrible spacing, an aging star who believes he's still as good as he was in his prime, a headcase at center, an overrated PG who had one great season.

Their spacing isn't ideal, but they do have Dragic, Deng, Bosh, Green, McRoberts, Chalmers and Johnson who can shoot.

Wade is still very good when healthy, certainly doesn't have a Kobe complex of taking over 20 shots a game at 37%.

Whiteside is definitely an interesting person, but also a very effective centre. Is he more of a headcase than JR Smith, who will play similar mpg for the apparent ECF Cavs?

Dragic is rated fairly correctly by most, he is a B+to A- quality player.

And you also neglected to mention 10 time allstar Chris Bosh, and the depth on bench of McRoberts, Green, Amare, Chalmers, Winslow, Andersen.

So based on having 5 good to great starters plus bench depth, they will definitely make the playoffs.

The only thing stopping them is ironically the only thing you didn't mention, which is health.

So in summary you don't seem to know much about the Heat.

[bluechox2]

justice league, have flash, wonder woman (bosh)

robin died (Lebran)

[WayOfWade]

For some reason people think they're contenders or something. Mark my words, they will not finish top 4 in the conference. They are a lower seeded Playoff team, if at all tbh. Terrible spacing, an aging star who believes he's still as good as he was in his prime, a headcase at center, an overrated PG who had one great season. On talent, they might make the Playoffs I guess, but as a Bucks fan, I'm not even remotely worried about this team. No way they finish ahead of Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, or Milwaukee. Then there are teams like Toronto, Washington, Indiana, and Boston who will be in the same range as them. Could honestly see any of those teams finishing ahead of them too.

Will definitely bump this thread in several months when I end up being right.
Bookmarked for future reference.

Tbh though, I think us Heat fans are just hoping for a lot at this point. This team could be really good, but everything has to go right. Wade has to be healthy (as does Bosh), Whiteside needs to keep a cool head, Dragic needs to show that he's more than a one-season wonder, Luol Deng needs younger legs, and the bench really needs to perform well whether there are injuries or not, and Spoelstra needs to show that he isn't just a product of LeBron James. What are the odds of all that happening? I'm not a math professor, but I'll tell you they're not too high.
There is a chance though that all of this does work, however small it may be, so I'm going to keep rooting for them seeing as they are the Eastern Conference's only shot at stopping the Cavaliers.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

They'll make it to ecf not on skill of play but only on the weakness of the east,

[JT123]

Because Kobe and Jordan stans are desperate to see one of Lebron's former teams be successful without him, or at least half way decent. In their deluded minds this would prove that Lebron isn't shit and make them feel more secure about the player they stan. Unfortunately it's never going to happen. It's not a coincidence that every team Lebron has left has fallen off a cliff immediately after his departure, while every team he has gone to goes from irrelevant to Championship contender that very season.
Everyone said the Heat would win 50 something games last season too, yet they didn't come close. And before anyone tries to bring up the injury excuse the Heat sucked all year, and were below .500 in the games that Wade and Bosh both played in. This is the sad reality for Bron haters.

[CJ Mustard]

They'll make it to ecf not on skill of play but only on the weakness of the east,
Myth. Teams like Toronto and Atlanta cocksmacked the West last year. Cleveland almost beat GSW without their 2nd and 3rd best players. The Bulls are one of the deepest/most talented teams in the league. The Bucks are probably the top young/up and coming team right now. The Celtics were on a 50 win pace after the all star break last year. The Wizards have maybe the best young backcourt in the league.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Because Kobe and Jordan stans are desperate to see one of Lebron's former teams be successful without him, or at least half way decent. In their deluded minds this would prove that Lebron isn't shit and make them feel more secure about the player they stan. Unfortunately it's never going to happen. It's not a coincidence that every team Lebron has left has fallen off a cliff immediately after his departure, while every team he has gone to goes from irrelevant to Championship contender that very season.
Everyone said the Heat would win 50 something games last season too, yet they didn't come close. And before anyone tries to bring up the injury excuse the Heat sucked all year, and were below .500 in the games that Wade and Bosh both played in. This is the sad reality for Bron haters.

Lebron is an incubus who sucks all the talent and money from any team he goes to. He uses this to garnish himself in fame and power. The Illuminati gave him that power. Lebron is a nwo agent. Ita's no surprise that all of this happens.

But he is still a cramping bitc H

[Lebronxrings]

Because Kobe and Jordan stans are desperate to see one of Lebron's former teams be successful without him, or at least half way decent. In their deluded minds this would prove that Lebron isn't shit and make them feel more secure about the player they stan. Unfortunately it's never going to happen. It's not a coincidence that every team Lebron has left has fallen off a cliff immediately after his departure, while every team he has gone to goes from irrelevant to Championship contender that very season.
Everyone said the Heat would win 50 something games last season too, yet they didn't come close. And before anyone tries to bring up the injury excuse the Heat sucked all year, and were below .500 in the games that Wade and Bosh both played in. This is the sad reality for Bron haters.
agreed. But still ..


No Excuses Heats!

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

agreed. But still ..


No Excuses CAVS!


Cavs have no excuses being that stacked.

[Legends66NBA7]

Toronto will be a bottom 3 team in the conference. Miami is definitely better than them.

[JT123]

Toronto will be a bottom 3 team in the conference. Miami is definitely better than them.
You said the same thing last year

[SpecialQue]

Wait, are we talking good or top 4 team in the east? They definitely have enough good players on their team to be a lock for the playoffs if they can stay healthy. There's no question they can be at least a "good" team. I don't think they can be title contenders, but it's a bit odd to discount the talent on their roster and pretend that they won't be at least good.

[Pushxx]

As far as raw talent goes, they are unquestionably near the top of the league.

If they stay healthy and have chemistry, they will obviously be at least a very good team. Can anybody disagree with that?

[GrapeApe]

Because Kobe and Jordan stans are desperate to see one of Lebron's former teams be successful without him, or at least half way decent. In their deluded minds this would prove that Lebron isn't shit and make them feel more secure about the player they stan. Unfortunately it's never going to happen. It's not a coincidence that every team Lebron has left has fallen off a cliff immediately after his departure, while every team he has gone to goes from irrelevant to Championship contender that very season.
Everyone said the Heat would win 50 something games last season too, yet they didn't come close. And before anyone tries to bring up the injury excuse the Heat sucked all year, and were below .500 in the games that Wade and Bosh both played in. This is the sad reality for Bron haters.

STFU. The Heat had more starting lineups than any team in the league last season. They played exactly 8 games being relatively healthy and went 5-3. Of course they sucked all season, they were decimated with injuries starting from November. Who cares if Wade and Bosh are playing when there's a revolving door of players at every other position on a nightly basis. It's not pick-up ball and it's nearly impossible to have success without some degree of cohesion and continuity. By season's end, half of their rotation players weren't even in the league 6 months earlier.

If healthy, this year's team should be at worst a middle seed playoff team. My main concern is Spo. If he shows some semblance of competence, the Heat will likely be in the 50 win range.

BTW, the Heat made Lebron relevant, not the other way around.

[TheBigVeto]

For some reason people think they're contenders or something. Mark my words, they will not finish top 4 in the conference. They are a lower seeded Playoff team, if at all tbh. Terrible spacing, an aging star who believes he's still as good as he was in his prime, a headcase at center, an overrated PG who had one great season. On talent, they might make the Playoffs I guess, but as a Bucks fan, I'm not even remotely worried about this team. No way they finish ahead of Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, or Milwaukee. Then there are teams like Toronto, Washington, Indiana, and Boston who will be in the same range as them. Could honestly see any of those teams finishing ahead of them too.

Will definitely bump this thread in several months when I end up being right.


We have people here thinking Kobe will be MVP next season and you consider these Heat fans delusional?

[JT123]

STFU. The Heat had more starting lineups than any team in the league last season. They played exactly 8 games being relatively healthy and went 5-3. Of course they sucked all season, they were decimated with injuries starting from November. Who cares if Wade and Bosh are playing when there's a revolving door of players at every other position on a nightly basis. It's not pick-up ball and it's nearly impossible to have success without some degree of cohesion and continuity. By season's end, half of their rotation players weren't even in the league 6 months earlier.

If healthy, this year's team should be at worst a middle seed playoff team. My main concern is Spo. If he shows some semblance of competence, the Heat will likely be in the 50 win range.
I'm pretty sure the Bucks and Celtics had just as many injuries/lineup changes, yet they still made the playoffs. :sleeping
There are no excuses for missing the playoffs in the East. Period.

[DoctorP]

The Heat will struggle with chemistry throughout the year and may have to steal a few games for scant wins early in the season.

[WayOfWade]

The Heat will struggle with chemistry throughout the year and may have to steal a few games for scant wins early in the season.
This could happen. I highly doubt though that they'll struggle throughout the year, maybe through November/December, but not any longer beyond that.

[Smoke117]

Bookmarked for future ownage.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yerp I agree

Only way I see them making noise is if Josh McBob is fully healthy and plays a ton of minutes

Fun fact when Mcroberts was on the Hornets he lead the league in passing and they made th post season. He was traded the following season and the Hornets offense COLLAPSED

Heat need chemistry for their weak attempt in collusion and I dont know if Dragic is the man for the job. He fast breaks way too much his BODY WILL NOT HOLD UP 82 games if he plays as reckless as he did last year.

[JohnnySic]

If they stay healthy they will be a top-4 seed.