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kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 12:46 PM
Salary = 25 Million

when healthy kobe can put up stats reminiscent to kyle lowry

real playing value = 12 million


http://www.asmsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lowry.jpg

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alright we have that settled. in actual solid averages kobe is worth 12 million.



over seas:

but when we factor in market value of kobe around the world. he was offered a 40 million dollar contract and his own stadium to join euroleague. kobes real value is much larger than originally thought


http://idata.over-blog.com/2/57/90/17/mai-2010/Kobe-Bryant2usajpg.jpg

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Coaching:

over the last who knows how long. kobes basically been the coach of the lakers. perhaps the only time when kobes not is when phil is around. but even then kobe did his own thing allot of the time. and when kobes hurt he takes over allot of the coaching duties. the lakers would have to pay kobe 8 million per year for these duties

http://i.imgur.com/XDGrNMu.png

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trainer/mentor:


kobe is always helping guys in practice work on their games. especially with the new guys clarkson, randle, russell... his teachings, advice, leadership are applauded by them. and cherished.. they even put russells locker right beside kobes... a guy like that is worth 5 million.


http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DAngelo-Russell-1.png

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Marketing:



the lakers signed a multi billion dollar tv deal, they make hundreds of millions every year. with or without kobe playing. as long as hes signed the fans buy season tickets thinking he'l be there. that alone is worth 100 million annually, then with jersey sales and other merchandise. its obvious just as a name hes worth way more than his contract



http://cdn.hiphopsince1987.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/reuters_china_kobe_bryant_16Aug12-975x632.jpg

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Kobe Bryants real world salary is 153 million dollars a season


agreed?

sportjames23
10-18-2015, 12:47 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

GIF REACTION
10-18-2015, 12:49 PM
Can i see your sources for these numbers?

Thesmallmamba
10-18-2015, 12:49 PM
Mods ban him

KG215
10-18-2015, 12:52 PM
So another Kobe d***sucking thread where you post a lot of subjective information and heavily biased opinion and expect us to take it as indisputable fact.

Good shit.

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 12:53 PM
So another Kobe d***sucking thread where you post a lot of subjective information and heavily biased opinion and expect us to take it as indisputable fact.

Good shit.

you act as if i'm wrong about any of this


try arguing a single point i made... if anything i went light on the market value quota

lakers probably make 200+ mill off kobes name every year... i thought kobe should atleast get half of that back

FKAri
10-18-2015, 12:53 PM
Can i see your sources for these numbers?

He'd get banned for posting nudity.

TrueBlue89
10-18-2015, 12:57 PM
OP's hilarious. I actually admire the dedication.

KG215
10-18-2015, 12:58 PM
you act as if i'm wrong about any of this


try arguing a single point i made... if anything i went light on the market value quota

lakers probably make 200+ mill off kobes name every year... i thought kobe should atleast get half of that back
Ok, how about the totally made up, bullshit $8M figure you came up with for Kobe's "coaching" responsibilities?

You're not basing any of the information in your explanation on anything other than speculation and biased thoughts. Then you somehow pull $8M out of your ass for how much he deserves for this? Go suck Kobe's dick on some other message board. Or, better yet, start your own blog where you suck off Kobe.

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 01:11 PM
Ok, how about the totally made up, bullshit $8M figure you came up with for Kobe's "coaching" responsibilities?

You're not basing any of the information in your explanation on anything other than speculation and biased thoughts. Then you somehow pull $8M out of your ass for how much he deserves for this? Go suck Kobe's dick on some other message board. Or, better yet, start your own blog where you suck off Kobe.



lets use actual common sense here for a minute. when kobes on the floor. he does his own damn thing out there. and when hes on the bench. he coaches players all the time.

http://images.sportsworldreport.com/data/images/full/39486/kobe-bryant-24-of-the-los-angeles-lakers.jpg?w=640


http://41.media.tumblr.com/1836e31812a8b5983b8326f5bb1dfef2/tumblr_nt3qbrLJFd1ql9rndo1_1280.jpg


https://nbathroughmyveins.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/kobe-coaching.png





i would argue that new guys in the nba take kobes advice more seriously than they do with byrons


i know if i was on the lakers. if kobe speaks. you listen... byron scott hasnt proven sh*t as a leader in his entire life

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 01:19 PM
its quite obvious guys like kobe, lebron, tiger, brady and other big name guys are underpaid


if floyd mayweather can make 150 million in 1 night.

then i'm sure those other guys can make 150 million in 1 year

Thesmallmamba
10-18-2015, 01:20 PM
Can't wait till Vanessa divorces his ass and takes half his money with her :applause:


Would be poetic justice for 2003

Bankaii
10-18-2015, 01:31 PM
The amount of bullshit in the OP. Every single post was a dick sucking lie.

In particular, Coach Pop makes 6 mil a year but somehow Kobe should get 8 mil for "coaching" players to be his ball boys and passing machines.:roll:

sportjames23
10-18-2015, 01:37 PM
He'd get banned for posting nudity.


Oh shit. :oldlol:

coin24
10-18-2015, 01:42 PM
I think you're selling lawd mamba short OP he's worth much more than that:bowdown: :bowdown:

!@#$%Vectors!@#
10-18-2015, 01:42 PM
I think you're selling lawd mamba short OP he's worth much more than that:bowdown: :bowdown:
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 01:42 PM
The amount of bullshit in the OP. Every single post was a dick sucking lie.

In particular, Coach Pop makes 6 mil a year but somehow Kobe should get 8 mil for "coaching" players to be his ball boys and passing machines.:roll:


the spurs organization is notorious for underpaying their employees


pop is worth 20 mill as a coach to be quite honest

aj1987
10-18-2015, 01:43 PM
Considering the fact that Kobe is set to make ~$2M more than LeBron next season, I'd say that he's overpaid by $23M.

bluechox2
10-18-2015, 01:47 PM
Lakers better offer him that next summer

dhsilv
10-18-2015, 01:47 PM
the spurs organization is notorious for underpaying their employees


pop is worth 20 mill as a coach to be quite honest

Oh please provide the mathematics that you used to reach that. I'm also interested in how you came to 5 million a year to be a personal trainer (who doesn't personal train). Just post your excel file if you don't want to explain how you created comps, priced wins above replacement, etc.

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 01:47 PM
Considering the fact that Kobe is set to make ~$2M more than LeBron next season, I'd say that he's overpaid by $23M.


lebron deserves nearly 150 mill too though


hes not quite as good at coaching as kobe is. and he didnt quite bring as much in terms of revenue from world wide merchandising, tv contracts.... but hes worth a sh*t ton more than he can theoretically make regardless



and its nobodies fault but lebrons for not making 30-35 mill a season yet


he stunted the growth of his contract TWICE by bailing on a cleveland and miami



he took pay cuts both times to ring chase,collude. thats all on him

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 01:49 PM
Oh please provide the mathematics that you used to reach that. I'm also interested in how you came to 5 million a year to be a personal trainer (who doesn't personal train). Just post your excel file if you don't want to explain how you created comps, priced wins above replacement, etc.


heres the mathematics


pop is 4 times the coach anyone else is


and kobes atleast a better coach than fisher is... who makes 5 mill.. if he makes 5. kobes worth 8

dhsilv
10-18-2015, 02:22 PM
heres the mathematics


pop is 4 times the coach anyone else is


and kobes atleast a better coach than fisher is... who makes 5 mill.. if he makes 5. kobes worth 8

That's not how pricing works. There's a baseline assumption in value add by anyone competent to be a coach. From there you'd need to look at the marginal value of additional wins from a financial perspective for the team. Now at that point you'd need to figure out what the pricing curve should look like as additional utility is added. From there you can factor in marketing and other items, but it seems you stripped that value out and priced it separately for Kobe.

aj1987
10-18-2015, 02:24 PM
lebron deserves nearly 150 mill too though


hes not quite as good at coaching as kobe is. and he didnt quite bring as much in terms of revenue from world wide merchandising, tv contracts.... but hes worth a sh*t ton more than he can theoretically make regardless



and its nobodies fault but lebrons for not making 30-35 mill a season yet


he stunted the growth of his contract TWICE by bailing on a cleveland and miami



he took pay cuts both times to ring chase,collude. thats all on him
He doesn't. He probably "deserves" ~$35M and that's about it. He still makes over $50M a year in endorsements.

ISHGoat
10-18-2015, 02:31 PM
What the actual ****.

OP just went to another level

LBJFTW
10-18-2015, 03:02 PM
OP's hilarious. I actually admire the dedication.

Ken has been making Letrard stans cry themselves to sleep for years. This is nothing new.

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 03:06 PM
He doesn't. He probably "deserves" ~$35M and that's about it. He still makes over $50M a year in endorsements.


floyd mayweather makes 150 million per fight.


and you think lebron is worth 35 million per year

:oldlol:




i mean i know pay per view boxing is different. it costs nearly 100$ per fight



but with league pass and tv subscriptions. i guarantee each home viewer is contributing more than that on a yearly basis in order to watch their favourite player


premium league pass up here is 164$ a year


and if a guy buys league pass. 8 times out of 10 its to watch either kobe or lebron.



the lakers signed a multi billion dollar tv deal. the nba signed a multi billion dollar tv deal...

and all this money is mainly due to its top stars


yet they get peanuts back in return

HOoopCityJones
10-18-2015, 03:12 PM
You're underestimating the value on tickets sales alone.

aj1987
10-18-2015, 03:46 PM
floyd mayweather makes 150 million per fight.

and you think lebron is worth 35 million per year

:oldlol:

i mean i know pay per view boxing is different. it costs nearly 100$ per fight

but with league pass and tv subscriptions. i guarantee each home viewer is contributing more than that on a yearly basis in order to watch their favourite player

premium league pass up here is 164$ a year

and if a guy buys league pass. 8 times out of 10 its to watch either kobe or lebron.

the lakers signed a multi billion dollar tv deal. the nba signed a multi billion dollar tv deal...

and all this money is mainly due to its top stars

yet they get peanuts back in return
:biggums:

Boxing - 2 athletes and 1 fight
Basketball - ~15 athletes and 82 games per team

Boxing doesn't have a salary cap. Basketball does.

Serious question before I waste my time typing up a longer reply: did you graduate form HS?

kennethgriffin
10-18-2015, 03:51 PM
:biggums:

Boxing - 2 athletes and 1 fight
Basketball - ~15 athletes and 82 games per team

Boxing doesn't have a salary cap. Basketball does.

Serious question before I waste my time typing up a longer reply: did you graduate form HS?


you act as if 90% of the nbas revinue isnt directly related to its stars




sh*t.. just take kobe and lebron away and the NBAs stock would drop 500%


then if you took away curry, durant, harden, westbrook, paul... the NBA would be bankrupt within a matter of weeks


the nba would lose 95% of its viewers


considering 25 teams lose money. and the 5 that actually turn a profit are ones that host a top tier name more often than not

the only ones that would survive regardless are chicago, LA and new york







in the end.... its obvious the leagues average salary for every non superstar should be around 100k.


guys you wouldnt even recognize on the street making 10 mill+ is just ludicrous

LBJFTW
10-18-2015, 04:58 PM
sh*t.. just take kobe and lebron away and the NBAs stock would drop 500%

This.

Just look at what happened when Jordan stopped playing. The NBA lost half it's fan base.

aj1987
10-18-2015, 05:18 PM
you act as if 90% of the nbas revinue isnt directly related to its stars

sh*t.. just take kobe and lebron away and the NBAs stock would drop 500%

then if you took away curry, durant, harden, westbrook, paul... the NBA would be bankrupt within a matter of weeks

the nba would lose 95% of its viewers

considering 25 teams lose money. and the 5 that actually turn a profit are ones that host a top tier name more often than not

the only ones that would survive regardless are chicago, LA and new york

in the end.... its obvious the leagues average salary for every non superstar should be around 100k.

guys you wouldnt even recognize on the street making 10 mill+ is just ludicrous
You didn't answer my question.

I<3NBA
10-19-2015, 01:57 AM
in the world?

:yaohappy:

Goro
10-19-2015, 02:51 AM
https://nbathroughmyveins.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/kobe-coaching.png





Was this when Kobe was teaching Bynum 3-point shot selection?