LOL @ Saudi Arabia

[Akrazotile]

I knew these nikkas had oil money, but who knew their GDP per capita was comparable to the US and Norway?? Higher than Germany and Japan!?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_Per_Capita_in_2014.svg/400px-Countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_Per_Capita_in_2014.svg. png


Interesting how much pressure there is on Euro nations to take in migrants when there are bountiful nations right there in these 'refugees' own backyards. Obviously, these oil-rich Arab nations probably don't dole out the same kind of welfare guilt-offerings that Euro nations do. I'm not that familiar with Saudi Arabia economic policy but suffice it to say life for an unskilled foreigner is not nearly as cushy there as it would be in Switzerland.

Of of course, many of the business and political interests in these European countries want this influx of cheap labor, to help replenish aging populations with low birth rates, and to keep the economy churning and the wages low.

The problem is, Muslims in Africa and the Middle East are already rapidly out-reproducing people in the first world. Now these first world countries are not only going to let it happen outside their borders, but INSIDE their borders? We don't even need to get into what this means socially and politically for the global future (though it's not good) but think about what this means for the planet. The human population is fukking up the Earth. It's the primary cause of any human-induced global warming that does exist. It's depleting the ocean of fish, and the rainforest of trees. It's eliminating delicate species and ecosystems that took millions of years to evolve.

And for what?

More of this:

http://s10.postimg.org/bhovpr8cp/01_mediterranean_crisis_davide_monteleone_jpg_qu.j pg


The most important issue facing humanity right now is the impending population crisis. The most important thing we could do, is figure out a way to temper population growth in Africa and the Middle East. Period.

IF YOU ARE NOT A CUCK, you can see this clear as day. The media WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THIS, because in a capitalist society, they have to do what's popular instead of right. This is WHY businesses and politicians will not risk offending anyone, and WHY they harp so persisntently on diversity and tolerance. Because it's good for THEIR BOTTOM LINE. And the funny thing is? Just the way liberals think religious people are simply indocrinated into illogical belief systems by being brought up into it, and taught it, and exposed to it, that's EXACTLY what average beta cucks like deuce wallace, and donks, and etc, and all the liberal zealots out there do as well. The media and public figures REINFORCE the concept of far left liberal tolerance and political correctness with praise, and CHASTISE opposition to it, because again, for THEM it's about the bottom line. Ofc, they don't frame it in that context. And the try-hard liberal left, TAKES THEIR CUE from these positions, and develops their own soap-box culture of cheering on tolerance and taking down the rich white man establishment.

It's unreal how blind and easily manipulated the average citizenry is.

[ISHGoat]

I knew these nikkas had oil money, but who knew their GDP per capita was comparable to the US and Norway?? Higher than Germany and Japan!?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_Per_Capita_in_2014.svg/400px-Countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_Per_Capita_in_2014.svg. png


Interesting how much pressure there is on Euro nations to take in migrants when there are bountiful nations right there in these 'refugees' own backyards. Obviously, these oil-rich Arab nations probably don't dole out the same kind of welfare guilt-offerings that Euro nations do. I'm not that familiar with Saudi Arabia economic policy but suffice it to say life for an unskilled foreigner is not nearly as cushy there as it would be in Switzerland.

Of of course, many of the business and political interests in these European countries want this influx of cheap labor, to help replenish aging populations with low birth rates, and to keep the economy churning and the wages low.

The problem is, Muslims in Africa and the Middle East are already rapidly out-reproducing people in the first world. Now these first world countries are not only going to let it happen outside their borders, but INSIDE their borders? We don't even need to get into what this means socially and politically for the global future (though it's not good) but think about what this means for the planet. The human population is fukking up the Earth. It's the primary cause of any human-induced global warming that does exist. It's depleting the ocean of fish, and the rainforest of trees. It's eliminating delicate species and ecosystems that took millions of years to evolve.

And for what?

More of this:

http://postimg.org/image/41pm3ykn9/


The most important issue facing humanity right now is the impending population crisis. The most important thing we could do, is figure out a way to temper population growth in Africa and the Middle East. Period.

IF YOU ARE NOT A CUCK, you can see this clear as day. The media WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THIS, because in a capitalist society, they have to do what's popular instead of right. This is WHY businesses and politicians will not risk offending anyone, and WHY they harp so persisntently on diversity and tolerance. Because it's good for THEIR BOTTOM LINE. And the funny thing is? Just the way liberals thing religious people are indocrinated into the systems by being brought up into it, and taught it, and exposed to it, that's EXACTLY what average beta cucks like deuce wallace, and donks, and etc, and all the liberal zealots out there do as well. The media and public figures REINFORCE the concept of far left liberal tolerance and political correctness with praise, and CHASTISE opposition to it, because again, for THEM it's about the bottom line. Ofc, they don't frame it in that context. And the try-hard liberal left, TAKES THEIR CUE from these positions

brilliant post

world needs more of you and less of kevincuck

[fiddy]

They are too busy buying golden lambos. Poor saudis.

[Akrazotile]

Bump

[Thesmallmamba]

Saudi Arabias GDP per capita is like 25k significantly lower than 50k+ of USA and Norway

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Dunno bout you Chris but i'm purdy sure that

Based on reading the Scriptures of the Abrahamic faiths,

with stories of Babylon and Sodom and the works as imminent lessons
a) this is God's plan to repopulate the world with people and all you've been doing is diagnosing tertiary and quarternary symptoms. America is destroying itself (liberals being the RESPONSIVE AGENTS of destruction and NOT the primary power), Europe is destroying itself (disobeyed God through its debauchery and modern materialism... LOWERED BIRTHRATES replaced by a immigration), Russia is growing and strong (traditional orthodox Christians), Turkey is growing, Israel is growing (traditional Judaism), and the Muslim World are on the Rise, parts of Africa are booming or close to it quite soon?


How would you feel about a Doctor, that say, understands a patient has terminal cancer and they can't do anything about it and all of a sudden you zone in on a small detail i.e. the reduction of leukocytes and he applauds himself on the back for zoning in on an issue because... others are too afraid to tackle it :oldlol:

You wouldn't respect him very much now would you. His main driver is Ego and sticking out as a unique voice in a crowd of hundreds, moreso than a potent determined competence to cure the ailment, isn't it?

Based on the (admittedly) little knowledge of the Earth, Architecture,
b) the energy/resources/consumption it takes to construct a mansion/automobiles/employment buildings and to sponsor the lifestyle of an upper class person is substantially higher than potentially several of those guys from Africa/Middle East who live substantially more simple and frugal. The religion they were indoctrinated in so happens to be very anti-materialistic to bout. One of their mottos is "be like a bee, everything it touches becomes sweeter, every branch it lands on doesn't break"
Wouldn't your attention be served in advocating things like green LED buildings in the infrastructure of your community, reduced water consumption per capita, local power plants and brownstone sites, factories effects on air pollution, curbed foods on an obese populace etc. etc.

just saying

oh and why are you taking stabs at Deuce and Ridonks? They want the world to be a cleaner, greener place too you know.. only they start with their own backyard rather than Cairo.... Deuce hustled and worked his ass off for a chance to serve and protect the forests of Michigan and here you are berating him and doing little yourself?

What the hell is going on with you dude..... You're (potentially) so much better than this

[poido123]

Great post OP :applause:


@ Jefferson money, what you are suggesting is simply a bandaid solution whereas population control has immediate benefits. You mentioned these people spend less and are more frugal. What total bullshit! The more an Arab of African has the more he spends, just like anyone else in this world. Do we need more evidence than rich Saudis buying fast cars? Or rich Africans blowing money on jewellery?


If the world could think like OP, there would be no stupid pandering to people who demand everything and give very little.

[Nick Young]

Great post OP :applause:


@ Jefferson money, what you are suggesting is simply a bandaid solution whereas population control has immediate benefits. You mentioned these people spend less and are more frugal. What total bullshit! The more an Arab of African has the more he spends, just like anyone else in this world. Do we need more evidence than rich Saudis buying fast cars? Or rich Africans blowing money on jewellery?


If the world could think like OP, there would be no stupid pandering to people who demand everything and give very little.

I'm looking at you Muslims! What do you do for western countries you inhabit other than demand welfare and takeover laws and customs?
In the UK they open awesome doner restaurants and make good food and also 99 pence stores. Some are also doctors, lawyers and engineers. Others find retail or food service jobs.

Not everyone wants to take over laws and customs. many want to adapt to British culture.

[poido123]

In the UK they open awesome doner restaurants and make good food and also 99 pence stores. Some are also doctors, lawyers and engineers. Others find retail or food service jobs.

Not everyone wants to take over laws and customs. many want to adapt to British culture.


When I refer to Muslims I refer to fundamentalist Muslims

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

When I refer to Muslims I refer to fundamentalist Muslims

Fundamentalist Muslims are on welfare?? Really? Shame on them if true.

And they're supposed to perceive contributing labor as an action that is another form of worship... The same principle as the Puritans work ethics.

[fiddy]

Dunno bout you Chris but i'm purdy sure that

Based on reading the Scriptures of the Abrahamic faiths,

with stories of Babylon and Sodom and the works as imminent lessons
a) this is God's plan to repopulate the world with people and all you've been doing is diagnosing tertiary and quarternary symptoms. America is destroying itself (liberals being the RESPONSIVE AGENTS of destruction and NOT the primary power), Europe is destroying itself (disobeyed God through its debauchery and modern materialism... LOWERED BIRTHRATES replaced by a immigration), Russia is growing and strong (traditional orthodox Christians), Turkey is growing, Israel is growing (traditional Judaism), and the Muslim World are on the Rise, parts of Africa are booming or close to it quite soon?


How would you feel about a Doctor, that say, understands a patient has terminal cancer and they can't do anything about it and all of a sudden you zone in on a small detail i.e. the reduction of leukocytes and he applauds himself on the back for zoning in on an issue because... others are too afraid to tackle it :oldlol:

You wouldn't respect him very much now would you. His main driver is Ego and sticking out as a unique voice in a crowd of hundreds, moreso than a potent determined competence to cure the ailment, isn't it?

Based on the (admittedly) little knowledge of the Earth, Architecture,
b) the energy/resources/consumption it takes to construct a mansion/automobiles/employment buildings and to sponsor the lifestyle of an upper class person is substantially higher than potentially several of those guys from Africa/Middle East who live substantially more simple and frugal. The religion they were indoctrinated in so happens to be very anti-materialistic to bout. One of their mottos is "be like a bee, everything it touches becomes sweeter, every branch it lands on doesn't break"
Wouldn't your attention be served in advocating things like green LED buildings in the infrastructure of your community, reduced water consumption per capita, local power plants and brownstone sites, factories effects on air pollution, curbed foods on an obese populace etc. etc.

just saying

oh and why are you taking stabs at Deuce and Ridonks? They want the world to be a cleaner, greener place too you know.. only they start with their own backyard rather than Cairo.... Deuce hustled and worked his ass off for a chance to serve and protect the forests of Michigan and here you are berating him and doing little yourself?

What the hell is going on with you dude..... You're (potentially) so much better than this

Religious nut case :facepalm

[Nick Young]

When I refer to Muslims I refer to fundamentalist Muslims
lots of those guys give lots of money to charity. Not all of them are hate preachers, most of them simply promote leading disciplined, old school lives.

[Akrazotile]

lots of those guys give lots of money to charity. Not all of them are hate preachers, most of them simply promote leading disciplined, old school lives.

Honestly, it doesn't really matter. There's too many people on the planet. Whose future lineage would you rather have tempered - westerners or fundamentalist muslims?

I'm of course not advocating the taking of any existing lives - but the western world needs to use either the carrot or the stick to stop the dramatic multiplication of these people. Not ONLY for the future geopolitical balance of power, but simply for the sustainability of the friggin planet.

[Akrazotile]

s
Based on the (admittedly) little knowledge of the Earth, Architecture,
b) the energy/resources/consumption it takes to construct a mansion/automobiles/employment buildings and to sponsor the lifestyle of an upper class person is substantially higher than potentially several of those guys from Africa/Middle East who live substantially more simple and frugal. The religion they were indoctrinated in so happens to be very anti-materialistic to bout. One of their mottos is "be like a bee, everything it touches becomes sweeter, every branch it lands on doesn't break"
Wouldn't your attention be served in advocating things like green LED buildings in the infrastructure of your community, reduced water consumption per capita, local power plants and brownstone sites, factories effects on air pollution, curbed foods on an obese populace etc. etc.




To this point, yes we do need to reduce western materialism. And we can (hopefully) do that, but we as westerners and the planet in general would still be better off going forward if population trends in the developing world went backward rather than surged ahead.

They arent mutually exclusive. We need to reduce developing-world populations AND developed-world consumerism.

[poido123]

lots of those guys give lots of money to charity. Not all of them are hate preachers, most of them simply promote leading disciplined, old school lives.



You mean, embezzle money into "charities" like CAIR, the muslim brotherhood and terror organisations? Halal is a good example of how they extract that money.


Fundamentalist muslims are full of either hate preachers or soldiers of Islam. If they are interpreting their holy book word for word(the fundamentalists), then they are a real problem.

[poido123]

Fundamentalist Muslims are on welfare?? Really? Shame on them if true.

And they're supposed to perceive contributing labor as an action that is another form of worship... The same principle as the Puritans work ethics.


Absolutely.

Also manipulating western laws so that they can legally claim multiple pensions based on having more than one recognised family under Islam.

[poido123]

To this point, yes we do need to reduce western materialism. And we can (hopefully) do that, but we as westerners and the planet in general would still be better off going forward if population trends in the developing world went backward rather than surged ahead.

They arent mutually exclusive. We need to reduce developing-world populations AND developed-world consumerism.



And how do we control that?


Africans aren't going to stop breeding(little use of birth control, poor living standards) and nor are the Muslims who are breeding in Western countries as a takeover.


The world is slowly disappearing. It will be unliveable for westerners in less than 200 years.

[BoutPractice]

The Saudi mafia is without question one of the most evil criminal organizations in the world right now.

As for your point about population control, prophecies of doom are as overblown today as they were in the time of Malthus.

Human population will eventually self-regulate. The idea that it's going to keep growing at this rate ad infinitum is a classic fallacy... This is like saying that because my business doubled in size this year, it will be larger than the entire world economy in n years time.

Look what happened in the West: as economies and health outcomes improved, people stopped making so many children. In fact, many developed countries struggle to maintain their population level. Some are even seeing their population decrease.

Also, we have no clue what population level would be the true breaking point. I'm sure most of our ancestors wouldn't have believed we could survive with 7 billion people, and yet we are much better at it than they were.

You will no doubt ask: what if the population doesn't self-regulate through economic development? Well, it still will self-regulate in the end... through various catastrophes, whether man made or accidental. Population control by advance design, meanwhile, is simply an unnecessary totalitarian project that encourages murder. Dictators love to think there are too many people out there... allows them to commit genocide against those they don't like.

At any rate, the whole idea that population growth threatens the human race is taking the problem of survival backwards. What is the very worst thing that could happen to us? Extinction. What is extinction? The absence of human population.

[KevinNYC]

Saudi Arabias GDP per capita is like 25k significantly lower than 50k+ of USA and Norway

There's two ways people compare countries by GDP. The first is the 25K you mention.

The second is based on Purchasing power parity which basically says that 25K in Saudia Arabia goes about twice as than in the US.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

[RidonKs]

The Saudi mafia is without question one of the most evil criminal organizations in the world right now.

As for your point about population control, prophecies of doom are as overblown today as they were in the time of Malthus.

Human population will eventually self-regulate. The idea that it's going to keep growing at this rate ad infinitum is a classic fallacy... This is like saying that because my business doubled in size this year, it will be larger than the entire world economy in n years time.

Look what happened in the West: as economies and health outcomes improved, people stopped making so many children. In fact, many developed countries struggle to maintain their population level. Some are even seeing their population decrease.

Also, we have no clue what population level would be the true breaking point. I'm sure most of our ancestors wouldn't have believed we could survive with 7 billion people, and yet we are much better at it than they were.

You will no doubt ask: what if the population doesn't self-regulate through economic development? Well, it still will self-regulate in the end... through various catastrophes, whether man made or accidental. Population control by advance design, meanwhile, is simply an unnecessary totalitarian project that encourages murder. Dictators love to think there are too many people out there... allows them to commit genocide against those they don't like.

At any rate, the whole idea that population growth threatens the human race is taking the problem of survival backwards. What is the very worst thing that could happen to us? Extinction. What is extinction? The absence of human population.
to play devil's advocate, suppose this man-made catastrophe that will naturally contain population growth is actually avoidable... presuming we do as op suggests and take draconian measures now to strategically control the population how we see fit. we ought to avoid as many 'self correcting mechanisms' as possible since they are necessarily the outcome of excess on our own volition.

but to your last point... there is really no response, besides from a misanthrope

[poido123]

to play devil's advocate, suppose this man-made catastrophe that will naturally contain population growth is actually avoidable... presuming we do as op suggests and take draconian measures now to strategically control the population how we see fit. we ought to avoid as many 'self correcting mechanisms' as possible since they are necessarily the outcome of excess on our own volition.

but to your last point... there is really no response, besides from a misanthrope


The way the world is controlled and is heading, it is already fcked and there's nothing to be done now. It's too late.


Greed, money, evil has now taken over and population growth from troubled regions will only suck the life out of the free world.


I suspect a war will happen, probably religious civil wars to start with then eventually spill into the world war.

[Dresta]

Dunno bout you Chris but i'm purdy sure that

Based on reading the Scriptures of the Abrahamic faiths,

with stories of Babylon and Sodom and the works as imminent lessons
a) this is God's plan to repopulate the world with people and all you've been doing is diagnosing tertiary and quarternary symptoms. America is destroying itself (liberals being the RESPONSIVE AGENTS of destruction and NOT the primary power), Europe is destroying itself (disobeyed God through its debauchery and modern materialism... LOWERED BIRTHRATES replaced by a immigration), Russia is growing and strong (traditional orthodox Christians), Turkey is growing, Israel is growing (traditional Judaism), and the Muslim World are on the Rise, parts of Africa are booming or close to it quite soon?



Indeed. It's also interesting that Westerners are so sunk in decadence that they massacre their unborn and destroy the stability of the married family in their own countries, while welcoming in legions of immigrants (often with strong family and tribal structures) in the hope that this will magically correct the imbalance, without having more significant consequences. A people and culture without confidence or vigour welcoming those filled with these things into their own lands can only spell cultural suicide. The native culture of Western European states is already dying - already all that is left is a remnant.


And yeah, it's absurd for Europe to accept a load of migrants with untraceable histories into their borders, when the arab states in the region are doing so little (despite doing so much to escalate the Syrian conflict).

[Akrazotile]

The Saudi mafia is without question one of the most evil criminal organizations in the world right now.

As for your point about population control, prophecies of doom are as overblown today as they were in the time of Malthus.

Human population will eventually self-regulate. The idea that it's going to keep growing at this rate ad infinitum is a classic fallacy... This is like saying that because my business doubled in size this year, it will be larger than the entire world economy in n years time.

Look what happened in the West: as economies and health outcomes improved, people stopped making so many children. In fact, many developed countries struggle to maintain their population level. Some are even seeing their population decrease.

Also, we have no clue what population level would be the true breaking point. I'm sure most of our ancestors wouldn't have believed we could survive with 7 billion people, and yet we are much better at it than they were.

You will no doubt ask: what if the population doesn't self-regulate through economic development? Well, it still will self-regulate in the end... through various catastrophes, whether man made or accidental. Population control by advance design, meanwhile, is simply an unnecessary totalitarian project that encourages murder. Dictators love to think there are too many people out there... allows them to commit genocide against those they don't like.

At any rate, the whole idea that population growth threatens the human race is taking the problem of survival backwards. What is the very worst thing that could happen to us? Extinction. What is extinction? The absence of human population.


Dude.

I'm not suggesting the population crisis threatens the existence of humanity. I'm saying it threatens the quality of the PLANET. It has done, and will do irreversible damage to the natural environment well before sorting itself out. There are serious problems with overfishing currently. Rain forest habitats of entire species such as orangutangs are being wiped out to clear farm land to make palm oil, to supply the worlds population with a ton of manufactured food proucts.

The Earth is such a unique and harmonious planet, itd be a shame to continue fukking it up permanently just so that can keep adding humans by the billions. Because population figures will still continue rising from the current 7-8 billion (which is already damaging enough) before they start going back.

[Dresta]

Tbh, population would effectively self-regulated if we hadn't imported all our modern conveniences to people who, in their mores and ways of life, simply aren't ready for them. These population explosions fit with our spreading of culture and technology to peoples who haven't learnt to live in the ways that allow the creation of such things. Hence there is no natural check on the insane growth of their populations. It's the idea of worldwide humanitarianism, that in attempting to lesson the problems of the present in these places, create a horde of unintended consequences down the line.

Nothing is ever so simple as 'we need to help da poor' - because enabling the survival and proliferation of impoverished people only breeds further poverty (which is why these nations are siphoning away their excess into Western nations who do have their populations somewhat under control).