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HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 03:31 PM
Since ya worship numbers and efficiency so much.

Amongst the Top 10 Picks...

PER

1) Karl-Anthony Towns...25.0
2) D'Angelo Russell........19.4
3) Stanley Johnson........17.9
4) Willie Cauley-Stein.....16.0
5) Mario Hezonja...........13.4
6) Kristaps Porzingis.......12.8
7) Frank Kaminsky..........12.7
8) Emmanuel Mudiay.......11.5
9) Justise Winslow...........11.1
10) Jahlil Okafor................5.2

Offensive Rating

1) Willie Cauley-Stein.......122.1
2) D'Angelo Russell..........109.3
3) Karl-Anthony Towns.....109.1
4) Stanley Johnson..........100.9
4) Justise Winslow.............92.2
5) Mario Hezonja...............91.3
9) Frank Kaminsky.............86.6
8) Emmanuel Mudiay.........84.3
9) Kristaps Porzingis..........84.1
10) Jahlil Okafor................73.3

Usage Rate

1) Jahlil Okafor.................32.4%
2) Emmanuel Mudiay.........30.6%
3) Stanley Johnson............24.6%
4) Kristaps Porzingis..........24.5%
5) Mario Hezonja...............23.5%
6) Karl-Anthony Towns.......23.2%
7) Frank Kaminsky.............22.2%
8) D'Angelo Russell............19.8%
9) Justise Winslow.............14.3%
10) Willie Cauley-Stein.......10.6%

True Shooting %

1) Karl-Anthony Towns.....59.4%
2) Willie Cauley-Stein.......53.7%
3) Mario Hezonja.............53.4%
4) D'Angelo Russell..........51.4%
5) Stanley Johnson...........50.7%
6) Emmanuel Mudiay........45.8%
T-7) Jahlil Okafor..............44.5%
T-7) Frank Kaminsky.........44.5%
9) Kristaps Porzingis.........40.9%
10) Justise Winslow..........40.0%

Rebounding Percentage

1) Karl-Anthony Towns.....18.5%
2) Frank Kaminsky...........15.9%
3) Willie Cauley-Stein.......14.5%
4) Kristaps Porzingis........14.2%
5) Justise Winslow...........10.7%
6) Jahlil Okafor................10.2%
7) Stanley Johnson............9.9%
8) D'Angelo Russell...........9.0%
9) Mario Hezonja..............6.3%
10) Emmanuel Mudiay.......5.3%

Assist Percentage

1) D'Angelo Russell..........33.5%
2) Emmanuel Mudiay........29.8%
3) Justise Winslow............22.3%
4) Stanley Johnson...........13.8%
5) Kristaps Porzingis.........12.9%
6) Frank Kaminsky............12.6%
7) Mario Hezonja...............8.2%
8) Jahlil Okafor..................8.1%
9) Karl-Anthony Towns.......6.9%
10) Willie Cauley-Stein.......0.0%

Turnover Percentage

1) Willie Cauley-Stein.........5.8%
2) Stanley Johnson...........13.9%
T-3) Justise Winslow..........15.7%
T-3) Kristaps Porzingis.......15.7%
5) D'Angelo Russell...........16.3%
T-6) Karl-Anthony Towns....17.0%
T-6) Frank Kaminsky.........17.0%
8) Mario Hezonja..............20.3%
9) Jahlil Okafor.................22.4%
10) Emmanuel Mudiay.......22.7%



via GoldenThroat


Russell. :bowdown:

Levity
10-20-2015, 03:33 PM
haha get ready for everyone on ISH to suddenly use the "eye test" as their talent evaluating bible for this thread

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 03:34 PM
haha get ready for everyone on ISH to suddenly use the "eye test" as their talent evaluating bible for this thread

"Jus wait on it"

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/2014-10/24/14/enhanced/webdr01/anigif_enhanced-12210-1414176595-1.gif

Thesmallmamba
10-20-2015, 03:39 PM
eye test > stats

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 03:44 PM
Have one for the Summer League too?

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 03:52 PM
Have one for the Summer League too?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mabn5fWraj1qg2l1n.gif

Real Men Wear Green
10-20-2015, 03:54 PM
Is this for preseason, summer league, or last year in college? Whichever it's for Okafor needs to be good. We just can't have Philly in the lottery any more. They're turning into what the Clippers used to be.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 03:59 PM
Is this for preseason, summer league, or last year in college? Whichever it's for Okafor needs to be good. We just can't have Philly in the lottery any more. They're turning into what the Clippers used to be.

I believe it's preseason, including last nights game I think.

Solidape
10-20-2015, 04:00 PM
I believe it's preseason, including last nights game I think.

Hope its true....but gotta ask...whats the source?

Solidape
10-20-2015, 04:21 PM
Hope its true....but gotta ask...whats the source?

shameless bump

ISHGoat
10-20-2015, 04:30 PM
Source: his ass

ralph_i_el
10-20-2015, 06:23 PM
Advanced metrics from college, europe, and china do not matter AT ALL.

The quality of opponent varies too much.

are these preseason/summer league?

Jameerthefear
10-20-2015, 06:51 PM
this is one of the more cringey threads i've seen on ish

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:21 PM
His ''source'' is LakersGround.net, where someone posted this. This someone, doesn't provide a real source either. :lol

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:23 PM
His ''source'' is LakersGround.net, where someone posted this. This someone, doesn't provide a real source either. :lol

:cheers: That's cute that you went hunting for my shit, didn't know The Cavs season was already so uneventful. 2/7 incoming gents. :rockon:

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:23 PM
Lol, the dude who posted that, used RealGM's preseason stats, where Russell ranks 26th in PER. That's behind guys like his own back up Huertas, Kostas Sloukas, and Alexey Tzubrevitch.

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:24 PM
:cheers: That's cute that you went hunting for my shit, didn't know The Cavs season was already so uneventful. 2/7 incoming gents. :rockon:
You're not getting at me with 2/6 or 2/7. I couldn't give a shit what LeBron's finals record is, I give a shit about the team.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:25 PM
You're not getting at me with 2/6 or 2/7. I couldn't give a shit what LeBron's finals record is, I give a shit about the team.

0/0? :confusedshrug:

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:26 PM
0/0? :confusedshrug:
Are you dumb?

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:28 PM
Lol, the dude who posted that, used RealGM's preseason stats, where Russell ranks 26th in PER. That's behind guys like his own back up Huertas, Kostas Sloukas, and Alexey Tzubrevitch.

Was wondering what this was based on because like you I looked it up and found that the preseason ones are totally different.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:30 PM
Are you dumb?

Well, you said you only care about The Cavs. They've done nothing but choke and get swept in the Finals.

Should I applaud instead? :applause: ?

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:30 PM
Well, you said you only care about is The Cavs. They've done nothing but choke and get swept in the Finals.

Should I applaud instead? :applause: ?
How did they get swept and how did they choke if they, according to your post five minutes ago, never made the finals? :confusedshrug:

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:33 PM
How did they get swept and choked if they, according to your post five minutes ago, never made the finals? :confusedshrug:

It was an obvious troll post, stay out your feelings sweety. :cheers:

Still ya ain't done shit. :confusedshrug:

What do the Cavs fan have to brag about but Lebron? Say what you want abt The Lakers but we still have our history and multiple championships to dwell on. All you guys have is Lebron and half of you still resent him deep down but you're so desperate for a championship you'll take the assfuccing as long as it breeds jewelry. Ive chosen to applaud. :applause:

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:33 PM
How did they get swept and how did they choke if they, according to your post five minutes ago, never made the finals? :confusedshrug:
hoopcity is getting raped in here :roll:

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:35 PM
It was an obvious troll post, stay out your feelings sweety. :cheers:
Of course it was, kiddo. Go back playing with your lego or jack off to Russell's amazing PER which ranks behind Reginald Becton. :bowdown:

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:35 PM
hoopcity is getting raped in here :roll:

Outbreak you have some cookies and hot dog as your avatar for the longest. Get your down low ass the fucc outta here. :facepalm

Jameerthefear
10-20-2015, 07:37 PM
Outbreak you have some cookies and hot dog as your avatar for the longest. Get your down low ass the fucc outta here. :facepalm
>not knowing what that picture is from
how retarded are you?

chips93
10-20-2015, 07:37 PM
haha get ready for everyone on ISH to suddenly use the "eye test" as their talent evaluating bible for this thread

anyone with a basic understanding of statistics would know that stats from a 5 or 6 game sample of pre season basketball is pretty close to useless.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:38 PM
Of course it was, kiddo. Go back playing with your lego or jack off to Russell's amazing PER which ranks behind Reginald Becton. :bowdown:

The funnest part is if you pay attention to any of my posts in the Lakers game or rookie threads you would know I already think Russell is trash. :oldlol:


Your hollow victory. Get this guy a championship.

Any championship.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:39 PM
>not knowing what that picture is from
how retarded are you?


I really could care less Jameer. :oldlol:

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:39 PM
This is funnest part is if you pay attention to any of my posts
Thank God I don't. Nothing but trash coming out of your mouth.

chips93
10-20-2015, 07:40 PM
Was wondering what this was based on because like you I looked it up and found that the preseason ones are totally different.

they arent college numbers either, i checked a couple

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:41 PM
Thank God I don't. Nothing but trash coming out of your mouth.

Yet you went searching the deepest part of the internet to see what the fucc I was talking about and you're replying to me quicker than a crackhead looking for an 8ball.

Yea, you don't care what I do at all.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:41 PM
Outbreak you have some cookies and hot dog as your avatar for the longest. Get your down low ass the fucc outta here. :facepalm
lmfao for calling out my avy. With the amount of time you spend posting here and you still don't know what it means? Someone call a battered woman's shelter for hoopcity because it looks like he needs one after this thread :roll:

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:42 PM
they arent college numbers either, i checked a couple

You guys are such idiots if it took you this long.

I didn't even put a link for crying out loud. :lol

Jameerthefear
10-20-2015, 07:42 PM
I really could care less Jameer. :oldlol:
Yeah you really could care less.

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:42 PM
Yet you went searching the deepest part of the internet to see what the fucc I was talking about and you're replying to me quicker than a crackhead looking for an 8ball.

Yea, you don't care what I do at all.
''Deepest part of the internet''

Copy

''PER

1) Karl-Anthony Towns...25.0
2) D'Angelo Russell........19.4
3) Stanley Johnson........17.9
4) Willie Cauley-Stein.....16.0
5) Mario Hezonja...........13.4
6) Kristaps Porzingis.......12.8
7) Frank Kaminsky..........12.7
8) Emmanuel Mudiay.......11.5
9) Justise Winslow...........11.1
10) Jahlil Okafor................5.2 ''

Paste it in Google Search. First hit.

Yet again, you have provided us with nothing but trash.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:43 PM
lmfao for calling out my avy. With the amount of time you spend posting here and you still don't know what it means? Someone call a battered woman's shelter for hoopcity because it looks like he needs one after this thread :roll:

Homie, you post here just as much as me if not more. Fucc you bragging about? :biggums:

chips93
10-20-2015, 07:43 PM
You guys are such idiots if it took you this long.

I didn't even put a link for crying out loud. :lol

so you took the time to type out all of that OP, for a transparent troll that everyone immediately saw through? :facepalm

im sure it took you longer to type out the OP than it took the the rest of us to figure out it was made up

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:44 PM
''Deepest part of the internet''

Copy

''PER

1) Karl-Anthony Towns...25.0
2) D'Angelo Russell........19.4
3) Stanley Johnson........17.9
4) Willie Cauley-Stein.....16.0
5) Mario Hezonja...........13.4
6) Kristaps Porzingis.......12.8
7) Frank Kaminsky..........12.7
8) Emmanuel Mudiay.......11.5
9) Justise Winslow...........11.1
10) Jahlil Okafor................5.2 ''

Paste it in Google Search. First hit.

Yet again, you have provided us with nothing but trash.


I'm living rent free inside of you baby, just relax. *pets* :pimp:

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:45 PM
so you took the time to type out all of that OP, for a transparent troll that everyone immediately saw through? :facepalm

im sure it took you longer to type out the OP than it took the the rest of us to figure out it was made up

Immediately saw through my ass, ya ni99as went digging.

Cavs fans at that...:roll:


Couldn't get any better.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:45 PM
I'm living rent free inside of you baby, just relax. *pets* :pimp:
:facepalm

it's not rent free when you have to waste the time making threads to get attention, and then taking L's left right and centre in the thread just makes it look worse.

chips93
10-20-2015, 07:46 PM
I'm living rent free inside of you baby, just relax. *pets* :pimp:

oh, so all you wanted was attention?

it makes some sense now

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:48 PM
oh, so all you wanted was attention?

it makes some sense now

Nah, I was bored.

But you've all entertained me, especially you and Uncle Drew.

Straight beside yourselves over the OP. :biggums:

Seek help.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:49 PM
Nah, I was bored.

But you've all entertained me, especially you and Uncle Drew.

Straight beside yourselves over the OP. :biggums:

Seek help.

Just admit it, you saw someone elsewhere put up some stats, liked the look of them and re-posted them without checking what the **** they actually were.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:50 PM
:facepalm

it's not rent free when you have to waste the time making threads to get attention, and then taking L's left right and centre in the thread just makes it look worse.

Why are you so upset over something that has little to nothing to do with you? Your dumb ass always inserting yourself into some shit. :lol

Go sit your old tired ass down somewhere.

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:50 PM
I'm living rent free inside of you baby, just relax. *pets* :pimp:
Heh, of course. You got called out for your bs and now you're trying to make it seem like you were trolling or w/e. Great job, we are all very proud of you.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:52 PM
Just admit it, you saw someone elsewhere put up some stats, liked the look of them and re-posted them without checking what the **** they actually were.

Why would I do that without a link dumbass? :lol

Don't confuse me with some stupid shit you probably did. :coleman:

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:54 PM
Heh, of course. You got called out for your bs and now you're trying to make it seem like you were trolling or w/e. Great job, we are all very proud of you.

The first thing you did was ask about Summer League stats, stop.

Then you got insecure and really went to look all of this up

Flawless execution.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:55 PM
Why would I do that without a link dumbass? :lol

Don't confuse me with some stupid shit you probably did. :coleman:
Because you crave attention and want people to think you did the math.

Thesmallmamba
10-20-2015, 07:55 PM
Holy shit OP is gettin bukaked in this thread :roll: :roll:


Does he always get embarrassed like this?



OP in this thread:


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif


:lol

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:55 PM
The first thing you did was ask about Summer League stats, stop.

Then you got insecure and really went to look all of this up

Flawless execution.
I'm guessing he went to look it up because it's obviously bullshit. At a glance anyone can tell it's not right.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:56 PM
Holy shit OP is gettin bukaked in this thread :roll: :roll:


Does he always get embarrassed like this?



OP in this thread:


http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3692973/kobefail.gif


:lol
More like
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Miami-Heat-Champagne-Celebration-Chris-Bosh.gif

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 07:57 PM
The first thing you did was ask about Summer League stats, stop.

Then you got insecure and really went to look all of this up

Flawless execution.
I got insecure and looked it all up, although it only took me a second or 12 to find your ''source''. :lol

Congrats on being less reliable than Chris Broussard. :applause:

At least accomplished something in your life.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:58 PM
Lol, yo bitch ass would post that Bosh picture.

confirmed Co*k smoker.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

outbreak
10-20-2015, 07:58 PM
I got insecure and looked it all up, although it only took me a second or 12 to find your ''source''. :lol

Congrats on being less reliable than Chris Broussard. :applause:

Just admit it, it took you weeks and weeks of searching to discover where he got the figures from....

He got you good.:facepalm

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 07:59 PM
I got insecure and looked it all up, although it only took me a second or 12 to find your ''source''. :lol

Congrats on being less reliable than Chris Broussard. :applause:

At least accomplished something in your life.

You said I got it from Lakersground , right? Well you're wrong. :lol

L's piling up on you.

Thesmallmamba
10-20-2015, 07:59 PM
Damn, I'm a Kobe fan, but if Kobe fans in this forum act as retarted as OP, I dont wanna be associated with them :lol

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 08:00 PM
You said I got it from Lakersground , right? Well you're wrong. :lol

L's piling up on you.
So you actually typed that stuff all yourself (and gave us false information as well)?

Just when I thought you couldn't be any more pathetic, it gets worse and worse.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 08:00 PM
Just admit it, it took you weeks and weeks of searching to discover where he got the figures from....

He got you good.:facepalm

Are you his protector or something? :biggums:

You taking this little harmless bout between me and Drew way too personally.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 08:00 PM
So you actually typed that stuff all yourself?

Just when I thought you couldn't be any more pathetic, it gets worse and worse.

Wrong again fucc ni99a. :cheers:

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 08:02 PM
Wrong again fucc ni99a. :cheers:
Alright then, what's your ''source''?

https://www.google.nl/#q=PER+++1)+Karl-Anthony+Towns...25.0++2)+D%27Angelo+Russell....... .19.4++3)+Stanley+Johnson........17.9++4)+Willie+C auley-Stein.....16.0++5)+Mario+Hezonja...........13.4++6 )+Kristaps+Porzingis.......12.8++7)+Frank+Kaminsky ..........12.7++8)+Emmanuel+Mudiay.......11.5++9)+ Justise+Winslow...........11.1++10)+Jahlil+Okafor. ...............5.2+

:lol

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 08:03 PM
Alright then, what's your ''source''?

https://www.google.nl/#q=PER+++1)+Karl-Anthony+Towns...25.0++2)+D%27Angelo+Russell....... .19.4++3)+Stanley+Johnson........17.9++4)+Willie+C auley-Stein.....16.0++5)+Mario+Hezonja...........13.4++6 )+Kristaps+Porzingis.......12.8++7)+Frank+Kaminsky ..........12.7++8)+Emmanuel+Mudiay.......11.5++9)+ Justise+Winslow...........11.1++10)+Jahlil+Okafor. ...............5.2+

:lol

You were close , I'll give you that much. :applause:

Just like 07 and 15, so close yet so far away.

Uncle Drew
10-20-2015, 08:06 PM
You were close , I'll give you that much. :applause:

Just like 07 and 15, so close yet so far away.
I have no idea what you're talking about. According to a reliable source, the Cavs never made the finals.

HOoopCityJones
10-20-2015, 08:12 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about. According to a reliable source, the Cavs never made the finals.

Might as well haven't. Ya trash even when you're good, and that's hard to pull off.

chips93
10-20-2015, 11:14 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about. According to a reliable source, the Cavs never made the finals.

:lol

bobopenguin
10-21-2015, 12:42 AM
I just wanna ask, are these numbers legit?

ZMonkey11
10-21-2015, 11:58 PM
:cheers: That's cute that you went hunting for my shit, didn't know The Cavs season was already so uneventful. 2/7 incoming gents. :rockon:

So he calls you out on some random stats, in which you don't know what they pertain to, from some random source, which you can't provide, and you attack him?

lol. ISH.

outbreak
10-22-2015, 12:06 AM
I just wanna ask, are these numbers legit?
No.