Anyone else really hoping Hillary Clinton goes to jail?

[Jameerthefear]

I know were going to get the usual beta losers like KevinNYCuck and CuckWallaces to come in here and defend her, but I know she's trouble for this country. She HAS to lose.

[TripleA]

She is rich and famous. I guarantee she will not go to jail.

[Draz]

Hillary 2016

[TheMan]

I know were going to get the usual beta losers like KevinNYCuck and CuckWallaces to come in here and defend her, but I know she's trouble for this country. She HAS to lose.
On what charges?:confusedshrug:

[DonDadda59]

She'll just pardon herself when she's President. :ohwell:

[Patrick Chewing]

She should be executed.

[TripleA]

She should be executed.

Strong words by P Chewing.

[DonDadda59]

She should be executed.

The Donald wouldn't like this. Hundreds of thousands of dollars and countless personal time thrown Hillary's way down the drain. :(

[TheMan]

She should be executed.
:no: This isn't Cuba, we don't execute political opponents

[poido123]

Not sure, but I know if Jameer went to jail, his life wouldn't change much from what it is now.

[Jameerthefear]

Not sure, but I know if Jameer went to jail, his life wouldn't change much from what it is now.
Well yours would definitely change. I'd have to move out of your head and you could have someone in there who pays rent.

[poido123]

Well yours would definitely change. I'd have to move out of your head and you could have someone in there who pays rent.


rent free jokes are only funny when you are not Jameer :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

rent free jokes are only funny when you are not Jameer :oldlol:
you need to worry about your balding instead of posting on ISH

[poido123]

you need to worry about your balding instead of posting on ISH


The balding jokes are on par with mum jokes.



Time to grow up Jammer, one step at a time and you will be out your front door!


Imagine that :banana:

[Jameerthefear]

The balding jokes are on par with mum jokes.



Time to grow up Jammer, one step at a time and you will be out your front door!


Imagine that :banana:
You're the one who needs to grow up Trent, you're like 36 years old and you're arguing with a 17 year old over the internet

[poido123]

You're the one who needs to grow up Trent, you're like 36 years old and you're arguing with a 17 year old over the internet


I come on here sparingly and enjoy taunting a closet paedophile smartass like you Jameer.


You however spend your whole life here pretending to be a tough guy, when I doubt that your nappies have come off since you were a kid.


The tragic part is, you're wasting away behind the computer screen when your young and able body should be down at the park and playing basketball with the other teenagers.


I'm old and had my time doing that. I have excuses for not getting around like I used to.


See how you sound really stupid? You will get to 25, 30 and realise how much time you wasted and I do feel sorry that you will get that realisation in one big hit.

[Thesmallmamba]

I come on here sparingly and enjoy taunting a closet paedophile smartass like you Jameer.


You however spend your whole life here pretending to be a tough guy, when I doubt that your nappies have come off since you were a kid.


The tragic part is, you're wasting away behind the computer screen when your young and able body should be down at the park and playing basketball with the other teenagers.


I'm old and had my time doing that. I have excuses for not getting around like I used to.


See how you sound really stupid? You will get to 25, 30 and realise how much time you wasted and I do feel sorry that you will get that realisation in one big hit.

#rentfree :yaohappy:

[Dave3]

I'm hoping she loses in the primaries, but it's looking more and more like the Repubs have nothing on her though.

They spent 11 hours today trying to something, and couldn't accomplish anything. Today should (but won't) put to rest all this Benghazi investigation business. If they couldn't prove (or show) anything today, after years of investigation and preparation) then why keep going?

[NumberSix]

I'm hoping she loses in the primaries, but it's looking more and more like the Repubs have nothing on her though.

They spent 11 hours today trying to something, and couldn't accomplish anything. Today should (but won't) put to rest all this Benghazi investigation business. If they couldn't prove (or show) anything today, after years of investigation and preparation) then why keep going?
Did you even watch it?

She is clearly busted for lying to the public and the victims families about that youtube movie being the cause of what happened and making a big show out of arresting the guy who made it knowing fully well that his video had nothing to do with it. She ignored 600+ requests for increased security and then when the shit hit the fan they spread this propaganda about a YouTube movie being the cause to make it seem like this was some spontaneous "protest" gone bad that they couldn't have forseen.

[KevinNYC]

I know were going to get the usual beta losers like KevinNYCuck and CuckWallaces to come in here and defend her, but I know she's trouble for this country. She HAS to lose.
:lol

Hillary's not only living rent free in Jam's head, she turned into an AirBnB and is making money on the deal. :pimp:


So what's the charge? There's no criminal investigation involving her.

[Dave3]

Did you even watch it?

She is clearly busted for lying to the public and the victims families about that youtube movie being the cause of what happened and making a big show out of arresting the guy who made it knowing fully well that his video had nothing to do with it.

They investigated this already, and there was no lying or cover up. At the time they discussed it being a result of "Innocence of Mulsims" that was the current CIA theory. That day there were multiple other riots and they presumed this to be a similar situation.

Intelligence committee member Ruppersbeger - “The House Intelligence Committee spent nearly two years looking at every aspect of the Intelligence Community’s activities before, during and after the attacks of September 11, 2012, in Benghazi, Libya. … The result is a bipartisan, factual, definitive report on what the Intelligence Community did and did not do. ... The report also shows that the process used to develop the talking points was flawed, but that the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis.”

Director of National Intelligence - “In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available."


James Clapper - "That was our collective best judgment at the time as to what should have been said.” He was asked whether, at the time the talking points were written, he or whoever wrote them believed they were accurate, and he responded: “We believed them to be, as tempered by our concerns for intelligence and investigatory equities.”


TL;DR - Senate Select Committee, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and House Select Committee on Intelligence all concluded: CIA did in fact believe attack was in response to movie, ultimately faulting CIA for poor information.

http://www.collins.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/81d5e2d9-cc8d-45af-aa8b-b937c55c7208/Flashing%20Red-HSGAC%20Special%20Report%20final.pdf

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Benghazi%20Report.pdf

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/press/benghazi.pdf

Obviously that turned out to be mostly false later, but there wasn't a false narrative. There was an immediate theory, followed by investigation, new information, and alteration to that theory.



She ignored 600+ requests for increased security

That part is true yes, security was lacking and was requested to be upgraded. The thing is though, all of that is already known. The state department admitted to that a month after the attacks - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-dept-downgraded-security-in-libya-before-deadly-attack-ex-officer-claims/2012/10/10/d7195faa-12e6-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html


make it seem like this was some spontaneous "protest" gone bad that they couldn't have forseen.
The above committees did conclude that this was indeed a spontaneous attack, involving little to no planning. Whether it was related to the video or not, that attack wasn't predicted.

So why is there still an investigation 3 years later? $5 million and 3 years can be summed up into - departmental failures and failure to respond to requests for heightened security, but no evidence of a cover up, nor was there any refusal to deploy military assets in range once the attack started. What did the hearing today accomplish in your opinion that can't be summed up in the previous statement?

Edit: And I don't want to turn this into a partisan thing cuz there's no reason to turn something over facts into political stone throwing, but the same Accountability Review Board Investigation that blamed state department officials also mentioned that it was also a bit on congress for cutting funding for embassy security.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

Again, it's still the fault of the State Department, but neither side really has its hands clean.

[KevinNYC]

Did you even watch it?

She is clearly busted for lying to the public and the victims families about that youtube movie being the cause of what happened

If you listened to her answers she is not clearly busted.

There was witnesses that say the main suspect who is currently under arrest did mention the video on the day of the attack..

What there was NOT was a street protest that turned into an attack. That part is definitely false.

The protest/embassy attack in Cairo was broadcast throughout the Arab world as was the channel that that revved up the protest in Cairo in the first place. That Islamist channel was popular in Eastern Libya.


As the attack in Benghazi was unfolding a few hours later, Mr. Abu Khattala told fellow Islamist fighters and others that the assault was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/world/middleeast/apprehension-of-ahmed-abu-khattala-may-begin-to-answer-questions-on-assault.html?hp&_r=3)

The attackers in Libya seemed to have used this fresh outrage to fuel and motivat their force for a spontaneous decision to military attack on the US facility on that day. However they had the facility under surveillance for a while and would have known Stevens was in Benghazi.

This has been known since December 2013. (http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/benghazi/?hp#/?chapt=0)


Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault. The attack was led, instead, by fighters who had benefited directly from NATO’s extensive air power and logistics support during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi. And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.
.......
Around dusk, the Pan-Arab satellite networks began broadcasting footage of protesters breaching the walls of the American Embassy in Cairo, pulling down the American flag and running up the black banner of militant Islam. Young men around Benghazi began calling one another with the news, several said, and many learned of the video for the first time.

........There is no doubt that anger over the video motivated many attackers. A Libyan journalist working for The New York Times was blocked from entering by the sentries outside, and he learned of the film from the fighters who stopped him. Other Libyan witnesses, too, said they received lectures from the attackers about the evil of the film and the virtue of defending the prophet.

The leaders of Ansar al-Shariah, the hard-line Islamist group allied with Mr. Abu Khattala, declared in a statement read on television the morning after the attack that they had not participated in it. But they lauded the assault as a just response to the video. They, too, insisted that a “peaceful protest” had “escalated as a result of shooting that came from the consulate, which led to the ambassador’s death by suffocation.”

[Nick Young]

she is rich and well connected. No matter what she did, she won't go to jail. Caitlyn Jenner murdered someone by ramming them with his car while he was on his cell phone and he got off scott-free.


Rich people don't go to prison.

[Nick Young]

I come on here sparingly and enjoy taunting a closet paedophile smartass like you Jameer.


You however spend your whole life here pretending to be a tough guy, when I doubt that your nappies have come off since you were a kid.


The tragic part is, you're wasting away behind the computer screen when your young and able body should be down at the park and playing basketball with the other teenagers.


I'm old and had my time doing that. I have excuses for not getting around like I used to.


See how you sound really stupid? You will get to 25, 30 and realise how much time you wasted and I do feel sorry that you will get that realisation in one big hit.
Jameer's still underage, he can't be a pedo until he turns 18 brah.

[NumberSix]

If you listened to her answers she is not clearly busted.

There was witnesses that say the main suspect who is currently under arrest did mention the video on the day of the attack..

What there was NOT was a street protest that turned into an attack. That part is definitely false.

The protest/embassy attack in Cairo was broadcast throughout the Arab world as was the channel that that revved up the protest in Cairo in the first place. That Islamist channel was popular in Eastern Libya.[/URL]
Of course she is.

Why is it that in her private emails, hours after the attack she said "we know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest"? That's a direct word for word quote. This was just hours after the attack. She clearly knew from the get-go that is was a planned terror attack.

Why did the White House press secretary then 3 days later tell the press that there's no evidence that this was anything other than a protest over some dumb film? Did he not get the memo? Families of the murdered Americans are saying that at the funerals, both Obama and Hillary told them the "it was a protest gone bad over a movie" story. They clearly knew at this point that this want the case.

The administration clearly knew it was a terror attack and made a decision to publicly say that it was a protest gone bad over a movie. There's no way around this.

[poido123]

Jameer's still underage, he can't be a pedo until he turns 18 brah.


True, but let's not act like a 17 year old drooling over 10-12 year olds is any better.

[Nick Young]

True, but let's not act like a 17 year old drooling over 10-12 year olds is any better.
he drools over cartoonish drawings of 10-12 year olds. It's weird, but to me, not exactly the same as if he was drooling over illegal pedo photos.

[poido123]

he drools over cartoonish drawings of 10-12 year olds. It's weird, but to me, not exactly the same as if he was drooling over illegal pedo photos.


He's posted up non cartoon ones too.

[KevinNYC]

Of course she is.

Why is it that in her private emails, hours after the attack she said "we know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest"? That's a direct word for word quote. This was just hours after the attack. She clearly knew from the get-go that is was a planned terror attack.

Why did the White House press secretary then 3 days later tell the press that there's no evidence that this was anything other than a protest over some dumb film?
So we're having 9 investigations over Talking Points? Talking Points that we have known for over two years were written by the intelligence community and not the White House. Talking Points that were intended to obscure the fact that part of the attack took place at classified CIA building?

This is why there was an 11 hour hearing?

Also, you change from what she said to what the white house spokesperson said. Here's her statement on Sept 12 (http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2012/09/197654.htm)
Yesterday, our U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya was attacked. Heavily armed militants assaulted the compound and set fire to our buildings. American and Libyan security personnel battled the attackers together. Four Americans were killed. They included Sean Smith, a Foreign Service information management officer, and our Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens. We are still making next of kin notifications for the other two individuals.

She does not mention a protest at Benghazi.

[KevinNYC]

Why did the White House press secretary then 3 days later tell the press that there's no evidence that this was anything other than a protest over some dumb film?

Here's the press conference on the 14th. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/14/press-briefing-press-secretary-jay-carney-9142012) Is this the one you mean, because, he never mentions a street protest in Libya and doesn't say anything definitive about Benghazi.


Q Wouldn’t it seem logical that the anniversary of 9/11 would be a time that you would want to have extra security around diplomats and military posts?

MR. CARNEY: Well, as you know, we are very vigilant around anniversaries like 9/11. The President is always briefed and brought up to speed on all the precautions being taken. But let’s be --

Q But saying you’re very vigilant and being very vigilant are different things.

MR. CARNEY: Jake, let’s be clear, these protests were in reaction to a video that had spread to the region --

Q At Benghazi? What happened at Benghazi --

MR. CARNEY: We certainly don't know. We don't know otherwise. We have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack. The unrest we’ve seen around the region has been in reaction to a video that Muslims, many Muslims find offensive. And while the violence is reprehensible and unjustified, it is not a reaction to the 9/11 anniversary that we know of, or to U.S. policy.

Q But the group around the Benghazi post was well armed. It was a well-coordinated attack. Do you think it was a spontaneous protest against a movie?

MR. CARNEY: Look, this is obviously under investigation, and I don’t have –

Q But your operating assumption is that that was in response to the video, in Benghazi? I just want to clear that up. That’s the framework? That’s the operating assumption?

MR. CARNEY: Look, it’s not an assumption --

Q Because there are administration officials who don’t -- who dispute that, who say that it looks like this was something other than a protest.

MR. CARNEY: I think there has been news reports on this, Jake, even in the press, which some of it has been speculative. What I’m telling you is this is under investigation. The unrest around the region has been in response to this video. We do not, at this moment, have information to suggest or to tell you that would indicate that any of this unrest was preplanned.

[DeuceWallaces]

Of course she is.

Why is it that in her private emails, hours after the attack she said "we know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest"? That's a direct word for word quote. This was just hours after the attack. She clearly knew from the get-go that is was a planned terror attack.

Why did the White House press secretary then 3 days later tell the press that there's no evidence that this was anything other than a protest over some dumb film? Did he not get the memo? Families of the murdered Americans are saying that at the funerals, both Obama and Hillary told them the "it was a protest gone bad over a movie" story. They clearly knew at this point that this want the case.

The administration clearly knew it was a terror attack and made a decision to publicly say that it was a protest gone bad over a movie. There's no way around this.

Lol, that narrative isn't as iron clad as Fox News would have you believe.

[Derka]

If you're gonna jail Hillary, jail them all. They're all f*cking criminals.

[UK2K]

Lol, that narrative isn't as iron clad as Fox News would have you believe.
http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/diane-620x255.jpg

So this email sent THAT night to her daughter must be doctored then, right?

What about the phone calls she made less than 24 hours later?


He also cited a call Clinton made the night of the attack to Mohammed Magariaf, who was then the president of Libya. According to a transcript of the call, Clinton acknowledged that the al-Qaida affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia was “claiming responsibility” for the attack.

And in a phone call with Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Kandil the next day, Clinton said “we know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.”

So why did she post a statement AFTER that said it was because of a video?

http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/documents/Tab%2051.pdf

[Dave3]

http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/diane-620x255.jpg

So this email sent THAT night to her daughter must be doctored then, right?

What about the phone calls she made less than 24 hours later?



So why did she post a statement AFTER that said it was because of a video?

http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/documents/Tab%2051.pdf
Information changes a lot in the days after something like this. Initially a group named Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility, leading people to believe it was a planned attack. Then a day later they retracted, and combined with the investigation led them to believe it was protest related. Then finally they settled on it being an unplanned spontaneous attack, but it was not related to the movie.

As an outsider, to me this seems like it's blown so out of proportion. People are upset that information in the 24 hours following a terrorist attack wasn't perfect therefore it's a cover up? Even when 3 separate bipartisan committees all concluded that those were the CIA's initial investigation results? Difficult to comprehend how all of this is worth it to Americans.

[KevinNYC]

So why did she post a statement AFTER that said it was because of a video?

http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/documents/Tab%2051.pdf
She answered this during the hearing.

[DeuceWallaces]

http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/diane-620x255.jpg

So this email sent THAT night to her daughter must be doctored then, right?

What about the phone calls she made less than 24 hours later?



So why did she post a statement AFTER that said it was because of a video?

http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/documents/Tab%2051.pdf

Because a group claimed responsibility then retracted a day or two later. It's pretty simple. Take the L. She's not my favorite candidate, but the Republicans did more to boost her candidacy yesterday than anyone could have imagined. They looked like fools as she smoked them for 11 hours straight.

[UK2K]

Information changes a lot in the days after something like this. Initially a group named Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility, leading people to believe it was a planned attack. Then a day later they retracted, and combined with the investigation led them to believe it was protest related. Then finally they settled on it being an unplanned spontaneous attack, but it was not related to the movie.

As an outsider, to me this seems like it's blown so out of proportion. People are upset that information in the 24 hours following a terrorist attack wasn't perfect therefore it's a cover up? Even when 3 separate bipartisan committees all concluded that those were the CIA's initial investigation results? Difficult to comprehend how all of this is worth it to Americans.
She either lied to her daughter, and foreign diplomats (by telling them it wasn't about a video) or she lied to the public (by telling them it was about a video).

One or the other is true. It's not up for debate. Take your pick.

[UK2K]

Because a group claimed responsibility then retracted a day or two later. It's pretty simple. Take the L. She's not my favorite candidate, but the Republicans did more to boost her candidacy yesterday than anyone could have imagined. They looked like fools as she smoked them for 11 hours straight.

So it was or wasn't about a video? That's all I want to know.


In a hearing that lasted more than eight hours, Mrs. Clinton escaped without the kind of major gaffe that plagued her 2013 appearance before the Senate.

But she seemed unsure of whether she spoke with Stevens in the months between swearing him in as ambassador and the attack, in which he died of smoke inhalation.

And she stumbled over her relationship with family confidant Sidney Blumenthal, who repeatedly sent her messages about Benghazi at her special email account, and she struggled to explain her department’s public stance blaming the anti-Islam video with what her own staffers — and she herself — were saying in the immediate aftermath of the attack, which left Stevens and three other Americans dead.



“I believe to this day the video played a role,” the former secretary said.

So it was kinda about the video, but not really? She's not even sure, I'm impressed you're so confident as to her line of thought. She won't say it had nothing to do with the video, because then she'd have to explain we were lied to.

[Dave3]

She either lied to her daughter, and foreign diplomats (by telling them it wasn't about a video) or she lied to the public (by telling them it was about a video).

One or the other is true. It's not up for debate. Take your pick.
Dude, information changes from day to day. If I say something today, and then something different 2 days later after new information, then neither is a lie, they're just what's believed at the time.

It's not a complicated concept.

[UK2K]

Dude, information changes from day to day. If I say something today, and then something different 2 days later after new information, then neither is a lie, they're just what's believed at the time.

It's not a complicated concept.
So you're telling me that after Hillary told her daughter and the prime minister of Egypt THAT DAY it had nothing to do with the video, in the following days our state department decided it WAS because of the video? And then changed their minds again back to the 'planned attack' narrative. That's what you're saying?

https://youtu.be/kMAQPr-jQq4

In case you forgot how many times we were told it was over a video.

Obama said on the 18th it was over a video. 7 days later. It took out state department 7 days to figure out it was a planned attack. That's what you're saying.

[DeuceWallaces]

She either lied to her daughter, and foreign diplomats (by telling them it wasn't about a video) or she lied to the public (by telling them it was about a video).

One or the other is true. It's not up for debate. Take your pick.

You don't seem to understand.

They thought it was the video/protest. Then a group claimed responsibility. Then they retracted. Then they discovered that it was seemingly unrelated. All within a week. Turn off FNC and the cooky websites you spend hours reading all day. She didn't purger herself, she's not going to jail, and the GOP looked like a bunch of dumb assholes yesterday.

[UK2K]

You don't seem to understand.

They thought it was the video/protest. Then a group claimed responsibility. Then they retracted. Then they discovered that it was seemingly unrelated. All within a week. Turn off FNC and the cooky websites you spend hours reading all day. She didn't purger herself, she's not going to jail, and the GOP looked like a bunch of dumb assholes yesterday.

That's what I said. We THOUGHT (definitively enough to tell the prime minister of Egypt) it was a planned attack, then our state department decided it was over a video, then it took them 7 days to figure out it was a planned attack, right?

Cause in the video above, Obama is on the 18th saying its over a video.

Am I following you? If that's what you're saying, that's fine, I just want to be able to get the timeline you're throwing out.

[UK2K]

By the way, it seems only the hardcore are still defending her...

http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2015/voters_doubt_clinton_s_honesty_about_benghazi

[QUOTE]A Full Measure-Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Clinton has not been honest in her disclosures and testimony related to the attack in Benghazi in September 2012 that led to the murder of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. Just 27% think she has been honest during the investigations. Twenty-two percent (22%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

While it may not come as a surprise that most Republicans (71%) and voters not affiliated with either major party (61%) think Clinton hasn

[Dave3]

So you're telling me that after Hillary told her daughter and the prime minister of Egypt THAT DAY it had nothing to do with the video, in the following days our state department decided it WAS because of the video? And then changed their minds again back to the 'planned attack' narrative. That's what you're saying?

https://youtu.be/kMAQPr-jQq4

In case you forgot how many times we were told it was over a video.

Obama said on the 18th it was over a video. 7 days later. It took out state department 7 days to figure out it was a planned attack. That's what you're saying.
Whatever it says in the 3 committee reports. Does it say the CIA knew by the 18th that it was unrelated to the video? If so, then yes Obama did lie if he said it on the 18th. If the reports don't say that, then no he didn't lie.

Also, just as a random point, even till today, no report says it was planned. It may be unrelated to that movie, but it was a spontaneous attack that culminated from the civil unrest, and Libya's chaotic situation in general.

[Dave3]

By the way, it seems only the hardcore are still defending her...

http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2015/voters_doubt_clinton_s_honesty_about_benghazi



You guys are in the minority with line of thinking. But you know.

Let me guess, Rasmussen is biased too?
Dude, I'm not defending her, nor do I care for her. I do believe she's a dishonest politician. I do believe she's probably lied about some details in this, and changes her mind to follow the political climate.

With respect to these specific facts though, further investigations, committees, and hearings are all just wasting taxpayer money. The Republicans know they won't find anything. Even you can admit that this is way more about taking her down personally than actual fact finding.

Not everything is option A or option B. Sometimes things are a mix. Hillary can be generally dishonest, and these investigations can be useless.

[KevinNYC]

That's what I said. We THOUGHT (definitively enough to tell the prime minister of Egypt) it was a planned attack, then our state department decided it was over a video, then it took them 7 days to figure out it was a planned attack, right?

Cause in the video above, Obama is on the 18th saying its over a video.

Am I following you? If that's what you're saying, that's fine, I just want to be able to get the timeline you're throwing out.Planned attack or about a video ARE NOT mutually exclusive. Posted in the other thread.

Street Level Protest about the video that morphed into an attack did not happen.

[DonDadda59]

Because a group claimed responsibility then retracted a day or two later. It's pretty simple. Take the L. She's not my favorite candidate, but the Republicans did more to boost her candidacy yesterday than anyone could have imagined. They looked like fools as she smoked them for 11 hours straight.

This. Clinton herself had pushed for the hearing to be public even though they offered a private, closed door session. She was smart enough to know they didn't have shit on her and this was a perfect opportunity to show her ability to deal with adversity and stay cool under duress, both tests she passed with flying colors.

72% of the country believes that the hearing was solely motivated by politics and the way Clinton handled the situation may have swayed people on the fence and Independents in her favor in a big way.

This was just a tax payer funded political ad for a Clinton presidency, which with every passing day seems more and more like an inevitability.

[Dave3]

This. Clinton herself had pushed for the hearing to be public even though they offered a private, closed door session. She was smart enough to know they didn't have shit on her and this was a perfect opportunity to show her ability to deal with adversity and stay cool under duress, both tests she passed with flying colors.

72% of the country believes that the hearing was solely motivated by politics and the way Clinton handled the situation may have swayed people on the fence and Independents in her favor in a big way.

This was just a tax payer funded political ad for a Clinton presidency, which with every passing day seems more and more like an inevitability.
Which poll showed 72%?

[West-Side]

She should be executed.

RIP, FBI is on your ass as I type.

[ArbitraryWater]

I come on here sparingly and enjoy taunting a closet paedophile smartass like you Jameer.


You however spend your whole life here pretending to be a tough guy, when I doubt that your nappies have come off since you were a kid.


The tragic part is, you're wasting away behind the computer screen when your young and able body should be down at the park and playing basketball with the other teenagers.


I'm old and had my time doing that. I have excuses for not getting around like I used to.


See how you sound really stupid? You will get to 25, 30 and realise how much time you wasted and I do feel sorry that you will get that realisation in one big hit.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah306/MaleRuler/GIFs/tumblr_nrek3yYXXh1svzzcto1_500_zpsthjv8hag.gif (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/MaleRuler/media/GIFs/tumblr_nrek3yYXXh1svzzcto1_500_zpsthjv8hag.gif.htm l)

The Meltdown is strong with this one

[KevinNYC]

Eat butt?
After about her 7th hour of testimony, Clinton ended every answer with eat butt under her breath.

[DonDadda59]

Eat butt?

Macho! Where you been? :lebronamazed:

I missed you :(

And for the record, no, my no-butt eating policy still stands.


Which poll showed 72%?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/politics/benghazi-committee-hillary-clinton-poll/

The more the GOP pushes this thing, the more strength Hillary gains. But I assume after yesterday's fiasco, they'll switch over to focusing on her emails from now on.

[UK2K]

After about her 7th hour of testimony, Clinton ended every answer with eat butt under her breath.

That would be impressive.

[Patrick Chewing]

RIP, FBI is on your ass as I type.


I am the FBI, n*gga! Ain't the first time we done got one of our own.

[Jameerthefear]

True, but let's not act like a 17 year old drooling over 10-12 year olds is any better.
Except I don't, you balding fat ass

[longhornfan1234]

I can't deny Hilary straight up dominated my party yesterday. Let's move on.

[Derka]

So much for Trey Gowdy's judgeship :lol

[poido123]

Except I don't, you balding fat ass



Yeah you have.


Don't lie.

[bladefd]

After about her 7th hour of testimony, Clinton ended every answer with eat butt under her breath.

You're joking, right? :lol :lol

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah you have.


Don't lie.
No I haven't, you ****ing clown. Link a post.

[NumberSix]

Planned attack or about a video ARE NOT mutually exclusive. Posted in the other thread.

Street Level Protest about the video that morphed into an attack did not happen.
This is the key point. There was never a protest. The video is not even important. There were 600+ requests for security that were ignored before the attack. There was no protest. They didn't die in a random unforeseen attack.

The only reason the "protest" lie exists is to cover up the fact that the state department failed to protect people that were begging for security but were ignored.

[senelcoolidge]

This is the type of stuff you see in third world cesspools, this type of corruption. She's getting away with murder basically. It's infuriating how they blamed all of this on some video that had nothing to do with anything. There weren't even any protest in Benghazi that day. It doesn't take a genius to see that they are lying. It's shameful. She was laughing and joking during those hearing..4 people were murdered under her watch..damn..and she's running for president.

[KevinNYC]

This is the type of stuff you see in third world cesspools, this type of corruption. She's getting away with murder basically. It's infuriating how they blamed all of this on some video that had nothing to do with anything. There weren't even any protest in Benghazi that day. It doesn't take a genius to see that they are lying. It's shameful. She was laughing and joking during those hearing..4 people were murdered under her watch..damn..and she's running for president.
You need to breathe into a paper bag for a while.

So this is corruption? She's getting away with murder? So she killed people now? She sent her personal assassin Sidney Blumenthal to lead the attack?

Laughing and Joking, you didn't watch did you?

4 people were murdered during an attack on one of our diplomatic facilities and we have had 9 investigations into it. This latest committee has been around longer than the investigations into Iran-Contra, Pearl Harbor and 9/11. How many people died during attacks under the previous administration? Here's the list Politifact put together minus the ones in Iraql

Dec. 15, 2001: Kathmandu, Nepal. One dead

Jan. 22, 2002:Calcutta, India. Five dead

March 20, 2002: Lima, Peru, nine dead
June 14, 2002: Karachi, Pakistan 12 dead

Nov. 9, 2002: Kathmandu, Nepal one dead

May 12, 2003: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. eight dead

July 30, 2004: Tashkent, Uzbekistan one dead

Dec. 7, 2004: Jedda, Saudi Arabia nine dead.

March 2, 2006: Karachi, Pakistan, four dead

Sept. 12, 2006: Damascus, Syria, one dead

Jan. 14, 2008: Beirut Lebanon, three dead

March 18, 2008: Sanaa, Yemen. two dead

July 9, 2008: Istanbul, Turkey, three dead

Sept. 17, 2008: Sanaa, Yemen. 10 dead

Nov. 27, 2008: Kabul, Afghanistan, four dead

Do you remember investigation after investigation into them?

Do you remember shit like this?

http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/15/43/980x490/landscape-1445620986-benghazistore.jpg

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/gallery/benghazi-memorabilia/screen-shot-2014-05-08-at-3-14-54-pm.png

No? So What's was different about this?

The scale of the attack. An ambassador was killed. And it was an election year.

[NumberSix]

You need to breathe into a paper bag for a while.

So this is corruption? She's getting away with murder? So she killed people now? She sent her personal assassin Sidney Blumenthal to lead the attack?

Laughing and Joking, you didn't watch did you?

4 people were murdered during an attack on one of our diplomatic facilities and we have had 9 investigations into it. This latest committee has been around longer than the investigations into Iran-Contra, Pearl Harbor and 9/11. How many people died during attacks under the previous administration? Here's the list Politifact put together minus the ones in Iraql


Do you remember investigation after investigation into them?

Do you remember shit like this?

No? So What's was different about this?

The scale of the attack. An ambassador was killed. And it was an election year.
That's another key point.

Had they just come out and said "our ambassador in Libya fell victim to a terror attack" it wouldn't have been a huge deal..... unless it also came out that they ignored hundreds of requests from that ambassador to increase security. Obama did not want that talking point out there during the election. It's obvious.

[KevinNYC]

This is the key point. There was never a protest. The video is not even important.
You missing my point. That it wasn't a street protest has been known for years.

However the attackers DID mention the video. See this post here. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11792084&postcount=98)


There were 600+ requests for security that were ignored before the attack. Also known for years. None of which go to the secretary of state. The go to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and he was disciplined and retired after Accountability Review Board's report came out.
One of the head's of the ARB's said he saw those requests and most were routine. There were no "hair on fire" requests. None would have repelled an attack by 125 gunmen with artillery and RPGs.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]They didn't die in a random unforeseen attack./QUOTE]
I don't know what you mean by "random" but it certainly was out of the blue and completely unforeseen. There was no intelligence beforehand about this attack. The ambassador has access to all intelligence and he still chose to go to Benghazi. If there was any threats to the complex I don't think he would have gone. He felt it was worth the risks he knew about.

[NumberSix]

You missing my point. That it wasn't a street protest has been known for years.
Yes, I know that. That isn't the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that they never thought there was a protest.

[KingBeasley08]

Republicans fcked up again. They don't remember the last time they tried to bust a Clinton in public hearings. All it did was shoot his approval ratings up. These morons just gave Hillary Clinton the White House

[KevinNYC]

That's another key point.

Had they just come out and said "our ambassador in Libya fell victim to a terror attack" it wouldn't have been a huge deal.

Bullshit. Provably bullshit. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya)

Easily disproven bullshit (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/12/timeline_the_romney_campaign_s_odd_response_to_the _embassy_protests.html)

Statment from the Romney campaign 10:24PM 9/11/12

I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

Head of the Republican National Committee (https://twitter.com/Reince/status/245733811747422208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) a midnight past midnight of 9/11/12
Reince Priebus ✔ @Reince
Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.
12:01 AM - 12 Sep 2012


I believe this is called politicizing the tragedy.

[Jameerthefear]

Well if it isn't KevinCuck coming here to defend his stupid bitch.

[KevinNYC]

Yes, I know that. That isn't the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that they never thought there was a protest.That bold part is absolutely not true.

There were initial news reports of a protests from reporters who were in Benghazi talking to people on the street.

The Libyan government was saying there was a street protest.

Intelligence is a cumulative process and reports come in from a lot of different inputs. In then has to be evaluated. The official intelligence assessment changed like two or three time in days around when Clinton said her email to Egypt. A Facebook page for Ansar Al Sharia took credit for the attack and the next day they retracted it.

The protest was not some "made up cover story." There were on the ground reports of it. Secondly, we didn't need a new investigation of who and how the declassified talking points were created. We've known for years (http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/16/timeline-the-benghazi-emails/)that the reference to demonstrations in Benghazi was added by the CIA, not the White House, not the State Department. And even then it was not definitive as per the bolded info below.
The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. diplomatic post and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.

Do you know how long it took us to figure who was responsible for the USS Cole bombing?

[KevinNYC]

Well if it isn't KevinCuck coming here to defend his stupid bitch.

'Sup Jam. So what about her bothers you so much? The confidence and poise that you lack?


Also do you have a criminal charge in mind or just like fantasizing?

[RidonKs]

Macho! Where you been? :lebronamazed:

I missed you :(

And for the record, no, my no-butt eating policy still stands.



http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/politics/benghazi-committee-hillary-clinton-poll/

The more the GOP pushes this thing, the more strength Hillary gains. But I assume after yesterday's fiasco, they'll switch over to focusing on her emails from now on.


from your article

While most Americans say they are dissatisfied with Clinton's handling of the Benghazi attack, an even larger majority feels the committee is "mostly using the investigation to gain political advantage," rather than conducting an objective investigation.

they put her square in the limelight and yes, she handled it as adeptly as anybody could be expected to. nobody expected her to cave under pressure.

but context matters.

overall people are dissatisfied with clinton's handling. her reputation is being crafted as this secretary of state who represents everything wrong about american bureaucracy and political elites designing complicated systems that don't function properly.

this has nothing to do with hillary clinton herself. it results from an overextension of american power and administrative capacity to open up so many diplomatic missions, especially with tensions as they are.

but six months down the line, when benghazi has been dead for a while btu gets brought up again... people aren't going to start saying "remember how incredible clinton was under 11 hours of strenuous testimony!??"

no

they will remember hillary clinton as merely the face of the entire fck-up

y'all are way too short-sighted on this sh!t

[TheMan]

'Sup Jam. So what about her bothers you so much? The confidence and poise that you lack?


Also do you have a criminal charge in mind or just like fantasizing?
Goddam

[Jameerthefear]

'Sup Jam. So what about her bothers you so much? The confidence and poise that you lack?


Also do you have a criminal charge in mind or just like fantasizing?
Keep licking her boots you ****ing loser. But when she is IN JAIL and INDEFENSIBLE, just remember what I told you.

[poido123]

'Sup Jam. So what about her bothers you so much? The confidence and poise that you lack?


Also do you have a criminal charge in mind or just like fantasizing?



:roll: :roll:


One more year til jameer is 18 and he's fcked. :oldlol:


He can't help himself. Sick **** should be in jail.

[KevinNYC]

Keep licking her boots you ****ing loser. But when she is IN JAIL and INDEFENSIBLE, just remember what I told you.And why would she be IN JAIL?

[Jameerthefear]

:roll: :roll:


One more year til jameer is 18 and he's fcked. :oldlol:


He can't help himself. Sick **** should be in jail.
F*cked for what, cuck? Why would I be f*cked when I turn 18? I'm sure I'll be more successful than a balding loser who works at a ****ing airport.

[Jameerthefear]

And why would she be IN JAIL?
Because she is a LIAR and put citizens in danger with her incompetence. Do I have to spell it out for you? Maybe keep up with the ****ing situation you moron.

[poido123]

F*cked for what, cuck? Why would I be f*cked when I turn 18? I'm sure I'll be more successful than a balding loser who works at a ****ing airport.



Most jobs you have to leave the house to make a living.


I'm not quite sure how that works for you :confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

Most jobs you have to leave the house to make a living.


I'm not quite sure how that works for you :confusedshrug:
I'm not going straight into the workforce to get a shitty job at an airport like you bud. I'm going to COLLEGE to get a DEGREE. I know those words are foreign as **** to you, but you could still learn them.

[poido123]

I'm not going straight into the workforce to get a shitty job at an airport like you bud. I'm going to COLLEGE to get a DEGREE. I know those words are foreign as **** to you, but you could still learn them.


I went to university. I have a degree in Sports Management.


I cannot find work in my field(pays well enough), however I have managed to work up to Load Control in Aviation which I'm earning close to 100K.


Do you really think I need my degree now?

[KyrieTheFuture]

Jameer....jesus christ man

[Jameerthefear]

I went to university. I have a degree in Sports Management.


I cannot find work in my field(pays well enough), however I have managed to work up to Load Control in Aviation which I'm earning close to 100K.


Do you really think I need my degree now?
Sure you make that much bud. You are a loser. Point blank. If you make that much money you could at least afford some ****ing Rogaine or something.

[KevinNYC]

Because she is a LIAR and put citizens in danger with her incompetence. Do I have to spell it out for you? Maybe keep up with the ****ing situation you moron.
So you basically have nothing.

If you actually want to know shit, you can check these out.
http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Benghazi%20Report.pdf
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

[Jameerthefear]

>links to biased sources.
Just stop, cuck.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Jam you sure you aren't a liberal? Having a superiority complex because you went to (or in your case, plan to attend) university is the ultimate lib move. Unless I'm mistaken, what Poido does is make sure the plane is balanced and not too heavy so your dumb ass doesn't die in a plane crash when you're flying to and from Uni. So, you should be thanking the people that do jobs like his, instead of poorly attempting to walk all over them.

[poido123]

Jam you sure you aren't a liberal? Having a superiority complex because you went to (or in your case, plan to attend) university is the ultimate lib move. Unless I'm mistaken, what Poido does is make sure the plane is balanced and not too heavy so your dumb ass doesn't die in a plane crash when you're flying to and from Uni. So, you should be thanking the people that do jobs like his, instead of poorly attempting to walk all over them.


:applause:

[Jameerthefear]

Jam you sure you aren't a liberal? Having a superiority complex because you went to (or in your case, plan to attend) university is the ultimate lib move. Unless I'm mistaken, what Poido does is make sure the plane is balanced and not too heavy so your dumb ass doesn't die in a plane crash when you're flying to and from Uni. So, you should be thanking the people that do jobs like his, instead of poorly attempting to walk all over them.
I don't care about going to college. That's not how I base my opinion on poido. Poido is a balding middle-aged loser. It reflects VERY poorly on you when you defend him

[poido123]

I don't care about going to college. That's not how I base my opinion on poido. Poido is a balding middle-aged loser. It reflects VERY poorly on you when you defend him


One minute you make a point of going to college and NOW you don't care about college, but now I'm a loser after explaining that I have a pretty good paying job?


I just can't work this logic out Jam.


You have one part right, I am unfortunately balding. Not much I can do about that one.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't care about going to college. That's not how I base my opinion on poido. Poido is a balding middle-aged loser. It reflects VERY poorly on you when you defend him
I'm not defending him, I'm attempting to point out the way you act is not going to get you places you want to go. You need to grow up man, I'm more likely to defend you than Poido, and I HAVE defended you before. I don't know why I care but I don't want to see you **** up your life with your angst and attitude. You aren't 14 man.

[CarlosBoozer]

Enough igfhting you two, we need ISH to be united as one!

[KevinNYC]

>links to biased sources.
Just stop, cuck.
Why would the Republican Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee be biased in favor of Hillary Clinton?

Also how you do feel about white racists adopting cuck as their insult of choice?

From twitter ‏user @cuckservative

Another nig even told him he is wrong, he doesn't understand her though. Still displaying ****** science logic.

******?

85 IQ ******?

Firmly grasping history ******?

Bix nood, muh ***, trying oh so hard to keep up, ******?
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#PaulRyanIsACuck Who might as well look like this. He's a #Cuckservative, traitorous on amnesty, dated a black girl

#PaulRyanIsACuck because he would rather be anally raped by dindus than be called a racist.

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I pity your children if #cuckservative like you allow third world savages to destroy our once beautiful white nation

Between adopting nigs, welcoming mestizos, and securing Israel's border, the #cuckservative has no time for his own white racedindus was a new one on me.

[Hotlantadude81]

I want all liberals to go to the gas chamber.