ISH official vote, best single season of the top 10 all time

[SouBeachTalents]

I didn't include the likes of Shaq ('00), Duncan ('03), Magic ('87), and Russell ('62), as they have seasons that are pretty indisputable imo

Kobe

http://goo.gl/yQSTuw

LeBron

http://goo.gl/PseoVR

Hakeem

http://goo.gl/B2I7be

Bird

http://goo.gl/xaoCfN

Wilt

http://goo.gl/F6QeV9

Kareem

http://goo.gl/fE4DoH

Jordan

http://goo.gl/fnT2PD

[kennethgriffin]

2009 was kobes best season IMO


even though he was more all around in 2001 and more supremely talented in 2006..

i feel like a guys best seasons are when he can lead a team full of scrubs to a title

thats when kobe did the impossible

[catch24]

My votes:

Kobe

2006

LeBron

2013

Hakeem

1994

Bird

1986

Wilt

1967

Kareem

1977

Jordan

1992

[dhsilv]

Kobe 03 is the only one I feel strongly about. Defensively he was just so much better that year than he was after it. By 06 or so he was literally playing defense only when he felt he had to.

Would have to put a lot of thought on the best lebron or jordan year. So many great seasons.

That said I think 02 Duncan is very much up there with 03 if not better.

[GIF REACTION]

Kobe doesn't have a top 10 peak

It's surprising but it's true

[catch24]

2009 was kobes best season IMO


even though he was more all around in 2001 and more supremely talented in 2006..

i feel like a guys best seasons are when he can lead a team full of scrubs to a title

thats when kobe did the impossible

Ariza, Pau, Lamar, Fisher, and Bynum weren't scrubs. And 2009 wasn't Kobe's best year at all. His defense was mediocre (a lot worse than in 2006) and he didn't have the explosiveness he did in 2006 and 2007.

[1987_Lakers]

I don't think Bill Russell is top 10, what he did in his career puts him top 3 greatest ever, but peak wise I can name 10 players who were better.

My top 10 in no order...

'67 Wilt
'77 Kareem
'86 Bird
'87 Magic
'00 Shaq
'91 Jordan
'03 Duncan
'08 Kobe
'94 Hakeem
'13 LeBron

HM: '77 Bill Walton

Walton will get dismissed because he was injured alot, but when he was healthy he was the most complete center in NBA History, his rebounding ability was all-time great, his passing is probably the greatest ever for a big man, he had DPOY impact on defense, and a good scorer, not dominant & amazing leadership. I'll take peak Walton over peak Russell.

[dhsilv]

Kobe doesn't have a top 10 peak

It's surprising but it's true

He was easily a top 10 player in the NBA a few times over his career.

[Fallen Angel]

'15 Harden

[Dr Hawk]

in no order:
91' jordan
09' lebron
77' kareem
94' hakeem
67' wilt
86' bird
01' kobe

[SHAQisGOAT]

Including post-season?

[Rocketswin2013]

Best as in what? Most successful or best as a player?

[SHAQisGOAT]

Best as in what? Most successful or best as a player?

This also... And how about post-season play?

[kennethgriffin]

Ariza, Pau, Lamar, Fisher, and Bynum weren't scrubs. And 2009 wasn't Kobe's best year at all. His defense was mediocre (a lot worse than in 2006) and he didn't have the explosiveness he did in 2006 and 2007.


ariza, pau and lamar were literally the only guys on LA that werent scrubs


bynum could barely contribute 6ppg. he was raw as f*ck

fisher wouldnt start on any other championship team in nba history.



and i said a team full of scrubs. not entirely

8 of kobes 11 teammates were trash

[LoneyROY7]

Tough call, but I'd probably lean towards '16 Griffin.

[Kobe_6/8]

Kobe 2003 - started lifting weights and improved his defense/perimeter shooting.

LeBron 2009 - 2009 LeBron easily wins a ring with any version of the Heat from 2011-2014.

Hakeem 1995 - very impressive playoff run.

[dhsilv]

ariza, pau and lamar were literally the only guys on LA that werent scrubs


bynum could barely contribute 6ppg. he was raw as f*ck

fisher wouldnt start on any other championship team in nba history.



and i said a team full of scrubs. not entirely

8 of kobes 11 teammates were trash

14.28 points per game 7.96 rebounds per game in 28.92 minutes and a PER over 20 is trash?

We all known Fisher proved to come up big in the playoffs and was a leader on and off the court. His game on general was pretty weak.

As roll players go they had Radmanovic, Fisher, and Vujacic who were all very good shooters for them over the course of the season.

5 players with a 15 or better. Team PER of 16.65. Still over 15 at 15.29 if we drop Kobe. That was FAR from a scrub team. Add in they started when Bynum was healthy 6 guys 6'10 or better. They were a near impossible match up for most teams.

[ArbitraryWater]

This also... And how about post-season play?
of course post-season play.. its pretty simple. Its your way of judging a player.

To OP, there's plenty reason to consider 2007 as Kobe's best, I didn't, but fpliii did... its definitely better than 2009 Kobe.

[ShaqTwizzle]

ariza, pau and lamar were literally the only guys on LA that werent scrubs

:biggums:
Pau outplayed Dwight in the Finals...

Odom was pretty good for a 3rd wheel.
Ariza is the Lebron stopper and his 3pt shot was money in that run.
Fisher is alpha with the stone face and the clutch shots.

That was a more then decent contender level cast.
Plus the competition was kinda weak that year.

An injured Rockets team led by... Ron Artest?
Utah team led by Boozer.
Injured Orlando team led by choke Dwight and roleplayers.

There was no good teams to really challange LAL.
No Spurs or Boston etc...

[kennethgriffin]

:biggums:
Pau outplayed Dwight in the Finals...

Odom was pretty good for a 3rd wheel.
Ariza is the Lebron stopper and his 3pt shot was money in that run.
Fisher is alpha with the stone face and the clutch shots.

That was a more then decent contender level cast.
Plus the competition was kinda weak that year.

An injured Rockets team led by... Ron Artest?
Utah team led by Boozer.
Injured Orlando team led by choke Dwight and roleplayers.

There was no good teams to really challange LAL.
No Spurs or Boston etc...


i say everyone not named odom, pau or ariza is trash

then you quote me and list odom, pau and ariza as your argument

i think you missed the point buddy boy



and fish can hit wide open shots sometimes. ya.. but hes a scrub. i dont give a f*ck what anyone says... that guy would not survive in the nba with any other 2guard than a ball dominant playmaker that can average 30


otherwise fishers just an extremely undersized limited shooting guard. since kobe handled his PG responsibilities

i'l say it again... 8 of kobes 11 teammates were trash

[ShaqTwizzle]

i'l say it again... 8 of kobes 11 teammates were trash

Eh.
That team had a pretty shitty bench that we can agree on.

There starting 5 was very good though and that is all that was needed in a year like 2009.

Kobe (best player in the league)
Pau (best 2nd option in the league)
Odom (do it all 3rd wheel)
Fisher (alpha)
Ariza (good)

The rest were mostly bad though Bynum, Brown and the other roleplayers had good games here or there throughout that run.

[kennethgriffin]

Eh.
That team had a pretty shitty bench that we can agree on.

There starting 5 was very good though and that is all that was needed in a year like 2009.

Kobe (best player in the league)
Pau (best 2nd option in the league)
Odom (do it all 3rd wheel)
Fisher (alpha)
Ariza (good)

The rest were mostly bad though Bynum, Brown and the other roleplayers had good games here or there throughout that run.


i agree. kobe/pau/odom/ariza were a very good starting 4 of a 12 man roster


and alpha means **** all... derek fisher is/was/always has been... a scrub


alpha mentalities can be possessed by literally anyone

[feyki]

67 Wilt #1
72 Kareem #2
89 Jordan #3
62 Russell #4
03 Duncan #5
94 Hakeem #6
09 Lebron #7
00 Shaq #8
50 Mikan #9
84 Bird #10

HM ;

09 Kobe , 64 Oscar , 69 West , 87 Magic , 77 Erving , 62 Elgin

..

[AngelEyes]

67 Wilt #1
72 Kareem #2
89 Jordan #3
62 Russell #4
03 Duncan #5
94 Hakeem #6
09 Lebron #7
00 Shaq #8
50 Mikan #9
84 Bird #10

HM ;

09 Kobe , 64 Oscar , 69 West , 87 Magic , 77 Erving , 62 Elgin

..

Mikan? Really? Come on now. . .

[Genaro]

Tough call, but I'd probably lean towards '16 Griffin.
Yes, no one can throw punches at equipment guys like him.

[feyki]

Mikan? Really? Come on now. . .


He put 32 points of His Team's 85 Points and with around %80 ft ( he would called 7 footer in todays ) in the finals . Beside of this , He had good playmaking , elite rebounding(he played against 6'9 centers , who are called a nearly 7 footer in todays , at between 50-54 ) , and he probably had great defence ( i'm not sure on that , but that's true by win shares and his defensive team stats ) .

[AngelEyes]

He put 32 points of His Team's 85 Points and with around %80 ft ( he would called 7 footer in todays ) in the finals . Beside of this , He had good playmaking , elite rebounding(he played against 6'9 centers , who are called a nearly 7 footer in todays , at between 50-54 ) , and he probably had great defence ( i'm not sure on that , but that's true by win shares and his defensive team stats ) .

Mikan played in a league before the influx of black players. I don't think his talent would translate to other eras.

[feyki]

Mikan played in a league before the influx of black players. I don't think his talent would translate to other eras.

He doesn't need translating his game to another era .

He played against Nat Clifton in his 3 finals .

[AngelEyes]

He don't need translating his game to another era .

He played against Nat Clifton in his 3 finals .

Mikan doesn't transcend eras. He was great for his time and what he did for the league in its early days but that's about it.

[Odinn]

Top 6;
1966-67 Wilt Chamberlain
1979-80 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*
1985-86 Larry Bird
1990-91 Michael Jordan
1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon
1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal
(listed chronologically, ranking doesn't really matter for me)
(*: Well, TBH, 1976-77 was Kareem's best individual season. But when you say the single best season, it's hard to pass over the title and the robbed FMVP award.)

Next 2;
2002-03 Tim Duncan
2011-12 LeBron James

Candidates for remaining last 2 spots;
1963-64 Oscar Robertson
1982-83 Moses Malone
1986-87 Magic Johnson
1992-93 Charles Barkley
2005-06 Kobe Bryant

[72-10]

Is postseason factored in, or just their regular season?