Safety officer (whatever that is) tosses a black female teen in SC high school

[TheMan]

http://jezebel.com/disturbing-video-shows-school-safety-officer-appearing-1738776302

Thoughts?

Are blacks gonna get riled up over this. Are the usual white cop defenders gon' defend what looks like excessive force again?

Inquiring minds want to know

and do High Schools have security guards? Since when :wtf:

[BigNBAfan]

nice try

most people are above this race/color bullshit.

#PEACE

[TripleA]

nice try

most people are above this race/color bullshit.

#PEACE

#peace

[nathanjizzle]

that rent a cop should die.

[iamgine]

Looks like the officer has asked her to go out quietly but she refused.

She's lucky he didn't taze her.

[AlphaWolf24]

sh!t that aint nothing..we had " Narc's... Truant Officer's ...safety officers...etc" in my elementary school...


they are basically on campus Police Officers....If a student is posing a threat to other students..or teachers/staff....they will come and F you up....


seems like the girl wasn't listening to her teacher or the Narc.....and he threw her azz down.


Narc gonna Narc.

[bluechox2]

she needs to check that black privilege

[oarabbus]

He probably wouldn't have manhandled a white girl like that though

Then again, would a white girl have disrupted the class the same way? We need more information.

[ALBballer]

Rent a cops going through a power trip. Sure the teen is a being a snobby little kunt but she's a child and the other guy is an adult. The adult should know better and should be fired and probably charged with assault.

[UK2K]

Yep, should just hit her with the taser.

She didn't want to comply... Ok then we'll do it the hard way.

[NumberSix]

http://jezebel.com/disturbing-video-shows-school-safety-officer-appearing-1738776302

Thoughts?

Are blacks gonna get riled up over this. Are the usual white cop defenders gon' defend what looks like excessive force again?

Inquiring minds want to know

and do High Schools have security guards? Since when :wtf:
This is a clear cut case of the cop being in the wrong, therefore, there will be no outrage. It cases of clear right or clear wrong, there is no way to polarize it. It's only in cases where we don't know what actually happened that the media are able to race bait.

[fiddy]

According to Sheriff Leon Lott, the school resource officer was acting in response to a student who was refusing to leave class.

:rolleyes:

[UK2K]

My high schools always had an Officer even though most of the students in my school were well behaved.

As did mine.

Fact is, this would have never happened had she just done what she was asked to do. She didn't.

The end.

[IGOTGAME]

As did mine.

Fact is, this would have never happened had she just done what she was asked to do. She didn't.

The end.

Do you understand the function of cops in our society. If everyone was always 100% follows the leader of the law and not making waves then we could fire 90% of them

[UK2K]

Do you understand the function of cops in our society. If everyone was always 100% follows the leader of the law and not making waves then we could fire 90% of them

That would save our local and state governments a lot of money wouldn't it. People should do that then.

Had she just listened to her TEACHER in the first place, the officer wouldn't have been called. Apparently, she doesn't want to listen to anybody. Well, welcome to life little girl.

[TripleA]

That would save our local and state governments a lot of money wouldn't it. People should do that then.

Had she just listened to her TEACHER in the first place, the officer wouldn't have been called. Apparently, she doesn't want to listen to anybody. Well, welcome to life little girl.

That's some weak shit I rember in middle school when one of the school officers
Stomped the shit out of some kid. The kid was selling pills in the bathroom. He tried to run and got clotheslined

[Duderonomy]

It was excessive force, he should be fired or at least put on notice. I only went to a public high school freshman year and I don't remember there being Security Guards. I don't have a problem with campus police but high school cops seems a little too penitentiary.

[UK2K]

That's some weak shit I rember in middle school when one of the school officers
Stomped the shit out of some kid. The kid was selling pills in the bathroom. He tried to run and got clotheslined
Yep, my high school was probably 85% white. We had a kid who tried to pick a fight with a teacher and he was stomped out abruptly by our two officers.

Now, did he overreact? Yeah, it looks like he was having a bad day.

But the point still stands, it all could have been avoided if...

[nightlight]

Yep, my high school was probably 85% white. We had a kid who tried to pick a fight with a teacher and he was stomped out abruptly by our two officers.

Now, did he overreact? Yeah, it looks like he was having a bad day.

But the point still stands, it all could have been avoided if...

You're weird. No one is absolving the student of blame here. There's a more serious problem when an adult - in a position of authority over high school kids - responds in this way.

[GOBB]

You guys are idiots. It's a kid. For you to manhandled one that way, toss them across the floor them slap handcuffs on them is embarrassing. Officer should lose their job, period.

[GOBB]

Then again, would a white girl have disrupted the class the same way? We need more information.

They would just come into school the next day. Kill officer, teacher, classmates and themselves.

[UK2K]

You're weird. No one is absolving the student of blame here. There's a more serious problem when an adult - in a position of authority over high school kids - responds in this way.
I agree. He should be removed from his position.

What's your point?

[UK2K]

You guys are idiots. It's a kid. For you to manhandled one that way, toss them across the floor them slap handcuffs on them is embarrassing. Officer should lose their job, period.

I am as shocked as you are.

She had every opportunity to leave on her own. She declined.

You'd think her parents would have taught her to listen to authority.

[catch24]

I get that she wasn't complying, but that was totally unnecessary. Guy literally throws her around like a rag doll, and she's probably half his weight.

Excessive force is an understatement.

[IGOTGAME]

I am as shocked as you are.

She had every opportunity to leave on her own. She declined.

You'd think her parents would have taught her to listen to authority.

Now someone is getting sued and her fam will get a nice 100k...she really lost this one.

[9erempiree]

Lets not forget that in the world of suing people and lawsuits, she may have purposely did this to get a pay day for her family.

[UK2K]

Now someone is getting sued and her fam will get a nice 100k...she really lost this one.

Welcome to America.

Clock Kid set the precedent. Do something stupid, get punished for it, and then cry victim.

The world we live in today. What can ya do?

[9erempiree]

Welcome to America.

Clock Kid set the precedent. Do something stupid, get punished for it, and then cry victim.

The world we live in today. What can ya do?

Totally agree about Clock Kid. Basically a prankster that got fame for using his ethnicity to defend his bomb hoax by saying it was a clock.

We've seen those YT videos where pranksters are provoking people and I believe Clock boy did the same. Thought it was funny to make a device that resembled a bomb.

[UK2K]

Totally agree about Clock Kid. Basically a prankster that got fame for using his ethnicity to defend his bomb hoax by saying it was a clock.

We've seen those YT videos where pranksters are provoking people and I believe Clock boy did the same. Thought it was funny to make a device that resembled a bomb.

And it worked like a charm.

That's where we are now in this country. This girl's mother probably high fived her as soon as she saw the video.

[ThePhantomCreep]

And it worked like a charm.

That's where we are now in this country. This girl's mother probably high fived her as soon as she saw the video.

Of course she did. :rolleyes:

Only an idiot conservative would think this kid masterminded getting ragdolled by a cop on camera.

[rufuspaul]

Another reason why I won't put my kid in public school.

[Patrick Chewing]

#BlackLivesMatter!




oh wait, she still alive??

[oarabbus]

They would just come into school the next day. Kill officer, teacher, classmates and themselves.


Nah white girls don't do that shit. Only white guys do that.

[UK2K]

Of course she did. :rolleyes:

Only an idiot conservative would think this kid masterminded getting ragdolled by a cop on camera.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

People try for it every day.

You act like is unheard of :confusedshrug:

[Rake2204]

I am not condoning the actions of this officer and I'm not asking this in a "Well, what else was he supposed to do?" manner, but what would have been the right way to handle a situation where a student is being defiant, refusing to leave the classroom, etc?

Obviously, "not bodyslamming them while they're in their desk" is an assumed answer, but what else?

Interestingly, my training as a teacher has always been really vague as to how to handle extreme classroom obstructions (fist fights, staunch refusal to leave classroom). I always heard horror stories of teachers getting fired if they made contact with a student while breaking up fights. And I was told I should call the police if a student seriously refused to leave the premises (during my work in a smaller, troubled youth setting). It'd seem that would suggest the officer would then be permitted to use some form of force?

[UK2K]

I am not condoning the actions of this officer and I'm not asking this in a "Well, what else was he supposed to do?" manner, but what would have been the right way to handle a situation where a student is being defiant, refusing to leave the classroom, etc?

Obviously, "not bodyslamming them while they're in their desk" is an assumed answer, but what else?

Interestingly, my training as a teacher has always been really vague as to how to handle extreme classroom obstructions (fist fights, staunch refusal to leave classroom). I always heard horror stories of teachers getting fired if they made contact with a student while breaking up fights. And I was told I should call the police if a student seriously refused to leave the premises (during my work in a smaller, troubled youth setting). It'd seem that would suggest the officer would then be permitted to use some form of force?

But if you call the police, leftists will say you're being too harsh and its just a wittle kid.

A former Marine I served with is now a cop. During the summer, a 14 year old kid shot at him and hit his car. 14.

That's why cops treat all people the same. They'll treat old people the same as young, as the same as drunk, or high, you don't know who you're touching or what they're capable of, so you treat everyone the same, because that keeps you alive.

Now, this little girl isn't a threat, but neither was that 14 year old kid who hit that dude's police cruiser either.

Could he have lifted her out of the desk? Maybe. And if she pulled away from him, then what? Then he can bodyslam her? Or he can't? He's not allowed to use a taser, so his only option is to remover her forcibly.

It's easy to sit back and say 'well I would have done this'. Half the people on this board, in a real officer's position, would be dead right now giving people the benefit of the doubt in numerous other situations I've seen on here. They're trained like they are for a reason, because it works.

Yeah he overreacted and will lose his job. The end. But honestly, if that was my son and he behaved like that, I'd give that officer a high five and then do much worse when the kid got home.

[ThePhantomCreep]

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

People try for it every day.

You act like is unheard of :confusedshrug:

So you're saying the girl faked this whole incident? What we saw didn't actually happen?

<slowly backs away from the right-wing nutjob>

[DukeDelonte13]

i just would have pushed the whole desk out of the room with her in it.

[longtime lurker]

As did mine.

Fact is, this would have never happened had she just done what she was asked to do. She didn't.

The end.

You better not have typed anything against Ray Rice knocking out his girlfriend you fvcking coward.

[longtime lurker]

I am not condoning the actions of this officer and I'm not asking this in a "Well, what else was he supposed to do?" manner, but what would have been the right way to handle a situation where a student is being defiant, refusing to leave the classroom, etc?

Obviously, "not bodyslamming them while they're in their desk" is an assumed answer, but what else?

Interestingly, my training as a teacher has always been really vague as to how to handle extreme classroom obstructions (fist fights, staunch refusal to leave classroom). I always heard horror stories of teachers getting fired if they made contact with a student while breaking up fights. And I was told I should call the police if a student seriously refused to leave the premises (during my work in a smaller, troubled youth setting). It'd seem that would suggest the officer would then be permitted to use some form of force?

It's obvious that one of the things that all cops should be doing is deescalating the situation. You talk to the girl and see what the hell is going on. It's crazy that black people aren't allowed to have a shitty day. Maybe there's issues at home, maybe she hasn't eaten all day, maybe some other shit. At worst you just drag the whole desk out of the room and leave her outside. You don't come into the situation like a 200 pound gorilla and immediately make the situation worse.

[Patrick Chewing]

I am not condoning the actions of this officer and I'm not asking this in a "Well, what else was he supposed to do?" manner, but what would have been the right way to handle a situation where a student is being defiant, refusing to leave the classroom, etc?




I've seen students knock out teachers and supervisors out cold, and the media or the ill-informed, dare ask was there any other way this could have been handled?? When the student loses all respect for the classroom, their teachers, the administrators, and for law enforcement, then appropriate measures need to be taken.

Let's be real, the invention of the cell phone, and the fact that it is allowed in class is the downfall of proper punishment and education.

If I were a parent and I sent my kids to school, I would expect them to behave and conduct themselves in a respectable manner. If I got wind that they were non-compliant in my expectations, the beating they would get at home would be 10x worse than this.

[imdaman99]

Welcome to America.

Clock Kid set the precedent. Do something stupid, get punished for it, and then cry victim.

The world we live in today. What can ya do?
Oh yeah? The clock kid set the precedent? :oldlol: Muslims settin trends in Murica :rockon:

[UK2K]

So you're saying the girl faked this whole incident? What we saw didn't actually happen?

<slowly backs away from the right-wing nutjob>

No, I didn't.

She certainty wasn't trying to avoid confrontation though, was she?

You missed again, keep swinging.

[UK2K]

You better not have typed anything against Ray Rice knocking out his girlfriend you fvcking coward.

Ray Rice isn't an authority figure, is he?

His fiance was also under no lawful obligation to do as she was told.

Anything else?

[longtime lurker]

Ray Rice isn't an authority figure, is he?

His fiance was also under no lawful obligation to do as she was told.

Anything else?

Please kindly shut the fvck up. Tough guy marine that endorses beating on little girls. No wonder you identify with cowards like this guy. Losers with inferiority complexes that lose their mind when their authority is challenged.

[longtime lurker]

I've seen students knock out teachers and supervisors out cold, and the media or the ill-informed, dare ask was there any other way this could have been handled?? When the student loses all respect for the classroom, their teachers, the administrators, and for law enforcement, then appropriate measures need to be taken.

Let's be real, the invention of the cell phone, and the fact that it is allowed in class is the downfall of proper punishment and education.

If I were a parent and I sent my kids to school, I would expect them to behave and conduct themselves in a respectable manner. If I got wind that they were non-compliant in my expectations, the beating they would get at home would be 10x worse than this.

The cop has a history of violence and abuse you nut bag. Maybe if police stopped protecting cops that weren't fit for duty these incidents wouldn't happen.

[Patrick Chewing]

The cop has a history of violence and abuse you nut bag. Maybe if police stopped protecting cops that weren't fit for duty these incidents wouldn't happen.


I didn't see abuse here you shitbird. I saw an undisciplined youth get a long overdue comeuppance.


Go back to your closet.

[GoatBoy]

Damn did anyone watch the part 2? That cop was swinging hella hard, but the kid was ducking him like Floyd Mayweather himself :eek:

[longtime lurker]

I didn't see abuse here you shitbird. I saw an undisciplined youth get a long overdue comeuppance.


Go back to your closet.

Of course you don't you're a conservative puppet :lol I forgot you don't have the capacity for critical thinking and developing your own opinions.

[NumberSix]

If this happened to a....

White Male Teen: Shoot up the school the next day

White Female Teen: Commit suicide

Black Male Teen: Organize a peaceful rally to combat abuse

Black Female Teen: Organize a peaceful rally to combat abuse
Actually, per capita, black guys commit the most school shootings.

[NumberSix]

Are dudes actually defending the cop? Like, really? :roll:

[AceManIII]

Are dudes actually defending the cop? Like, really? :roll:

Unbelievable, right?...:facepalm

[UK2K]

Please kindly shut the fvck up. Tough guy marine that endorses beating on little girls. No wonder you identify with cowards like this guy. Losers with inferiority complexes that lose their mind when their authority is challenged.
Why don't you cry about it?

Better yet, why are you not questioning the parenting of this kid who has zero respect for authority?

Cause it's a cop thing.

This will be the same kid in 5 years that's stealing shit out of your car.

[UK2K]

Are dudes actually defending the cop? Like, really? :roll:
Not one person in this thread said they though e the cop behaved appropriately.

So the answer to your question is no.

[UK2K]

So when he grabbed her, she actually tried to punch him in the face, twice?

So now a student who doesn't respect the officer, or the teacher obviously, is asked to leave by teacher, then an administrator, then the cop, disrupting the class for who knows how long, she won't, so the cop grabs her and she punches him?

Who raises their kids like that? Would you want your child going to school with someone like that? Absolutely no hope in life, her parents should be ashamed for bringing up a child, a girl especially, that behaves that way.

In a few years, she'll be 18, and that move will cost her years in jail. I hope she learns from this incident.

But we see, yet again, a different video shows up and changes the whole story.

[dude77]

that was nothing .. pulled her down and off the chair .. little brat thinks she doesn't have to answer to anyone .. give in to her shit and she will stay that way when she's older or probably be worse .. I bet you she listens and gets her ass up next time

[bluechox2]

so put yourself in his shoes...how are you gonna get that girl out of class? some form of force is gonna be used... that white cop needed all that just to yank her off her seat

i dont think any one of yall is gonna get a bratty girl to listen to you...the situation was created by her

then you get all of black society saying, he shouldnt have done that...well yall better educated your young black kids to obey the rules first

[Patrick Chewing]

so put yourself in his shoes...how are you gonna get that girl out of class? some form of force is gonna be used... that white cop needed all that just to yank her off her seat

i dont think any one of yall is gonna get a bratty girl to listen to you...the situation was created by her

then you get all of black society saying, he should have done that...well yall better educated your young black kids to obey the rules first


Finally. Someone else with some common sense. Obviously the teacher tried to get her out of class first and she would not listen. Then, she refused to listen to a police officer. Everyone knows that in order to diffuse any confrontation with authorities, you just simply do what they say. He wasn't arresting her to begin with.

People need to understand: THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT COMPLY.

[TripleA]

then you get all of black society saying, he shouldnt have done that...well yall better educated your young black kids to obey the rules first

#Peace not all blacks.

[ThePhantomCreep]

People need to understand: THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT COMPLY.

Sorry asshat, but you're wrong:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/

Cop suspended, and will probably be fired. Now tell me again how we treat people in the US?


Not one person in this thread said they though e the cop behaved appropriately.

So the answer to your question is no.

Check your firefox settings--it appears you have all your reich-wing friends on ignore.

[UK2K]

Finally. Someone else with some common sense. Obviously the teacher tried to get her out of class first and she would not listen. Then a school administrator came to the class to try to get her to leave. Then, she refused to listen to a police officer. Everyone knows that in order to diffuse any confrontation with authorities, you just simply do what they say. He wasn't arresting her to begin with.

People need to understand: THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT COMPLY.

You forgot one part of the story. I fixed it.

[UK2K]

Sorry asshat, but you're wrong:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/

Cop suspended, and will probably be fired. Now tell me again how we treat people in the US?



Check your firefox settings--it appears you have all your reich-wing friends on ignore.

That is how you treat people who don't comply.

That doesn't mean it was appropriate to throw her.

So, you're still wrong.

[PistonsFan#21]

Finally. Someone else with some common sense. Obviously the teacher tried to get her out of class first and she would not listen. Then, she refused to listen to a police officer. Everyone knows that in order to diffuse any confrontation with authorities, you just simply do what they say. He wasn't arresting her to begin with.

People need to understand: THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT COMPLY.

So now ragdolling and throwing kids across the classroom because they refuse to stand up is the way to deal with them? :wtf: I would think that there is a bit more maturity expected from an adult police officer than a teenage girl.

[BasedTom]

politics aside, did anyone else laugh?

anyway, the fat girl will probably get a trip to the white house and celebrity status from this, both undeserved.

[UK2K]

So now ragdolling and throwing kids across the classroom because they refuse to stand up is the way to deal with them? :wtf: I would think that there is a bit more maturity expected from an adult police officer than a teenage girl.

After she wouldn't leave for the teacher, she wouldn't leave for the administrator, she wouldn't leave for the cop, and when he tried to remove her, she hit him twice and attempted to bite him....

How would you have handled it?

Keep in mind, the entire class is doing everything but learning while you handle this situation. Lure her away with candy?

Let's hear it.

[PistonsFan#21]

After she wouldn't leave for the teacher, she wouldn't leave for the administrator, she wouldn't leave for the cop, and when he tried to remove her, she hit him twice and attempted to bite him....

How would you have handled it?

Keep in mind, the entire class is doing everything but learning while you handle this situation. Lure her away with candy?

Let's hear it.

When did that happen? I dont see it anywhere in the video, and i couldnt find any mention of that in the links posted here :confusedshrug:

Im pretty sure i could handcuff a small highschool girl if i was a trained cop double her age and twice her size without having to use excessive force. If not then maybe being a police officer isnt the right job for me.

[BasedTom]

When did that happen? I dont see it anywhere in the video, and i couldnt find any mention of that in the links posted here :confusedshrug:

Im pretty sure i could handcuff a small highschool girl if i was a trained cop double her age and twice her size without having to use excessive force. If not then maybe being a police officer isnt the right job for me.
there's more than 1 video of the event. there's one from another angle in the room and apparently before the cop flipped her over, the girl was swinging at the officer. another kid was arrested too in the aftermath

that's going by what's on the news, so it could be wrong idk

[UK2K]

When did that happen? I dont see it anywhere in the video, and i couldnt find any mention of that in the links posted here :confusedshrug:

Im pretty sure i could handcuff a small highschool girl if i was a trained cop double her age and twice her size without having to use excessive force. If not then maybe being a police officer isnt the right job for me.

Don't worry, I got you...

http://wspa.com/2015/10/27/new-video-shows-student-hitting-sro-during-controversial-arrest/


In the third video viewed by police, Lott said, it shows the girl hitting the officer in the head once he puts his hands on her: "There's no question about that."

But wait, there's more:


Lott also said he doesn't believe race was a factor in what happened — and noted that Fields has been dating an African-American woman for "quite some time."

Damn, so he isn't racist either? Fack. Now what?

I'll go a little more in depth though, cause many on this board has not had any prior law enforcement training, or any sort of training on how to subdue an non-compliant person.


As you can see here, the cop never applied a chokehold. A headlock- or any kind of head-control does not equal a chokehold. To subdue any person, you’ve got to control either the head, or the hips. Here we see him trying to control her head, but more importantly, contrary to the initial accusations, he did NOT flip her desk. See his hand? It’ on her pant-leg.


http://louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/ExhibitONE1-1024x1024.jpg

As he was trained. Control the head (the body will go where the head goes) control the hips (an off balance person is much easier to control). So, he didn't grab her desk and flip her like the Twitter world complained about.

So he did as he was trained, and he's not racist. Double fack.

Oh well, on to the next cop video taken out of context. Me? I'm just simply doing my part by spreading my knowledge of compliance techniques.

[PistonsFan#21]

Where is the attempt to bite that you are mentionning? Also who said anything about the cop being racist here? Dating an african american woman doesnt prove much by the way. Did you follow the story of the Clippers ex owner who was dating a dark skinned woman...yea we all know how this proved his non racist ways :lol

Obviously the cop wouldnt be on suspended leave if he did nothing wrong right? The police department itself claims it was unnecessary force being used so im not sure what the argument is all about.

[PistonsFan#21]

Also no he didn't "do as he was trained". I think you left out some key parts of what the County Sheriff Lott had to say:


"There's no justification for some of his actions," the sheriff told CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" late Tuesday.

"We want to de-escalate situations instead of escalate them. When you have somebody on fire you don't want to throw gasoline on them. You want to put the fire out," he said.

He wasn't trained to escalate situations and throw students several feet across the classroom because they dont comply

[dude77]

sheriff is just another ***** caving into the sjw mafia .. she needed to be extracted .. he didn't beat her .. he just took her by force .. she's being completely disrespectful and thinks that it's all about her .. completely self centered .. fix it now or she will be the same when she's older or worse .. it's not all about you .. you can't just disrupt class like that and fk everyone else's time up because you say so .. I bet you she complies next time and gets her ass up

[UK2K]

Also no he didn't "do as he was trained". I think you left out some key parts of what the County Sheriff Lott had to say:



He wasn't trained to escalate situations and throw students several feet across the classroom because they dont comply

He was asked, by school administrators, to remove her.

The 'violence' involved (he didn't throw her several feet, quit exaggerating) was her choice.

He removed her as officers are trained to remove non-compliant personnel. Obviously, because she is black and a high school female, and because this made national news, the department is going to say he was wrong. They're not stupid.


Lott also says, stunningly, that the teacher and assistant principal involved have given written statements in support of Officer Fields' actions.

The teacher and assistant principal have given WRITTEN STATEMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICER'S ACTIONS.

But since you were(n't) there, nor have you probably ever had any experience of any kind in this situation, your video analytical skills take precedence.

[UK2K]

sheriff is just another ***** caving into the sjw mafia .. she needed to be extracted .. he didn't beat her .. he just took her by force .. she's being completely disrespectful and thinks that it's all about her .. completely self centered .. fix it now or she will be the same when she's older or worse .. it's not all about you .. you can't just disrupt class like that and fk everyone else's time up because you say so .. I bet you she complies next time and gets her ass up

Like I said, 5 years from now she will be breaking into these posters cars while they sleep at night.

Teachers used to discipline. Now they're not allowed, so schools have SRO's instead. Now, apparently, they aren't even allowed to discipline.

We're raising a generation of hoodlums and degenerates, and nobody wants to stop it cause 'its too mean'.

Like I said, if that was my son, I'd high five this cop and then do much worse when I got him home. Never, ever, would I accept my child acting like that.

[Patrick Chewing]

Sorry asshat, but you're wrong:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/

Cop suspended, and will probably be fired. Now tell me again how we treat people in the US?



Did you go to public school? Maybe you're really just a rich white kid with no grasp on real life in the urban world. These kids do worse to each other.

Do you not understand that if you do not comply with authorities, then they have the legal right to restrain you just the way we see in this video?

What's the alternative then? Just sit there and ask her to get up over and over again till the bell rings?? GTFO here.

[UK2K]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/10/28/principal-body-slammed-cafeteria-fight.ktxl/video/playlists/caught-on-camera/

Perfect timing.

A sweet, innocent, young, full of love high school student body slamming the principal in the middle of a lunchroom brawl.

Some of you all just don't see the truth because you don't want to see it.

[BasedTom]

Did you go to public school? Maybe you're really just a rich white kid with no grasp on real life in the urban world. These kids do worse to each other.

Do you not understand that if you do not comply with authorities, then they have the legal right to restrain you just the way we see in this video?

What's the alternative then? Just sit there and ask her to get up over and over again till the bell rings?? GTFO here.
People have no fear of the consequences of their actions. Even going to prison is nothing...why would it be if half your friends are there and you're not expected to actually do anything? When going to prison is almost an eventuality or expectation in the climate they're brought up in?

Watch videos of police in Brazil...they don't **** around. Trigger happy mother****ers gun you down like it's nothing. None of that whiny bullshit you see here.

[PistonsFan#21]

He was asked, by school administrators, to remove her.

The 'violence' involved (he didn't throw her several feet, quit exaggerating) was her choice.

He removed her as officers are trained to remove non-compliant personnel. Obviously, because she is black and a high school female, and because this made national news, the department is going to say he was wrong. They're not stupid.



The teacher and assistant principal have given WRITTEN STATEMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICER'S ACTIONS.

But since you were(n't) there, nor have you probably ever had any experience of any kind in this situation, your video analytical skills take precedence.

Where is the attempt to bite that you put in there? Why you dodging this question the whole time? If there was no video evidence i wouldnt be surprised if somebody tried to say she was reaching for his gun too :oldlol:

Obviously the teacher and assistant principal are gonna support the officer's actions, they are the one that called him in for help and they couldnt give a shit about the student because she was giving them a hard time.

You seriously think this was the only way for him to remove her? If it was then there wouldnt be any mention of unnecessary force.

Im not excusing the girls behavior here or whatever she did to deserve being kicked out of the class. But if you think that cops are allowed to throw kids around because they dont listen then i dont know what to tell you. Should we allow cops to slam kindergarten kids that refuse to listen also? Or is there other ways to subdue someone thats clearly weaker than you without the use of excessive force?

[PistonsFan#21]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/10/28/principal-body-slammed-cafeteria-fight.ktxl/video/playlists/caught-on-camera/

Perfect timing.

A sweet, innocent, young, full of love high school student body slamming the principal in the middle of a lunchroom brawl.

Some of you all just don't see the truth because you don't want to see it.

What does this video have to do with the one posted in the OP other than both of them taken place at a school? :confusedshrug:

Is it the slamming part? in that case i agree with you that both the student in your video and the police officer from the OP should be expelled/fired for their aggressive behaviors and lack of critical judgement. The difference is that one is a stupid kid and the other one is a grown man thats supposed to protect you, hiding behind his badge

[Patrick Chewing]

What does this video have to do with the one posted in the OP other than both of them taken place at a school? :confusedshrug:

Is it the slamming part? in that case i agree with you that both the student in your video and the police officer from the OP should be expelled/fired for their aggressive behaviors and lack of critical judgement. The difference is that one is a stupid kid and the other one is a grown man thats supposed to protect you, hiding behind his badge


With all due respect, I think you're missing the point. The video he posted shows you what schools have to deal with on a daily basis. Had this been anyone else but a police officer, then I may have issue with it. But this was a police officer and she wasn't complying peacefully. I haven't seen the video where she strikes him, but once you cross that line of not listening directly to authority, then you encounter the wrath of a police officer who is not there to negotiate, not there to be your friend, not there to be your parent, not there to do anything else but eliminate the problem.

[longtime lurker]

What does this video have to do with the one posted in the OP other than both of them taken place at a school? :confusedshrug:

Is it the slamming part? in that case i agree with you that both the student in your video and the police officer from the OP should be expelled/fired for their aggressive behaviors and lack of critical judgement. The difference is that one is a stupid kid and the other one is a grown man thats supposed to protect you, hiding behind his badge

Forgive UK2K. He's not especially bright or clever. He acts like we don't have the actual video of what happened in the class. Ah well the cop is fired and him, Patrick Chewing and all the other resident ISH racists will have to find another outlet to live out their fantasy of abusing "ghetto bitches"

[Tarik One]

Damn did anyone watch the part 2? That cop was swinging hella hard, but the kid was ducking him like Floyd Mayweather himself :eek:
Dude had skills and made the officer look like a scrub.

[longtime lurker]

Did you go to public school? Maybe you're really just a rich white kid with no grasp on real life in the urban world. These kids do worse to each other.

Do you not understand that if you do not comply with authorities, then they have the legal right to restrain you just the way we see in this video?

What's the alternative then? Just sit there and ask her to get up over and over again till the bell rings?? GTFO here.

Rofl you think they don't deal with kids acting up in private school as well? Or are you too caught up in your pretend white bubble that you think that this kind of disruptions don't happen.

[UK2K]

Forgive UK2K. He's not especially bright or clever. He acts like we don't have the actual video of what happened in the class. Ah well the cop is fired and him, Patrick Chewing and all the other resident ISH racists will have to find another outlet to live out their fantasy of abusing "ghetto bitches"

No, we do have the actual video. You just only watched the one version you wanted to watch.

Maybe in your fantasy land, it is acceptable to disrupt a class, disobey a teacher, disobey a vice principal, and then strike an officer. :confusedshrug:

I hope your children have someone like this girl as a classmate.

The really shocking thing to me is that, if you want to be a cop hater, fine, you'll ignore everything else to hate, but not one of the cop haters in this thread is questioning the kids parents. That amazes me. Shocked.

[Patrick Chewing]

Rofl you think they don't deal with kids acting up in private school as well? Or are you too caught up in your pretend white bubble that you think that this kind of disruptions don't happen.


Private schools usually have smarter, more disciplined students generally, so I doubt both types of institutions have the same amount of disruptive behavior.

What fascinates me is how all of you have everything to say about the officer involved, but nothing to say about the actual creator of this situation, the girl herself. Nor do you have anything to say about the culture that leads to this type of behavior? What, afraid the PC police may come and get ya??

[LikeMike]

Raven Symone needs to stop voicing her opinion on these matters. She grew up more privileged than any white person I know, so she just sounds dumb when she blames the victim.

[UK2K]

Raven Symone needs to stop voicing her opinion on these matters. She grew up more privileged than any white person I know, so she just sounds dumb when she blames the victim.

Liberal buzz word!

The victims are the other students in class, the teacher, and the vice principal.

The girl was, quite obviously, the instigator. Here...

in

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=UK2K]Liberal buzz word!

The victims are the other students in class, the teacher, and the vice principal.

The girl was, quite obviously, the instigator. Here...

in

[TripleA]

I was listening to talk radio this morning on my commute to work and one caller called in and said the right thing to do would have been to remove the rest of the class from the class room, and then bring in additional officers.

Her reason for the removal of the rest of the class from the classroom was that perhaps the girl was too embarrassed to be taken away by the police officer. :facepalm

I just don't understand how there are people out there allowed to live without proper supervision. They have the ability to call into a radio program and spout off their insane opinions.

I have heard worse. Weak stuff.
People have said all Jews should die on the radio. That Obama is a Muslim on the radio. Radio is a medium were anyone can call in.
#Freedom of speech

[UK2K]

I was listening to talk radio this morning on my commute to work and one caller called in and said the right thing to do would have been to remove the rest of the class from the class room, and then bring in additional officers.

Her reason for the removal of the rest of the class from the classroom was that perhaps the girl was too embarrassed to be taken away by the police officer. :facepalm

I just don't understand how there are people out there allowed to live without proper supervision. They have the ability to call into a radio program and spout off their insane opinions.

Then shit would have gotten REALLY racist. No, he did exactly what he needed to do. Who knows, maybe this will be a wake up call for her? Maybe she'll change her ways? Hopefully, because based on her behavior in the video, she's heading straight for jail, and she probably doesn't even give a shit.

The teacher and the vice principal have no issues with how it was handled. Why? Because they know this behavior is common for this girl?

How embarrassed would you be if that was your child? I'd be mortified. Apparently, the armchair investigators on ISH are all too eager for their children to attend class with this girl.

[LikeMike]

[QUOTE=UK2K]Liberal buzz word!

The victims are the other students in class, the teacher, and the vice principal.

The girl was, quite obviously, the instigator. Here...

in

[Patrick Chewing]

So if she is shot to death, she isn't a victim because she instigated the situation?


Most people that get shot by cops instigated the situation by being a viable physical threat. If you don't want to be confronted by authority figures, don't do stupid shit. Period.

Leave the basement every now and then.

[UK2K]

So if she is shot to death, she isn't a victim because she instigated the situation?

If I put a gun to your head, and a cop shoots me, I am not the victim, YOU are the victim. If you break into a house, and are shot by the homeowner, you are not the victim, the homeowner is.

Are we getting it now?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Lol did anyone click on the part 2 video? The cop swinging at the kid and starting to fight him?

:oldlol: They were both black in that video, so no race card

[TripleA]

This shit is overplayed. No one will care in a week until a new story happens.

[ThePhantomCreep]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/10/28/principal-body-slammed-cafeteria-fight.ktxl/video/playlists/caught-on-camera/

Perfect timing.

A sweet, innocent, young, full of love high school student body slamming the principal in the middle of a lunchroom brawl.

Some of you all just don't see the truth because you don't want to see it.Perfect timing for what? Your deflection?

[Nick Young]

Is it true that in America some races statistically commit more crime proportionally to their population size than other races?:confusedshrug:

[Godzuki]

black people :facepalm

[UK2K]

Perfect timing for what? Your deflection?
What deflection?

We can continue on with this incident and I can point out how the cop did exactly as he was trained to do, and it won't make a bit of difference to you.

I can tell you the cop has the written support of the two adult educators that were present, and you won't care.

In your mind, you've already declared him guilty by the uniform he wears, so what's the point? The cop got fired because of the PC crowd, and the girl will return to class with an even bigger IDGAF attitude, and when she's ripping the GPS out of your car in the middle of the night, AFTER you call the police you despise, you'll think 'damn someone should have disciplined her'.

There's not much else to talk about.

I hope the other students learn at least something this year. She obviously won't, and doesn't care. Unfortunately for the rest of the kids, they have to deal with her for the next few months.

[IGOTGAME]

Is it true that in America some races statistically commit more crime proportionally to their population size than other races?:confusedshrug:

is it true Nick Young is a loser who sits at home typing nonsense in his Mom's basement? pretty easy to see.

Inferiority Complex is real

[Patrick Chewing]

Don't even bother with these clueless ****s anymore. I feel sorry for the future of this country.


No consideration is given to this man and his family now that he's lost his job. Meanwhile, she's not expelled that I know of and is taking advantage of free education. How in the world do you assclowns see this as a fair outcome??

[Draz]

Told my mom he's 100% getting fired and he did a few hours after I called it. Fcking fggt. I don't give a shit if the kid/girl wasn't cooperating, it's high school. You discipline them through academic probation not physically harm and become an offender in the process. Disgusting. He has a history too.

Edit: Wait till y'all have kids yourselves. You think your children will come out perfect? You never know god forbid they come out mentally deranged. Not that I agree with the female. But, their kids. You'd hope if that was your kid behaving like that, that there's a better way going around getting her to fcking do the right thing. It has to do with bad parenting I agree, but fck.

[Mike Armstrong]

If I put a gun to your head, and a cop shoots me, I am not the victim, YOU are the victim. If you break into a house, and are shot by the homeowner, you are not the victim, the homeowner is.

Are we getting it now?

So any instigator can be shot? Would shooting this student be OK because she was the instigator?

[Godzuki]

Told my mom he's 100% getting fired and he did a few hours after I called it. Fcking fggt. I don't give a shit if the kid/girl wasn't cooperating, it's high school. You discipline them through academic probation not physically harm and become an offender in the process. Disgusting. He has a history too.

Edit: Wait till y'all have kids yourselves. You think your children will come out perfect? You never know god forbid they come out mentally deranged. Not that I agree with the female. But, their kids. You'd hope if that was your kid behaving like that, that there's a better way going around getting her to fcking do the right thing. It has to do with bad parenting I agree, but fck.


the only thing disgusting are you idiots who make martyrs out of thugs, ghetto and unruly kids, and reward them for being the model of bad parenting playing the race card all of the time. always blaming the disciplinarian who gives them a hard smack instead of your soft expectation of a slap on their wrist. you're all enablers, you're bad parents, and ignorant about how awful some kids are and how they should be handled. every kid isn't your kid who might put gum on the sofa. y'all are a joke with how you expect these thugs and shitty rotten kids to be handled so soft :coleman:

sure they should just let her sit there and disrupt class for the rest of the day because obviously disciplining her with words works :rolleyes:

y'all mfers would be abused parents trying to handle these ghetto kids. GTFO here like all kids are like these hood rats.

[Patrick Chewing]

Told my mom he's 100% getting fired and he did a few hours after I called it. Fcking fggt. I don't give a shit if the kid/girl wasn't cooperating, it's high school. You discipline them through academic probation not physically harm and become an offender in the process. Disgusting. He has a history too.

Edit: Wait till y'all have kids yourselves. You think your children will come out perfect? You never know god forbid they come out mentally deranged. Not that I agree with the female. But, their kids. You'd hope if that was your kid behaving like that, that there's a better way going around getting her to fcking do the right thing. It has to do with bad parenting I agree, but fck.


This is high school man. If a teacher wants you out of the class, you need to get the hell out of the class. If a student doesn't comply, then they need to be removed by force. Otherwise, provide a different solution to removing the student. None of you have provided a different solution. You're just brainwashed into believing the cop is automatically the bad guy.

And if I had kids, I'd whoop their ass harder and longer if they acted like this degenerate. Proper parenting is not coddling or being their best friend. It's making sure they don't **** up in life cause they only get once chance to make it right.

[Patrick Chewing]

So any instigator can be shot? Would shooting this student be OK because she was the instigator?


:facepalm


Mother of God. He is proving the point that the instigator in this case is being portrayed as the victim. Not the other way around as it should be. Some of you are just dense as hell.

[Draz]

the only thing disgusting are you idiots who make martyrs out of thugs, ghetto and unruly kids, and reward them for being the model of bad parenting playing the race card all of the time. always blaming the disciplinarian who gives them a hard smack instead of your soft expectation of a slap on their wrist. you're all enablers, you're bad parents, and ignorant about how awful some kids are and how they should be handled. every kid isn't your kid who might put gum on the sofa. y'all are a joke with how you expect these thugs and shitty rotten kids to be handled so soft :coleman:

sure they should just let her sit there and disrupt class for the rest of the day because obviously disciplining her with words works :rolleyes:

y'all mfers would be abused parents trying to handle these ghetto kids. GTFO here like all kids are like these hood rats.
Lol dog. In my family you get bodied by parents growing up. I can play the same game you're playing with the beat the fck out of them and condition them to grow up the way you want them too. But at the same time THATS NOT YOUR KID YOU MORON. If it were, I guarantee you it'll be a different story. You'd bring the entire city down with you for a law suite. Act like what I'm saying is wrong. It's all good until your kid or your loved ones get touched up.

[Draz]

This is high school man. If a teacher wants you out of the class, you need to get the hell out of the class. If a student doesn't comply, then they need to be removed by force. Otherwise, provide a different solution to removing the student. None of you have provided a different solution. You're just brainwashed into believing the cop is automatically the bad guy.

And if I had kids, I'd whoop their ass harder and longer if they acted like this degenerate. Proper parenting is not coddling or being their best friend. It's making sure they don't **** up in life cause they only get once chance to make it right.
I agree with you on parenting. You obviously stated "if I had kids" to which you don't. You won't understand it until 15-20 years from now whenever you find yourself prone to circumstances like this to happening. I go to school every day picking my little sister up who's an angel, still waiting to hear the worst news something went wrong. You expect that from the good kids, what about from the bad kids and the parents that have to deal with it?

I have nothing wrong with beating the living hell out of your kid, sign me up. But, at the same time it's never normal to have someone, anyone, bodily harm a kid like that. Leave that to the parent.

[KellhitEmup15]

the only thing disgusting are you idiots who make martyrs out of thugs, ghetto and unruly kids, and reward them for being the model of bad parenting playing the race card all of the time. always blaming the disciplinarian who gives them a hard smack instead of your soft expectation of a slap on their wrist. you're all enablers, you're bad parents, and ignorant about how awful some kids are and how they should be handled. every kid isn't your kid who might put gum on the sofa. y'all are a joke with how you expect these thugs and shitty rotten kids to be handled so soft :coleman:

sure they should just let her sit there and disrupt class for the rest of the day because obviously disciplining her with words works :rolleyes:

y'all mfers would be abused parents trying to handle these ghetto kids. GTFO here like all kids are like these hood rats.

Look at this bitch taking about soft. You soft as putty. Your a ****ing joke people think your actually a retard.

[bluechox2]

its funny readying some of yall posts ...pussification of america's youth

[Draz]

its funny readying some of yall posts ...pussification of america's youth
I'm all for beating your own kid, but another man slams my daughter like that I'm not being released from jail.

[bluechox2]

I'm all for beating your own kid, but another man slams my daughter like that I'm not being released from jail.
so teach your kid proper soical etiquette ...

[KellhitEmup15]

Damn blacks angry about this kid getting tossed.
Other saying he what he did was ok.
Where I have seen this before.

[Bourne]

I'm going to chime in here.

What I see on one side are people trying to push their own view by taking a hard stance on disciplining, even though they know there was excessive force used.

On the other side, they are matched against people trying to push their own view by claiming the police officer only used excessive force because she was black.

The first side needs to acknowledge the officer, even if being struck, didn't need to used so much force. (it might even escalate the situation rather than resolve it)

The second side, which is completely ****ing stupid in their lack of logic and eagerness to be SJW, needs to shut the **** up and accept the facts of the case and argue excessive force not being justified. Shut up about it being a female, shut up about her age, shut up about her race.

[ThePhantomCreep]

so teach your kid proper soical etiquette ...

You really expect us to believe you'd be OK with a cop beating on your kid... for being bratty? Reichwingers are FOS.

This punishment only appears just to you because it was administered on a black kid. Let's not kid ourselves.

[Godzuki]

I'm going to chime in here.

What I see on one side are people trying to push their own view by taking a hard stance on disciplining, even though they know there was excessive force used.

On the other side, they are matched against people trying to push their own view by claiming the police officer only used excessive force because she was black.

The first side needs to acknowledge the officer, even if being struck, didn't need to used so much force. (it might even escalate the situation rather than resolve it)

The second side, which is completely ****ing stupid in their lack of logic and eagerness to be SJW, needs to shut the **** up and accept the facts of the case and argue excessive force not being justified. Shut up about it being a female, shut up about her age, shut up about her race.

Funny how u mfers never blame the initiator :lol:

Never the dumbass for resisting arrest...

Never the thug for robbing a convenience store...

Never the shitty kid who is going to defy authority until someone woops their ass.

It's always overlooking that to blame the excessive force used. And in reality u get nowhere with a lot of the anti authority brats without excessive force.

I'm 100% positive every one of u soft bitches would get stepped on trying to get these kids to do what u tell them without excessive force. Bet :pimp:

[bluechox2]

You really expect us to believe you'd be OK with a cop beating on your kid... for being bratty? Reichwingers are FOS.

This punishment only appears just to you because it was administered on a black kid. Let's not kid ourselves.
i am not raising my kids to go out and put themselves in a position to get their ass beat by cops...i would tell them to comply to the law, show them the right and wrongs...obviously she did something to provoke this situation, a cop didnt randomly come in class to body slam her

alot of yall are bringing up the black angle, i think if the kids gonna f uck around in class, disrupting the classroom by being an ass, prepare to learn the hard way... he/she can be black white mexican, idc. even if the cop was black and the kid was white, it would be alright

black people have this persona that they are untouchable, god forbid someone tells you to do something else, all hells gonna break loose

even my african friends tell me, what the fu ck is wrong with black america

[Godzuki]

You really expect us to believe you'd be OK with a cop beating on your kid... for being bratty? Reichwingers are FOS.

This punishment only appears just to you because it was administered on a black kid. Let's not kid ourselves.

So you don't blame your kid at all for initiating the whole incident right?

That seems to be the problem with so many black people these days. They never take any responsibility on their end of things and always trying to blame whitie, cops, teachers, etc.

[KellhitEmup15]

Funny how u mfers never blame the initiator :lol:

Never the dumbest for tes I sting arrest...

Never the thug for robbing a convenience store...

Never the shitty kid who is going to defy authority until someone woops their ass.

It's always overlooking that to blame the excessive force used. And in reality u get nowhere with a lot of the anti authority brats without excessive force.

I'm 100% positive every one of u soft bitches would get stepped on trying to get these kids to do what u tell them without excessive force. Bet :pimp:

I am 100% positive a soft fruit like you would get stomped like slug if you got confronted by anyone. A ****** who uses emojis like a bitch. This girl is stupid as hell and so is the cop for getting caught on tape and suplexing her. All I know you are the softest bitch here.

[longtime lurker]

the only thing disgusting are you idiots who make martyrs out of thugs, ghetto and unruly kids, and reward them for being the model of bad parenting playing the race card all of the time. always blaming the disciplinarian who gives them a hard smack instead of your soft expectation of a slap on their wrist. you're all enablers, you're bad parents, and ignorant about how awful some kids are and how they should be handled. every kid isn't your kid who might put gum on the sofa. y'all are a joke with how you expect these thugs and shitty rotten kids to be handled so soft :coleman:

sure they should just let her sit there and disrupt class for the rest of the day because obviously disciplining her with words works :rolleyes:

y'all mfers would be abused parents trying to handle these ghetto kids. GTFO here like all kids are like these hood rats.

Lmao. This is hilarious coming from the fool who lives in the suburbs and locks his doors when he sees black people. God damn. Compensating on the Internet for being a failure in life.

[bluechox2]

for those on the excessive force side, can you tell us how yall would have gotten her to leave class with you?

[longtime lurker]

I hope you guys that saying she deserved this stay consistent when stories of rape and domestic abuse like this show up. Just blame the victim to compensate for your backwards views. If there was a video of any adult slamming their own kids like they'd be facing charges of child abuse no question.

[Godzuki]

I am 100% positive a soft fruit like you would get stomped like slug if you got confronted by anyone. A ****** who uses emojis like a bitch. This girl is stupid as hell and so is the cop for getting caught on tape and suplexing her. All I know you are the softest bitch here.

Don't blame godzuki for bringing back your painful childhood memories :pimp:

[bluechox2]

I hope you guys that saying she deserved this stay consistent when stories of rape and domestic abuse like this show up. Just blame the victim to compensate for your backwards views. If there was a video of any adult slamming their own kids like they'd be facing charges of child abuse no question.

both your statements are contradictory

1. there is no similarity between a rape victim and parent abusing a child
2. nor with this girls civil disobedience

[KellhitEmup15]

Don't blame godzuki for bringing back your painful childhood memories :pimp:

What are even saying you retarded scum. I'm not even black.
You might be the stupidest person I have ever seen.

[Godzuki]

Lmao. This is hilarious coming from the fool who lives in the suburbs and locks his doors when he sees black people. God damn. Compensating on the Internet for being a failure in life.

Think about it this way u hood rat. If your parents wooped your ass and taught u to respect people maybe you'd be posting on ISH from the suburbs like Godzuki instead of the roach infested projects angry at the whites and azns :pimp:

[KellhitEmup15]

Think about it this way u hood rat. If your parents wooped your ass and taught u to respect people maybe you'd be posting on ISH from the suburbs like Godzuki instead of the roach infested projects angry at the whites and azns :pimp:

Funny coming you ****** taking about respect. Your probably some obese turd living in your basement.

[GIF REACTION]

Tossed that hoe like a trash bag!

[Godzuki]

What are even saying you retarded scum. I'm not even black.
You might be the stupidest person I have ever seen.

U might not be but it's obvious u want to be fgt ass fgt :pimp:

PS I'm waaaay smarter than some follow the herd PC simpleton like yourself. Good luck getting your GED!

[BasedTom]

I hope you guys that saying she deserved this stay consistent when stories of rape and domestic abuse like this show up. Just blame the victim to compensate for your backwards views. If there was a video of any adult slamming their own kids like they'd be facing charges of child abuse no question.
http://leeclarion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nick-young-confused-face.jpg

How do you equate (allegedly) hitting a cop, disrupting the peace, and refusing to cooperate with the life changing tragedies of rape and domestic abuse? There's a set of standard behaviour you have to abide with when you're in public, not even laws just common ****ing sense and common ****ing courtesy....clearly this girl has no respect or understanding of that.

How can you make her a martyr, or some sort of civil rights activist? I agree that police need to be more conscious of not applying excessive force, but the girl was like 400 lbs and probably mouthing off like a lunatic. We all know how it is with some of these people...Lots of them could give zero ****s about being in school or taking advantage of the opportunity to get an education, and that's sad but fine, but going above and beyond to ruin shit for other people is just inexcusable. Stay home if you're going to do that.

If I were the teacher, I would have called the fat bitch's parents or parent, and hope they come in with a belt and inspire the fear and discipline which they clearly lack.

[Godzuki]

Funny coming you ****** taking about respect. Your probably some obese turd living in your basement.

This corny ass mfer using turd :roll: :roll:

[bluechox2]

http://leeclarion.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/nick-young-confused-face.jpg

How do you equate (allegedly) hitting a cop, disrupting the peace, and refusing to cooperate with the crimes of rape and domestic abuse? There's a set of standard behaviour you have to abide with when you're in public, not even laws just common ****ing sense and common ****ing courtesy....clearly this girl has no respect or understanding of that.

How can you make her a martyr, or some sort of civil rights activist? I agree that police need to be more conscious of not applying excessive force, but the girl was like 400 lbs and probably mouthing off like a lunatic. We all know how it is with some of these people...Lots of them could give zero ****s about being in school or taking advantage of the opportunity to get an education, and that's sad but fine, but going above and beyond to ruin shit for other people is just inexcusable. Stay home if you're going to do that.

If I were the teacher, I would have called the fat bitch's parents or parent, and hope they come in with a belt and inspire the fear and discipline which they clearly lack.

problem with that is, most of these parents also come in with a sense of entitlement that their kid should be fine to do whatever, its the teachers fault for not accommodating their disruptive behavior

[KellhitEmup15]

U might not be but it's obvious u want to be fgt ass fgt :pimp:

PS I'm waaaay smarter than some follow the herd PC simpleton like yourself. Good luck getting your GED!

I'm a registered republican you reaching idiot. The girl was stupid for not listening to the teacher. How about you stop talking you brainless ******.

[KellhitEmup15]

This corny ass mfer using turd :roll: :roll:

You have picture of a anime girl as your avatar. That might the weirdest thing I have seen you virgin. Every touched a woman bitch.

[longtime lurker]

both your statements are contradictory

1. there is no similarity between a rape victim and parent abusing a child
2. nor with this girls civil disobedience

I'm making two separate statements.
1. Victim blaming is victim blaming no matter the case. I'm sure all these guys were jumping to Ray Rice's defense when he knocked out his girlfriend despite the fact that she assaulted him as well. It's funny the "let's wait till all the facts" side was quiet on that incident.

2. Same context and replace the officer with a parent and they'd be complete outrage saying this is child abuse. The fact that the adult in this situation has a badge doesn't justify his actions. The distinction of Excessive force exists for a good reason other wise police would just beat up and kill anyone that challenged their authority.

[Patrick Chewing]

for those on the excessive force side, can you tell us how yall would have gotten her to leave class with you?


It's laughable how not one person has provided an alternative scenario yet. All these internet scholars and law professors and they can't even answer one simple question.

[Patrick Chewing]

I hope you guys that saying she deserved this stay consistent when stories of rape and domestic abuse like this show up. Just blame the victim to compensate for your backwards views. If there was a video of any adult slamming their own kids like they'd be facing charges of child abuse no question.


Man you are so ****ing dumb I almost feel the need to donate to some charity in hopes some way, somehow, that money reaches you and it makes a difference in your life.

The man in the video removing the girl from the desk is an officer of the law. They have the legal right to use force if you are not complying. Therefore, your asinine comparison to child abuse or domestic abuse has no basis in this case. If you fail to comply, an officer can physically restrain you.

Just come out and admit it that the only reason you're here crying your eyes out over this case is because it's a white guy versus a minority. Had it been any other way, you'd still be fapping away in your grandmother's basement to Victoria's Secret catalogs you silly mook bastard.

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Man she slid like a bowling ball

OWNED!

[longtime lurker]

How do you equate (allegedly) hitting a cop, disrupting the peace, and refusing to cooperate with the life changing tragedies of rape and domestic abuse?

It's called victim blaming dumb ass and its always used shift the blame every time a black person has a confrontation with the law.


There's a set of standard behaviour you have to abide with when you're in public, not even laws just common ****ing sense and common ****ing courtesy....clearly this girl has no respect or understanding of that.

And guess what not everyone is going to abide by a set of standards all the 100% of the time every time they're in public. A supposedly trained officer should recognize that he's in a school environment and act accordingly.


How can you make her a martyr, or some sort of civil rights activist?

Yes having empathy for a young girl that could have been seriously injured because of a roided out moron is wrong some how? Maybe I just don't see black girl and automatically assume that she deserves to be assaulted. But maybe that's just me.


I agree that police need to be more conscious of not applying excessive force, but the girl was like 400 lbs and probably mouthing off like a lunatic.
Hey dumbass the girl wasn't mouthing off. By all accounts she was a quiet kid. All she did was refuse to give up her phone and get up out of her seat. It's funny that you somehow make up some caricature of some violent beast while we both know she's 80 Ibs at best and you conveniently ignore the ****ing 250 maniac that bench presses 600 Ibs but can't handle a little girl. How about you do some research before you post.


We all know how it is with some of these people...Lots of them could give zero ****s about being in school or taking advantage of the opportunity to get an education, and that's sad but fine, but going above and beyond to ruin shit for other people is just inexcusable. Stay home if you're going to do that.

These people huh? Funny you make assumptions because you see a black girl, but if you actually did some research before providing your idiotic commentary you'd see that her classmates said she was a quiet kid. Furthermore both her mother and grand mother had died earlier in the year, hmm maybe that might have contributed to her acting out. Oh shit I forgot its not okay to black people to have regular emotions.



If I were the teacher, I would have called the fat bitch's parents or parent, and hope they come in with a belt and inspire the fear and discipline which they clearly lack.

Wow you're a classy dude. Endorsing child abuse. I guess you can say what you want when you post from the safety of your parent's basement.

[Blue&Orange]

The fact that an adult black dude was there and apparently was ok with what was happening make the cries of racism kinda meh.

[longtime lurker]

The man in the video removing the girl from the desk is an officer of the law. They have the legal right to use force if you are not complying. Therefore, your asinine comparison to child abuse or domestic abuse has no basis in this case. If you fail to comply, an officer can physically restrain you.


Really so why does excessive force exist? Why don't all officers just beat/tazer or kill anyone that doesn't comply with their requests? It's funny that you idiot conservatives don't want the government in your lives, but you have no problem with them abusing children in school. Seriously don't reproduce.

[bluechox2]

I'm making two separate statements.
1. Victim blaming is victim blaming no matter the case. I'm sure all these guys were jumping to Ray Rice's defense when he knocked out his girlfriend despite the fact that she assaulted him as well. It's funny the "let's wait till all the facts" side was quiet on that incident.

2. Same context and replace the officer with a parent and they'd be complete outrage saying this is child abuse. The fact that the adult in this situation has a badge doesn't justify his actions. The distinction of Excessive force exists for a good reason other wise police would just beat up and kill anyone that challenged their authority.

you cant seem to make good comparisons...


there would be outrage if a parent is abusing the child...wtf


police would just beat up and kill anyone that challenged their authority.

your assuming that the police just felt like knocking out this girl...come one...
he was called in to remove her from class

[Patrick Chewing]

Really so why does excessive force exist? Why don't all officers just beat/tazer or kill anyone that doesn't comply with their requests? It's funny that you idiot conservatives don't want the government in your lives, but you have no problem with them abusing children in school. Seriously don't reproduce.


I don't think you watched the video to be honest. You can't be this blind.

1. There was no "beating"
2. There was no "tazing"
3. There was no "killing"

Those three examples that you yourself wrote in your reply all qualify as excessive force! And if you watch the video, none of that happened! So i suggest you get off the keyboard and watch the video and stop looking like a clown.

[longtime lurker]

you cant seem to make good comparisons...

ray rice would have been the officer, and the girlfriend would be the school girl...get the sides correct

and there would be outrage if a parent is abusing the child...wtf

Yeah you're obviously not getting this because you're just all over the place. I don't feel like explaining myself a third time because you obviously understand the comparison but you're trying your best not make it seem valid.



your assuming that the police just felt like knocking out this girl...come one...
he was called in to remove her from class

So again maybe you should research and get your facts straight before posting an idiotic opinion. The officer had a history of excessive force and targeting black students. He didn't go in there with the intention of knocking her out but like all officers he got pissed over 2 things:
1) Someone challenged his authority and
2) A black person who he thinks should be subservient to him didn't comply.

Removing her from the class and using excessive force are two different things. The guy can bench press 600 Ibs and he literally could have picked up her desk with her in it and put her in the hallway. Then we'd all be laughing about this incident, he'd still have a job and she would have learned her lesson.

[longtime lurker]

I don't think you watched the video to be honest. You can't be this blind.

1. There was no "beating"
2. There was no "tazing"
3. There was no "killing"

Those three examples that you yourself wrote in your reply all qualify as excessive force! And if you watch the video, none of that happened! So i suggest you get off the keyboard and watch the video and stop looking like a clown.

So if this doesn't qualify as excessive force(it does) then why is this officer out of a job? And try to give me a reason other than your right wing garbage of an overly PC culture. Seriously try and come up with something original.

[Blue&Orange]

I don't think you watched the video to be honest. You can't be this blind.

1. There was no "beating"
2. There was no "tazing"
3. There was no "killing"

Those three examples that you yourself wrote in your reply all qualify as excessive force! And if you watch the video, none of that happened! So i suggest you get off the keyboard and watch the video and stop looking like a clown.
Anyone who watches that video and thinks there wasn't excessive force is a full fledged retard. Nobody expects anything different from you by now. It's like "Mommy daddy look, the retard is being retard again, can i pet him?"

[Patrick Chewing]

So if this doesn't qualify as excessive force(it does) then why is this officer out of a job? And try to give me a reason other than your right wing garbage of an overly PC culture. Seriously try and come up with something original.


First off, are you in law enforcement? So you can't say for sure that this is excessive force or not. Better yet, why don't you watch a few episode of Cops and see what happens when people refuse to comply with cops. There's plenty of episodes where the perpetrator doesn't want to come out of the car. Guess what? The cop goes in there and forcefully removes them.

Where's your outrage? Oh wait, it's a show called "Cops" so it's ok right??

In this instance, it's a poor, young black girl versus a mean white cop and lately the media has been painting this fantasy narrative that white cops have it out for black people. Hook, line, and sinker.

I'm done with you, son. You've got blinders on.

[BasedTom]

It's called victim blaming dumb ass and its always used shift the blame every time a black person has a confrontation with the law.
Every time? So are you implying that it is categorically never the "victim's" fault? As if literally every one of them in prison is innocent and unjustly apprehended? I wonder if you would share those sentiments with the family members and living victims of countless crimes in this country. Crimes that occur considerably more often than these supposed racially-charged confrontations.




And guess what not everyone is going to abide by a set of standards all the 100% of the time every time they're in public. A supposedly trained officer should recognize that he's in a school environment and act accordingly.
True, but there are various degrees in doing that, and I can tell you that the vast majority of people out in public can go out and live their normal lives without having the cops called on them, or appearing on worldstar or youtube...It isn't that difficult. And people deal with all kinds of stressful shit or have them ingrained in their memory, stuff far more traumatic than having the teacher call you out for using your phone and wanting to confiscate it.



Yes having empathy for a young girl that could have been seriously injured because of a roided out moron is wrong some how? Maybe I just don't see black girl and automatically assume that she deserves to be assaulted. But maybe that's just me.
Empathy? You're right, I don't. I honestly can not imagine a situation in my school days in which the police had to be called in, and deemed it necessary to perform a takedown on me. Or even seeing that happen to a classmate. It's a world completely foreign to me- and I had plenty of black classmates that some people would consider "ghetto" or whatever. You do dumb shit, you deal with the consequences. Making a huge scene accomplishes nothing and only makes your side of the argument more difficult to take seriously. Funny how you accuse me of all these judgements on people, yet here you are in absolute terms calling out cops as roided out morons or pretending anybody is saying shit about black people deserving to be assaulted...


Hey dumbass the girl wasn't mouthing off. By all accounts she was a quiet kid. All she did was refuse to give up her phone and get up out of her seat. It's funny that you somehow make up some caricature of some violent beast while we both know she's 80 Ibs at best and you conveniently ignore the ****ing 250 maniac that bench presses 600 Ibs but can't handle a little girl. How about you do some research before you post.
I wasn't there; I don't know her personally, I can't say I know for sure. But she looks like a fat spoiled bitch from what I'm seeing


These people huh? Funny you make assumptions because you see a black girl, but if you actually did some research before providing your idiotic commentary you'd see that her classmates said she was a quiet kid. Furthermore both her mother and grand mother had died earlier in the year, hmm maybe that might have contributed to her acting out. Oh shit I forgot its not okay to black people to have regular emotions.
Never said a word about black people, yet your post is laden with accusations and implications to the contrary. I was talking about low class people who are raised in a climate where there is no respect or consideration for others, no responsibility for one's own actions, little regard for the institutions of education. The Low class. Some of these people are black, yes, that's just their circumstances and history. Like I said earlier, tons of black people, many from these rough backgrounds manage to go through high school without incidents like this in the classroom...like respectable people who were raised right. Having bad things happen to you in the past or seeing it around you doesn't give you license to disregard the world around you, the law, etc.




Wow you're a classy dude. Endorsing child abuse. I guess you can say what you want when you post from the safety of your parent's basement.
lol again with the accusations and judgements. Ad hominem galore. Is that how you rationalise your beliefs that seek to refuse holding your select group of people accountable for their actions, yet placing that same burden on everyone else?

[Blue&Orange]

an adult perpetrator that doesn't want to come out the car = girl in school being thrown around in the floor.


Keep going dude, there's no limit to stupidity.


Not even mention that since when dragging people out of cars is ok.

"Cops Drag Man Out of His Car and Push His Face Into Snow for Asking Them Why He Was Pulled Over"

is this ok?

"Police officer drags man out of car seconds before trains smashes into it"

is this ok?


oh the retard is not only using a retard argument but a incredible generic one that can be justified or not?

[UK2K]

I hope you guys that saying she deserved this stay consistent when stories of rape and domestic abuse like this show up. Just blame the victim to compensate for your backwards views. If there was a video of any adult slamming their own kids like they'd be facing charges of child abuse no question.

You're missing the whole point. None of this would have happened had she just done as she was told by the teacher. Or by the vice principal. None of this. Call it what you want, but none of this had to take place. She didn't even need to do anything exemplary, she just needed to do what the other 20 students were doing

If it was as simple as hugging it out and having s chat, the officer would have never even been called.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

[TheMan]

Finally. Someone else with some common sense. Obviously the teacher tried to get her out of class first and she would not listen. Then, she refused to listen to a police officer. Everyone knows that in order to diffuse any confrontation with authorities, you just simply do what they say. He wasn't arresting her to begin with.

People need to understand: THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT COMPLY.
Maybe in Cuba but (in a bad Cuban accent) no etamos en Cuba hermano
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[Draz]

Yall acting like you tried kicking this little girl out your class or something

[KNOW1EDGE]

Campus safety officer? -That didn't seem very safe to me.

Tf is wrong with that school? No possible excuse is acceptable for that. None. You don't beat up kids. There is a right and wrong way to restrain or apprehend a child and that was incorrect.

The girl shoyld have just complied with what was being asked but I know I didn't when I was a kid and nobody tossed me around my classroom after putting me in a chokehold.

[FreezingTsmoove]

I'm sorry but if I'm waking up 5-6 a.m in the morning to get to school and LEARN I am not trying to go to school and put up with a ghetto bitch who doesn't want to learn but is only there to disrupt the class.

Notice how NO ONE tries to help her out. Guarantee everyone in that class is fed up and tired with her shit.

Seriously no one helped her at all that shows A LOT

She deserved it and I bet she wont try shit like that again.

[InfiniteBaskets]

You're missing the whole point. None of this would have happened had she just done as she was told by the teacher. Or by the vice principal. None of this. Call it what you want, but none of this had to take place. She didn't even need to do anything exemplary, she just needed to do what the other 20 students were doing

If it was as simple as hugging it out and having s chat, the officer would have never even been called.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

But we're all human and we've all done stupid things before. Are you saying you've NEVER been scolded by a teacher or authority figure before?

I used to act out in class all the time as a kid, in large part due to pure boredom. They'd put me in detention or a teacher might yell at me, I eventually decide it's not worth the trouble of disrupting the classroom for the sake of eliciting a few class room laughs so I knocked that kind of stuff off later on.

If a cop came in the first time I made a wisecrack while the teacher was up front teaching and body slammed my ass to the ground would I have knocked it off a whole lot sooner? Sure but then I'm changing my behavior out of fear not because I actually understand why my behavior is wrong. Now if I were actually running around school with a weapon or something? Sure take no chances and neutralize me first, but I don't see any initial escalation of violence.

The officer could have secured both her arms first and then pulled her out of her seat and escort her out. If she's still putting up a fight cuff her first. I've seen much more rowdy drunken sports fans get apprehended by cops in a less forceful manner.

What officers in these times need are accepted standards and training for how to handle cases where something like this could go viral. Basically anything in public that's interesting and takes more than 10 seconds to develop is going to be captured on a smartphone these days so as an officer, you need to be prepared for that and as an industry in general police departments around the country need to demonstrate to officers how to avoid situations like this.

[BRabbiT]

Excessive:wtf:

[dunksby]

You're missing the whole point. None of this would have happened had she just done as she was told by the teacher. Or by the vice principal. None of this. Call it what you want, but none of this had to take place. She didn't even need to do anything exemplary, she just needed to do what the other 20 students were doing

If it was as simple as hugging it out and having s chat, the officer would have never even been called.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
She is a kid, that's what you are missing, when I was in school nobody called the ****ing police when I or some other student decided to act out or make trouble. I still had problems with authority one year into my service, and I was in my twenties, you keep repeating this rhetoric like we are talking about an adult who refused to follow police command.

[UK2K]

But we're all human and we've all done stupid things before. Are you saying you've NEVER been scolded by a teacher or authority figure before?

I used to act out in class all the time as a kid, in large part due to pure boredom. They'd put me in detention or a teacher might yell at me, I eventually decide it's not worth the trouble of disrupting the classroom for the sake of eliciting a few class room laughs so I knocked that kind of stuff off later on.

If a cop came in the first time I made a wisecrack while the teacher was up front teaching and body slammed my ass to the ground would I have knocked it off a whole lot sooner? Sure but then I'm changing my behavior out of fear not because I actually understand why my behavior is wrong. Now if I were actually running around school with a weapon or something? Sure take no chances and neutralize me first, but I don't see any initial escalation of violence.

The officer could have secured both her arms first and then pulled her out of her seat and escort her out. If she's still putting up a fight cuff her first. I've seen much more rowdy drunken sports fans get apprehended by cops in a less forceful manner.

What officers in these times need are accepted standards and training for how to handle cases where something like this could go viral. Basically anything in public that's interesting and takes more than 10 seconds to develop is going to be captured on a smartphone these days so as an officer, you need to be prepared for that and as an industry in general police departments around the country need to demonstrate to officers how to avoid situations like this.

She was asked by the teacher to put her cell phone away. She was asked by the teacher to leave. The teacher then called the vice principal, who asked her to leave. Then the officer was called, and he asked her to leave.

You're trying to make it seem like she made a joke so they called in an officer to choke slam her.

There were 20 other kids doing what they were supposed to be doing, who I'm sure, were trying to learn.

No excuse for her behavior. None.

As for the second bolded part, the first thing she did when he grabbed her was start throwing punches and kicking. So... he tried to give her a hug, as you suggested, but that doesn't work in real life.

[UK2K]

She is a kid, that's what you are missing, when I was in school nobody called the ****ing police when I or some other student decided to act out or make trouble. I still had problems with authority one year into my service, and I was in my twenties, you keep repeating this rhetoric like we are talking about an adult who refused to follow police command.

Exactly right. A kid in school.

And yet, you keep going on about the officer like she didn't instigate all of this? By not listening to her adult educators. She is a kid, and as a kid, she needs to behave like a kid.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[dunksby]

Exactly right. A kid in school.

And yet, you keep going on about the officer like she didn't instigate all of this? By not listening to her adult educators. She is a kid, and as a kid, she needs to behave like a kid.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You are acting like a kid too, keep repeating the exact same thing like a stubborn child. :lol

[UK2K]

You are acting like a kid too, keep repeating the exact same thing like a stubborn child. :lol

Good one. :confusedshrug:

[UK2K]

Spring Valley students stage walkout in support of Ben Fields

Hundreds of students walked out of class around 10 a.m. and into the school's atrium before school administrators returned the students to class.

Principal Jeff Temoney told the students none of them would be suspended if they returned to class.

Video and photos from the incident captured by students show many of them saying "Free Fields" or wearing T-shirts that say "#BringBackFields."

Figured I'd give you all an update. Cop haters and race baiters wont care, but some of you probably will.

http://m.wistv.com/wistv/db_330790/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=jjM547yP

[dunksby]

Figured I'd give you all an update. Cop haters and race baiters wont care, but some of you probably will.

http://m.wistv.com/wistv/db_330790/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=jjM547yP
Good on the students, gotta learn to stand up for what they believe and not just post stuff on the net.

[Godzuki]

sad reality is if this were a white girl half of you wouldnt be defending her and the media wouldnt be making the story out of it :coleman:

black people have the mainstream soft ass PC sheep in the palm of their hand. so many bitches in this country :sleeping

[ThePhantomCreep]

sad reality is if this were a white girl half of you wouldnt be defending her and the media wouldnt be making the story out of it :coleman:

black people have the mainstream soft ass PC sheep in the palm of their hand. so many bitches in this country :sleeping

Don't worry, St0rmfront still caters to your views. You'll always have them.

[NumberSix]

Don't worry, St0rmfront still caters to your views. You'll always have them.
I've never heard of this from anyone except leftists. He like the lefts version of Saul Alinsky. The right wing always talks about "you're spewing Saul Alinsky talking points" but 9x out of 10, the left wingers don't even know who the hell Saul Alinsky is.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I've never heard of this from anyone except leftists. He like the lefts version of Saul Alinsky. The right wing always talks about "you're spewing Saul Alinsky talking points" but 9x out of 10, the left wingers don't even know who the hell Saul Alinsky is.

Then have the right-wingers who infest that board tell you all about.

Godzuki is an obvious bigot, yet you're going after me. Saya a lot about what a partisan hack you are.

[Godzuki]

Then have the right-wingers who infest that board tell you all about.

Godzuki is an obvious bigot, yet you're going after me. Saya a lot about what a partisan hack you are.


if bigot is code for honest and not PC then i sure am :pimp:

lets be real, the american mainstream left is brainwashed and guilt tripped by black people to the point they constantly play and get away with double standards.

so many mainstream mf'ers are dumb as fukk tho with so little self thinking capabilities to see that, and completely buy into the mainstream guilt trip servitude to black people for the slavery days. and so many black people forever use it in every way imaginable to pretend they're so unfairly persecuted.

its silly how much of a stupid follower the average person is, including the bitch ass ISH mod banning people for being straight up. fukkin fgt :coleman:

[Draz]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshht3O60M4NzO4w8j17