Carmelo shooting 14 of 43 through first 2 games

[Akrazotile]

Exceeding my expectations, tbh. Good for him.


I can see why he's always been Kobe's favorite player. :applause:

[MellowYellow]

Coming off an injury struggling just like durant

[GrapeApe]

You miss 100% of the shot you don't take. Melo only misses 77% of the shots he does take. The math checks out.

[LoneyROY7]

Coming off an injury struggling just like durant

Except he's not near the player KD is anymore.

[4 Inches]

Coasting

[MellowYellow]

Melo 18/6/4 on 33% durant 22/6/0 32%

[MellowYellow]

Except he's not near the player KD is anymore.
Neither is kd from what I've seen

[LoneyROY7]

Melo 18/6/4 on 33% durant 22/6/0 32%

:roll:

Melo isn't on the same level. Deal.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Melo 18/6/4 on 33% durant 22/6/0 32%

Durant was guarded by Kawhi, Melo was guarded by who, Bazemore and Copeland? **** outta here.

[MellowYellow]

Durant was guarded by Kawhi, Melo was guarded by who, Bazemore and Copeland? **** outta here.
Middleton is a great defender

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Middleton is a great defender

Compared to Kawhi? No.

[MellowYellow]

Compared to Kawhi? No.
Westbrook was setting up open looks for kd all game melo doesn't have someone like that

[Donkey4trading]

Westbrook was setting up open looks for kd all game melo doesn't have someone like that


Melo is extremely underrated

[oarabbus]

Westbrook was setting up open looks for kd all game melo doesn't have someone like that


Are you really trying to argue that Melo is as good, or even close to as good as KD? Are you really arguing that? Is that truly the point you're trying to make? You seriously would like us to believe that? We are actually to conclude that based upon your statements?

[Kidbasketball20]

Coming off an injury struggling just like durant


Shut the **** up :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tontoz]

Melo took far more shots than any two of his teamates combined. :applause:

[sd3035]

Carmelo is a useless POS D-league caliber chucker

He'll be in China or on a street corner in a few years

[VengefulAngel]

Compared to Kawhi? No.

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.

[Optimus Prime]

"Best scorer in the league!" according to many ISHiots and talking heads on LeSPN.

:roll:

Lakers will probably trade for him this season or next off season though...

:facepalm

[CarlosBoozer]

What ever happened to the knicks? They were pretty good just a few seasons ago!

[aj1987]

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.
I'm not really big on stats when it comes to defense, but nba.com has player tracking stats. Last season, players attempted 9.2 shots a game while being defended by Kawhi and made 4 of them at 44.2%, compared to 44.6% while being defended by others. Kawhi decreased their production by 0.4%.

Chris Middleton defended the same number of shots a game, but players only made 3.6 of their shots against him at 39.5%, compared to 43.9% against others. A difference of 4.3%.

As I said, stats are not to be trusted while evaluating defense. Take it for what it's worth.

[VengefulAngel]

I'm not really big on stats when it comes to defense, but nba.com has player tracking stats. Last season, players attempted 9.2 shots a game while being defended by Kawhi and made 4 of them at 44.2%, compared to 44.6% while being defended by others. Kawhi decreased their production by 0.4%.

Chris Middleton defended the same number of shots a game, but players only made 3.6 of their shots against him at 39.5%, compared to 43.9% against others. A difference of 4.3%.

As I said, stats are not to be trusted while evaluating defense. Take it for what it's worth.

Can i have linky?, i am really interested in seeing some more of these stats. :)

[dunksby]

Actually it's quite close.


When comparing their defensive (real) plus or minus it's a lot closer than you might think.


Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 2.98 (ORPM) 4.59 (DRPM) 7.57 (RPM) (WAR)12.67

Khris Middleton, SF MIL 1.97(ORPM) 4.09 (DRPM) 6.06 (RPM)
(WAR) 12.42

Looking at DWS:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/middlkh01.html


Khris Middleton: DWS: 3.5

Kawhi Leonard: DWS: 4.4


Kawhi Leonard:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 12%
Block % 1.8%
Steal % 3.4%
Defensive +/- +3.5

Khris Middleton:

DEFENSE/REBOUNDING
Rebound % 8%
Block % 0.5%
Steal % 2.3%
Defensive +/- +0.5


The last bunch of statistics, is a little bit misleading as it is the weighted average of the last 3 seasons, Kawhi has been more established and thus has been more consistent.
That ain't close dude :oldlol:

[Lebronxrings]

lmao how do you play so shiet against kent bazemore. Sad

[VengefulAngel]

That ain't close dude :oldlol:

Yeh, but KM is really underrated lol.