Dragic is a bad fit on the Heat

[Black and White]

Anyone else agree with me? I don't think hes a good fit for this team, I wonder if trading him will ever come into consideration.

[plowking]

Probably because he was never as good as people say he was.

Has no midrange, and is far too inconsistent from 3 point land. Literally all the complaints about Harden, and people used to shit on him, yet Dragic isn't half the player Harden is.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Agreed. Looks very thin out there. BTON went thick on him and decked him like the beta he is.

[SpecialQue]

I've been calling him worthless for years, yet no one listened to me.

[plowking]

I mean seriously... 90 mil for a 30 something year old who hasn't even performed that well.

Is 20/6 for one season on a non playoff team worth shit? Could have had Isaiah Thomas for less than half that, and he is a far better player.

[Smoke117]

Probably because he was never as good as people say he was.

Has no midrange, and is far too inconsistent from 3 point land. Literally all the complaints about Harden, and people used to shit on him, yet Dragic isn't half the player Harden is.

He can't break his defender down in a half court set with any consistency either. There is frankly little reason for him to have the ball over Wade unless it's in a fast break situation. We should have just let him walk and I wouldn't be surprised if he is gone by the trade deadline. Though by that point, I'm not sure he'll have much trade value.

[PJR]

Relax with the overreaction

[plowking]

He can't break his defender down in a half court set with any consistency either. There is frankly little reason for him to have the ball over Wade unless it's in a fast break situation. We should have just let him walk and I wouldn't be surprised if he is gone by the trade deadline. Though by that point, I'm not sure he'll have much trade value.

Kevin Love just stayed in front of him for an entire play...

Dude cannot get past his man. Mo Williams for the most part has locked him up today.

Not an overreaction PJR. Guy is useless unless it is a fast break.

[dubeta]

Wade-Ball made his worse, it is what it is


First Bosh, now Dragic

[Vragrant]

Hell be fine. He already has 5 assists despite his off night shooting. Heat benefit from his playmaking

[plowking]

Wade-Ball made his worse, it is what it is


First Bosh, now Dragic

Does it not get boring not being able to post your actual opinions. You actually come on here and don't get to discuss basketball. You come here to keep up a facade. This is like an actual job for you...

[I<3NBA]

Dragic is good for a team that wants to run.

Miami doesn't. Dragic will fit great with GSW. he can run the 2nd unit when Steph goes to the bench.

[JohnFreeman]

Dragic + Winslow or Deng for Melo

[FKAri]

I mean seriously... 90 mil for a 30 something year old who hasn't even performed that well.

Is 20/6 for one season on a non playoff team worth shit? Could have had Isaiah Thomas for less than half that, and he is a far better player.

lol no he's not. IT's a much worse player.

[stalkerforlife]

He's so overpaid.

[buddha]

Gragic would be a great fit on the Kings

Goran Dragic / Darren Collison
Ben McLemore
Rudy Gay / Marco Bellineli
DeMarcus Cousins
Willie Cauley-Stein / Kosta Koufos

would make the playoffs easily

[DoctorP]

Maybe he is a bad fit but it's too early to tell. Let them find a groove.

[GrapeApe]

I have to say, his lack of quickness has surprised me, and he's only shooting 32% from 3 since joining Miami. I really want Wade to be able work more off the ball, but it's clear as day he's still a better playmaker than Dragic. I haven't given up on Dragic or anything, but I've accepted that he is what he is. A solid but not great PG. That's fine really, the Heat don't need him to be a star, but unfortunately he's being paid like one. It's early though so hopefully he'll get it going.

[Papaya Petee]

He got his payday, we knew this was happening. Our shooting guard is a much better playmaker than him, thats a problem.

[ArbitraryWater]

Dude was a total beast in 2014. Even last year he was still a positive and put up some real good numbers. Overreaction.

[Dresta]

He started off 0-5 and all of them were shots i'd usually expect him to make tbh.

[SwishSquared]

Try to fleece Phil Jackson next summer by trading him for J. Grant. Sign a great back-up PG (DJ Augustin?). Let Deng walk. Have Wade take a paycut. Then sign KD and Whiteside to big, new deals.

That'd be a really stacked squad.

[fragokota]

Team needs to play faster if we want Dragic to be effective.

[TemporaMutantur]

Ha, It's October..

He just seems bad surrounded by this superstar play going on right now.

He'll be way more polished by the holiday season.

[Lebronxrings]

and the excuses start...

[RidonKs]

yep

well not a bad fit

but not enough of a good fit for sure

[aj1987]

If he can make his 3's at least, I'd be a bit happy. Still, $17M for a 3pt shooter with average D?

[GreatHILL]

thx for the picks :oldlol:

[GrapeApe]

Dude was a total beast in 2014. Even last year he was still a positive and put up some real good numbers. Overreaction.

Overreaction? On this board? No way brah. :no: :D

In all seriousness though, the thing that concerns me about Dragic is he seems to be a half step slower than a couple years ago. He's good in the open court but he struggles to break down his man a half court setting. I'm not too worried about his shooting, that will come around, but his lack of quickness has taken me by surprise. Perhaps he's still getting acclimated and thinking too much. That can make a player appear a bit slower than they actually are.

I'm not too worried at this point. I'm confident Dragic will get it going and do some great things as the season progresses. He and Wade showed glimpses of great chemistry last season and they'll eventually find their rhythm together. I also think their minutes should be staggered to some degree. Partly so Dragic can run uptempo with the second unit, and partly because the Heat can't afford to have both of them off the court for extended stretches.

[Bay Area Baller]

Those expecting Dragic to be the shooter Miami needs are not familiar with Dragic expertise. He is a drive and kick pg. Meaning if he can get to the basket he can convert if not expect him to kick it out. He shouldn't be spot up shooting 3 s anyways. With Gerald green, Deng and even Wade able to spot up shoot, Dragic job is to creat space on the offense. Btw hows Winslow looking. Just saying on paper it looks like a great fit for how they should be playing.

[FLDFSU]

Eric Spo is a bad fit for the Heat...

[catch24]

Dude was a total beast in 2014. Even last year he was still a positive and put up some real good numbers. Overreaction.

Agreed. Goran was an absolute BEAST with Phoenix. Dude didn't forget how to play basketball. Give him some time, and everything will come together.

I do wonder about Spo. His "offensive system"...well I don't see an "offensive system".

Still, if healthy, Miami is a legit Top 3 seed IMO.

[GrapeApe]

Those expecting Dragic to be the shooter Miami needs are not familiar with Dragic expertise. He is a drive and kick pg. Meaning if he can get to the basket he can convert if not expect him to kick it out. He shouldn't be spot up shooting 3 s anyways. With Gerald green, Deng and even Wade able to spot up shoot, Dragic job is to creat space on the offense. Btw hows Winslow looking. Just saying on paper it looks like a great fit for how they should be playing.

Overall he's been impressive. Raw offensively but a good defender, rebounder, and he looks to have a high IQ. The fact that he's getting decent minutes this early speaks volumes. At 19 he's already capable of making an impact.

[BarberSchool]

Wade-Ball made his worse, it is what it is


First Bosh, now Dragicthis.

Wade wastes hella shot clock and makes other players worse.

[BarberSchool]

Eric Spo is a bad fit for the Heat...Cosign this too.

An incredibly overrated benefactor of Bron.

Save all that "Disciple of Riley" BS for the casual fans who buy hype.

[GrapeApe]

this.

Wade wastes hella shot clock and makes other players worse.

Um, Lebron? He pounds the rock as much as any player in the league. He's been criticized for it throughout his career.

And lol at making other players worse. His entire career his teammates have commented time and time again about how Wade makes things easier for them and consistently gets them open looks. Wade is one of the best playmaking SG's ever.

[GrapeApe]

Cosign this too.

An incredibly overrated benefactor of Bron.

Save all that "Disciple of Riley" BS for the casual fans who buy hype.

Most Heat fans agree that Spo is a mediocre coach. Last year was the first time he didn't have at least one top 3 player in the league to mask his deficiencies. In terms of Dragic and his fit with the Heat, Spo's offense, or lack thereof, is a major issue. He's showing some signs of getting better but this is an important year for him. Spo is a very close second to heath in terms of what can derail this season.

[DoctorP]

this.

Wade wastes hella shot clock and makes other players worse.

This in the past has been true but Wade doesnt and shouldnt have enough usage to make that much of a difference to his teammates when he is trying to get it going.