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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-01-2015, 04:46 PM
He relies on dominating the ball, heavy pnr (pick n roll), heavy snf (slash n flop) and can only shoot 3s and layups

He has absolutely 0 offball game (or midrange). Cant cut, cant navigate screens, weak positioning, shit footwork, low IQ to get to spots, weak movement etc. Enter Lawson a better playmaker and passer.............now Hardon looks useless. He would play better next to an ancient Jet or Prigioni.

dubeta
11-01-2015, 04:47 PM
Not everyone can play off-ball like Bird, Ray Allen, LeBron, Reggie Millier



Some people just like dominating the ball on offense, it is what it is.

aj1987
11-01-2015, 04:48 PM
Not everyone can play off-ball like Bird, Ray Allen, LeBron, Reggie Millier



Some people just like dominating the ball on offense, it is what it is.
Are we playing find the odd one out?




Harden's offensive game is garbage. That's one of the reasons I don't like the guy at all. His only moves are jab step and step back 3's and running into the paint, hoping for a foul.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-01-2015, 04:48 PM
Are we playing find the odd one out?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :applause: :applause:

LakersForlife
11-01-2015, 04:48 PM
15 ppg guard without ft's or should i say flopping like a fish on land

GIF REACTION
11-01-2015, 04:49 PM
aj doesn't know anything about ball

Lebron has a great off-ball game when required

dubeta
11-01-2015, 04:49 PM
Are we playing find the odd one out?

Ray? :wtf: nah he had a good off-ball game, especiially once he got traded to Celtics and then Miami after

Rocketswin2013
11-01-2015, 04:49 PM
Looks like he put no effort into going to into that role. Honestly, it all starts somewhere and he just has to commit to it, then the wrinkles will start to come about.

He was in the closing lineup with WB and Durant in OKC. And they had the best and most explosive offense in the league. IIRC he was one of the top 4th quarter scorers while being on the court with them. It's all about mentality.

I still get the feeling we'll just panic and go into Harden-ball. Spam high pnr's and clear outs. It'll carry the team to the playoffs but the ceiling is limited.

Cocaine80s
11-01-2015, 04:51 PM
Op still mad Curry is better than Paul ever was

TrueBlue89
11-01-2015, 04:55 PM
Yeah because he didn't excel in OKC alongisde 2 ball dominant wings. I'd love to live in a world where people didn't make sweeping statements after 2 games.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-01-2015, 04:56 PM
Yeah because he didn't excel in OKC with 2 ball dominant wings.
He still had the ball in his hands and was the main playmaker during 4th Qs. Kd and Russ actually have good to great offball games tho, Hardon didnt and we saw what happened when a team can force him to that position in the finals

SHAQisGOAT
11-01-2015, 04:58 PM
Are we playing find the odd one out?




Harden's offensive game is garbage. That's one of the reasons I don't like the guy at all. His only moves are jab step and step back 3's and running into the paint, hoping for a foul.

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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-01-2015, 05:01 PM
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png
U post on coli bruh?

Hey Yo
11-01-2015, 05:01 PM
He relies on dominating the ball, heavy pnr (pick n roll), heavy snf (slash n flop) and can only shoot 3s and layups

He has absolutely 0 offball game (or midrange). Cant cut, cant navigate screens, weak positioning, shit footwork, low IQ to get to spots, weak movement etc. Enter Lawson a better playmaker and passer.............now Hardon looks useless. He would play better next to an ancient Jet or Prigioni.
HardEn

outbreak
11-01-2015, 05:01 PM
15 ppg guard without ft's or should i say flopping like a fish on land

40ppg guard is defenders just let him get to the rim when they can't stay in front instead of fouling trying to keep up/stop him once he's through them? It's a product of the modern nba being soft not a fault of harden.

!@#$%Vectors!@#
11-01-2015, 05:03 PM
Would think that after his OKC days that he would be super effective offball.:confusedshrug:

SHAQisGOAT
11-01-2015, 05:04 PM
U post on coli bruh?

Used to... Haven't in some time because nowadays I don't have much time though. You there?

Right now, I usually only come here (ISH) a bit to discuss some ball... You know I won't stop using them coli's smilies though :lol

outbreak
11-01-2015, 05:23 PM
Would think that after his OKC days that he would be super effective offball.:confusedshrug:
Did you watch him in OKC? he ran the offence off the bench

sd3035
11-01-2015, 05:30 PM
He relies on dominating the ball, heavy pnr (pick n roll), heavy snf (slash n flop) and can only shoot 3s and layups

He has absolutely 0 offball game (or midrange). Cant cut, cant navigate screens, weak positioning, shit footwork, low IQ to get to spots, weak movement etc. Enter Lawson a better playmaker and passer.............now Hardon looks useless. He would play better next to an ancient Jet or Prigioni.

sounds like Lebald if you take away the 3 point shooting

stalkerforlife
11-01-2015, 05:33 PM
Kardashian.

/thread

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-01-2015, 09:30 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:


Used to... Haven't in some time because nowadays I don't have much time though. You there?

Right now, I usually only come here (ISH) a bit to discuss some ball... You know I won't stop using them coli's smilies though :lol
Havent recently

yessir:rockon: :rockon:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
11-14-2015, 10:07 PM
bump

AnaheimLakers24
11-14-2015, 10:12 PM
Larden cant please the kardashian so they cursed him. He sucked anyways

Milbuck
11-14-2015, 10:42 PM
Yup. This is why Curry is so much better, he's waaaaay more portable a player.. Curry can take you off the dribble, move without the ball for catch and shoots..as playmakers they both have comparable vision but because Curry is so much better off ball he can make much quicker decisions as a passer, and he allows his teammates to operate at a much higher playmaking capacity. Just maximizes his teammates whereas Harden makes everyone completely dependent on him, and so when his bullshit game fails, everyone fails.

Kawhi
11-15-2015, 12:45 AM
bump
Bump what? He has a higher usage % than he had last year.