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Legends66NBA7
11-01-2015, 06:20 PM
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The*Toronto Raptors*boasted one of the NBA's best offenses in 2014-15, but early signs indicate they could be even better this season.

They'll try to continue their hot start Sunday night against the visiting*Milwaukee Bucks, who have been dismal defensively.

Toronto, seeking its first 3-0 start since 2008-09, has averaged 109.5 points through its first two games after finishing fourth with 104.0 last season.*DeMar DeRozan*scored 23 in Friday's 113-103 win at Boston, while*DeMarre Carroll*and*Terrence Rossadded 21 apiece.

Ross, who was a reserve for the second straight game after starting 123 over the past two seasons, scored 13 in the fourth quarter.

"Coming off the bench helps me because you see what the team needs to work on," he said. "It helps you focus on what you can do. I actually like it a little better."

Carroll was 4 of 7 from 3-point range and has two steals in each of his first two games as a Raptor.

Milwaukee was expected to take another step forward after a surprising sixth-place finish last season, but has stumbled out of the gates and is in danger of its first 0-3 start since dropping its first five games in 1976-77. This is the longest streak in NBA history of consecutive seasons without starting 0-3.

The Bucks limited opponents to 97.4 points per game in 2014-15 to rank eighth in the NBA, but have given up 240 points to New York and Washington. They let the Wizards shoot 51.5 percent -- including a 12-for-21 mark from 3-point range -- in Friday's 118-113 home loss.

"We won't beat anybody giving up 120 points," said*Greg Monroe, who scored 22 for the second straight contest. "We have to be better at defense. That's it."

Milwaukee surrendered 39 points in the second quarter and 36 in the fourth, conceding 14 to*Bradley Beal*and 11 to*Ramon Sessions*over the final 12 minutes. The Bucks led by 10 entering the final period.

"We have to take more pride in defense," coach Jason Kidd said. "We're trying to outscore people and it's affecting our defense. We're not getting stops when we have to, but it goes back to guarding the ball. We're not guarding the ball."

Despite their early struggles, they may be able to capitalize on turnovers Sunday. Toronto has committed 43 turnovers leading to 44 points for opponents after its 12.9 turnovers per game last season were the NBA's third-fewest. Milwaukee scored 20 points off 21 Washington turnovers Friday.

The Raptors' defense has also impressed, holding Indiana and Boston to 37.4 percent shooting, though both clubs ranked in the league's bottom 10 in that category a season ago. Milwaukee finished seventh in shooting at 45.9 percent last season.

The Bucks shot 51.2 percent against the Wizards and enjoyed a strong season debut by*Giannis Antetokounmpo, who scored 23 of his 27 points in the first half. He was suspended for the opener due to a flagrant foul assessed in Game 6 of last season's first-round playoff series against Chicago.

John Henson*is listed as out after missing Friday's game due to a sore Achilles, while*O.J. Mayo*(strained hamstring) and*Jabari Parker*(knee surgery) remain sidelined.

Milwaukee ended a six-game losing streak in the series with an 82-75 victory at Toronto on Feb. 2.

Legends66NBA7
11-01-2015, 07:04 PM
Who's the dame with Leo ?

Bcogswell
11-01-2015, 07:12 PM
Sloppy turnover.

Legends66NBA7
11-01-2015, 07:23 PM
Sloppy turnover.

Yeah, should never happen. Really need to cut down on the turnovers.

Legends66NBA7
11-01-2015, 07:38 PM
This looks like it will be Lowry's game. Doing a bit of everything.

yeaaaman
11-01-2015, 08:06 PM
Why does Derozan still insist on doing the Kobe pump fake then shoot with someone in your face?

BurningHammer
11-01-2015, 09:45 PM
3-0 :applause:

Still, they haven't faced real teams yet.

DoctorP
11-01-2015, 09:58 PM
Bucks are starting sloow

Bcogswell
11-01-2015, 10:13 PM
3-0 :applause:

Still, they haven't faced real teams yet.
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kwajo
11-02-2015, 12:41 AM
This team is so much more watchable than last season.

Ball movement >>>> Lou & GV chucking.

Legends66NBA7
11-02-2015, 12:48 AM
This team is so much more watchable than last season.

Ball movement >>>> Lou chucking.

To be honest, the defense looks more effective than the ball movement, not that the passing hasn't been good. Still need to see how they do till they get to the All-star break. It's around Mid January-Feburary ish that the wheels start come off last year's team. Lot of it had to do with injuries, chemistry problems, and a exhausting defensive system.

kwajo
11-02-2015, 12:55 AM
To be honest, the defense looks more effective than the ball movement, not that the passing hasn't been good. Still need to see how they do till they get to the All-star break. It's around Mid January-Feburary ish that the wheels start come off last year's team. Lot of it had to do with injuries, chemistry problems, and a exhausting defensive system.

I think the difference of bringing in guys like Scola/Carroll/Joseph to replace Vasquez/Lou/Psycho T has really helped bring the Basketball IQ of the team up significantly. There is less cheating off of your man on the defensive end, much better movement laterally and better court awareness. You can already see that our perimeter players aren't getting blown by on every drive, which was one of the primary causes of Jonas having early foul trouble, and countless other issues last season.

Milbuck
11-02-2015, 01:10 AM
Wouldn't mind if Vasquez just exploded on court next game, literally. Dude is not an NBA player. Absolutely zero ability to function in an efficient team offense and is one of the worst defenders I've ever seen. Makes everybody around him worse on both ends. Masai took us behind the woodshed on that trade. God f*cking dammit.

Our team can't compete right now, missing 3 of our best players in Jabari, Henson, Mayo. Playing playoff teams like Toronto and Washington, pretty much guaranteed losses. And Kidd and his obnoxious vet bias playing retards like Vasquez and Bayless over young guys that actually play team basketball and play hard on both end like Vaughn and Inglis doesn't help. Then you have Copeland whose single NBA skill is shooting 3s and is high school JV level at literally everything else.

Hopefully Jabari takes all of Copeland's minutes, Mayo most of Vasquez/Bayless' minutes, and Henson most of Plumlee/JOB's minutes. 0-3 sucks but I can livewith it knowing we'll be replacing the dumb D-Leaguers with NBA level players shortly.

kwajo
11-02-2015, 08:48 AM
Wouldn't mind if Vasquez just exploded on court next game, literally. Dude is not an NBA player. Absolutely zero ability to function in an efficient team offense and is one of the worst defenders I've ever seen. Makes everybody around him worse on both ends. Masai took us behind the woodshed on that trade. God f*cking dammit.

Our team can't compete right now, missing 3 of our best players in Jabari, Henson, Mayo. Playing playoff teams like Toronto and Washington, pretty much guaranteed losses. And Kidd and his obnoxious vet bias playing retards like Vasquez and Bayless over young guys that actually play team basketball and play hard on both end like Vaughn and Inglis doesn't help. Then you have Copeland whose single NBA skill is shooting 3s and is high school JV level at literally everything else.

Hopefully Jabari takes all of Copeland's minutes, Mayo most of Vasquez/Bayless' minutes, and Henson most of Plumlee/JOB's minutes. 0-3 sucks but I can livewith it knowing we'll be replacing the dumb D-Leaguers with NBA level players shortly.
You guys will be just fine once you get everyone back from injury. The three or four who haven't played are definitely rotation players and will easily bump someone like Bayless or Copeland from playing much.

Sakkreth
11-02-2015, 11:23 AM
Everyone is so nice to each other in these Raptors game threads. We need that match vs Knicks sooner...